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Best-sellers of 2000s

Hey, I started List of best-selling singles of the 2000s (UK) yesterday after Will Young was announced as the winner. I have already produced (in my opinion) a pretty decent list with the right amount of prose. Would you be able to take a lot at the article, make any changes you feel necessary and add more refs if needed. I don't think it is too far from FL standard already. I do need to find a reliable source which lists the entire top 100 as all I can find at the moment are blogs. Cheers. 03md 00:30, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Please reply on my talk page asap. 03md 19:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I can't find a source at the moment that lists the entire top 100 - most only give top 10 without sales figures. The Billboard website has end of decade top 100s for all the charts but the OCC doesn't have the same on its website. 03md 14:05, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Where did you get the top 100 from? Various sources pieced together? Did the Radio 1 shows reveal the whole top 100? You could use the radio shows as a source because offline sources can be used. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
As I have written in the article, the entire top 100 was revealed across three shows. I will cite the radio shows as the BBC don't seem to have posted the list on their website. 03md 18:38, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

Hello AnemoneProjects. Just wanted to say Thank You for the welcome :) ShedMediaUK (talk) 16:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

EastEnders character relationship status

buy the way why cant we see the status. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Status of what? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:43, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

The status of the EE characters. Gosh you can't see their relationship status. Because you run EE on Wikipedia, I thoguht you can do something about that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

The EastEnders WikiProject decided a few months ago to remove the status field from the EastEnders character infoboxes, that's why you can't see it anymore. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:37, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Why's that? I think you should bring it back because in every soap character the people need to know what relationship they have.-- (talk) 09:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

The reasons were: if a character is married, it's in the family section of the infobox. "In a relationship" isn't a legal status. And one example, Chelsea Fox, was in a relationship, single, in a relationship and single again all within a week so we thought it was pointless to be changing it on a daily basis. It's also "in universe" information and infoboxes should, on the main, be relevant to the character as a whole, whereas when Bradley was in a relationship with Syd, saying he was "in a relationship" was only indicative of a short part of his time in the show. He's been single, dating, engaged, separated, divorced and dating again. Which one should we use? Then there was the issue of people not updating the status when something happened on screen, meaning the informatiom was wrong. Also, when someone was dating somebody, their actual "legal" status was ignored, so if they were divorced or widowed, it wasn't included. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 11:24, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

But that's not actually a problem. I mean sometimes there were incorrect facts that needed correcting. I think you don't really understand things and you want things to be longterm. It doesn't matter if you change it all the time because I personally do not mind. For eg: a couple months back I used to use wiki for webbased research and one minute Peggy was under the pole dancer cat. That was good because that is what she did. I think you are on the verge of being too compulsive.-- (talk) 11:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

The fact that it wasn't being updated wasn't the only problem. It wasn't just me, there was a group of Wikipedia editors involved in the discussion to remove the status. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:28, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

User:Archie Mitchell

Edits of the template {{Thatcherism}}, the ideology part of the userbox on Conservative Party (UK), Eastenders, and Harry Potter? Has to be User:The Twelfth Doctor, who had the exact same very disparate interests, and was banned for six months in November. Bastin 23:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. I'm going to do a WP:DUCK block. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)


I find that one of your user boxes is disturbing. Could you replace the picture with something less... ugly, maybe? And also i have a question: can you give me a link to a page that tells you how to make userboxes? That would really help me. Xavier The Second (talk) 19:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

I can't see any userboxes on my userpage that someone might find disturbing. Wikipedia:Userboxes is the page you want. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
The one that says: Wikipedia is not censored. The picture show real life boobies! Xavier The Second (talk) 23:26, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, it's true. Wikipedia is not censored, and my userpage is part of Wikipedia. What would you prefer to see in that infobox? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
You can keep it there but one question, are you really a nudist, pervert, or are those userboxes just for decoration? (no offense to your opinion of nudity.) Xavier The Second (talk) 23:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm not a pervert. My userboxes are there so people can learn about me. It is all true. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:02, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

E20: Zsa Zsa, Fatboy and Leon

Hi. Just to let you know, Zsa Zsa, Fatboy and Leon are all on six month contracts with the main show. An interview with Emer Kenny in Inside Soap Magazine has confirmed they will return to the main show, once E20 has finished. Just thought i would let you know, as your better at editing the EastEnders related articles :) (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:27, 9 January 2010 (UTC).

Thanks for letting me know. I thought that was it for them. I reverted earlier changes but if someone had left an edit summary I wouldn't have. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:38, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Eastenders E20 Episodes

Dear AnemoneProjectors You just reverted my edit from the Eastenders E20 article on the section of episodes episodes 2-12 contain copyrighted text from the bbc from this link Eastenders Offical Episode List Thanks Kelvin Sfxprefects (talk) 15:58, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I know. I have rewritten it now. But there's nothing wrong with copying short sections of text as long as it's sourced, and I was working on adding that page for references. And actually a lot of it came from Digital Spy. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:59, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Advice needed

Hi Anemone

I'm really just looking for a bit of advice here. I recently made an edit to the Max Tyler page, I removed the succession box that appears in the Personality and Traits section and said I was doing this as per WP:MOSFICT.

I today got a message from User:Weltpolitik saying I was wrong to do this and my edit was reverted because "Wikipedia does not have strict rules" and "If EastEnders WikiProject follow that rule they don't have to impose it on another WikiProject." If you wish, you can see the message in full because I'm leaving it on my talk page meantime.

I'm just wondering if I was correct to make that edit?

I'm also a bit wary of User:Weltpolitik as they're reminding me of User:Archie Mitchell. I've not reported Weltpolitik as a sockpuppet as they have only joined today and I'm assuming good faith as I don't want to scare off any new editors by reporting them when they're innocent. It's just the one 'proper' edit they have made today is very similar to the types of edit Archie Mitchell was making, plus they seemed to think I based my decision on the EastEnders Wikiproject when I in fact didn't mention the EastEnders Wikiproject at all and it had nothing to do with my edit! --5 albert square (talk) 21:43, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

His edit to Labour Party (UK) makes it obvious he is a sockpuppet of User:The Twelfth Doctor (same as User:Archie Mitchell). I've blocked him. You were right to make that edit, so go ahead and make it again if you want. WP:MOSFICT is for all fictional subjects, and the EastEnders MOS was based on it. Max Tyler is in the scope of WP:TV, so MOS:TV, and therefore WP:MOSFICT, applies. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Anemone :). I thought I was right! I just thought I'd check I hadn't misunderstood WP:MOSFICT. I'd also forgotten that Archie was a sock of The Twelfth Doctor. I really don't understand why people don't just accept their ban and get on with things! --5 albert square (talk) 22:11, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Stacey Slater

Hi Anemone

Just to let you know I've started a discussion at Talk:Stacey Slater about her being in the category of fictional market stall holders. I thought you might be interested in joining in the discussion.

Oh, and Happy New Year to you! --5 albert square (talk) 21:14, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I saw the discussion you started there before you even messaged me here. To save you time, if you start a discussion on an EastEnders-related article's talk page, you don't need to notify me as they are all on my watchlist. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:17, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Cool, was gonna pop by anyway to wish you a Happy New Year --5 albert square (talk) 21:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
You already did. See the section above ;) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Jeeze, that's what I get for not paying attention. Sorry! --5 albert square (talk) 21:27, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Were you very drunk on New Year's Eve? :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:29, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I was drunk on New Years Eve, yes, but not when I posted on your talk page lol! I'm just being forgetful lol! --5 albert square (talk) 22:14, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Why are we talking about drunks here? That's off topic. Shame on you. Xavier The Second (talk) 16:36, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Asking me if I'm a pervert is also off topic. Shame on you. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:40, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
No, I was questioning your userboxes. That is Part of Wikipedia so it is not off topic. Xavier The Second (talk) 17:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, my reasons for choosing my userboxes are none of your business anyway. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:34, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Eastenders E20 Iplayer

Hi AnemoneProjectors

It says on the Eastenders E20 Article its on iplayer can you confirm this i wanted to watch it on my iplayer desktop but doesn't seem to be there do you know anything about why its not there Eastenders iPlayer Sfxprefects (talk) 15:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Sources said it would be available on iPlayer but I looked and couldn't find it. But I read on a forum that it's going to be available on iPlayer at a later date, including on TV via the red button. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:27, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks i found this on the offical site just then FAQ Its the 10th question down. Sfxprefects (talk) 15:41, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh great stuff. I can add that to the article. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:46, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Andrew Robinson (Neighbours)

Hey there, hope you don't mind me asking you a question about another soap's character. In today's Australian episode of Neighbours, Andrew Robinson's birth date was revealed as 20 August 1993. However, he was actually born, on screen, on 13 November 1991. I was just wondering which birth date should go in his infobox? It was mentioned before he arrived on screen that he would be de-SORAS'd by two years, but I thought his birth date would have stayed the same. I don't think the writers did their research there.

Btw, I think you do some great work keeping all the Eastenders articles up to date and free of vandalism. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 23:29, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Of course I don't mind! Hmm, that's a tricky one and not something I've come across so far. What I would do is mention in the article that the character was born on screen in the episode first broadcast on 13 November 1991, then mention that the character was SORAS'd (with a reference if you have it) and say that his birthdate was changed to 20 August 1993. As for the infobox, it's really tricky. I would consider not including it at all, and just having it as prose in the article, but perhaps WP:SOAPS could give you a better suggestion if you ask there (if you haven't already). AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:56, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
In fact, he wasn't SORAS'd, he was reverse-SORAS'd as he's been made younger! That seems even more bizarre! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:58, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it looks like the date of birth and age fields have been removed from the soap character infobox template altogether, so that solves the problem - it'll never display in the article, whatever you put! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:03, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! I'll see if I can find a reliable reference and I'll mention it in the article. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 00:20, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

The Twelfth Doctor

Hi Anemone

Thought I should let you know of this as he seems to be about tonight. I reported User: as a sockpuppet of The Twelfth Doctor. I have requested checkuser just to see if there's any 'sleeping' accounts or to see if they can put some sort of range block on him, but I don't think there's any action been taken so far on this. Like I say, thought I would let you know, hope you're well :) --5 albert square (talk) 18:31, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm not watching many of the articles he edits so I'm unlikely to spot them. If I did I would just block them straight away without a sockpuppet investigation :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
That's ok, sometimes I wish I was a sysop so I could just block people like that straight away. I wouldn't normally have asked for check user either but the editors set up so many different accounts recently I couldn't help but think that check user would be useful this time. I think I reported him nearly a day ago so hopefully check user will get around to checking him soon :) --5 albert square (talk) 19:09, 12 January 2010 (UTC)


Hi Anemone

Am I right in thinking that you use Huggle for some edits? If so, do you know how to revert more than one edit from the same person? I've spent the last couple of days trying to work it out but every option I come across just says that it's reverting to another edit by the same IP which is not really good. Rather than risk reverting to a vandalised edit I've been coming on and asking Twinkle to revert it instead, but I really would prefer to know how to do it on Huggle too!

By the way I see that sockpuppet Trueman has been active again tonight. I know because Huggle came across his sockpuppet report before --5 albert square (talk) 23:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

No, I don't use Huggle. I did download it but I only used it once. So I have no idea. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
OK, no worries :) --5 albert square (talk) 23:45, 13 January 2010 (UTC)


hi am wouldyou be able to tell me how i can delete my account and user page on this,im thinking about leaving as im not really any help on this Brianwazere 21:40, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Right to vanish. It explains what you can do if you want to leave. I'm sorry you feel that you're not any help, though. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:17, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
I would suggest that you just stop editing though, because then you can come back in the future if you want. You can have your user page deleted. If you choose to "vanish", from what I can tell, you won't be able to come back. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:36, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Ya i wont delete my page but il just use the retired templete so i could return in the future,but im actually unsure if i will ever return
Thanks for helping me with everything and im sorry if i ever caused trouble on this...............Brianwazere 00:15, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

We didn't always see eye to eye, I know, but I feel sad that you're leaving. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:35, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

I nhave come to a conclusion that i wont leave full-time but i wont be on this as much as usual as i have some big exams coming up and i need to put alot of time into them but i will still log on occasionly in my spare time I hope u dont mind me changing my mind about this again Brianwazere 21:29, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

No mate, it's up to you! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Family trees

Hey, it's me again. I've recently decided to improve the Ramsay family and Robinson family articles and I've been looking at the Mitchell family article for ideas. I really like the family tree image you created and was wondering if you could tell me how you created it? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:39, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I used a program called GenoPro that I originally got so I could create my own family tree. Once the tree is done, you can highlight the whole thing, then copy and paste it into something like Paint and save it as PNG format. But if it's a less complicated family tree, I'd do something like on Flaherty family using the {{chart}} template. It's also in the Skywalker family, which is complicated. But it can be quite difficult to do. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:44, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. I'll experiment with both first and see which one I prefer to use. The {{chart}} template does look a little scary. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 20:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
It just takes practice, I guess. You could work on it in your userspace until it's right. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:41, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again. I've been using the GenoPro program and have found it relatively easy to use, so thank you for telling me about that. I've just finished one family tree and now I have to work out how to upload it to the article and Wikipedia. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 23:00, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Upload, then click "my own work" and go from there. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:04, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for all your help tonight, I've managed to upload my first image! :) Have a barnstar. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 23:48, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
SpecialBarnstar.png The Special Barnstar
Thank you for helping me out! JuneGloom07 Talk? 23:48, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Aww thank you! It's been years since I had a barnstar. Congratulations on your first upload! By the way, if you go back to GenoPro and look under Tools for "AutoArrange GenoMap" you might get a slightly better-looking tree. The great thing about GenoPro is that you can move things around and have them look how you want. I like to leave as little whitespace between people in the tree as possible. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:55, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I've just reported to AIV since they carried on with their edits after the warning you gave them. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 14:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
You know I'm an administrator, right? But apparently I was wrong to give that warning, oops. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:52, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I didn't, sorry. Naughty you, got me confused as I thought they were on a level 4 warning and that's why I reported them. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 15:17, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I gave them a level 4 warning because they've used other IP addresses to vandalise, so I know they are only interested in adding false information to soap opera articles. But I changed it to a level 1 warning after reading the reply you got on AIV. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Susan Bower

Hi Anemone

Thanks for your edit to the Susan Bower page. I copied that infobox template either from the page of Reg Grundy or Reg Watson, I can't believe I forgot to change that minor detail! D'oh! Good to see that the article made the main page of Wikipedia, first time I've nominated one of my own articles for an appearance.

I was going to message you anyway. With EastEnders turning the big 2-5 next month, do you reckon it's worth nominating the article for a mention in the On This Day section of the main page? --5 albert square (talk) 19:08, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

No probs. Yes that's a great idea! 19 February should see EastEnders in the On This Day section! I don't know how On This Day works but I'll have a read. Can you make it happen?! :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:19, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I don't see why not. I think that a soap turning a quarter of a century old is quite important. I'm not entirely sure how that section works either, I'm going to read up on it tonight and, if need be, I'll email Wikipedia to see how it works. I'm not sure if it needs to be nominated a certain amount of time before the date but I'm thinking it should be nominated asap --5 albert square (talk) 19:32, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Basically, you add it yourself to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/February 19 but I'm going to ask on the talk page because it's a TV show's anniversary. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:40, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Hopefully it can be :) --5 albert square (talk) 20:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to try to get Pauline Fowler as the featured article for that day. See my discussion on WT:EE. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

EastEnders is now listed on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/February 19. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:03, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes I saw, I'm pleased about that! I also think that Pauline Fowler should be the FA for that day, is there anything we can do to the article to improve its chances? Or is there any way we can nominate the main EastEnders page? --5 albert square (talk) 21:06, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
Editing the article won't improve its chances. It gets 2 points for being promoted over 2 years ago, 2 points for being a 25 year anniversary, 1 point because I've never nominated an FA for TFA before. Editing the article will have no effect whatsoever. EastEnders is not an FA so that can't be nominated for TFA. But like I said on WT:EE, 26 feb is a perfect tribute. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:09, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
19th feb ;p --5 albert square (talk) 21:22, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
No! Old Trafford beats it! 26 Feb! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Possible Edit War Begining?

I noticed that an IP restored an article you had deleted. It didnt reach notability guidlines you said. It was for a song from Avatar.

Here is the edit

Just figured I would inform you.

Zell Faze (talk) 22:54, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Ugh! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:56, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Lorna Fitzgerald

Just to let you know that Lorna Fitzgerald seems to have User:Ln of x active on her page again, this time in the form of User:Yahmom --5 albert square (talk) 02:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I saw that edit last night but it wasn't totally typical of Ln of x so I didn't do anything. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 11:36, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Hidden Infoboxes

Hey :)! I was just wondering why the infobox for Becca Swanson in EE has been hidden and what the policy is on this or whatever? Thanks Alex250P (talk) 19:21, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

There's no policy, we just decided that not every character needs to have an infobox, especially if it only contains basic information. It also helps with the removal of whitespace. I hid them, rather than deleted them, so they can still be updated if we decide to display them again - for example, if she becomes a regular character and has more information written about her. I made sure all the information that would be in the infobox is written in prose so no information would be lost. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:24, 19 January 2010 (UTC)


Hi AnemoneProjectors,

I notice that you've been doing some great work regarding Scouting for Girls. Please consider joining the Scouting for Girls WikiProject;an effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Scouting for Girls. If you would like to participate please pop over to the project page where you can join the project and see an open list of tasks that you can help with. Thank you for your time.

Regards, Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 16:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I've actually been watching the project since it was created and I guessed I'd get an invite soon! I will join, and I'll also clean up the project page if you like. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:44, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I didn't know you were interested. By the way, I've just put up a draft of This Ain't A Love Song in the sandbox. Please help out with it. Many thanks. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 17:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I had a few SFG articles on my watchlist when the project was created. To be honest, I didn't think it was worth creating since they've only had a few releases and it's pretty much covered by other projects. I spend most of my time on the EastEnders project so I probably won't get a lot of time to work with you on the SFG project but I'll help out where and when I can. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:41, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to give you more work, but, because you're more experienced, could you do some work on a quality scale for the WikiProject. Many thanks. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 16:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I can do that, I've done it for other WikiProjects. I'll hopefully get around to it today but if not don't worry, I will sort it out. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:53, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for that. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 18:46, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
PS Please sign my guestbook. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook)
You're welcome :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:50, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

E20 to EastEnders for Mercy!

