User talk:AnemoneProjectors

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Ethan Hardy and Caleb Knight[edit]

I have noticed that @Raintheone: has submitted requests for Ethan Hardy and Caleb Knight to be deleted so they can put their work in but yet nobody has deleted them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Thanks, I've done both. anemoneprojectors 10:00, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello. Thank you for moving both of the articles into the mainspace. I had decided to use the move request templates. I did not want to bother you because I always do with move requests. Sorry about that.Rain the 1 14:22, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
lol no problem, I don't mind anemoneprojectors 14:34, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Great work with the new EastEnders cast photographs. Just amazing. Did you tell the actors they were posing for their future Wiki infobox pictures?Rain the 1 23:58, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. It was an amazing day which I plan to never forget. I did tell Lacey, but she seemed confused so I didn't tell anyone else! Sadly I can't use the photos I have of Scott Maslen, Bonnie Langford and Richard Blackwood because they were taken by other people (that's the reason I didn't want many photos of me with the cast, I knew I wouldn't hold the rights to them). I know I could have got better pictures - I met 12 of the cast before I turned the flash on my camera! And I missed getting pics of Danny Dyer, Linda Henry, Linda Marlowe, Diane Parish, Jack Derges, June Brown and Liz Sweet, and I didn't meet Matt Di Angelo, John Altman, Ben Champniss or Ulric Browne, and my photos of Lisa Hammond and Harry Reid are unposed because I didn't get the chance to ask them for photos, it was so busy. Also, Jo Joyner and Maria Friedman arrived after I'd already left. If they did another one, I would go no matter what it cost! anemoneprojectors 07:12, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Oh right, that sounds really strict - the person taking the photograph on your property gives them copyright. I'd never considered that before. You instigated the creation of the cast photo but they actually created it. Anyhow, I bet it was amazing and worth the money. Every soap fans dream - but meeting Carli Norris, well jealous!!!!Rain the 1 10:56, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Well I'm pretty sure they wouldn't mind, but technically the person who presses the shutter is the copyright holder. Most people won't think about that, but for me it doesn't feel quite right to release those photos. I wouldn't even know who it was to ask! I know one, that's James Bye - he took a photo of me with Jonny Labey, but then I took a photo of Jonny Labey so I don't need to use that one! Carli Norris, eh?! I found Jamie Borthwick and Scott Maslen to be more fanciable in person. But for some reason Jonny Labey is now my celebrity crush, so sad he's leaving. And that his cast cards hadn't turned up! I need to get my new collection of cast cards and autographs framed :-) anemoneprojectors 11:51, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
The stars are starting to notice their Wiki pages now [1] anemoneprojectors 12:35, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Haha, that is great!Rain the 1 22:50, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
She says she didn't know she had a Wiki page, but what she really doesn't know is that she nearly didn't! anemoneprojectors 06:05, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Hey. I have created a new user called User:James Nightingale. I was supposed to move my sandbox to the mainspace target of James Nightingale (Hollyoaks), which has a redirect. I incorrectly believed there was no redirect in play. I am not sure why I have become so clumsy with article move since yesterday. Can you clean up my trail of destruction?Rain the 1 16:36, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Oh look, even I fucked it up. Fixing it now though. anemoneprojectors 18:59, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
I've left all the wrong moves in the deleted history so it actually looks like you just wrote it in the mainspace. I'm just thinking, if you want to go for DYK maybe I should undelete them so the moment it was moved to mainspace is clear. anemoneprojectors 19:02, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you and it was a confusing one. Perhaps restore and then I could nominate in the next couple of days.Rain the 1 19:25, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Well I've done it. I was originally confused by the namespace drop down list - the first few times I moved pages for you guys after that list appeared, I ended up creating new userpages. Wikipedia do seem to have made some "improvements" lately that have made it harder to use... like changing the links to change the number of days on the watchlist to a drop down menu, meaning an extra mouse click, or making the "updated since my last visit" less obvious so I have to struggle to see how many edits have been made when I look at a page history. Oh well. anemoneprojectors 22:34, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks again. I think sometimes that it would be great idea for long-term confirmed users to have some type of higher move rights that can take out redirects etc. But when you describe it like that it sounds best of left to admins as atleast you can delete and clean up if it is done wrong.Rain the 1 23:29, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Could you solve the move request I made at Greg Douglas? The template never seems to attract an assisting admin anymore. At one time it would be moved within the hour.Rain the 1 10:18, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