Thought you would be interested to see this. Looks Like Mercy is also going over to EastEnders too. (talk) 00:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:38, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Daniel Evans (singer)

Hello, just to let you know your edit to this page was undone. I wasn't sure how to proceed, as I agree that the page should exist as a redirect, but I have prodded it; if it's deleted that will hopefully put people off recreating it and I'll then reinstate the redirect. If you agree, please consider adding a prod2. If you have a better idea of how to handle it, please put it on the page's Talk page. Thanks, Boleyn2 (talk) 11:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

I prod2ed it. I think you're right, it would be better if it was deleted. Shame it takes a few days. Maybe it should just be reverted to the redirect. I could fully protect it to stop it being recreated. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

If you can protect it, that might be the best option. Thanks, Boleyn2 (talk) 17:47, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Amira Shah

Hi, I've just read that Amira (Preeya Kalidas) is departing EastEnders this year. Here's the ref, [1]. I was wondering if you wanted to add the details to the article. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 12:04, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

Already done as soon as I found out, which was moments before I read this :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:44, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
It's a shame she's leaving, I'm sure all the Syed and Christian fans will be happy. I had no idea Preeya was a singer though. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 15:10, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I didn't know either. I guess Chryed will be able to continue. But apparently Amira finds out about Christian and Syed long before she will leave. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

One Shot (JLS song)

I've had to salt One Shot (JLS song) because of repeated and determined re-creation. The deletion discussion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One Shot (JLS song)) was only a month ago. Please do not recreate it, directly or via an article move; the correct place to contest article deletions is at WP:DRV. Thanks. Jayjg (talk) 22:37, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

The song has charted now, so it passes notability guidelines. I don't really care if it's recreated or not though, to be honest. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:50, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I've left a note on talk:JLS in case other editors want to take it to DRV. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. I've already advised several of the recreators that they should take it to DRV. I have no personal opinion about the article itself, but an article that was deleted via AfD a month ago should not simply be re-created. Jayjg (talk) 00:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I've seen a lot of articles deleted at AFD because they were about singles that hadn't been released yet and then once they charted they were simply recreated as the notability criteria had been met. To be honest it's never been an issue before. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:34, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Yes this admin is not very helpful to the matter the page clearly states you should see if the admin that deleted it can help before bringing it to that page. Anyway yes it's charted now which means it's noteable. Could you help me instead? I made a lot of edits to the page and now they're all gone, it took me a long time.

this is where I put my request I think I've done it horribly wrong, as the confused me. Would it be possible to re-create the page with my edits intact so I don't have to do it all again? Any help you could give would be greatly appreciated, thank you in advance. Jayy008 (talk) 00:35, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I've figured it out now and my request is on the argument page. Even though it's easier for you to just re-create it for me? Jayy008 (talk) 00:47, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I think in this instance it's probably best to go through DRV since Jayjg thinks the AFD should stand. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:50, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Stephen Baldwin

Hi, it is not that at all. The fact that Stephen Baldwin has damaged his career, and that of his family, is not particularly subjective. It is very much the case. Would you contest it if I said Adolf Hitler damaged his credibility in the United Kingdom? It is the same thing in most atheists' opinions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:29, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

If he's damaged his career and that of his entire family, you need to provide a reliable source to prove it. How can it be shown that he he has damaged his career when he's only just come out? He didn't have much of a career in the UK to start with, really. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 11:15, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


Can we add more assesment stuff like there is here please. I would but I don't know how. Thank you in advance. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 17:45, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

You mean you want to add Image, Category, Project and Template classes? It's probably not worth it as there are so few of them. We can tag them anyway with just {{WikiProject Scouting for Girls}} and they'd all come under "NA-class". But if you really want it, I'll set it up. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:49, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah that's it. I would like us to have those sort of categories. I'm sorry to give you more work. Thanks. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 18:15, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
It's ok, it's quite easy for me to do. Once I add them to the template, the pages should be automatically recategorised, now that I've added the template to them all. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:18, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Great! Thank you. Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 18:27, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
DONE! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:33, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

oh heck, # in two guises

Aaahh, thanks, first time I've ever corrected that MoS issue, and I did take a quick look through the diff. But of course I forgot to be wary of # as a section link symbol. Thanks for fixing. Meh. Tony (talk) 07:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

It's ok, I've almost done it myself before but luckily noticed before I saved! I often use Notepad to just "replace all", and it's easy to forget. :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:53, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Please add your input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs#Singles release date is when FIRST being SOLD as a Single, NOT Radio Airplay

Hello, based on what you said,

I was just wondering if there's any guideline on using a table for release dates of a single. I'd like to know if airplay should be included in the table, as personally I don't think so because you can't purchase a single in airplay format. Please help. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:33, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I think you may be interested in joining the discussion HERE. Thank You.—Iknow23 (talk) 10:47, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 13:28, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome. By the way, is the quote above the one you mean in "(which is actually a discussion I started somewhere recently but I don't think I got any replies)"?—Iknow23 (talk) 02:33, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I was referring to. I just found where I posted it originally. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 02:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Yep, it's in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs/Archive 3. I guess that I titled mine a bit more controversially and generated more interest. LOL.—Iknow23 (talk) 02:45, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Name change

Hey ho, AP. Just to let you know that I've had a username change from Familiae Watts to Junipers Liege. How's the utube cataloging going? Juniper§ Liege (TALK) 15:18, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, hello. I'm bound to forget it's you :S Adding new Youtube videos to my list when they get uploaded, but I don't know if it's worth it as I know I'll never finish, plus the BBC has several youtube accounts uploading EastEnders clips. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:42, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I must say it does seem like a mammoth task (pushing a boulder up a mountainside which you can't see the top of yet!) - having said that, it would be very beneficial. And thanks for fixing my name on the Wikiproject:EE participants list - completely forgot about that!! Juniper§ Liege (TALK) 14:16, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
I've documented two videos so far! User:AnemoneProjectors/EastEnders Youtube. I'm not sure how helpful it will actually be to articles as there are going to be hundreds of videos with several for each character, and lots of videos contain clips from several storylines. I'll still add new videos as I'm notified of them, though. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:53, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

EastEnders Info

Hi. I don't know if you've seen this already,[2], but I thought it might come in handy. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 20:20, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I saw the paper version this morning. But it's just copied from the BBC website, who have now put up all the BMDs. Thanks though. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:32, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Ah, thought I'd found something useful for a while there. :) I do have a quick question about infoboxes. I'd quite like to use the EastEnders infobox design for the Neighbours character pages. Do you know how to go about creating them? It would make adding the family info so much easier and the box would look neater. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 21:09, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Ahhhh, you should just be able to go to Template:Infobox EastEnders character, Template:Infobox EastEnders character 2 or Template:Infobox EastEnders character 3, press edit and copy the whole thing, replacing EastEnders with Neighbours. Or you could use the template {{infobox}}, but I found that doesn't do what we wanted the EastEnders ones to do. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:17, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, it doesn't like it when I replace EastEnders with Neighbours. Think I'll have to play around with {{infobox}}. Thank you for your help, again. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 22:53, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, maybe there's something else that needs changing. Hard to be able to help without seeing what you're doing :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

EastEnders: E20

Hey, I've conducted a GAN review for EastEnders: E20. The article's in good shape, I just have a few comments that I'm sure can be addressed quickly. Please respond to those at your earliest convenience. Thanks! — Hunter Kahn 22:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Cheers, I wondered if you were doing it when I saw you make some edits. I'll see what I can do. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
  • I've passed the article. Nice work! I think the one YouTube thing could be a concern if you ever push this to FAC (which I hope you do some day!) but it's not enough of a problem to hold up a GAN review... — Hunter Kahn 13:32, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
    • Thank you. I didn't change the source for "I'm really thrilled to have been given the opportunity..." though, I'll do that now :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 13:42, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
For your excellent work on EastEnders:E20, which is a real credit to the EastEnders WikiProject. Well done! Frickative 14:25, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Aww thank you! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:34, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

EastEnders Wikia

Visit if you are looking for the image I uploaded on EastEnders Wikia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1990jor (talkcontribs) 22:34, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Shame it can't be used on Wikipedia, since there's no evidence of permission, but thanks for the link nonetheless. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)


Looks as if it will be going on the Main Page on it's anniversary!  :)

I've been really enjoying the episodes this week and I'm really looking forward to the one on Friday. Even though I'm going to be away then, I will still see the episode because ha I'm going to be in London! I'm really hoping that they do play "Julia's theme" at the end of the episode though --5 albert square (talk) 02:15, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I got it added there a few weeks back but forgot about it! So we've got two things to look out for on the Main Page. Thing is, if we got Pauline to the Main Page on the anniversary, we wouldn't have been allowed it in "on this day" as well. So maybe it's a good thing that Old Trafford beat us. I don't think they will play Julia's Theme because I think it's going to be a proper 'Duff Duff' moment! Although I think it will be a sad one as well, so maybe. We'll see! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 02:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC) P.S. I think Stacey did it!
Well, they might. They normally save "Julia's theme" for special episodes like "Frank Week" or for when a character leaves or dies. It's their 25th anniversary, Bradley's leaving and it will be the last episode with Diederick Santer at the helm. It is possible that they will play it. Looking forward to it either way as we get to find out Archie's killer, at the minute I'm swaying between all possible suspects! --5 albert square (talk) 02:46, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
It depends how the episode ends. If it's a sudden ending, they can't use Julia's Theme! Even Danielle's death got a duff duff! I'm hoping the ratings are going to be huge, because EastEnders needs to keep up its tradition of having the highest rated episode ever decade! I've only been swaying between three possible killers, Stacey, Jack and Ben, but Stacey just makes the most sense to me, going by the clues and stuff. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 02:52, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
So, what did you reckon to the live episode then? I loved it! I was near Elstree on the 18th and 19th with a group of friends, also EastEnders fans (1 a massive Bradley one!) so we all went down to see what was happening. From memory, I saw Madeline Duggan, Lorna Fitzgerald, Maisie Smith, Patsy Palmer, Sid Owen, Jamie Borthwick, Derek Martin, Rita Simons, Jane Slaughter, Steve McFadden, John Partridge, Nitin Ganatra, Nina Wadia, Cheryl Fergison, Tiana Benjamin, Gillian Wright, Emer Kenny, David Proud, Neil McDermott, Don Gilet, Lacey Turner, Adam Woodyatt, Cliff Parisi and Scott Maslen and I actually met and spoke to Charlie Clements, Thomas Law, Devon Anderson, Charlie G Hawkins and Jake Wood. I was hoping to see Laurie Brett but she either arrived before I did or arrived in a blacked out car, either way I didn't see her. Am planning to make another trip down later on this year, so maybe see her then --5 albert square (talk) 11:00, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
It was excellent, yes. Next time, take a camera, or better still, take ME and I'll bring mine! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 13:06, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I did take my camera, but it didn't work half the time! Still I got a good picture of me and Jake Wood and my friend took one of me and Charlie Clements. We also went along to the BBC after the live show to see what we could see, there was lots of press there. Charlie Clements managed to get past the lot of them because his girlfriend drove him out, and that was despite me telling them god knows how many times it was him! The press just said it wasn't him because it's not his car, I was just like "yeah, that's because he's got his girlfriend to pick him up!" As for Madeline Duggan, when we saw her, one of my friends posted on Twitter that Madeline Duggan had just arrived in a car and got replies such as "Madeline Duggan drives?". Er, no, read what it says, we didn't say she was driving, she's only 15 lol! --5 albert square (talk) 13:34, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Any chance you can be cut out of the pictures so they can be used on Wikipedia? :P So what's your twitter? I wanna meet the EastEnders cast. Do you live near Borehamwood then? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 13:38, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I'm going to look into doing that once I work out the software for my new camera. My friend has the one of me and Charlie but says she will send it on. I'm also going to ask my friends who else they got, and see if I can get permission to use their photos. No, I'm not from Borehamwood, don't live there, I live in Edinburgh, Scotland! That's why I was kinda hoping to see Laurie as apparently she automatically slips into her scottish voice as soon as she hears another one.
By the way, on the subject of Laurie, is there any chance you could re-protect the Jane Beale page again? I've just come across an edit from someone who looks remarkably like User: Master133 who is just dumping references into the article at random. I was hoping it would be ok unprotected but maybe not --5 albert square (talk) 13:45, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
I hope you got some good pictures then. Oh you live in Scotland, that's a long way to come. Did you just come down to meet the stars? I live in Hertfordshire and I've never been. I wish Laurie Brett would use her real accent when she's not being Jane, but she doesn't! If you meet her and she changes her accent, you'll have to make a recording of it! Reprotection done. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 13:55, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I kind of decided to come and see Elstree for once and decided to make a holiday to London at the same time. Maisie Smith was lovely, even if I didn't really meet her, I waved at her as she was driven in, and she just started waving frantically at everyone there bless! I waved and smiled at Madeline Duggan and got a little shy smile in return. Steve McFadden was hilarious though, he drives so fast, when driving into the car park, a member of the BBC who had right of way coming out, had to brake suddenly because Steve decided he was getting right of way, and he nearly mowed down the security guard in the process! I too wish that Laurie would use her scottish accent when not in Jane mode. My mum is convinced that she is not scottish. I know she is though because I remember her from the Learn Direct Scotland ads but I cannot find them on anywhere now, not even YouTube! So annoying! Thanks for re-protecting the page, I'm so convinced that's user Master 133, I've posted a warning on the anon IP page explaining sockpuppetry --5 albert square (talk) 14:20, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Yep, definitely the same user. (S)he's been messaging me through asking me to add references (even without adding facts) and remove that she signed a 1 year contract, etc. I've refused. Every other EastEnders actor uses their real accent when not in character, Laurie should too! Just look at Pam St Clement! She's dead posh. Now hurry up and show me your pictures! :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:26, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry advice

Hi, I hope you don't mind me coming to you with a query, you just happen to be the only Admin that I interact with on a regular basis :) It seems pretty clear to me that User: and User:Tramlink, currently causing disruption at Tony King, are one and the same. The main account hadn't been used at all since December 2009, but as soon as the IP received a 3RR warning yesterday, the account kicked in making the exact same edits. I have used WP:SPI in the past, but not for over a year, and reading the instructions now it's made plain that editors shouldn't file a report in the case of an obvious sock, or one passing the duck test. I'm a little concerned that I've been too riled by the disruption to be properly objective though, so basically I just wanted your opinion on whether this is too blatant to open a CheckUser request over or not. On a related note, thanks for pointing out how close to breaking 3RR I was myself yesterday. I'm usually better at being able to step back. Frickative 15:14, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes it's clear to me as well. I haven't ever really used WP:SPI to start an investigation, I just like to block obvious socks. But I never really know what to do when it's a user logging in and out all the time. I don't think Checkuser is necessary as it's pretty obvious they're the same person. About the 3RR, it was my way of letting you know that I would do the next revert so you didn't have to :) Ooh watch the omnibus now on BBC Two it just went to the live ep! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:28, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Stacey Branning or is it Slater????

Hi, just to let you know that there's kind of a discussion going on at User talk:Joelrussell regarding this. Thought I would let you know in case you would like to make any comment :) --5 albert square (talk) 16:58, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah seen. The page should stay at Stacey Slater as previously established. Same as Amira Shah. Fed up of this coming up all the time. I might protect Stacey Branning to stop more cut/paste moves. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:08, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I was about to suggest just that. I'm more inclined to think that she will stick with Branning this time because she will feel extremely guilty at his death, but she may well do that and change her mind again after a few months. If she ever gets arrested for this, I daresay we'll find out what name she wants to be called by at her court hearing! --5 albert square (talk) 17:17, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Well, again, she'll stay Stacey Branning until we know otherwise. Even after they divorced, we kept her as "Branning nee Slater" until she was refered to as Stacey Slater on screen in a "legal" fashion. Stacey Branning is now the characters "legal" name until she changes it or remarries, but the articel should stay at Stacey Slater. We've had this debate too many times, the decision was made and another marriage should not change the outcome. Even if she were to marry Ryan Malloy, for example, the article would stay at Stacey Slater. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Garry Roost and Caroline Pegg

Hi. I see that you deleted these two articles. They were originally new, but seemed to be about notable subjects. Then, an editor replaced the content with a redirect to EastEnders. Then you deleted the articles stating "... has appeared in many shows so a redirect to just one of them doesn't make sense." I posted at the editor's talk page who made the redirect, asking why. These may deserve to stand as articles. Sorry I can't give you more info, but the articles' histories are gone, and I can't find the editor to whom I wrote. Please advise. Thanks!! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:03, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah you're right, they could stand as articles on their own. As they were, all they said was "so and so is an actor best known for playing [character] in EastEnders." I think they should only be recreated when they've got some sources in them, but looking at IMDb they were both in quite a few things before EastEnders. The person who did the redirects was User:MuffledThud. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:43, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
Can you restore them or do they need a rewrite? Thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:50, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I'll restore them. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 13:18, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
I see it. Thanks very much. Happy editing. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:27, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Roy Stride

Hi AnemoneProjectors, I've begun work on a Roy Stride article in the project sandbox. I would appreciate any help I could get. Thanks Rock drum (talk·contribs·guestbook) 15:15, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Top 10 singles

Hi mate, You may have seen that I have created a number of articles with the name "List of top 10 singles in .... (UK)". Would you be able to help me with creating stub articles for songs that don't have articles and are certainly notable. I also think these lists have the potential to be featured with a decent lead and some references. 03md 21:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I've seen some, and they're really good, didn't realise you'd made so many! To be honest, I'm really busy right now with Wikiproject EastEnders stuff, but looking at some of the red links, I'm not so sure they should get articles, despite being top ten singles. Know what I mean? :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:47, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I understand - I might find someone else who could help (unless you know another user?). I also see your point about some of the redlinks. I have seen your working on the Archie case and it is very impressive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 03md (talkcontribs) 23:04, 23 February 2010
Thanks :) Some of those red links made me think "huh? never heard of that!" Hope you find someone to help. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 01:20, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Advice please

Hi Anemone

I'm looking for some advice on how to handle this please. I was reverting edits to a page before because an editor kept removing content. The editor said that he worked for this Christian Audigier and says that some of the information that we have is libellous. I warned the editor against editing pages they're closely associated with etc and the editor has now posted this on my talk page:

hello there, I've been trying to remove the Christian Audigier page because it contains incorrect information, not to mention slanderous comments, ie "Deuches" and a lot of other innappropriate statements. His birthday is wrong, his place of birth and overall summary is awful. I work in marketing at Ed Hardy corporate, and my responsibility and focus is to maintain a proper on-line presence. Legal has asked me to get involved in this or they will. Please make sure you remove and keep the wiki page removed until we upload a new bio and ref info.

Thank you.

I was going to reply and simply say that I cannot blank the page, but as the person is threatening with his legal department I thought I'd get your advice on this as well. Is there anything else I should mention seeing as they're threatening legal action? --5 albert square (talk) 22:34, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Try Wikipedia:No legal threats. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:40, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Also, they should read Wikipedia:Libel and send an email following the instructions there. Then someone higher up will deal with it. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Anemone :) --5 albert square (talk) 23:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


Just so you know, you are closing to breaking the 3RR rule on Sam Mitchell (EastEnders). Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:33, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, as far as I'm concerned I was reverting copyright violations and/or vandalism, and not edit warring. anemoneprojectorstalk 22:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)


I wondered if you would think the same as I did about this user. I was just waiting for them to make another edit so I could be sure before I reported them as being a sock of Ln of x --5 albert square (talk) 22:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I was waiting for another edit too. Blanking my talk page was that edit that confirmed it for me. The account was indef blocked for vandalism anyway so no need to report it. I tagged the user page as a sock. anemoneprojectors talk 22:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, glad to hear of it. I held off because I've noticed with Ln of x, they usually disrupt Abi Branning and Lorna Fitzgerald on the same day and use slightly different wording, and Abi Brannings article hasn't been touched in a few days. Speaking of Abi, I hope her and Lauren are in Fridays episode as I believe that is when Bradley's funeral is being held --5 albert square (talk) 22:54, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Ln of x's edits are slightly different to how they used to be. The last Ln of x edits were mostly just saying the actress was talented, with no mention of being cuddly and adorable. Lauren and Abi are both in EastEnders on Friday, plus Abi next Tuesday. anemoneprojectors talk 22:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for EastEnders Live

Updated DYK query On March 5, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article EastEnders Live, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Calmer Waters 06:02, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Not taking credit for that one, it was Frickative. I guess this happens with double-DYKs where each article was written by a separate person... anemoneprojectors talk 11:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)


So what did you reckon to tonights episode?

Lovely to see Abi and Lauren again - it really does seem an age since we last saw Lauren. Though I bet when people saw a 4x4 pulling up outside the church they probably thought it was Stacey arriving not Lauren!

Not keen on Becca and Max. Bax is next? No, just no. As for Whitney and Billie, that was just so disrespectful what they did tonight, bursting into Max's kitchen laughing and joking and then joyriding around the Square.

Loved Julia's theme though - digitally enhanced - just rounded off the episode. The only downside was not seeing Stacey, but I guess that's in keeping with the character at the moment.

And yes, EastEnders for domination of the main page lol --5 albert square (talk) 23:50, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Missed this last night. Umm not a forum but yeah, it was a good episode. Not as good as the one with Lucy and Peter's chat. That whole episode was just really.... sweet. I thought the final scene last night was just tacked on as an excuse to use Julia's theme. anemoneprojectors talk 17:23, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Let's Dance

Hi! I just wanted to comment on the edits that you reverted earlier today. I reverted your edits as I kept the balance with what was done for last year's Let's Dance for Comic Relief. I don't know how they introduced them, but last year they had Cliff Parisi and John Partridge as well as Lisa Maxwell and Patrick Robinson on from Eastenders and The Bill and the person who was in charge of editing that page last year added the little prefix in saying Eastenders' Cliff Parisi and John Partridge. So, when they appeared again this year, I did the same as whomever did it last year. I was told by an editor on wikipedia that it was a good thing to keep the balance on a Wikipedia page when it comes to a show with several series. So that's what I did. Do you understand? (talk) 22:21, 7 March 2010 (UTC) samusek2

Yes I understand, and for that reason I'm making further changes. Hope it's acceptable to you. anemoneprojectors talk 22:23, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

That's cool but I only reverted the part about the Bill to align itself like the Comic Relief Bill dancers. They may have introduced them as the Bill, but we also don't know how they introduced Lisa Maxwell and Patrick Robinson last year. Did they say "The Bill" or " Patrick Robinson and Lisa Maxwell from the Bill" ? So I believe we should do the same fo rthis year. (at least for The Bill) (talk) 22:45, 7 March 2010 (UTC) samusek2

I didn't really watch it last year, so I don't know how actors from EastEnders and The Bill were introduced. I know this year The Bill was called The Bill but Cheryl Fergison wasn't called EastEnders :) I think it should match how they were introduced. Hmm I'm disappointed that I missed two EastEnders stars in it last year! Maybe we can find out how they were introduced if there are videos on Youtube. anemoneprojectors talk 22:50, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
According to official youtube videos, actors from The Bill were "The Bill" last year ( and Cliff and John from EastEnders were "EastEnders" ( anemoneprojectors talk 01:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Wait, what?

You're serious about being a nudist?!-The Untamed Beast 19:29, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Aren't you meant to be retired? anemoneprojectors talk 19:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeh, I am supposed to be retired, but I am returning soon, and I was in the middle of cleaning up my stuff and getting it ready when I stumbled across your page and said hi.-Jakkinx|Talk|Sign! 04:56, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. Hi! anemoneprojectors talk 09:18, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Who Killed Archie?

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Calmer Waters 06:03, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Is EastEnders trying to take over the main page? All you need is a worthy WP:ITN/C story and you've covered all the sections. :P Well done, btw. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 11:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
lol yes that would be good! But very unlikely. anemoneprojectors talk 11:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Is this of any use to you? I just came across it while looking for Neighbours news. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 23:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks but no. I've been removing it from Amira Shah. I think it falls under WP:TWITTER. anemoneprojectors talk 00:05, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Me again. I just wanted to let you know that the Neighbours character infobox problem has been solved. A very kind editor created one, to help improve the Paul Robinson article. I just need to go round all of the character articles and change them now. Thank you for trying to help when I first asked about them. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 11:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh that's good. Are all the Neighbours characters categorised in a Neighbours characters category? If they are, I could use WP:AWB to replace all the infoboxes for you, although I'm going out shortly so won't be able to do it just now. It's semi-automatic so would save you a lot of trouble. anemoneprojectors talk 11:53, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
There is a Neighbours characters category. 5asq and myself have already changed a few of the current cast boxes over, but if you have an easier way that would be great. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 16:28, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, 5asq uses AWB as well... :) anemoneprojectors talk 18:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
So she does, I'll let her know that she can use it to change the boxes. Thank you. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm assuming more needs to be changed than just "Infobox soap character" to "Infobox Neighbours character"? I can easily change that, but other stuff still needs to be done manually. However, AWB can still be used to make the other manual edits at the same time :) anemoneprojectors talk 19:38, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh dear, the Neighbours infobox template has been proposed for deletion. Did this happen with EastEnders? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 13:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Nope. I saw, though. The {{infobox soap character}} needs serious cleaning up. The relationships part shows even if there aren't any. It's horrible. To be honest I don't think there's much chance of this one being saved. Don't mention the EE template in the discussion cos then that'll get nominated too! anemoneprojectors talk 13:47, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm not going to mention EastEnders by name or Hollyoaks, which has it's own one too. I think my reason for keeping it is that it's miles better then the {{infobox soap character}} and I've already changed so many over, lol. God, I'm going to have to change them all back. :( - JuneGloom07 Talk? 14:05, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm so sorry, but another editor has mentioned Eastenders in their comment. :( - JuneGloom07 Talk? 14:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
(undent) Don't worry about it. Maybe a new improved soap infobox will get created based on the EastEnders one, and EastEnders will change over to that. I'll keep an eye on the discussion. anemoneprojectors talk 14:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Quick question, I don't think Jill Ramsay should have her own article since she appeared for one episode and then died. Can I re-direct it to List of Neighbours characters (2009) (once I've uploaded it) or do I need to open a discussion about moving it first? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 15:37, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I would just do it. anemoneprojectors talk 15:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Lauren and Abi Branning

Hi, noticed your edit summaries. From what I can remember Max sent Abi back to Tanya - didn't he think that the girls belonged together? Or that Abi belonged with her mother?

As for Lauren, I don't remember seeing her between splitting up with Peter and Bradley's funeral --5 albert square (talk) 22:15, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't remember Max sending her back but kind of assumed that's what would have happened. Thanks. anemoneprojectors talk 22:17, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome, the more I think about it the more certain I am that Max told her to go home. After all it's really not like Abi to just leave her dad for her mum, she's too much of a dad's girl for that :) --5 albert square (talk) 00:15, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, she is! anemoneprojectors talk 00:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Helloeverybody123

Hi Anemone

I'm not sure what to make of this. I happened to stumble across this users talk page before because they seem to be adding unreferenced rumours to EastEnders pages and I've noticed that they seem to have copied your talk page messages on to their talk page? Dunno why but I thought I should make you aware of it --5 albert square (talk) 17:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

If you ever see that, it's User:Trueman31. Blocked and reverted. If you see anything that says "The BBC has confirmed that the character will leave...." and it's obviously untrue, it's Trueman31. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Ah ok, I've heard of Trueman31 before but never come across any of his edits. Was about to report Harrypottersecrets or whatever the other name was but I see that you've already blocked them. When he attacks is there specific pages (like Ln of X usually attacks Abi Branning/Lorna Fitzgerald) that he attacks or is it just random EastEnders pages? --5 albert square (talk) 18:11, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Random EastEnders character pages, but generally current ones. Most infamous for saying Steve McFadden is taking a role as James Bond and Dot Branning will be killed off due to smoking-related cancer. When a page is protected, he just moves onto the next. Usually doesn't edit as many as he has done in the last two days. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Haha I bet that Steve McFadden would love to be 007 though! By the way did you see the edits someone made to Pam St Clement before? Someone saying that she is also currently a rapper and singer. I had to laugh when I reverted that! --5 albert square (talk) 18:20, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
No because I'm not watching that page. Wikipedia vandalism was in the news today... The Sun reported that someone wrote that Ruth Langsford was having a two-year affair with Fern Britton and it was there for about a day. Ruth saw the funny side :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Helloeverybody123 is making some pretty stupid edits,it just makes me laugh to see the stuff he comes up with for each character Brianwazere 01:02, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Well he's been blocked for hours so he shouldn't be making any edits now :) anemoneprojectorstalk 01:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Would you like me to shank him brah? East enders is serious fucking business and not just for the bottom centile (intelligence wise) of the female population and homosexual men. (talk) 23:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
Umm, that sounds mean, so no thanks. anemoneprojectors talk 23:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Is that user still blocked they havn't edited for a while? Brianwazere 21:35, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

What user? anemoneprojectors talk 21:36, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh sorry i wrote in the wrong section i meant to put it in the sectiob before this one Brianwazere 22:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough, I've moved it there! User:Helloeverybody123 is indefinitely blocked for being a sockpuppet of Trueman31. But several more accounts have been created (and indef blocked) since, including one that just blanked this page twice. anemoneprojectors talk 22:38, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Alexandra Burke

Hey. Can you please on Alexandra Burke's article add all the countries that 'Bad Boys' have charted in to her discography. She's number 1 in Poland and that isn't even in 'Bad Boys' chart section. (talk) 22:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but I can't, because we should limit it to just ten countries or regions, and ten are already listed. Also, I haven't seen any evidence that she did reach number one in Poland. There doesn't seem to be an official Polish singles chart (the Polish National Top 50 and the chart on are both listed at WP:BADCHARTS). anemoneprojectors talk 22:38, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Tony Coburn

Hi. I read the account re: Tony Coburn by Stef Stargazer. You edited and removed his writings and substituted your own. I wonder why? You say Tony died in 1978...why? He died in 1977. I am wondering where you got your facts from?Renault12ts (talk) 23:06, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I didn't write it, I just reverted to an older revision written by other editors. I pointed Stef Stargazer in the direction of WP:COI and WP:OR, but if there are errors on the page, they should be discussed on the talk page or cited using reliable sources. Comments such as "All in all, 3/10, very poor.. Must try harder..", "VERIFIABLE HISTORICAL AND GLARING VERIFIABLE FACTUAL ERROR NOTICE: wrong again!" or "REMOVED FACTUAL ERROR NOTICE" within the article are also extremely unhelpful. As for yourself, please do not make comments like "Why do you persist in editing the truthful account given by Tony's son Steven (calls himself Stef)" in the article - if you have problems with the page, please write on Talk:Anthony Coburn instead. Thank you. anemoneprojectors talk 23:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Ritz bitz


Sorry but is it possible for you to delete this page please?

I think there's been an error with it, I went to request speedy deletion but I think I did it at the same time that it was being deleted last time. For some reason it's reinstated the article showing nothing but my speedy delete template and why the page couldn't be found, yet a bot just patrolled it and passed it as a new page! --5 albert square (talk) 00:27, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

 Done - strange! anemoneprojectors talk 00:31, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't understand page patrolling, though. anemoneprojectors talk 00:34, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, it is strange isn't it! Previously when I've requested speedy deletion for a page that's been deleted I just get a message saying that it's already been deleted and saying why it was deleted. This time though it seems to have re-created the page and then Dashbot went along and patrolled the page saying it was ok! I might actually have a word with Dashbot's user as I'm fairly certain the page shouldn't have been marked as patrolled when it was marked for speedy deletion, I would've thought that the bot should've deleted it.
Thanks again! --5 albert square (talk) 00:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)


Dear Anemone

I am assuming that you are a fan of Rhydian. I have just got back from the Royal Albert Hall and he was excellent.

With reference to your substituting "Roberts" for every reference to Rhydian in the article, I think that he is universally known as Rhydian and can't understand why you would have made this substitution. The fan badges say Rhydian and indeed, while giving him both name and surname as a heading, this biog. for example names him as Rhydian throughout. You will also notice that almost all the YouTube videos dispense with the surname and call him Rhydian.

Why would you want to consistently call him "Roberts" when he is universally known as "Rhydian?"

I won't reverse your edit as I can see you are very vigilant and I don't want to offend you and I somehow feel that you would just counter-reverse no matter what the merits of the situation are. But it is better to be kind than "right," and with all due respect I think you are wrong here.

So I would ask you to reconsider this and perhaps undo it yourself.

by the way (grovel, grovel), I love cats too. FClef (talk) 01:11, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I'm not a Rhydian fan. I just happen to have the article on my watchlist since he was on X Factor, and I think it's in a bit of a state. I think it's more encyclopaedic to refer to him as Roberts throughout the article. It seems a bit unprofessional to put "Rhydian did this". I know Madonna is only refered to as Madonna and her article reflects that, but I dunno, in this case it just doesn't look right. anemoneprojectors talk 01:26, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I agree the article is in a bit of a state, and that is why I (as a writing professional, among other things...although not a wikipedia administrator) have been tightening it and getting rid of some of the guff. To say it doesn't "look right" to refer to Rhydian as "Rhydian" I still find puzzling. Looking at other X Factor articles and can see that they all refer to the contestants only by their surnames. I can only assume that you have a semi-proprietary interest in X-Factor articles, but surely that doesn't override subjects' right to be known as they are commonly known? Seems contrary to reason.
Would you mind if we at least sprinkle a few references to him as Rhydian around, so that he may be known as Rhydian? It is after all the name that people know him as, and I think - tbh - that you are sacrificing this to a misplaced desire for consistency at the expense of familiarity. Seems unfair to the artist, tbh. A kind of "encyclopaedically correct" version of "politically correct"? I am sure you are larger-spirited than that.FClef (talk) 01:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
The reason I don't think it looks right is because Wikipedia uses last names with very few exceptions. A similar example is Darius Campbell (previously Danesh) and although he's recorded under the name "Darius", the article refers to him as Campbell throughout, but says in the opening paragraph that he's known professionally as Darius. I think the same should be done with Rhydian. And it's a fact that his name is Rhydian Roberts, regardless of what he uses to record by. For example, when he won a bursary, he was Rhydian Roberts. "Rhydian" is more like a stage name. anemoneprojectors talk 01:47, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
But don't you generally know people by their stage names? I understand what you're saying, but "regardless of what he uses to record by" seems strangely pedantic. I have worked the intro and I have done something of a split in the article. Change it if you must but I would be sorry to see my work and opinions disrespected in this way. FClef (talk) 02:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC).
Maybe I'm being pedantic. I disagree but I refuse to get in an edit war. I'm sure if other experienced editors came across the article they would make the same changes. Unfortunately your last edit means I can't undo the previous one (where you undid my edit) so I would have to change everything manually once again and I don't have the patience to do it twice. anemoneprojectors talk 02:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I've found the relevant guideline in the Manual of Style that says this: "People who are best known by a pseudonym shall be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames, unless they do not include a recognizable surname in the pseudonym (i.e. Madonna, Snoop Dogg, The Edge), in which case the whole pseudonym is to be used. For people well-known by one-word names, nicknames or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally (i.e. musician/actors Beyoncé Knowles, André Benjamin, Jennifer Lopez; doctor/broadcaster Dr. Drew Pinsky), use the legal surname." I suppose you're right, then. anemoneprojectors talk 02:28, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Fascinating, fascinating! (no, seriously) I have looked at, e.g., Sir Cliff Richard and Elvis Presley, and I see what you mean - they are mostly referred to by their surnames. Well, blow me down! Looking at your comment above, Anem., isn't your last sentence ironic? (It is written pretty impenetrably, but I thought it supported your point, and if it does, I apologise. Please let me know, and I will manually correct the article back as you had it if that is the case. I will just say that almost no one - I speak of a fan such as myself - would recognize the name "Roberts" as signifying Rhydian. I still don't understand the impenetrable legalese of the Manual of Style. What a great thing to read to put oneself to sleep, something which is eluding me at the moment)
I hardly dare ask, but can we please "Hide" the X-factor thingy at the bottom as is done with Leona Lewis (I read your Standard interview), for example? (Rhydian is now three years away from the show...)
Red cat.
FClef (talk) 03:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Hey sorry if last night I was a bit blunt or whatever, I was having tired and annoyed with iTunes (also I hate being wrong)! I'm pretty sure the guideline I quoted supports your point because, like Shakira, Rhydian does not use his surname (but Elvis and Cliff did/do). Has he ever used it professionally? Interestingly, I'm watching This Morning and just now Holly Willoughby refered to him as "Rhydian Roberts". I guess because I'm on Wikipedia and the article has been named Rhydian Roberts for so long I know him as Rhydian Roberts so I would have pushed for using his last name, but from what you have said, he doesn't use it. If his third album used the name Roberts, we'd have to change it all! I'm not sure if I can force the navigation template to collapse by default - the one on Leona's page is collapsed because there is more than one template there. anemoneprojectors talk 11:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
You have done a WONDERFUL job of editing, and I blush to tell you this, but in fact he does use the name Rhydian Roberts. My point was that he is hardly ever termed "Rhydian Roberts" in general reference - and that's why the article name was correct as it stood, with a "Rhydian" Redirect to it. Unlike, say, Angelia Jolie, whose surname is an integral part of her identification in the public's mind (Angelinajolie), or Juliaroberts or Drewbarrymore or Camerondiaz, Rhydian Roberts - through retaining his surname professionally - is generally thought of and referred to as Rhydian. Look for example at his fansite, which uses both names in its URL address but at the top just calls him "Rhydian" and doesn't refer to his surname anywhere on the site....I have to say that you are right and according to the a Stanual of Mile (yes, I am feeling crazy enough to spoonerize it) you would be correct in surnaming him throughout, but it is not how he is popularly known, although he is INTRODUCED that way. By the way, hot off the presses, today's report has no mention of his surname.... The wonder continues. FClef (talk) 18:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, let's leave it as it is for now since all his albums are by "Rhydian", and just treat him like we would treat Shakira. anemoneprojectors talk 19:08, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
By the way, thanks for the cute cat :) anemoneprojectors talk 20:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for assurances, apologies, amendments and appreciation of cat. You are right that his albums are credited to Rhydian. I've just had another look at the CD cover for the 2nd album. Choose the "Listen to All" option at the tracklist, and you may get converted by tracks 8 and 11. I have spent <hours> completely revamping the article today. Added in the YouTube links for most of Rhyd's X Factor performances. Cat for the day: the seven weeks old pic here - scroll down. Au revoir! FClef (talk) 04:02, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

(undent) Your work on the article is appreciated. However, I don't think it's a good idea to include external links to youtube videos within the article. If people want to see them, they'll have to find them themselves. Also, "impressive appearances" and "he performed moving versions" goes against the neutral point of view policy. That's just a few things I spotted when briefly looking through. Hopefully the rest is ok! anemoneprojectors talk 10:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Anemone oracle, you are right and I have fixed these. I think the point I was making was that, with the two bulleted lists, the "impressive appearances" were the spectacular ones, whereas the "moving versions" were his soaring renditions of power/iconic ballads. I will find some way of expressing this in due course, unless you get there first. NB I have relegated the YouTube links to Notes in those situations requiring a citation.FClef (talk) 16:32, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Lingerie tape

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Matt Di Angelo


I'm after some advice as I've noticed you've undone my latest two additions to Matt Di Angelo's page relating to the next series of Hustle and more information on Fried Brain Sandwich. Have I've forgotten to add something or is there anything I need to do to enable these edits to remain? I thought I had included the relevant certification in terms of links to websites, especially as the Hustle one is the official website of Matt Di Angelo's agent. Is this not enough? I would appreciate further advice as I'm considering revamping the page to make it look neater and more professional ie. listing his early career work, Eastenders, Hustle and future projects but wouldn't want to start this and not include the relevant information/links necessary especially as it would be nice to get the page as accurate as possible - in terms of career at least.


Grumpy Cow (talk) 15:54, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

ps. Hope I've followed the talk page guidelines and signed this message. If not it's not intentional and apologies, I'm still getting used to Wikki.

History of EastEnders

Hi there., long time no speak! Thanks for informing me about the changes to the lists of minor characters. I think they look a lot better now, and I am going to try to devote a bit more of my wikitime to EE from now on. Looking through the EE wiki pages I came across the History of EastEnders article. Now, while there is some really good stuff in this article, I cant help feel its got some really important info missing on the history and development of EE.

While the article is very good at summarizing the early days of EE, its 'Later History' section streaks through a large time frame with very little detail. We then have quite a large section about the 25th anniversry, but no earlier mention of the 10th or 20th anniversaries. In particular, I think it would be good to include EE's 'dark days', particularly EE's 'comedy' year in 1989 under Mike Gibbon after the departure of Julia Smith and Tony Holland (there already is some good detail about this period in certain character articles of the time, such as Julie Cooper (EastEnders)), as well as EE's ratings dip in 2004 and Louise Berrridge's published apology.