@Raintheone: The page is deleted, so feel free to make your move. So to speak :) anemoneprojectors 10:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. What is your prediction on the upcoming EastEnders death storyline?Rain the 1 10:39, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Well, clearly Ben isn't dead. And I'm pretty sure Harry Reid hasn't left the cast, because if they're going to release spoilers of Ben's death, they would have announced his departure. If they were going to make it a surprise departure with no announcement, they'd not release spoilers! So I agree with you that it's a mistaken identity. I hope it's not Paul though. Also I noticed at the meet and greet, Jonny Labey was wearing an "artist" wristband to signify his reason for being there as he had already filmed his exit by that time. I didn't notice any current cast wearing these, including Harry Reid. EastEnders are loving playing tricks on us - they did this with Denise and it was so obvious she was alive but people were convinced she was dead, this is the same sort of thing. They played tricks with Sharon and Phil's marriage too, having them reunite at the last possibly moment (I totally saw it coming)! anemoneprojectors 13:51, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
That is what I thought. They do like a surprise story like Emmerdale and Hollyoaks do too. Coronation Street on the other hand seem to reveal all their stories, like Kylie Platt. That article is receiving more attention due to the character being killed off and it really is not helping. I predict when the scenes air tomorrow night the article will be worse. Can you add semi pp that article for a little while? I think all the IP edits, without edit summaries adding in storylines with errors is just making the article unstable - which is a shame as it has GA status.Rain the 1 00:39, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
I'lll semi protect it for a while. I'm actually about 3-4 weeks behind on Corrie and I don't tend to read spoilers (not because I don't want to know what happens, they just don't interest me as much as EastEnders ones!) so I don't know when Kylie's due to die, though of course I know she will. Is a week long enough? anemoneprojectors 07:15, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. Perhaps we can wait and see if the problem persists following pp ending - which it probably will. I did not realise you were so far behind. I will have to remember not to leave any spoilers on your talk page again. lolRain the 1 16:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm only behind because I don't have a TV licence anymore so I watch what I want on catch up and generally I end up watching it all close to when it's due to expire - apart from EastEnders which I watch as soon as I can! Because EE has secrets that I might see online before I watch it! But with Corrie, if I saw a big secret revealed online it wouldn't bother me as much! Also, the spoilers are all over the soap magazines anyway so even if I don't read them, the headlines are unavoidable! It was kind of annoying with Britain's Got Talent, because I had somehow managed to avoid on Twitter and Wikipedia who had won it, until a week and a half later when it was spoiled for me in a pub quiz question! :-) anemoneprojectors 17:26, 14 July 2016 (UTC)


Hello, if I was looking to cite information from a special feature on a DVD, how would I do it?Superfan95 (talk) 15:04, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Hi, you could use Template:Cite AV media. - JuneGloom07 Talk 15:36, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
What June said :-) anemoneprojectors 15:38, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Mainspace Move[edit]

Hi AP, could you move the page, User:ElectrodeandtheAnode/Casualty (series 31), into mainspace at Casualty (series 31) please. The user had asked for it to be moved via Articles for Creation rather than moving it straight to mainspace. Someone else created a page of seriously poor quality and I was hoping you could you move their work into the mainspace for me please. Thanks Soaper1234 (talk) 16:25, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done anemoneprojectors 16:33, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks AP :D Soaper1234 (talk) 17:38, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Peggy Mitchell[edit]