However, I am aware that bits EE's history already exisit on wiki in other articles, particularly the main EastEnders page, and I dont want to duplicate anything. So I come to you, as a fountain of EE wiki knowledge for some guidance! Any ideas? Bleaney (talk) 16:10, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello, good to see you back. Yes, the article needs work. I agree with everything you've suggested, and if there's anything in the main EastEnders page that duplicates it, wel, that doesn't really matter if it's relevant to the history of the show, but I'm not sure what would duplicate it - maybe parts of the critique section? Don't worry about duplication. Sometimes topics overlap and there is duplication. Just look at Who Killed Archie? and EastEnders Live. A fair bit of duplication between those two articles. anemoneprojectors talk 16:26, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, ive started. I'm finding that a lot of info for the History of EastEnders can be found on the pages of the various past Exec producers of EE, but ive come across an inconsistancy, namely Sharongate. The article on Barbara Emile claims she was responsible for the Sharongate storyline as exec producer, but so does the article on Corinne Hollingworth, which also seems to indicate that Sharongate was the 10th anniversary storyline. But none of the dates add up, and all of the articles are sourced. Any thoughts? Bleaney (talk) 18:18, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Well, that's a good place to find info. As long as it's sourced. Sharongate climaxed in October 1994, so was not an anniversary storyline. So that hopfully solves that problem :) anemoneprojectors talk 18:26, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Pretty Baby....

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Ln of x

Having blocked Ln of x's socks a few times, I considered the possibility, but the editor didn't seem to be as creepy as Ln. In any case, htat's why I've got his habitual targets watchlisted. Acroterion (talk) 17:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Their edits aren't always creepy, and in the past they have included calling Lorna Fitzgerald "the most likeable actor in EastEnders" and similar. In fact, the last sockpuppet I blocked was totally non-creepy. They made this edit to Lorna, and I wouldn't have been suspicious but the username seemed to be in Ln's style. On checking the contributions, this edit made me suspicious, since Ln is known to have edited that article as well. I didn't block though, until they started creating articles about Blink-182, and Ln is known to be a fan of that particular band. So yeah, not everything by Ln is creepy, but I've been blocking and reverting the socks since the beginning so I know exactly what to look out for. anemoneprojectors talk 18:48, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Louise Mitchell picture

On the page: List of eastenders characters 2001 you have put in a caption saying Brittany Papple as Louise Mitchell except it is still a picture of Danni Bennatar. Just thought you would like to know.Cheers!Could you leave me a message on my talk page so i know you got this. Once again thanks alot. Gobbleswoggler (talk) 20:27, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

It's Brittany Papple on my screen. I uploaded a new image. Maybe you need to purge. anemoneprojectors talk 20:42, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Gobbleswoggler (talk) 21:03, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Classification of Rhydian article

Dear AnemoneProjector

Is there any chance that you, with administrator-type hobnailed boots, might leap in and alter the low classification of the Rhydian article at the Biography portal. It has only been classified as Start, and is now worth a C at least if not a B, imho.

There are several bits and pieces at the top of the Discussion page of the Rhydian article - are they all still relevant?

Also, could you please revert the unsigned edit by someone who removed "Impossible Dream" from the X Factor songs? Have no idea why they did that, and he did sing it on the show. I know I could do it but thought it would carry more weight with you.

Thanks. I'm off for a beer and curry. Have a great evening. --FClef (talk) 19:03, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

I have reverted that edit. I think the article is C-class, as I think there are just a few issues that still need to be worked on, such as the format of the references. The Wikiproject tags at the top of the talk page are all relevant as it's a biographical article about an X Factor contastant from Wales, so the article is within the scope of all three WikiProjects. And obviously the living persons template applies, as he's living. It is to remind users of the BLP policy. But you don't have to be an administrator to do anything you've asked me to do. Anyone can revert edits (there's an "undo" link) and anyone can assess articles. anemoneprojectors talk 19:17, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! and understood about the Wproject tags. Any advice on how to better the format of the references? I am not quite au fait with this although I have done some referencing in the past. Can you beautify them or advise me? --FClef (talk) 23:43, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
Sure. A lot of the references just use bare urls. There is a tool that can help fix them, which you can read about at User:Dispenser/Reflinks. If that seems too complicated, you might want to do it manually. It's best to use citation templates, such as {{cite web}}. There's also a tool that can help with that, which you can read about at Wikipedia:RefToolbar. I highly recommend it, I use it all the time as it's easier than typing the whole template. The easiest way to install it is through the Gadgets tab in your preferences. See also Wikipedia:Citing sources. anemoneprojectors talk 23:58, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Dot Branning

Hi Anemone

I thought I'd offer my services, if you nominate Dot Branning again for GA, would you like me to review it? I did wonder about it last time but I was worried that my username would be seen as a conflict of interest and then I thought it was being reviewed for some reason, but obviously not! I've checked her history and although I could've also sworn that I had contributed to her article it would appear not!

It may take me a few days to get to it, but a few days is better than a few months :)

I've had a quick look at the article, from what I've seen I think I would just agree with what the other reviewer said.

That said, I don't understand why this nomination wasn't just put on hold. When I nominated The Bill for GA, the reviewer had to put it on hold for 3 months for me because of the work and research that I needed to do! Similarly when I nominated Neighbours that was put on hold for a month or so --5 albert square (talk) 01:07, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

I guess you could do, if you've never edited the article. Maybe now that the GAR has closed though, Gungadin might want to complete the sections she didn't manage to finish before. I think there are details on the talk page of what she wanted to add. anemoneprojectors talk 01:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


Hi, noticed that you have been editing the recently created Popstars (UK series 1) article. I just want to point out a few innacuracies in the article -

Firstly, there was no public voting in this series, the final line up of contestants that formed Hear'Say were picked by the judges NOT the public.

There were no live episodes, all episodes were pre-recorded and edited.

Davina McCall did NOT host the series, there was no host, just a voice over artist. There was no Popstars Extra show either!

All of these things only started in the second series, Popstars the Rivals.

Many thanks Bleaney (talk) 01:52, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

I haven't even read that article, I just made a few minor corrections that I noticed. I didn't watch the series so I don't know a lot about it, but I know there was no live element and no public voting. Maybe you'd like to correct the errors, if you haven't already done so. anemoneprojectors talk 02:01, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Paloma Faith

Hi, I was just wondering if the German music chart is accepted on Wikipedia, as it has been removed twice now from the Paloma Faith discography? I checked WP:BADCHARTS, but don't remember seeing it on the list. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 18:33, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah German charts are fine, but I checked to see what the problem might be and it looks like she hasn't charted in Germany. What site are you using? P.S. hope you don't mind, I've moved this to a new section to allow the older stuff to archive - since it's not related to the other discussions :) anemoneprojectors talk 18:45, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
She has charted in Germany, just not very high. I used the Music Line site. I added refs to all the chart positions, but they were removed and I gave up adding them back. I'm planning to move the discography stuff to a seperate article eventually and getting back to improving the main article. I don't mind you moving this at all, I probably should have started a new section. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:03, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Oh yes, I see now that she did chart. I looked at the other German charts site. I've decided to restore it but I've added the reference in the table - it might be helpful if the other charts were referenced similarly. anemoneprojectors talk 19:10, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for that. I intend to reference the other charts the same way when I figure out how. I've been working on her discography in my sandbox and hopefully I'll get round to finishing it soon. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome. Well, I'm sure you know how to add references in general (or do you?!) so just add a <br /> after the country and add the reference after that. If you don't already have it switched on, I recommend using the refTools gadget for citing. anemoneprojectors talk 19:42, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Yep, I do know how to add references, lol. I just wanted to know how to add references for all the peak positions under the countries, which you've explained. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:52, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Evening. I was just about to create the Paloma Faith discography article, but noticed that it was created before then redirected back to the main article as it was a bit premature. I was just wondering how to create the discography now? Oh, the German peak positions section was removed from her singles table again. I can't work out why. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 20:17, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
You can just recreate the page, removing the redirect - it's not protected or anything. However, I think it might be redirected back again. But it's up to you. anemoneprojectors talk 20:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I might wait a little while. I'm planning to bring the article up to GA, so perhaps I'll move the album and singles tables to a seperate article then. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 21:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind if I put this here, I've just come across Chloe Cammeniti. It's an article about a child that appeared in Neighbours in 2008 for a few months after her birth. Do you think it should be redirected to the mother's article? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 18:38, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

I see it was previously deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chloe Cammeniti. I could speedy delete it as a recreation, or you could redirect it, but the article shouldn't stand. If you redirect it and someone reverts you, let me know and I'll protect the redirect. anemoneprojectors talk 19:00, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I've redirected it to Carmella Cammeniti. Thanks for that. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:12, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
I've watchlisted it just in case, but chances are I'll forget why I did it if I see edits! anemoneprojectors talk 19:14, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi. The editor who has removed Paloma's German peak chart postitions has left me a message on my talk page saying that Paloma asked them to remove the positions because she didn't make the top 40. I was wondering how to respond to that? Paloma should be proud/grateful that she charted over there and I don't think that's a good enough reason for removing the info. What do you think?. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 18:52, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, that's interesting. But a) how do we know Paloma really asked them to do that? b) why is she looking at her own Wikipedia page? and c) it's pretty much tough. We have to report the facts, good and bad. Not that that's a bad one, but it looks like she doesn't think so. It's a fact so there's no reason to remove it. Just like the person who keeps asking us to remove the fact that Laurie Brett signed a one-year contract - there's no reason to remove it. There's an obvious conflict of interest, direct them to that page. anemoneprojectors talk 19:05, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. I've just had a look at their history and found that they've created a tour page for Paloma, which has been proposed for deltetion and they've created a couple of templates for themselves. Can Template:Jagoperson and Template:User Jagoperson be speedily deleted or do they need to be taken to TFD? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:24, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I deleted both as test pages. I'll have a look at their history :) anemoneprojectors talk 19:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Anemone, how do you create a sock puppet investigation, I've never done it before. Myself and RadioFan believe that another editor showing up to support the keeping of Paloma Faith Tour to be more then coincidence. Plus, an editor called RihannaBase has also just shown up defending the article (Jagoperson just so happens to be a Rihanna fan). - JuneGloom07 Talk? 22:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
I've never done it before either. 5as has though, could you ask her? anemoneprojectors talk 22:33, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Will do. Blimey, this isn't helping me get my Uni essay done, but I don't really want to leave potential sock puppets around. I wonder if that could be a suitable excuse to give my tutor if I hand in my essay late? Lol. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 22:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Ooh SPIs are easy cos there's a handy button that you press on WP:SPI. I have actually done it before, but forgot. And I did mean 5as not 5ab but you knew who I meant lol anemoneprojectors talk 11:05, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I managed to work it out in the end with the help of 5asq, I just wasn't sure where to go. The button is very handy and luckily there are instructions to help you file the report. Hopefully someone will get round to looking at it soon. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 15:52, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


Haha bless, is it Master 133 that's stalking you on another website?

Whoever it is I don't see why they want the sentence about Laurie Brett staying at EastEnders for another year to be removed. She's definitely staying so no reason why it should be removed. Strange! --5 albert square (talk) 23:31, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Master133 is a nightmare. Sends me messages through saying "Hi there remove the part that says laurie brett signed up for another year" or similar. I have asked why several times and the only reason I've been given is "I gave you the information". They even asked me to completely remove reference 3 from the article. I explained that I will not remove facts from the article, that anyone could have found the information, and that it does not mean she will leave EastEnders. I asked for a reason but all I got was "Hi there remove the part that says laurie brett signed up for another year." So I sent a polite message asking not to ask me any more as I am not going to remove facts from the page, and he said he will not stop until I remove it. So I said I'll just delete every message he sends without reading it. Almost immediately after that, he removed it himself. anemoneprojectors talk 23:39, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Can't you block him from sending you messages? --5 albert square (talk) 01:04, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't think has that facility, but I need to double check. The site runs slow on my laptop, freezing my browser until it loads fully, so I lose patience. anemoneprojectors talk 01:07, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Hmmmmm I don't know well enough, if there's admins on it maybe you can ask for him to be blocked from messaging you if you can't do it yourself? I did wonder if it was him making that edit yesterday --5 albert square (talk) 01:29, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
If I go to his profile, the only settings are to "add as friend", "leave a shout" or "send a message". I have asked my friends on Twitter. anemoneprojectors talk 01:47, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I found the ignore list :) anemoneprojectors talk 01:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Heehee bet you're glad! I've just noticed that you've no sooner got rid of one banned user than another one, in other words Lorna Fitzgerald's "stalker", visits your talk page lol. --5 albert square (talk) 20:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Indeed. By the way, Trueman31 has now given up copying my userpage to his userspace and has started copying yours. For a moment, I thought you'd changed your username. anemoneprojectors talk 20:49, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Oooohhhh no I will never change from 5 Albert Square, it's what I'm known by on most if not all EastEnders forums. Thanks for telling me, I'll tell all the other watchers of my user and talk page to watch out. By the way do you reckon it's worthwhile locking Talk: Laurie Brett even just temporarily to try and stop Master133 posting? I've again posted a notice warning him to stop but I doubt it'll make any difference --5 albert square (talk) 20:59, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

(undent) I semi-protected the page while you were making the last revert to the page, did it for a month. I didn't think you would have changed, especially to a username that was misspelt! But it was confusing. It's unlikely that anyone will come across the page and think it's you, and they still copied my talk page. In fact, it was an old version of my page so I'm sure they've got it saved on their computer in a text file or something, along with a number of other pages such as Dot Branning, as they always revert to the same version. You'd think after three years, they'd have given up. Whenever I see that a user page has been copied elsewhere, I'll know it's Trueman31, so I'll delete the page and block the user. anemoneprojectors talk 21:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Ah that's ok. Do you reckon though that it's worth locking the talk page of Laurie Brett in case the user starts posting there again? --5 albert square (talk) 21:49, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
No because we shouldn't preemptively protect pages. anemoneprojectors talk 21:51, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
You've got to love him haven't you? Firstly he says ok to my explanation about bans and then he asks another question about images of Laurie Brett! --5 albert square (talk) 21:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Not really, no! I blocked the IP for block evasion. Will continue to do so in future. anemoneprojectors talk 22:08, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I just laughed when I saw it. It was the fact he said ok which leads me to believe he knows that he's comitting sockpuppetry and then blatantly ignored me! Just goes to show he's not learnt anything, feel kinda sorry for him really --5 albert square (talk) 22:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I didn't even realise at first that that was from today, I thought he only asked one thing and removed it, then asked about adding images. Didn't realise you'd been replying :) anemoneprojectors talk 22:42, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Ha, no, he asked again for interviews to be added to Jane Beales page on Laurie Brett's talk page. I went on to Digital Spy but didn't see anything, and if there was anything, they'd have it. So I replied to his question and at the same time told him off for evading his block. By the way do you watch The Bill? It got axed today, an awful lot of upset Bill fans on forums just now and the page on Wikipedia was being edited like crazy when it was first announced --5 albert square (talk) 22:56, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

(undent) Yeah I checked, and if there were interviews, they'd either be mentioned in the article or on the talk page, unless there was nothing worth mentioning. I don't watch The Bill (the proramme or the article!), but I saw it metioned on your talk page. anemoneprojectors talk 22:59, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Haha, I just went through all the edits made today to Talk:Laurie Brett. Now, that was funny. And what's with the funny way he talks? anemoneprojectors talk 23:05, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I really don't know, the way he edits is just weird sometimes, it's like it's constant test edits but from him they're deliberate if you know what I mean? i mean take today for instance, I was in the middle of typing a reply to say I couldn't find any new interviews for Jane etc but when I got to the end of my long post it was rejected because of an edit conflict. Copied what I'd typed so I didn't have to do everything again, when I went to view the page history in the time it'd taken me to write my post he'd posted twice again asking the same question! I mean for gods sakes, if you're going to ask a question at least give us 30 seconds to reply before you ask again! It's a wonder SineBot doesn't go giddy trying to follow him around all the time signing his posts :) --5 albert square (talk) 23:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Maybe he's... unwell. anemoneprojectors talk 23:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
Could well be --5 albert square (talk) 23:49, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Leona Lewis

Just wondered what your take on all the Leona Lewis leaks was and should these be mentioned with the stolen demos? Lil-unique1 (talk) 03:08, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

They already are mentioned. And my take is that... this isn't a forum :) anemoneprojectors talk 10:01, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. I added a bit of information that's factual and sourced relating to police involvment. I added the statement about them being from all recording sessions but i think i'm gonna remove it because we dont have a source for it. A shame cus i've seen the list of songs and it includes demo versions of "Naked", "Alive" and "Love Letter" as well as the unreleased "Save Myself".Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:09, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Have you not downloaded them? "You Don't Care" is amazing, has a Beatles sound to it. Also the studio recording of Whole Lotta Love is excellent! Some of the songs sound like Twilight songs - they're not, but they have that feel to them - and "I Will Be" is one of the songs and that's definitely from Spirit. (Yes I know I said it's not a forum lol) I removed the 26 songs thing because the source said 26 Alexandra songs but there were 26 Leona songs... anemoneprojectors talk 19:21, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
yeah the source got them in the wrong order... its 26 leona songs and 14 alexandra songs. :) i love "scene of the crime". I'm told that its a timbaland production. I'm absolutely disgraced that its not included on the album. Likewise why was "You dont Care" not included on all versions of the album? I like the demo/raw version of the leaked version of "Love Letter" better than the album one. Oh well... i'm looking forward to seeing leona on the opening night of her tour :D Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:30, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I thought more Alexandra songs leaked than Leona ones. Someone had about 80 songs leak though, didn't they? I need to listen to SotC again because everyone was raving about it on Twitter but it didn't seem that special to me when I put it on. Apparently some songs had the wrong feel for the rest of the album but they should have just given it a different feel! Wish I was seeing her live. anemoneprojectors talk 19:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure. The download link for alexandra i saw had 14 songs but then apparently some leaked before than i'm not sure i never saw them. The leona link defo said 26 songs. cus i liked only 12 of them. Why didnt you go for tickets? :P Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:40, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Because it's wrong to go to a concert on one's own. anemoneprojectors talk 19:41, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah of course that's a fair point. you should have mentioned it. you could have come with me and my friend to the opening night in Sheffield.! Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:28, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Sheffield is way too far! London is my closest venue. And then there's the cost. Not just the ticket but the train to get there. anemoneprojectors talk 21:30, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Aye i know what you mean. She's managed to sell out quite a few of her dates. Am i allowed to state this on her tour page using a newspaper (physical copy) as a source? don't worry i'll give you a review about it. :) Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
I don't see why you shouldn't be able to do that. You'll probably be the first person I know to be seeing her in concert, so you can be the first to let me know about it too. Lots of my Twitter contacts were at the Hackney Empire gig last year, I was almost able to go to that. I didn't even get to meet Leona at Waterstone's because her attacker was about 10-15 places in front of me. anemoneprojectors talk 22:00, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Sugababes & Girls Aloud Navbox

I have removed all Sugababes singles navbox from all pages, so it can be deleted now. I will also do it for Girls Aloud now. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SitDownOnIt (talkcontribs) 20:12, 30 March 2010

Oh, I was doing it with AWB. It's automatic so saves the trouble of having to load each page, press edit etc. anemoneprojectors talk 19:15, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thankyou.x --SitDownOnIt (talk) 19:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

All done! I think you were quicker than AWB! But we did about half each :) anemoneprojectors talk 19:28, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah! We work as a pretty good team! :D. Speak soon. x --SitDownOnIt (talk) 19:33, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Billboard Charts

There is an interesting debate and discussion taking place at Record Charts/Talkpage/Billboard Chart Names which you might be interested in as a regular music article editor. Lil-unique1 (talk) 01:05, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

The Bill

Hi Anemone

Can I just check something with you please?

With the article List of The Bill characters people have been changing this recently so the 'last appearance' date reads 2010. Now I know that the programme is ending this year, so all the characters final appearances will be in 2010, however as that is not due to happen until around autumn time, I've been reverting the edits so that the 'last appearance' still reads 'current'. As far as I'm aware it is March 2010 so it should read current and should not change until the programme has finished? Am I right or have I completely misunderstood this?

Also, I just noticed your comment on the Dot Branning talk page asking if you can complain about the GA assessment. I thought I'd let you know, I don't know if you can complain about the assessment but you can seek for it to be reassessed if you think that the reviewer was wrong. I must admit I think they were very wrong not to put this article on hold for a couple of days or weeks --5 albert square (talk) 22:18, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what normally happens on Wikipedia when a long-running serial drama announces its ending. If it was something like Lost, for example, you wouldn't even say the character was appearing in the last season until it was announced, and if that was to be the last season, it would already have the season number the character appeared in. But since UK serial dramas don't have seasons or series, then it's a bit more complicated. But personally, I think you should say current, and add in the lead section that the show is ending in 2010. You never know, they might make some sort of spin-off and use the same characters, so even 2010 might be wrong!
As for Dot, I am aware that you can as for a reassessment if you think it was wrong, but in this case the reviewer was right, they just didn't put it on hold, which is why I didn't ask for a reassessment. I'd mention it at Talk:Dot Branning with the GA discussion and see what others think. anemoneprojectors talk 22:36, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for that Anemone, I had a funny feeling that's what you'd say :)
As for Dot, I've posted on the talk page what people's options are. It should pass this time around though if it's nominated again :) --5 albert square (talk) 23:00, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

New Billboard chart policy

As per consensus at WP:record charts there is a new guide to using Billboard Charts available at Billboard charts guide. Mainstream Top 40 (Pop Songs) (formerly known just as Pop Songs) is no longer deemed a component chart - there is no evidence to support this motion. Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I rarely get involved with Billboard charts, which is why I didn't comment before. I can't find the Billboard charts guide you linked above, though. anemoneprojectors talk 20:03, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Lauren Branning

I don't know, you go to visit your dad to celebrate becoming an adult, you hope to have a quiet drink with your dad, perhaps your sister too then head off home for a quiet family meal.

Instead, you get treated to a party at the local nightclub, someone bursts in with a gun to shoot your cousin, ends up shooting your uncle, your uncle is whisked off to A&E where relatives are told he may be brain damaged and the metropolitan police and the armed police turn up to your party to interview you.

Poor Lauren!

I did wonder if my edit would get taken out of her article, I put it in because I think she did see everything happen before fleeing to hide in the ladies --5 albert square (talk) 23:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Poor Lauren indeed. But really the storyline only affected Jack, Billie and Kylie so far in any major way. She might have seen it, but so did Roxy, Ronnie, Abi, Janine, Ryan, Danny, Max, Whitney, Bianca, Ricky, Chelsea, Libby, Darren, Adam, and so on. :) I didn't quite catch the whole thing with Adam though, where did they find him in the end? anemoneprojectors talk 23:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I also didn't get the Adam thing, he said that he dragged himself somewhere but I don't remember it being said where he dragged himself too!
I wish Roxy would see Danny for what he is, looks like he's trying to fleece her out of her money and/or the pub --5 albert square (talk) 23:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
She doesn't deserve all that money. Peggy should have contested the will, she was Archie's wife. I want Peggy to get the pub back, but she's leaving so, who knows?! anemoneprojectors talk 23:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Barbara Windsor wants to return, maybe Peggy will get the pub back if that happens? I hope Ross Kemp returns for Bab's final storyline :) --5 albert square (talk) 00:02, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't, he's a terrible actor! If she returns, well, maybe we'll be used to Kat and Alfie owning the Vic by then and not want Peggy to get it back ;) anemoneprojectors talk 00:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Speaking of returnees, do we know if Dotty or rather Kirsty returns? I'm hoping not --5 albert square (talk) 01:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
She probably only visits Dot at weekends. anemoneprojectors talk 01:16, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Re:Template:Infobox EastEnders character 2

In case you didn't notice, the result of the debate was keep. anemoneprojectors talk 15:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

The closing administrator also said "See below." -- referring to "Please, consider merging with Infobox EastEnders character 2 and creating one unified template (Infobox soap character 2)." -- his closing comment on Template:Infobox Neighbours character. It's clearly desired. Alex Douglas (talk) 15:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh, he didn't make that very clear, as I didn't read the result of the Neighbours template. I was already prepared to update every article using WP:AWB if the result had clearly said merge. anemoneprojectors talk 15:50, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, his comments took a moment to understand. You're cool with me updating the EastEnders characters to the new template then? Alex Douglas (talk) 15:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah and I'm loading AWB as we speak :) 218 pages, shouldn't take too long! anemoneprojectors talk 15:55, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
So you're going to take it from here? Alex Douglas (talk) 15:57, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, I don't know what your method was but AWB might be quicker (when my connection is good). I can do all the Neighbours ones and all the lists too, in one go. anemoneprojectors talk 15:58, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
That would be awesome. My method was alright: using Linky lists, then, FoxReplace. A lot of stuffing around though. Good luck. Thanks mate. :) Alex Douglas (talk) 16:01, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Sounds complicated :) anemoneprojectors talk 16:02, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
It was. Anyway, I'm going to bed now. You have fun. Thanks again. Alex Douglas (talk) 16:04, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Hope you don't mind, I was stalking your edits. I've just been to see the new template and it looks good, except I don't think the 'cause for leaving' needs to be included, as that kind of info should be in the main article. Are you sure about changing all the Neighbours ones over too? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 16:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

(undent) Hi JG, I put the cause for leaving bit in because it was used in the Neighbours template. It can easily be taken out, though. I didn't transfer the "age" parameter because that shouldn't really be used at all, as it only represents 1 year of that particular character and not the whole time they were in the show. The result of the EastEnders and Neighbours templates were the same... umm, what exactly do you mean by "are you sure about..."? anemoneprojectors talk 16:35, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I just meant are you okay changing the Neighbours infoboxes over as well as the EastEnders ones, but I assume AWB makes it easier to do? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 16:48, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah, no problems with that (all I have to do is press Save!). I want to do Hollyoaks too, since they have their own infobox based on how the EastEnders one used to look. anemoneprojectors talk 16:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Not sure if you've seen it yet, but I just found this story about Lucy. I don't know if it'll come in handy at some point. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 17:43, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I hadn't seen it yet. I don't think it'll come in handy as it only really describes plot, but thanks for sharing, it's quite shocking. anemoneprojectors talk 17:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to put this here, hope you don't mind. As you may remember I filed a Sock puppetry report a few days ago and I've just seen that the evidence I presented comes from the talk page of Paloma Faith Tour, which is due to be deleted tomorrow. There appears to be a bit of a back log on the report page, so I'm a little worried that the evidence will be deleted before someone gets round to looking at the case. You don't happen to know any of the editors that usually look at and review the cases do you? I might be able to get them to have a look at it. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 00:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't, sorry, but administrators can view deleted edits, so hopefully won't be a problem. anemoneprojectors talk 00:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. Was just a bit worried that by the time someone looks at the report all the evidence would be gone. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 00:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)


If you want to help merging any of the missing links, see Template talk:Weather, thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:00, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


Hi Anemone

I just got asked this question on my talk page. As I'm not admin I don't know the answer, although I suspect this is not possible. Do you know the answer to this:

I am the user who edited Numb3rs form the IP address I am administrator at Macedonian Wikipedia. My user name is Wikimk. On EN.Wikipedia it looks that some one has already opened an account using Wikimk as user name (here: [3]), so I cannot use it to edit. Since that person does not have any edits (the account was opened on 10 May 2007) I would like to ask you for an assistance in order for me to able to edit here using my current user name. Is it possible to delete that account? Or maybe there is other solution to this?! Thank you for the answer."

--5 albert square (talk) 21:46, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I knew guessed you wouldn't know, so I'm finding out already. I'm going to reply on mk.wikipedia. anemoneprojectors talk 21:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Anemone! --5 albert square (talk) 21:52, 4 April 2010 (UTC)


Maybe I shoould be sleeping at 4.30am, but then I was on a night shift. Anyways Anemone, you ALWAYS manage to leave your stamp on the EE articles and correct any errors, so i guess I can sleep easy :-) Bleaney (talk) 18:28, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Of course everyone makes mistakes and are entitled to. But it seemed like you made a lot and I just put it down to the time of night. Shouldn't you have been working instead? :) anemoneprojectors talk 19:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
You dont know what my job is though, do you? There were only 3 mistakes in what is quite a fiddly exercise. I think i'll be alright ;-) Bleaney (talk) 19:21, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Nope, why would I know that? anemoneprojectors talk 19:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
You wouldn't, so perhaps its best not to speculate? Bleaney (talk) 19:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I wasn't speculating, I was joking. anemoneprojectors talk 20:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't mean to be tetchy ;-) One thing though, i'm really annoyed that I cant find Jan Hammond's start date on EE. Walfordweb dont have it either, so she's stuck at the top of the 1986 list. Any ideas? Bleaney (talk) 00:53, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
No problem, I didn't mean to be either :) I have no idea about Jan Hammond. I was the one who put her there when we changed the pages from "list of minor characters" to "list of characters". Didn't know where else to put here. There are some other lists that are in the wrong order, especially when characters appeared on the same date, though that's less important. The first episode is in the right order though, apart from the pets... anemoneprojectors talk 00:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm assuming that if characters first appear on the same day, they are listed when they were seen first in the episode? It is annoying though that Jan Hammond has no date at all, do any other characters lack a specific start date?Bleaney (talk) 01:09, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah we try to order them by the order they first appeared in the episode, for example, Zsa Zsa, Fatboy and Leon were all introduced in the same episode, in the order they are listed. It'll be families that are mostly the problem - Slaters, etc. I think Robbie Jackson was one I was unsure of too. I can't remember if any others lacked a start date. Does Winston have one? anemoneprojectors talk 01:30, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Trueman 31

So I see he's been doing his rounds again! Who's userpage did he copy this time, mine or yours?

By the way, I'm applying to be checkuser/oversight. Noticed the ad on Wikipedia earlier and got the email through earlier. Just reading through the questions tonight, probably answer them tonight or tomorrow and email the answers back to Wikipedia. It's got to be in by the 12th so at least I've got time to do it. --5 albert square (talk) 17:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh good luck. I wouldn't mind those things either. He copied my user page, but the talk page was strange and unformatted, I think he might have copied the text instead of the Wiki code. I cleverly added things to my user page so that when they're pasted to another person's page, it marks the page for speedy deletion, but of course once that happens he just blanks the page so it's not brought to admin attention. I did the same thing on the talk page but he never copies that part, he knows where it is. I can't do the same thing on my talk page than on my user page, unfortunately. anemoneprojectors talk 17:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Sounds like a good thing to have on your userpage :)
Yeah it would be a good tool to have, I've a feeling I'll be using Lorna Fitzgerald and Abi Branning as some of the examples of sockpuppet activity (Ln of x in other words) that I've come across and reported --5 albert square (talk) 18:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
I think I'm going to apply. I normally ignore the notices at the top of the page but you have brought it to my attention :) anemoneprojectors talk 18:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Good luck! --5 albert square (talk) 18:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! anemoneprojectors talk 19:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Having now seen the questions, I don't think I'm going to apply. anemoneprojectors talk 21:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Pretty Baby....

Hi, I have decided to review this article. I was wondering if you could allow me to create the review page at Talk:Pretty Baby..../GA1, it appears to be restricted at the moment. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I can't see any reason why you wouldn't be able to create it. It all looks normal to me. What happens when you try to create it? anemoneprojectors talk 19:55, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
A pink box appears saying 'The page title or edit you have tried to create has been restricted to administrators at this time. It matches an entry on the local or global blacklists, which is usually used to prevent vandalism.' It then says to contact an admin to ask them to create or move the page. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 20:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Never heard of that one before! I logged out to see if I could get the same message and I did. I looked at the blacklist and I think it might be because it contains "excessive puntuation"! I'll create it for you! anemoneprojectors talk 20:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Right, I've done it. Just remove the nowiki tags. I put them in so my name wasn't signed, but the preloaded page would still be there for you. anemoneprojectors talk 20:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! That was weird, I thought I'd clicked on the wrong link or something. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 20:12, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it means that if I wasn't an admin, I wouldn't have been able to create the article in the first place! anemoneprojectors talk 20:37, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I've added some things to be fixed. I've also asked another editor to have a look over the article in case I've missed something, as this is only my second GA review. Luckily, I seem to have picked the easy ones so far. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 21:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks :) anemoneprojectors talk 22:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I've passed the article, well done. That's some good work there. :) - JuneGloom07 Talk? 23:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


Hi Anemone

Just to let you know that I've had previous problems with this editor who's currently doing their rounds adding in great great great grandfathers (or whatever they are - didn't count the greats!) to the Branning family pages. I had problems with him on the Oliver Barnes page, in the case of Oliver Barnes he kept removing information from the infobox and not stating why it was removed. The general consensus amongst editors was that the information should stay but whenever his reverts were reverted he simply re-added them? I ended up going to WP:RFPP to request page protection and one of the admins (I think it was GedUK) had to speak to him, warn him about his edits.

I thought I'd heard the last of him until I went to Danny Mitchell's page the other day and saw that he'd added in unnecessary info there too. I know he phoned Glenda the other day but is there really any need to quote her word for word when she's just telling him he's doing a good job by getting his feet under the table at the Vic?!

Just thought I'd give you a heads up :) --5 albert square (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, as you can see from WT:EE, the Branning edits were well anticipated! anemoneprojectors talk 19:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
That's ok, I can't really understand why people would want to go back that far to be quite honest. there's even less point if the person isn't going to make an appearance. Besides you've got to draw the line somewhere or some character infoboxes would be longer than the characters page! --5 albert square (talk) 20:09, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, it's unlikely that many characters will talk about their ancestry like that. I had hoped Carol would mention the name of the Branning between James and Jim! I didn't catch the entire thing so I'm going to watch it again at 10... but he was married in 1897 so is definitely dead by now (as you would expect Jim's grandfather to be!). Maybe they'll do a flashback episode! anemoneprojectors talk 20:12, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Lol, I didn't get Carol in tonights episode. She came across as so ungrateful in the Vic! I think she forgets that a few days ago her son held the pub up in an armed raid. Now although the Vic ain't exactly best mates with the Met they could still have called the police, but they didn't. Instead they let Billie pay back the money, forgive him, let him back into the pub and even help him try to join the army! Then along comes Carol, insults the ex-landlady, throws everything back in the pubs face and manages to make a show of herself in front of half of Walford. Dear me! --5 albert square (talk) 22:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I know. So I saved all the details of James William Branning's life, wondering what to do with them now! anemoneprojectors talk 22:56, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't suppose that there is much that you can do with them other than add them to the Branning family tree which you've already done lol. You could hang on to them though just in case he pops up in a flashback episode! --5 albert square (talk) 23:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

James William Branning was born on 12 December 1876. He married on 2 January 1897 at the age of 20 as his girlfriend at the time was pregnant with his child. James joined the Royal West Surrey regiment two months after marrying and his first tour of duty was in Afghanistan. Private James Branning died from wounds received, aged 20, never knowing his son. :) anemoneprojectors talk 23:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)


Take a look at the deleted history of User talk:Mars Attacks 1987 and User:Mars Attacks 1987. Don't know exactly what they're up to, but I told them to stop after deleting the pages. Syrthiss (talk) 12:43, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I have blocked the user as a sockpuppet of User:Trueman31. Copying my user pages is one of the things he likes to do. anemoneprojectors talk 12:48, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Fun fun. Syrthiss (talk) 12:49, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
If you were to directly copy the entire contents of my user page or user talk page to your userspace, both would come up with speedy deletion notices, because of some stuff I added in subpages. If you ever see my user page copied somewhere else, please block :) Maybe I should take it as a compliment - he wants to be me! anemoneprojectors talk 12:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, that wasn't the case here from what I saw. The talkpage was verbatim to this, and the userpage was garbled (but no speedy notice). Syrthiss (talk) 12:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, he doesn't copy the entire contents of either page anymore, but if you look at the deleted history of his userpage, you'll see speedy deletion notices in the preview. He blanks the page as soon as he realises. anemoneprojectors talk 13:02, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
OIC. He's also been reblocked with talkpage access revoked now after re-doing the talkpage copy. Syrthiss (talk) 13:06, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I guess I should have done that when I blocked him in the first place. anemoneprojectors talk 13:15, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


Hello; the wikipedia page of my organization, Transeuropéennes, has been deleted by you? Why? It was not abour promoting our association, I just used the same information you can find on our website ( Besides, the French version of this article is still available, only the English has been deleted. How can I manage to put it again online? Thank you,

A-T Khatchadourian —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:22, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

It was tagged as being promotion for a company. See Wikipedia:Spam. anemoneprojectors talk 16:20, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


Hi AnemoneProjectors! Do you know if/or there is any information on the Sugababes going on tour with Sweet 7 album? Or if they are working on an 8th album?--SitDownOnIt (talk) 23:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

No idea, I don't really follow them. anemoneprojectors talk 23:41, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok. How about Diana Vicker's single Once? She is singing it on GMTV this week. Should that have a page?--SitDownOnIt (talk) 23:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Not until it's entered a national music chart. See WP:NSONG for more information. anemoneprojectors talk 23:56, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Do you think Sugababes should have a Portal? Girls Aloud have one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SitDownOnIt (talkcontribs)

Maybe, I don't know. You could ask on Talk:Sugababes to see what the people there think. Also, you forgot to sign your post. anemoneprojectors talk 19:07, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Not sure about that..

Depends on whether one punctuates correctly... – ukexpat (talk) 01:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

One always punctuates correctly. Just look at United Kingdom. anemoneprojectors talk 10:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Quick question

Hi there, I'm trying to find the Template messages for articles relating to the future (i.e. expect information to change etc). Do you know it? Bleaney (talk) 22:23, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I think all the future event templates were deleted. See WP:DFUTURE. anemoneprojectors talk 22:36, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Deprivation poster.jpg


Thanks for uploading File:Deprivation poster.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 23:02, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, you orphaned it. But I agree with it's removal under WP:NFCC#8. anemoneprojectors talk 23:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Apologies AP, I was writing a personal note below but I got an edit conflict with you - I'll copy in my comment to you anyway. Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 23:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Apologies about the templated warning, but I guess it does explain it better than I could. My concern is that File:Deprivation poster.jpg doesn't really add anything into the Stacey Slater article. There's a little discussion about the board game, but the image is copyrighted and there's not a lot of discussion in the article - it doesn't deprive the reader of anything by not having the board game image in the article. Pop over to my talk page if you have any concerns about what I've said. Kind regards, Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 23:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
That's ok. The poster (that's what it is) is mentioned in that section, but the image isn't necessary to increase understanding. Plus it looked horrible. I was considering orphaning it myself actually. anemoneprojectors talk 23:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)


Hi, I have quick question. If a Sockpuppet investigation is still waiting to be looked at, can new/more evidence still be added? I came across this discussion and three of the editors lending their support are mentioned in a SP case I filed back in March. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 21:14, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm no expert on SPI but I don't see why not. Glad you've told me three of them are suspected sockpuppets, since it's a discussion I'm involved in. anemoneprojectors talk 21:29, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I'm sure someone will tell me if you can't when the case gets looked at. Shoot, I have just seen that I haven't informed the suspected Sock, I knew I'd get something wrong. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 21:46, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Did you inform the suspected puppeteer? anemoneprojectors talk 21:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Sock puppeteer is what I meant to say, do I need to inform the suspected socks as well? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 21:57, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Probably... anemoneprojectors talk 22:08, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I'll go inform them now. Btw, I was just reading on the DS forums that 6 EE characters have been axed. Apparently The Sun newspaper has the story on their front page, but I don't think there is an online source yet. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 22:16, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Why do new execs always axe loads of characters? I'm assuming it's the 6 that someone put on the characters list. Well, it's about time Charlie was axed. Surprised about Danny. anemoneprojectors talk 22:39, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Yep, those are the six that were added to the list. I was a bit surprised about Charlie, especially as Kat and Alfie are returning. I like Derek Martin, he was very nice when I met him last year. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 22:46, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

(undent) Well yes, it doesn't make sense to have him leave when Kat's returning, but they might return for a funeral... I've not seen any mention of Lucas and Jordan. Oh and you don't have to wikilink actors on my talk page, I know who they are :) anemoneprojectors talk 22:49, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, we have our online sources. And I've updated all the articles! anemoneprojectors talk 23:34, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
I've just seen. It's a shame that Danny and Charlie are going, but I can understand the rest. Minty hasn't been the same since Gary went. I suppose we can expect news of some characters at some point then. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 00:05, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Not a shame Danny is going. He won't be able to stay at the end of his storyline, but he's too new for me to care. I can't really understand Libby, but if she hadn't gone to Oxford maybe she'd not have been axed. I assumed Liz wasn't on a contract as she's only in it for very short periods of time. I agree that it's time for Minty to go, and Adam won't be missed. But Charlie... I've always says Charlie should be axed because he never gets storylines, but now they've done it, I don't want him to go! I'm guessing there are plans for characters like Billy and Darren... anemoneprojectors talk 00:20, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
It's a shame for me, Liam Bergin is nice to look at. ;) I am quite surprised that Darren is staying, but like you said, there must be plans for him. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 00:27, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Nice to look at? lol not. anemoneprojectors talk 00:32, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Liam Bergin has nice hair that's why I like him. Anyway, have you seen that {{infobox soap character 2}} template is up for deletion? - JuneGloom07 Talk? 22:50, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes I've already commented and have notified WP:EE. anemoneprojectors talk 22:52, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Top 10 singles

Hi mate, I wanted to get your opinion on an issue to do with the top 10 singles articles. Do you think that the "Entries by artist" table should only include singles that peaked in that year or should it also include songs that remained in the top 10 for a couple of weeks into that year but peaked in the previous year? My reason for asking is that I have just finished the 2005 list and have included members of Band Aid 20 in the figures for multiple number-ones, even though the song did not peak that year? Any thoughts appreciated. Cheers. 03md 10:49, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, I think if a single was in the top ten in 2005, even if it peaked in 2004, it should be included, so I think the same should apply to the entries by artist tables. anemoneprojectors talk 10:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your response. How does the 2005 page look to you at the moment? 03md 16:35, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
I think it looks good. I'm assuming the yellow highlight means it was a number one. I'm not sure it's necessary to do that. Also, I think it would be helpful to make the table sortable. This would mean removing the headings "Singles from 2004" and "Singles from 2005" and adding the year to all the dates. What do you think? anemoneprojectors talk 16:59, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Filton and Bradley Stoke

Hi, I reverted your edit. The candidate changed his mind and is standing in Filton and Bradley Stoke, which covers Staple Hill where he lives. Please check the reference, which is the official notice of poll.[4] –– Jezhotwells (talk) 21:14, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough. The sources on No Candidate Deserves My Vote! say Bristol South and that his name is Zero None Of The Above not Vote Zero-None-Of-The-Above so feel free to revert me there but that pdf should be added as a source there too. anemoneprojectors talk 21:17, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Laura White

Hi may I have your help then because I have explained the reasons why the page has a right to stay and no one is answering me back and just deleting it and they are not getting warned either. I am doing the right thing and getting the blame in a sense. -- Mister Mystery (talk) 12:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC).