It says on your talk page that you like to do the right thing and I should let you know if you make a mistake. I'd like to say that I was trying to add additional factual information on this article and you just come along and removed it saying it is not needed. I think this is very unfair as it is perfectly true and therefore adds to the article. If people don't want to know, then they don't have to read it, but why take it away from anyone who might want to? Cexycy 01:51, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

@Cexycy: Hi, the wording on the placard is not necessary as this is trivial, and not a part of Peggy's overall storyline. Dates of birth are generally not included because characters are not technically born but are created by the writers. Peggy did not exist in 1942 or in 1960 - she didn't exist until 1991. So I didn't make a mistake, I was following Wikipedia's guidelines on writing about fictional characters and not including trivia. Thanks. anemoneprojectors 06:11, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
How can you say what is trivial and what is not, especially when you are talking about a fictional character to begin with? Peggy never really existed at all, yet the article gives some background information on her before she even came to the programme but you're not opposing any of that. We know characters are not really born but I cited a piece of information as well as two sources to back it up. The date of birth allows people to generally get a better feel for the character because it can be worked out how old a person was at a certain time. Basically it's just a little piece of information which does gebrally offer a little bit and does not overshadow anything else. Again if you are not interested, you can ignore it but some people will be. Cexycy (talk) 21:08, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I have to say Cexycy that I agree with AP. I must admit I don't see why we need the backstory section. I would remove it altogether from all soap opera characters. It doesn't matter when Peggy married though as it happened before she was created.--5 albert square (talk) 21:20, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Indeed, backstory sections are not needed - important backstory should be mentioned at the time it is revealed or as part of a creation or characterisation section if it is part of the character's announcement. That's why I've been removing several of them recently from various characters - I think I one of the Brannings most recently. But it can be difficult to merge the information sometimes, which is why I sometimes leave them. As for a character's age, it is generally not important, though in some cases we have given a character's age on arrival where it is sourced as part of the character's announcement. We don't need to know her age. We can see what she looks like from images and we know she's a grandmother, but her age is not actually relevant. I would consider if to be fancruft. anemoneprojectors 22:08, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
To be fair, I thought the whole purpose of Wikipedia is to produce articles with facts which are supported with sources. What I provided was just that. The date of birth was stated verbally AND on the coffin placard both supporting each other with no other contradicting sources. When does creating an article stop and funcruft begin? If the storylines can be supported with sources of information to support them, then what is actually the harm? Yes such things didn't really happen but if you are going to be like that, why have anything fictional on Wikipedia? Also bear in mind that there is also a lot of interest in such things as well, a major factor in Wikipedia's existence. Cexycy (talk) 22:18, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Facts, yes. But with works of fiction, we should write about the most important aspects of a character (trivia is discouraged in all articles, not just fiction). Birth and death dates are not those aspects. The most important thing to write about characters is from a "real-world perspective", rather than "in-universe perspective". That means we should avoid just writing pages of detailed plot, but include information about the casting and creation of the character, what decisions were made in making the character such as how they dress, any storyline development, awards or critical commentary, etc. Like I said, the date of birth is not important, nor is the date of death. What is more important are the first and last episodes. We are not going to include every tiny detail we see on screen. See also Wikipedia's guide on writing about fiction. anemoneprojectors 09:42, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Assistance on Common name article move[edit]

Hey. An editor has moved Ashley Thomas to Ashley Michael Thomas and redirected Ashley Thomas to Bashy. There is no need as the rapper is not professionally known by their real name. Could you move Ashley Michael Thomas back? I believe it is a conflict of interest to wade in and take an article title over like this, especially since the editor of the subject, is the rapper himself.Rain the 1 01:11, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

And fictional characters aren't known by their middle names. I'm in agreement with you and have moved it back. anemoneprojectors 03:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
The user has done it again. I moved the talk page back I think, but I can't do the main page.
Grangehilllover (talk) 07:46, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
I've move protected it now and will warn the user. anemoneprojectors 08:20, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Category:Reality television judges has been nominated for discussion[edit]

Category:Reality television judges, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Rob Sinden (talk) 10:33, 26 July 2016 (UTC)