I have replied on the talk page. anemoneprojectors talk 12:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Songs from The Tainted Cherry Tree

Hi AnemoneProjectors. This article appears that it may be a re-post of Songs from the Tainted Cherry Tree, which you deleted on February 27 per CSD G4. I feel an urge to speedy-tag it accordingly, but I'm unable to locate the AfD in question. Perhaps you'd like to take a look. Thank you. -- WikHead (talk) 01:19, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, the AFD is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Songs From The Tainted Cherry Tree, I guess I typed it wrong when I first deleted other page. I have gone ahead and performed the speedy deletion. The article is currently being incubated. AnemoneProjectors 01:22, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Ah yes, it looks like I've just learned a lesson in applying all possible text-case variations until I've finally cracked the right combination. Thank you kindly for your speedy response. Regards -- WikHead (talk) 01:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
And let me add my thanks for performing the history merge, which I seem to have overlooked, not that I would have known a whole lot about it. I don't have much experience with this sort of thing and I'm happy to see that someone who really knows how to do it has taken a hand. When there are two different versions under different capitalizations, I am out of my depth. Thanks again. If you have any questions or problems I am at your service. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:05, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
No problem. I'm always willing to merge histories when I see one needs doing :) AnemoneProjectors 21:10, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
I've responded at greater length on my own talk page, but you are correct that I went a little too fast and single-handed with restoring the article; if there is something you would like me to do about it, I am at your service. (I am so rarely bold that I've quite surprised myself here.) Thanks again for your help. Accounting4Taste:talk 21:15, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


Looks like you're having fun- I just pulled up the recent changes and saw you protecting all the Eastenders characters! What's going on? I saw something crop up on Minty's article earlier but someone beat me to it! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:35, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh I just blocked six sockpuppets of the same user and protected some of the articles he's been targetting for the past week or so. AnemoneProjectors 16:37, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh dear. Some people evidently have nothing better to do. If my RfA passes, I'll lend you a hand if he returns (those types usually do)! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:52, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh he'll return, he's been at it for years. Though JuneGloom is going to go to ANI to see if anyone can do anything else like contact his ISP. I have a feeling he watches my twitter and waits until I announce that I'm going out! The last couple of times he's created new accounts it's been when I was out. AnemoneProjectors 17:01, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
That's insane. I just stumbled across a nutter of my own who managed to recreate the same page 8 times with at least 2 accounts before it was salted! Some people, eh? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:13, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
ANI thread created. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 17:29, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes I noticed that Trueman31 dropped by Wikipedia before! It would be good if we could get them permanently blocked. The same goes for the editor that seems to stalk Lorna Fitzgerald and Abi Branning and the one that is fascinated by Laurie Brett (though in fairness I don't think that Laurie's has been around in a while). By the way Anemone, did you see that BBC 3 special last night on Christian and Syed? That looked a good spoiler at the end, but I sure wouldn't want to be in Christian's shoes for the next wee while :( --5 albert square (talk) 23:06, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, it seems likely that Trueman31 and Ln of x are actually the same person, so we could be killing two stones with one bird. Or maybe it's the other way around... Laurie's stalker has been very quiet, and only uses IPs. I did see some of it, I recommended it for WP:EE members to help with articles. I'm currently having lots of problems with my satellite dish so I didn't get to see it all. But I do know what's going to happen to Christian, have known that for ages. I haven't seen tonight's yet, need to get on iPlayer. AnemoneProjectors 23:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Really? I honestly never thought that they could be the same person. That's good going whoever found that out. Yes, Christian looks interesting over the next few weeks, I've seen the pictures, he looks like he gets a severe beating from Qadim's thugs. Speaking of Christian, I was quite surprised at Roxy tonight, she hasn't spoken up for her friend in quite a while! --5 albert square (talk) 23:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, the last SPI showed that a sock tagged by me as Ln of x because of Lorna/Abi edits was also Trueman31. But since both follow different patterns of editing, I'm treating them separately. AnemoneProjectors 23:39, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh, actually it was an Ln of x SPI and a user called Trueman31 [something something] was discovered to be Ln of x. AnemoneProjectors 23:45, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

(undent) Ah ok, still very strange about the similar names! By the way you might want to keep an eye on John Partridge tonight. There's been what looks like a couple of test edits to it tonight, plus someone added before that he was marrying his partner but it was unreferenced --5 albert square (talk) 23:59, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm well behind on my watchlist tonight, but I'll get there soon. Am watching EastEnders on iPlayer right now! AnemoneProjectors 00:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Well it might just be me, but normally his page doesn't get vandalism, now it seems to have had about 3 test edits in one night! --5 albert square (talk) 00:20, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Well, let's just keep an eye on it then. Maybe he did say he wanted to marry his partner. Roxy was great tonight! AnemoneProjectors 00:39, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Haha check out this Christian and Syed fanpage. I couldn't help but laugh at the name! --5 albert square (talk) 21:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
I'm glad he didn't say that. AnemoneProjectors 21:10, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
I've just seen the news about Stacey and Jean, I take it you're not happy either? Btw, the ANI thread got archived as no one replied (there were a few things happening yesterday), so I'll try and raise it again tomorrow. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 23:19, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
See my recent tweets! It got archived already? I checked a few times and saw no reply, was thinking of posting to make sure it wouldn't be archived but I didn't think it would have been that quick! AnemoneProjectors 23:24, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Tbh, I'm kinda glad Jean is going. She gets on my nerves at times. Stacey is a blow though, didn't really see it coming so soon. The bot is set to archive a thread that hasn't had a reply after 24 hours. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 23:33, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
24 hours sucks. Revert the archive :P AnemoneProjectors 23:40, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Not sure I'm allowed to do that. Lol. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 00:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

(undent) Well, you shouldn't have to repost it! But unfortunately you will. AnemoneProjectors 00:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

I just want to thank you for this copy edit TbhotchTalk C. 16:30, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

No need to thank me, just pay it forward. AnemoneProjectors 16:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Discography query

Hi AP, I know you work on quite a few music-related articles so I hope you don't mind me asking a question (I'll ask at MOSDISCOG if you don't know, but I didn't want to do that first in case it's a really stupid question with an obvious answer I'm just completely missing...) When there's a discography page for a group, should that info be replicated across all the group members' articles, or should there just be a link to the group discog? To be specific, because it's the only one I've worked on - is it okay for relevant info from Glee Cast discography to be duplicated in the actors' articles, or should they just point to the main discog page? Cheers! And sorry if this question is as stupid as it sounds in my head. Frickative 13:46, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, umm, well you could ask there, but I just picked a member of a band at random and it's treated the same as a discography section in a band or soloists page (Kimberley Walsh#Discography was the page I picked), with just the list of albums basically, so you could do that for all the Glee Cast members, but it would only contain links to the soundtracks, and they're all listed on one page so I would list the titles of the sountracks and provide main links to both Glee Cast discography and Music of Glee. Hope that helps! AnemoneProjectors 13:53, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
I just looked at Lea Michele to see what was there. I think because they're Glee Cast singles and albums, not Lea Michele singles, even if she's the only performer, it's probably still best to do what I suggested. However, it might still be a good idea to ask MOSDISCOG! AnemoneProjectors 13:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! That was very helpful :D I hadn't really noticed before because I hardly ever edit the cast members' articles, but given that they release about 500 singles a week they're all turning into massive laundry lists of duplicated and constantly outdated singles chart information, so just listing the soundtrack titles and links to the main pages does seem the sensible solution. Thanks again :) Frickative 15:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes they do release way too many singles! Well, no they don't cos they're all great. I had some spare money in my very tight budget this week so bought volume 2 and The Power of Madonna last night. Gotta work my way through the non-album singles next :) AnemoneProjectors 16:08, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


I don't really edit Eastenders articles that much, I'm working my way through adding reception info for Neighbours, Corrie and Hollyoaks really, I thought it was a shame not to include EE character's this Ruth Deller is referencing, I noticed you are going back and editing what I've put, so Sorry if It seems a little rushed. I can't get the cite tool bar to work properly either, I've tried a few times to get it working but my Opera browser is having non of it, so I often just type the parameters out from memory. Also in Jane Beale's article, the Hollyoaks reference that Ms Deller made, was a storyline in which Jaqui longed for a child, wanted to adpot and foster, tried a surrogate, in which media sources commented ruined her character, so she was hoping they don't take that route with Jane. That's why I left it because I thought it a fair comparison, but thinking about it, it's not over with on-screen so, probably best left out.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 23:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad you're adding the reception from lowculture. I was going to but couldn't really be bothered! I did a few before you started. I have all the EastEnders pages watchlisted so I always come along and make little edits after people add stuff. Shame you can't get the cite toolbar to work cos it's really handy. I think if there had been a comparison between the EastEnders and Hollyoaks storylines then maybe it could have been kept in, though it would have had to be explained for those not familiar with Hollyoaks (like me!). But because she said the baby storyline could become grating if they go down the same route not it was grating because they did go down the same route, then I don't think it's worth including. :) AnemoneProjectors 23:29, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey, look at two of my favourite editors conversing with each other. Now, let's talk about how awesome Ruth Deller is. :P - JuneGloom07 Talk? 00:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm too busy editing :P Is she on Twitter or anything? :) AnemoneProjectors 00:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
There is a Ruth Deller on Twitter, but I'm not sure if it's the same one. Lowculture is on there though. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 00:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Haha, yeah our paths have all crossed now. You should tweet and order her to post some new character reviews. :P Not that there aren't enough to be getting through atm, I can't help myself for some reason, just adding away. ( I just hope you get them all archived. :D ) RAIN the ONE (Talk) 00:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Get her to post reviews on Leon, Zsa Zsa and Fatboy so I can add them to my drafts! Especially Leon cos it's the shortest article of the three :D AnemoneProjectors 00:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

For you

--5 albert square (talk) 21:04, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Ringo Brown

Hi Anemone

I'm just wondering if it's me completely missing something here or being incredibly thick.

Someone has nominated the image on Ringo Brown's page for deletion saying it's in breach of WP:NFC and WP:NFCC. However I really can't see how it's in breach of these but I'm wondering if it's just me being thick! I really can't see how you can get images of a character unless it's via a screenshot. Someone has mentioned at the deletion page that the image is replacable because we could go on to the Neighbours set during rehearsals/filming and take a photo of the character then, but then surely that would class as us taking a photo of the actor whilst at work!

Just thought I'd see if you could shed any light on this policy as I really don't understand why the image fails it? --5 albert square (talk) 05:47, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

As you can see from the previous discussion on the image's talk page, I agree with you. I am formulating a reply now. AnemoneProjectors 10:30, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah thanks for that. I really just can't see why it fails it! Thought it was just me being thick and I know you know more about these processes so thought I'd ask in case I was missing something :) --5 albert square (talk) 19:36, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

UK charts

Hi, I have been continuing to work on the top 10 UK single articles and decided to create one for 1952. Would you be able to copy edit the lead and give me some feedback on the article, and also point me in the direction of some references (I have not had much success with Google News archive).

I am also not sure what to do when it comes to the 1954 article when it is created - the chart ran as a top 12 for most of the year but changed to a top 20 late on - should I list the top 12 for the whole year and then put a note on the 1954 and 1955 pages explaining this. The 1955 article onwards could then just list the top 10 singles.

Sorry for all the questions but I thought you would be a good person to ask. Thanks. 03md 13:29, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I don't mind you asking me, though I might not be the best person! The lead seems pretty much ok. References, well, where did you get the information from? As for 1954, I think it might be best to stick to the top 12 even after it because a top 20, then go to a top 10 from 1955. AnemoneProjectors 15:48, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. I got the info for the songs from Chart Stats and the lead was based around this information. I need some more reliable sources to cover these facts though. 03md 23:14, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
I see Chart Stats has been challeneged as a reliable source in the past. Have you tried OCC's new archive? There's always British Hit Singles & Albums. AnemoneProjectors 23:20, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Doctors (2000 TV Series)

Hello, I noticed you did some edits on some of the Doctors pages and I was wondering whether you would like to chat to me about maybe sorting them out as they are in a real mess at the moment, and I thought we could get the up to the same standard as EastEnders articles if you would like to? It's just a sugesstion, get back to me anytime, thanks. :) AcidBrights (talk) 08:33, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh hi. I only remember doing edits to List of Doctors characters, I'm not sure how I came across it but I saw things that needed fixing so I fixed them. I don't watch Doctors so would probably find it quite hard to help improve the articles if it was more than just minor fixes. I don't really find myself having the time and/or motivation to improve the articles that I am interested in at the moment. Sorry :) AnemoneProjectors 12:22, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Lucy Beale

Have you seen this? Scroll along to image 7 of the newspapers front pages, don't want to say what it says as it is kind of a spoiler but you'll see a picture of Lucy, is that true? I would normally just add that to her article but as it's the Daily Star and they are sometimes a little unreliable with their stories I thought I'd see if anyone else had heard of it? Can't find anything else on Google at the moment --5 albert square (talk) 22:56, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

If it's true, news will come out just after midnight (i.e. any second now) because that's when the embargo ends. Check Digitial Spy. AnemoneProjectors 23:00, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
You couldn't add it just from that picture anyway because there are no details on it. The story might not even be that she's been axed. Just a headline is no good as they're often written to be deliberately misleading. AnemoneProjectors 23:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I did wonder about that, still nothing yet from DS so that's good news I hope? Still nothing from any other news searches. I hope it's not true, I like Melissa! --5 albert square (talk) 23:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah Digital Spy always reports stuff at about 00:02 so I'm guessing it's not really true. Would be nice to see the actual Daily Star story to see what it says. Getting rid of Lucy is stupid. She's been there since she was born, not many babies get the chance to grow into adults! Martin is the only one really, but he's gone now. Lucy and Peter need to stick around! AnemoneProjectors 23:19, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I tried looking up the Daily Star online but I couldn't find the article, but maybe the online paper has different stories to the printed one so I'll need to buy the Daily Star tomorrow to find out what they're saying about Lucy! They've axed a lot of the young ones recently so they could really do with hanging on to Lucy or Peter won't have anyone to talk to and he'll become Peter-no-mates! --5 albert square (talk) 00:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
OK, finally found a link, for the story. Personally though I'm still taking this with a massive pinch of salt, I'm waiting for another source to confirm it before I believe it --5 albert square (talk) 00:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Interesting, but keet an eye on the article, I already had to revert once. Don't let anyone add this as it's clearly unrealiable without it being confirmed elsewhere (not just reported with attribution to the Daily Star, as is highly likely to happen), as this is a rather unreliable source on its own. Digital Spy might even report it, because some of their reporters do do that kind of lazy reporting, but Kris Green will get to the bottom of it so keep an eye on Digital Spy :) AnemoneProjectors 00:28, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Forgive Me

Hi again! I was wondering if you are not busy for helping me making a copy-edit to the article Forgive Me (Leona Lewis song) (specially in the American and British English spelling differences that were marked at the GAN revision), as long as it is no trouble, of course. Thanks TbhotchTalk C. 23:54, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes I'd be happy to help out on that, once I catch up on my watchlist :) AnemoneProjectors 00:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I made some minor edits, on the whole it reads pretty well to me. I couldn't see any spelling issues, I'm sure the two that were mentioned were the only two there were. AnemoneProjectors 00:37, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I did notice the AceShowBiz reference for the video premiere doesn't contain a url. Not sure if that's an issue but it seems a little odd to me. AnemoneProjectors 00:40, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if ot should be removed, when I clicked "save page" a message appear, saying that the url is marked as spam. Should I? TbhotchTalk C. 00:44, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Ah I wondered if AceShowBiz was blacklisted. Not sure what you should do really. Can another source be found for the premiere date? If not I guess leave it as it is, it's not been mentioned at the GAR. AnemoneProjectors 00:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Incredibly there are not other sources, inclusive at Leona Lewis Official Website doesn't say about it. TbhotchTalk C. 00:56, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh dear. I remember when it was first shown on TV but I don't know if it was online before that. AnemoneProjectors 01:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
According to the stub article, premiered at 4Music. But on thier database I could not find about it. TbhotchTalk C. 01:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh, by the way, thanks for all (ALL) your copy-edits here is something for you.
Editors Barnstar.png The Editor's Barnstar
Thank you for all your copy-edits for the article ”Forgive Me”! :). TbhotchTalk C. 01:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Aww thanks! I found the original article on AceShowBiz - google brings it up as the first result when searching for the title. I wonder if we could use URL shortening to be able to link to the article, though I'm not sure if that's allowed. Better still, we could request that the page be whitelisted at MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist. I see from there that a page at AceShowBiz has been whitelisted before. AnemoneProjectors 01:15, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
If this link was approved, I think that others too. I'll request it. TbhotchTalk C. 01:25, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Go for it. The blacklist annoys me sometimes because you lose all your work when you don't realise a source you are adding is blacklisted. Usually I don't see a reason for it. AnemoneProjectors 01:27, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I added a request, so just we have to wait. TbhotchTalk C. 01:51, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Well the GA passed anyway, but still would be nice to have the link whitelisted. AnemoneProjectors 12:15, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

My images.

Hello. I was just wondering, I do see why you disagreed with my pictures such as Roxy Mitchell and Zainab Masood, but the E:20 images really needed updating, please could I continue to update them, as their pictures look very quickly done, thanks, GSorby. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsorby (talkcontribs) 23:11, 31 May 2010

Hi, I don't think they necessarily need updating because an image of the character is an image of the character, no matter how old. E20 was only a few months ago so they images aren't that out of date anyway, but I still don't think there's a reason to replace them at all. The picture you uploaded of Fatboy was a bit too dark as well. AnemoneProjectors 22:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
What about if I got a better image of him, could I please update it with that? also, what do you think if the Leon Small image, is that OK? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsorby (talkcontribs) 22:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
That was a bit dark as well. I guess if the images weren't so dark it would be ok, but there's still not really a reason to replace the images as they are current enough as they are. Also please can you sign your posts by typing ~ four times? Thanks. AnemoneProjectors 22:20, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
OK. I'm sorry if I caused trouble. I must admit the current images do look a little shabby, please, just this once, I would love to update the current E20 crew. And now to sign this comment if I do it right. Gsorby (talk) 22:23, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes you signed it right. By the way you should reduce the resolution of the images so they are no more than 300x300. If you can get clearer images then yeah I'll let you! Try for better lit scenes though. AnemoneProjectors 22:25, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes! Thank you. I thought they were rather a large resolution. I'm like Gungadin. I LOVE updating the images. I was going to update Ben, but he was updated before I got there...I Guess I can find more characters that actually need updating. Once again, thanks. Gsorby (talk) 22:28, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Sure. In most cases they probably don't need updating. By the way if a character doesn't have their own article and is in a list of characters, it might not be a good idea to upload an image if they don't already have one, as there is a restriction on the number of copyrighted images we can use in one page. AnemoneProjectors 23:55, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Leona Lewis tour guide

I believe {{citebook}} however the tour guide has no author, no ISBN and no publisher. Is it really a book? Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:10, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

It is sort of a book. I'd prefer to always use citation templates, are those fields essential? Will it come up with an error if they're not included? If there isn't an appropriate template, would just {{cite}} work? {{Cite journal}} might do the trick... AnemoneProjectors 22:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
ok i've used the {{cite}} template as it has more options and is more flexible/adapatable to the information we have. tomorrow i will cross-reference the guide to see if there's any other relevant information that can be added to make the source more complete. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:29, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

They are not from surrey

They are not from Surrey, I should know, my daughter went to Spelthorne Gymnastics club, look at this link and the address, it isn't surrey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harleybakers (talkcontribs) 21:59, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Spelthorne (and therefore Ashford) is in Surrey. Middlesex only exists as a postal county. That's why their address appears to be Middlesex - that's the address you'd use to write to them. AnemoneProjectors 22:06, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Lucy Beale (2)

Hi,on lucy beale's page it says played by melissa suffield 2004-2010. i changed it to 2004- because she isnt leaving the programme. You undid the edit and said not for long. What do you mean? Gobbleswoggler (talk) 14:50, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Melissa Suffield is leaving this year. However, we're not sure if it means Lucy is leaving or will be recast. AnemoneProjectors 16:11, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I knew that she would be recast somehow! It did make me smile though looking back on her talk page discussion now :) --5 albert square (talk) 20:14, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I knew it too. Ben as well. And Ben's talk page makes me smile more, looking back! AnemoneProjectors 20:37, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh it's not Ben's talk page at all. Maybe it was Lucy's. Maybe the list of characters. I'm lost :) AnemoneProjectors 20:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I couldn't help but laugh at thinking how those on Lucy's talk page that said she will definitely not, never ever, not in a million years, be recast after 6 years of Melissa must be thinking! How quiet they've gone! Both characters are either in the middle of big storylines or have big storylines coming up so a recast made sense. With Ben there might be a break but with Lucy I think it will be a case of Melissa on Friday new girl on Monday type thing. Still don't want Madeline to go but I do understand Kirkwood's reasons for doing so given that she's barely been on-screen since Tanya went --5 albert square (talk) 21:32, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh, the talk page I'm thinking about is Sam Mitchell. Gungadin predicted she'd get released after 8 months and she was totally right! I suppose it is funny how it's gone quiet now, but I said to wait, I said to be patient, and I was right. Sources are saying there will be a break with Ben but with Lucy there won't - that's got to be down to the reasons for Suffield leaving. I'm sure when Peter was recast to Thomas Law it was one face one week and another the next. AnemoneProjectors 21:39, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Big Brother's Big Awards Show

Hello there. This is a message to make you aware that the aforementioned article, which you have recently edited, has been nominated for deletion. You may be interested in joining in with the discussion here. Thanks, KingOfTheMedia (talk) 18:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I will. AnemoneProjectors 18:09, 9 June 2010 (UTC)


I saw you voted in the first round of Picture of the Year but not yet in the finals. Please support your favorite before it's over tomorrow :) Hekerui (talk) 16:32, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I never got around to finishing my votes in the first round! Glad to see something I liked is in the final. Thanks for the tip, I didn't know! AnemoneProjectors 17:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Warayama


Just thought I'd give you a heads up, you may want to add this user to your watchlist. They've been vandalising List of EastEnders characters (2005)tonight, and, if you look at the edit summaries, it could be taken that they were threatening legal action against a user or against Wikipedia. I reported the user to WP:AIV and they're now blocked but only for 3 days. I thought I'd mention it because I think that they will be back editing along the same lines, probably to the same article or even other EastEnders articles, when their block is lifted.

Hope you're well! Woke at 4amish myself this morning and couldn't get back to sleep so thought I'd just jump on Wikipedia :) --5 albert square (talk) 03:30, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I would suggest that Warayama, Princessking, Perfectsun and Forrestparry are all the same person. I'm fine thank you :) AnemoneProjectors 09:47, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I have started to wonder the same thing myself. I am keeping a very very very close eye on all of them now --5 albert square (talk) 20:03, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
They all made exactly the same edits. I should just duck block them all. AnemoneProjectors 20:06, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Can you? I was just going to watch their edits and raise a SPI if necessary --5 albert square (talk) 20:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I reckon go to SPI... if it happens one more time. They haven't edited for some time. AnemoneProjectors 20:55, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Bianca Jackson

Bianca Jackson has been checked against the GA criteria and the reviewer placed the article on hold. I've never done any work on it, but you and your project members have, I nominated it because I thought it was good. Maybe you and a few of your fellow project members are going to help make some of the noted changes? Thanks. RAIN the ONE (Talk) 15:19, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I've notified the EastEnders WikiProject to see if anyone will help. I think you nominated Peggy Mitchell (was it?) and there wasn't a lot to work on so I fixed it all and it passed, but with Bianca there's loads and I'm feeling a bit.... you know, can't be bothered much with Wikipedia right now, just doing it because I feel like I have to, so I don't think I'll be helping with that article. It's no biggie if it fails though. AnemoneProjectors 15:26, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay thanks for letting them know. I did nominate Peggy, I just do it now and again if I think there's a chance. There is quite a bit to be done I guess, if there wasn't of much I'd of probably helped too.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 15:39, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Lewis' voice


To write a paragraph on a voice, we will always obliged to refer to the opinion of a professional, is the principle of Wikipedia. Please, explain me what you call "fact". Lully 2010 (talk) 16:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Her vocal range and voice type are facts. We shouldn't use people's opinions of her voice to describe her voice. The tone was inappropriate for an encyclopaedia. AnemoneProjectors 16:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
All Wikipedia articles are built this way, and nobody complains.Lully 2010 (talk) 17:09, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Reception for albums and TV shows are, but for someone's voice it should be fact based not opinion based. AnemoneProjectors 17:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Maria Callas's, Maiah Carey's, Celine Dion's, Whitney Houston's voice sections are opinion based and nobodys complains. Lully 2010 (talk) 18:00, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
They shouldn't be. The "other articles say this so why shouldn't this one" argument is invalid on Wikipedia. AnemoneProjectors 18:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Besides, what you wrote was treating opinion as if it was fact. AnemoneProjectors 18:04, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Mariah Carey and Celine Dion are featured article.Lully 2010 (talk) 18:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
And? AnemoneProjectors 18:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Two octaves and a fifth, eh, Lully? That made me chuckle. As Janet Edwards explained, the average human can achieve 3 octaves (even if they can't sing very well). [5] You added a source that says Leona is below the average! Simply not serious. Wikispan (talk) 18:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Two octaves and a fifth? Why didn't I even noticed the wrongness of that? Original research shows she can do D3-F#6. But that's original research. AnemoneProjectors 18:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Three signed editors (myself, yourself, and Calvin) have been reverted by user Lully 2010 (both anon IP's resolve to France)[6][7] I cannot undo his edits on Leona Lewis and elsewhere because I am over 3RR. Can you kindly assist? Wikispan (talk) 16:03, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

You keep removing the logo for Stevenage that I put up.

The first time I noted it as being Fair use - but I note I didn't correctly select the fair-use category. So why not just correct it instead?

Instead of just correcting my error, the file gets listed for deletion and the old (and now incorrect logo) gets put back! So it is preferred to have the page out of date with the old logo which has the same fair-use status. Utter stupidity.

I therefore re-loaded it selecting the correct fair-use policy, which is the same as the old logo, and put it back replacing the old logo, but you have removed it again, quoting the same reason as before, which is now false, because I corrected it, and instead uploaded the same image under a different file name, just to take credit.

Apart from effectively taking credit for what I did, your file name is misleading - your file name for the new logo refers to the old club name, which is somewhat ironic.

You have a damned cheek! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajjam1967 (talkcontribs) 23:28, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

You didn't specify the source or the licence for the image, so it couldn't be used in the article! I reverted to the image that was correctly sourced and licenced. It's not up to me to correct your errors. I did nothing "just to take credit". There's no ownership on Wikipedia, and besides, it's not your logo, so even you can't "take credit" for it. What I did do is what you should have done, i.e. gone to the existing image and opted to "upload a new version", then updated the source information. The file name isn't that important, but if you're concerned, I can move it to remove the word "Borough". AnemoneProjectors 01:43, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Danny Mitchell

So glad you agreed with me! I don't even remember his great uncle being mentioned and I don't see how it's really relevant to the character --5 albert square (talk) 21:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

I've been reverting it for the past week (or so it feels!). Glenda apparently named Danny after her uncle, I do believe it was mentioned. But not only is he unimportant (and we've been removing unimportant family from infoboxes) but there's no paramenter for it. AnemoneProjectors 23:31, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I know the feeling :) I've been doing it too and I'm ashamed to say that I also didn't spot that Glenda had been put down as Archie's husband instead of his wife! --5 albert square (talk) 23:45, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
That was me, I typed out the lead today and wrote husband instead of wife. I do it all the time, I think I called Amira Syed's boyfriend once instead of girlfriend! AnemoneProjectors 23:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Glad to see I'm not the only one that makes those kind of typos :) --5 albert square (talk) 00:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Hehe, well they're not really typos, I just don't think while I'm typing it so I write the wrong word. I should concentrate more. AnemoneProjectors 00:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Re:Cheeky Girls/BGT

Ah, I thought that may the case... Thanks for letting me know. J Milburn (talk) 00:13, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Glenda Mitchell

Hey there, I just wanted to let you know, I added Glenda Mitchell's image again, but with added height, you can delete the rest of the old images, I did try, but don't have the right permissions. Thanks GSorby (talk) 16:55, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I saw your edit summary so would have done it anyway :-) AnemoneProjectors 17:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Just a quick query

Hi there, hope your well? Just wondered, are sales allowed to appear in a discography even if there is a credible source (such as Google Books or Billboard coverstory etc.). In case your wondering the article in question was Janet Jackson discography. Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:25, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm I always thought sales were generally removed from discographies, personally I don't see the point in including them (if it's been certified that indicates sales anyway). But according to MOS:DISCOG they can be included (in fact sales is on a list of things it says should be included, but I might change that). AnemoneProjectors 16:39, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Mitchell Family Tree

Just a quick notice, I don't know what you want to do about Danny Mitchell on the family tree on the Mitchell Family page? Now we know his father isn't Archie? So he technically isn't a Mitchell. I love GenoPro by the way, I've researched my own family history with it :) Alex250P (talk) 12:15, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Forgot about the tree. I shall remove him later. I use GenoPro to store all my family tree information (though you can't do research with it). AnemoneProjectors 13:13, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually I might keep him in and just change his father. AnemoneProjectors 13:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Connected Boy Band

More I think about it, the more I reckon {{db-r3}}. "Connected (band)" is sufficient; anyone looking is going to be focussing on "Connected" and "band". I'm happy to do the honours unless you've any objections? TFOWR 13:56, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

No objections. I didn't really want to delete it while the discussion was ongoing though, as the talk page would have to be deleted too. AnemoneProjectors 14:17, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
I figured as much! It seems a bit rude deleting a page you're having a chat on... anyway, deleted now! TFOWR 14:23, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Lauren Branning


What do you reckon to this edit? Personally I don't think an edit like that belongs in the article, if there is another reason given for her not returning to London once the summer period is over we can add it then? I just don't want to revert the page because of the 3RR rule :) --5 albert square (talk) 20:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I've already undone it because we don't write things that didn't happen, only things that did. It's a bit WP:CRYSTAL-y. AnemoneProjectors 20:23, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I thought that too :) --5 albert square (talk) 20:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


Hello. If you can spare a few minutes your opinion would be appreciated at: Wikiproject/Discographies#Do music videos and other charted songs belong. --Lil-unique1 (talk) 01:04, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

A quick thank you

Barnstar of Reversion2.png The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
for all your hard work accross a large number of pages to remove minor vandalism that might otherwise go un-noticed. Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:32, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't search for vandalism, I just look at my watchlist generally... not sure there's much on my watchlist that wouldn't be seen by other users. But thanks anyway :-) AnemoneProjectors 23:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Just wanted to say...

...commendations for your limitless patience over at Denise Johnson. I thought the BBC were underestimating how savvy audiences are wrt twists these days, but judging from the edit history, apparently not. Just a general pat on the back for enduring it so stoically :) Frickative 18:26, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I can't believe people actually think Denise has died. It's so obvious she hasn't. They've all forgotten about that prostitute! Ooh it's on now!!!! AnemoneProjectors 18:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

You've moved up

According to Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits/latest, you're currently #233. you should update your userbox! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

But that's why I use the "as of" date. I'll update it when I'm ready. AnemoneProjectors 00:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 Done AnemoneProjectors 00:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
Lol, I was just passing by and noticed the userbox, so I thought I'd check! You're miles further up the list than I am! :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:50, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

xfactor fan = marked for removal

Dear AnemoneProjectors, I have written to you and all members associated with wikiproject x factor, and I desperately need your help!!! I am the editor of The_X_Factor_Fansite, currently under heavy attack by admins who have articled for removal. Earlier they tagged other x factor sites of mine as speedy removal, and within minutes my article was gone. I need your vote to save. I need your vote immediately to be placed at: [[8]]

PLEASE HELP ME! I am also a member of wikiproject x factor and feel very strongly about the issues.--Robtencer (talk) 06:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


Hey Anemone. You seem to always say my images are always blurred. I know this, but I copy them straight from iplayer and they are like that. Could you please tell me how I could obtian images from episodes without it blurring? Thanks. GSorby 17:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsorby (talkcontribs)

I don't know, but it's not very good. A lot of your images come out too dark as well. Maybe if you didn't have iPlayer full screen? Maybe it's not the best way to capture images. User:Gungadin was always our supplier of images and she had a good way of doing it, but I don't know what it was. But as I said, there's not really any need to upload new images where images already exist, because there's no need to be "current". Also, it's probably not a good idea to upload new images for characters that don't have their own articles, because we are not allowed too many fair use images in each article. For example, the 2009 page now has seven images, so they could all end up being tagged for deletion. We used to have an image for every infobox, but people complained and several were deleted. AnemoneProjectors 18:01, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Okay. I will remember that in future. I'll ask Gungadin, if she will tell me her way of doing it. And only add images when they are needed!! Even I can see that it gets annoying to have to repeat yourself. By the way on another note. Are you able to change usernames? If so could I have mine changed from Gsorby to GSorby please? Thanks. GSorby 18:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't mind new images being added if they are an improvement :-) I haven't seen Gungadin around for a while, so I don't know how soon you'll get a reply. It's good that there's someone else willing to supply images though. But anyone can use iPlayer. I wonder if it might be better if you didn't have it full screen, though you'd have to get a full-frame shot of the face. Yes you can have your username changed by a beurocrat, have a read of Wikipedia:Changing username. AnemoneProjectors 18:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Denise Johnson

Hey Anemone, I noticed sobody managed to change Denise's death to 8 July again. I changed it back but that's the 4th time today. Any chance you could track who keeps doing this? Thanks. GSorby 22:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Semi protection on the article ended today. You only reverted one edit though. Regardless, I have protected it again. AnemoneProjectors 22:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Lucas Johnson

Hey Anemone. I've noticed that Lucas has been marked as departing. I've read the reference but are you sure it's reliable? I'm just a bit curious that's all. Regards, --GSorbyDesroid 20:08, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes it's an interview between Diane Parish who plays Denise and Kris Green who at the time worked for Digital Spy and now works for EastEnders. Green has seen the episodes and Parish has filmed them, so if any source is reliable, it's this one. AnemoneProjectors 20:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh sorry, it's Daniel Kilkelly, not Kris Green. But he has also seen the episodes as Green's successor as soaps editor on Digital Spy. Kilkelly asks "Lucas's storyline is obviously drawing to a close now - will you miss working with Don Gilet?" and Parish responds "I will really, really, really miss working with him." AnemoneProjectors 20:15, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh and the remainder of the interview shows that Parish herself is not leaving, so she means that she will miss Gilet because he is leaving, not because she is. AnemoneProjectors 20:17, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh my bad! I didn't really catch that properly. I've just watched it again and get it entirely. Regards, --GSorbyDesroid 20:28, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
I presume that is the reference to which you were refering. AnemoneProjectors 20:40, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes I was refering to the reference. --GSorbyDesroid 20:44, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
There are lots, I mean that the reference to which you refer is the Digital Spy interview with Diane Parish? Yes, good. No problem. :-) AnemoneProjectors 20:58, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Jodie Gold

Evening Anemone. I was looking through Jodie's page, and see somebody had edited it. Please could you look at the last small paragraph? It says 'Jodie leaves to get a condom and freshen up....'. Is that correct because I don't recall seeing or hearing that. Thanks, --GSorbyDesroid 21:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I wrote that. They were kissing on the settee and Darren said he'd forgotten something, Jodie then said "I've got one in my bag, I'll go and get it and freshen up." I don't see what else it could mean. AnemoneProjectors 22:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Still, why would Jodie have sex with Darren at Max's house? And she screamed when he pulled his boxer shorts down...But you are right about her saying she's 'got one in her bag'...rather confusing. --GSorbyDesroid 22:04, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't know why they would have sex at Max's house, especially as Max walked in then, he would have caught them in the act! I think I know why she screamed, and it's not because she didn't want sex... AnemoneProjectors 22:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I think I know why she screamed, but, why do you think she screamed, if that's a question to ask? --GSorbyDesroid 22:11, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Because she's Jewish and could visibly see that he is not. Perhaps she's never seen a non-Jewish man naked before. AnemoneProjectors 22:17, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Just as I thought! Poor Jodie... --GSorbyDesroid 22:18, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Maybe her name is really Jodie Goldstein :-) AnemoneProjectors 22:23, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Haha! Perhaps it is!! I just wanted to point out this new version of Kim Fox. Is that good quality if I were to replace or add future images? I think it's the best I've done :) --GSorbyDesroid 22:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
That image is perfect! The last one seemed a bit pixellated... but this one is great. No need to replace that one. :-) AnemoneProjectors 22:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes! That means I finally found a way to obtain good quality images! By the way, is the resolution good? I think keeping it 300 pixels maximum is good enough resolution, am I right? --GSorbyDesroid 22:40, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
300 pixels is about right, but make sure the width is not less than 200px. AnemoneProjectors 22:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
One other minor thing that isn't really important but if possible could you try to not have the person's face looking too far to the right? It looks a bit strange having them look away from the page, if you know what I mean! :-) Not a hugely important thing but just something that bugs me sometimes. But that doesn't mean "please replace the Roxy image" lol AnemoneProjectors 23:22, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I know exactly what you mean! I must admit, I do prefer them looking at the page! So the Roxy image was Okay? --GSorbyDesroid 23:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Yes but I do think the previous one was also okay. Zsa Zsa looks cross-eyed! But these are just minor niggles. AnemoneProjectors 00:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)


User talk:Sprinkletinkle did vandalise the pages. One of which I got protected from IP's earlier because of adding false family members to infoboxes. Funnily enough he made the exact same edit an me and another editor have reverted endless times on the page. Hmm. The user is thinking new family members up just to fill out infobox fields.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 00:19, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, like "Granny Fox"!!!!!! You're welcome :-) AnemoneProjectors 00:21, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Kim Fox & Becca Swanson (EastEnders)

Hey Anemone. I'm here to ask if it's okay if I can create a seperate article for Kim Fox and Becca Swanson? I can extend the information as well. --GSorbyDesroid 15:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

If you can expand the information (real-world, not storylines) using reliable, third-party sources, then you should do so within the list entries. WP:EASTENDERS agreed to discuss any splitting off once a character has been in the show for six months and has enough verifiable, real-world information. Becca has been in for that long, but we have no real-world information, so a new article would go against Wikipedia's guidelines on writing about fiction and would just be merged back to the list. Kim hasn't been in the show for six months (so far she's only had a handful of episodes spread over three short stints). I wouldn't be in favour of splitting either of them off as they are, so expand the information first if you can, and then discuss splitting them off with the WikiProject. AnemoneProjectors 16:37, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Hey Anemone is this okay and enough to start a new article? I really want to start this article as it would be my first. --GSorbyDesroid 21:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it's necessary to create a new article. Four references isn't really enough, especially as they are all from the same website, and as I said, she's not been in the show for very long. I would suggest asking the whole of the EastEnders WikiProject on WT:EE if you want a wider opinion. AnemoneProjectors 21:54, 28 July 2010 (UTC)


Can you help? User talk: is actually the most disruptive IP here, So many warnings, it's the infobox editor, I spend most of my time combatting this IP's edits. They are so taking the <insert word here/> out of the soap articles. It's EE, Hollyoaks and Neighbours everyday.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 21:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, you gave a final warning, so next time they vandalise, they'll be blocked. Not sure how I can help unless it's with blocking. AnemoneProjectors 21:52, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
That's what I was hoping, blocking. They had the warning but have done it twice today.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 22:10, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Have they vandalised since the last warning? AnemoneProjectors 22:16, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
They had a final warning last month, my only warning after a big spate of pointless edits was 20:22, 26 July 2010.. Two edits today [9] and [10], not major vandalism, but happens everyday now making these character names up. The edit on the Will Griggs article has been going on for months, and being driving me and Junegloom loopy.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 22:23, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
ok, I've decided to block the IP for one month. Normally IP blocks only start off short but it's clear that this is one person who always has the same IP, and they are highly disruptive. The block will obviously be longer next time. AnemoneProjectors 22:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for that AP.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 01:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Tom Clemments

I see you deleted Thomas Clements a couple of days ago. The same page has been created over here (under a slightly different title), but I do not see how it fell under the CSD category of being a hoax. {{tb}} please if replying Thanks, Stickee (talk) 10:44, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Well I believe it contained lots of false information, even though the character did exist (not called Thomas thgouh). Anyway, the article does not need to be created as Tom Clements (EastEnders) already exists (as a redirect to an appropriate section in a list). Tom Clemments is an implausible title for a redirect so I have deleted it once again. AnemoneProjectors 10:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Also, the user is a sockpuppet of an indef blocked user, so speedy deletion criterion G5 applies. AnemoneProjectors 10:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

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Diana Vickers

See Talk:Diana_Vickers. --Lexein (talk) 04:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Lisa Fowler Image and others

Evening Anemone. I just dropped by to ask you about my images. Are the images I've provided good enough? And I added the rational to Lisa Fowler's image. Is that right? Regards, --GSorbyDesroid 19:28, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Yep Lisa is good. Rainie is ok though she looks a bit too clean, if you know what I mean. She's normally drug addicted so many you could try to get another one once she's back on the drugs. The rationale is good too, in fact if you update any images that don't use the rationale template, would you mind adding it? A lot of our rationales aren't very good. AnemoneProjectors 19:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Hiya Anemone Just wanted to point out my Phil Mitchell image. You say that Rainie has to look rough after being on drugs, since phil's an alcoholic, I think he should have that image. --GSorbyDesroid 00:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Well Rainie's only ever been on drugs really. Phil's been sober for the majority of the time. I don't think that's a reason to replace the image with one of him drunk. (Sorry, I thought I had replied before I went and reverted you but the page didn't load and the reply didn't save). AnemoneProjectors 00:43, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Leona Lewis

I don't wish to be rude, but why do you keep editing an article about Leona Lewis? 8 August 2010, 18:41 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Because I'm a Wikipedia editor. I edit several articles on a regular basis. AnemoneProjectors 20:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Just wondering, have you ever considered nominating some of your articles for GA? Happy (Leona Lewis song) and I Got You (Leona Lewis song) as well as the album Echo (Leona Lewis album) could all be eligable with a bit of work. Equally Leona Lewis discography might be eligable for FL? --Lil-unique1 (talk) 21:15, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I do want to nominate them for GA, but I want to work on them first I think. I really want to get Leona Lewis, Spirit (Leona Lewis album) and Bleeding Love to GA. AnemoneProjectors 21:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Well if you want any help feel free to ask. I've just recently got Fight for This Love and 3 Words (song) to GA and am in the process of solidifying Commander (song). The best advice I can give is model your candidates on other albums/songs which have already passed. I'm sure they won't be far off... --Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I will. AnemoneProjectors 23:35, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

EastEnders characters template

Hello there, do you know whats happened to the EastEnders characters template? It appears to have gone all weird on the bottom of each character article? Bleaney (talk) 21:00, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Someone edited it, adding something strange. I have reverted it. AnemoneProjectors 21:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Cheers! Bleaney (talk) 21:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)


I was just wondering if you can do page moves? I don't really fancy waiting in that huge backlog though and it does say feel free to contact an admin to do it. It's just moving Lee Hunter (Hollyoaks) to Lee Hunter. So it's not a biggie. :)RAIN the ONE (Talk) 17:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I can but wouldn't it be better to create a disambiguation page at Lee Hunter because of Lee Hunter (engineer)? AnemoneProjectors 18:25, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
I did think it would be a good idea, but then thought I can just put the note on the top of the page 'for the engineer lee hunter..' I think I might put the engineer up for deletion anyway. Lazy editing and just had a look on google for refs... nothing only those pretty shoddy external links.RAIN the ONE (Talk) 21:07, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
In that case, I will move it. AnemoneProjectors 21:47, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for that, very helpful. :)RAIN the ONE (Talk) 22:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Zsa Zsa Carter image

Good Evening, Anemone. Just dropped by to say ZsaZsa55.JPG has an awful lot of non-used images. Would it be better if they were deleted? Thanks --GSorbyDesroid 18:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

I've just come to it on my watchlist from Bjornapol's upload, and yes I would have deleted them anyway. There's not really any rush to do it. :-) AnemoneProjectors 18:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Haha. I will eventually get a decent one of Zsa Zsa. I wish I could get good ones all the time like Kim Fox´s and Jodie`s. --GSorbyDesroid 18:20, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
The current one is ok, apart from her cross-eyedness! AnemoneProjectors 19:01, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello Anemone. I uploaded a new Zsa Zsa Carter image as File:ZsaZsa-Carter.jpg. I couldn't upload it to ZsaZsa55.jpg because it said that there was a date error and needed to have a new file format? I think you can delete the 55 version? Thanks, --GSorbyDesroid 20:02, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
That photo doesn't really say "Zsa Zsa" to me. I think some of the older ones were better. I think it's her hair. It should be up and more blue. AnemoneProjectors 20:50, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay. Is the current one (that you reverted) fine then? Does it need replacing? --GSorbyDesroid 20:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
I think it's ok, but I think the best one was the original E20 one. AnemoneProjectors 20:55, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Hey y'know I do still have that. Shall I re-upload it? --GSorbyDesroid 20:56, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
I could have undeleted it but that's ok :-) AnemoneProjectors 21:09, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
I see Bjornapol tried to replace it. I don't know why, but she keeps replacing nearly every Image I uploaded. Do you know why she does this? By the way, I'm collecting Images for a project, could you restore the new one that Bjornapol uploaded temporarily? That would be great, --GSorbyDesroid 11:22, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
No idea why (maybe thinks it's an improvement or should be an up to date picture?) and yes I can do that. AnemoneProjectors 11:42, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Anemone, I just wanted to ask you. This image I think is very good in my opinion. Could we please just have this one on temporarily? Just until I can get one that has the 'Zsa Zsa' attitude? I hope that you'll agree. --GSorbyDesroid 15:25, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

(undent) I think the one we have currently in the article is better though. AnemoneProjectors 16:59, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

List of EastEnders characters!!!

Hello Anemone. User:‎ keeps editing the list of EastEnders characters and making it a huge mess! I'm finding it hard to keep up with the reverting! Please could you stop this? Regards, --GSorbyDesroid 20:31, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

It's User:Jacko123456 and I have warned him. I will continue to do so until he stops or is blocked. If it continues after he's blocked (i.e. he creates new accounts or IPs start editing) then I will protect the pages concerned. AnemoneProjectors 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi Anemone. Jacko123456 keeps vandalizing pages! He keeps changing Madeline Duggan to Maddie. Has he been blocked from editing yet? --GSorbyDesroid 16:02, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
I think he only changed it once. He's on a final warning, so next time, he'll be blocked. AnemoneProjectors 17:40, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Speaking of which, I guess I was right the first time? I don't know anything about that article so I undid what looked like good faith editing. What happened? Thanks, Tommy! [message] 00:27, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, well, the baby might be born, but I don't think a section needs to be created for him because a) he doesn't have a name and b) if he's being adopted as the source says, he's going to be very minor, even for a baby. I'm trying to limit the main sections of the list to characters with some real-world information written about them. Plus, there was no evidence from the source that the baby will be seen anyway. AnemoneProjectors 00:32, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Alrighty. Thanks for clarifying. Tommy! [message] 00:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)


Just thought I'd drop by and say a quick hello to you. Managed to sneak on to Wiki at work whilst most of my colleagues are in training :)

Hopefully I'll be back online soon, Virgin Media and BT have now given my internet a new reconnection date of 31 August. Apparently I'm currently being held up in a BT backlog lol!

But can I just say, regarding Denise Johnson, I love it when me and you are right! Haha I knew she was going to end up turning up again alive and well. Me and you should just work for the BBC lol as we both know how the Beeb think!

I'm online today trying to keep an eye on the Neighbours article. After nearly 25 years on Channel Ten in Australia, Channel Ten have decided to move Neighbours to Channel Eleven, as you can imagine that has thrown the article right into the spotlight and there's been all sorts of edits to it today. I even reverted one earlier that said it aired on Channel Eleven 2011-present!

Hope you're well :) --5 albert square (talk) 12:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello! Missed having you around, hope you come back soon. Yes we were right about Denise! Just like we were right about Lucy. It was funny when everyone shut up after Denise was shown to be alive. The debate went suddenly very quiet lol. I heard about Neighbours from JuneGloom who I follow on Twitter - we have lots of off-wiki chats! But I wouldn't have expected lots of silly edits to the article. I hope you can both keep a good eye on it :-) AnemoneProjectors 13:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I also wouldn't have but some people are just plain silly.
I didn't realise that Lauren Branning was returning to EastEnders played by a different actress. Josephine Jossa I think the article says, I wonder if she's any relation to Megan Jossa who played Courteney Mitchell at one stage? Either way I removed the caption for the article saying that was Lauren played by Madeleine Duggan. The chances are when the new actress comes along the image will be updated and Madeline's image will be removed or moved elsewhere in the article. No need to have it there at the moment.
Yes, hopefully I will be back online soon! Didn't realise it would take so long for Virgin to sort everything out with BT lol --5 albert square (talk) 13:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
That's fairly old news but if you haven't been around you wouldn't have known. It's Jacqueline Jossa and they probably are related but there are no reliable sources. They were born in the same district and went to the same performing arts school. I restored the caption because a new image won't overlay the old one, we'll keep Duggan's photo and move it to image2, and upload a new one of Jossa to image1. I think we need the caption in case people wonder which actress it is. Yes people are silly and "2011-present" makes no sense whatsoever lol AnemoneProjectors 13:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Rainie Cross

Hi Anemone, is it possible if you could restore all revisions of Rainie Cross's image temporarily? Thanks --GSorbyDesroid 17:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Sure, let me know when I can re-delete them. AnemoneProjectors 17:25, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Bizarrely, when I clicked to restore them, it said they had already been restored, and I can't find any evidence of it being done! Anyway, the old revisions are now there. AnemoneProjectors 17:28, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Okay, you may re-delete, thanks for that! --GSorbyDesroid 18:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

external link added for x factor forums is a non-profit, fully dedicated discussion website for The X Factor. I don't see why you don't seem to think it would be helpful to the general public interested in The X Factor topic? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfawcett86 (talkcontribs) 17:58, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

See WP:ELNO, specifically #11. If I allowed your link, I'd have to allow 100 others. That's why we only allow official sites to be included in external links. If people want to find a discussion forum, they will have to search for one. AnemoneProjectors 18:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Point taken and I guess that's true, sorry thought I was being helpful :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mfawcett86 (talkcontribs) 09:31, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

The Bill


I thought you would be the best person to ask on this as I just know that this is going to happen when The Bill airs it's final ever episode on Tuesday.

At the minute the lead starts "The Bill is Britain's longest running police procedural". Am I right in thinking that it should stay reading this once the series has ended or should it be changed to read "The Bill was Britain's longest running police procedural"? --5 albert square (talk) 19:11, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Even after it ends, it is still the longest running whatever, but I would reword the whole thing. I would say something like "The Bill was a British television series..." and then after that say what it's about and that it's the longest running, otherwise it will be changed forever. AnemoneProjectors 19:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Anemone! --5 albert square (talk) 19:33, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Diana Vickers

I reverted this edit because all those charts werent official: Lebanon, Philippines and Croatia don't have official charts, and Italian charts can be found on this site or this site, nowhere else. ׺°”˜`”°º×ηυηzια׺°”˜`”°º× 19:31, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

That was what I thought, I hadn't checked the sites or anything. Thank you :-) (I hadn't really seen the previous edit, I was just on the page and noticed the broken refs) AnemoneProjectors 19:38, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh for goodness sakes ......

Guess who is messaging me on a certain EastEnders site continually asking me to add references to Jane Beale?

I'm looking for my stress ball right now :p --5 albert square (talk) 21:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh god, does the site allow blocking? I had to block him on Which site is it? I don't go on any EastEnders forums (only Digital Spy's soap forum). AnemoneProjectors 21:39, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
It's Walford Web forums. I think I can block him but as the site has only just re-opened after it's server went into meltdown I'm not entirely sure how. I've replied saying that her article has enough refs at the moment, if he replies then I'll look to copy in my friend. If need be I'll have to find out how to block him. Good god I like Jane Beale as well as all the other Beales and the Brannings too but I don't go adding stuff to their articles for the sake of it lol --5 albert square (talk) 21:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
He doesn't seem to realise there are no more sources available - other than the one I put on the talk page the other day. Plus, the page is no longer protected, so he could expand the article himself. AnemoneProjectors 22:05, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
I've told him that there are no more sources available and he's accepted it. That's made me worried now, normally he doesn't accept things as easily as that! --5 albert square (talk) 22:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
He'll probably ask you again tomorrow. Or to add sources to Laurie Brett instead lol AnemoneProjectors 22:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh god I hope not. If he does start messaging me every day I'm contacting admin to find out how I block someone. Apparently it is possible but I can't see how you do it. --5 albert square (talk) 23:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hopefully he's stopped now. Damn, it's not my birthday on Wikipedia for another 45 minutes! hehe AnemoneProjectors 23:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that's strange, Wikipedia's time is always out by an hour! Happy Birthday! --5 albert square (talk) 23:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Because Wikipedia uses UTC, so it's correct for us in the UK during the winter months. I imagine it's strange for people in America! Thank you :-) AnemoneProjectors 23:22, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you!!!!! AnemoneProjectors 00:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Twitter great? I've had birthday tweets from Tracy Ann Oberman, Joe Tracini, Sam & Mark and the Tree of Temptation from Big Brother! lol AnemoneProjectors 13:21, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Haha that's brilliant. Btw I thought Tracy Ann Oberman was supposed to return to EE when Sam was in jail? Or did I dream that up?
I think you jinxed me, guess who messaged me tonight asking me to add a reference to Jane Beale's article regarding her fling with Grant? I told him no, asked him not to message me again or I'd block him and I copied in the boards admin people when I did that. Dear me --5 albert square (talk) 20:50, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for jinxing you! No, she wasn't supposed to return! She said she was filming in Elstree at around the time but she had to quickly say it was for something else, not EastEnders! She said she'd like to return to resolve Chrissie's story, but it never happened. By the way now add to the list of birthday well-wishers on twitter Noel Sullivan and James Haskell. AnemoneProjectors 21:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Haha lol he's annoying the admin now by sending them pointless messages. He can do that all he likes to them lol as they will eventually get fed up!
I'm sure someone once said to me Tracy Ann Oberman was returning. I'm sure that was the reason I was given for them putting Sam Mitchell in jail! --5 albert square (talk) 21:59, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh good, you got rid of him. I wonder how long until he joins Twitter and starts tweeting me, or finds us all on Facebook? Whoever told you that was wrong! It would have in the List of EastEnders characters if t'were true :-) They wouldn't have brought Sam back just as a way to bring Chrissie back. AnemoneProjectors 22:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Well I have a Twitter account but I rarely use it. I do use my Facebook though, I hope he doesn't find me on there :/. By the way is Grant returning to EE? The ads on the BBC at the moment are a bit confusing, they show him but so far there's no source to say he's returning! --5 albert square (talk) 22:36, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Which ads? The Peggy trailers using clips from old episodes? AnemoneProjectors 22:41, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes but I think it's confusing some people with them showing him. They think he's returning! --5 albert square (talk) 22:57, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
So does that mean people also think Frank is returning? And Sharon? Nothing in those trailers implies any character will return. AnemoneProjectors 23:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)



Bit of a strange query but I thought you would be the best person to ask.

There's a question been posted at Talk: BBC where someone has proposed a name change to the article. They have said that there are numerous articles on Wikipedia that could all qualify for being called BBC and it might be clearer if we renamed it to the British Broadcasting Corporatiion. So instead of typing in BBC to find the article the person would have to type in the full name!

I've said no - there is a disambiguation page clearly for all other Wikipedia articles that could come under this name and it's easy enough for people to click on that. Also when I did a Google search (really just to back up my point!) Google could only find the BBC relating to the British Broadcasting Corporation.

Is there any rule in Wikipedia regarding the naming of articles that would state if the name of one article could belong to multiple companies that we go by the name that returns the most hits on a Google search?

I hope that makes sense! --5 albert square (talk) 09:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

I have replied there. Not sure I'm the best person to ask though lol AnemoneProjectors 11:26, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh no you are, you always know the answer to random queries like this lol! Can't believe I didn't remember WP:COMMONNAME though. D'oh! --5 albert square (talk) 12:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
The answer was really a combo of Common Name and Primary Topic - we shouldn't rename it because of Common Name and shouldn't disambiguate because of Primary Topic. I'm fairly good with disambiguation queries. I'm a member of the disambiguation WikiProject :-) AnemoneProjectors 13:05, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

Armbrust Talk Contribs 23:47, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! According to Wikipedia you were just in time, but in reality you were 48 minutes overdue :( AnemoneProjectors 23:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Peggy Mitchell's Departure

Hi Anemone, I've seen what you've said about Peggy's departure and I just want to confirm that she is leaving. My TV guide says that "The fire follows Peggy's departure". If you want , I can scan it and upload it and you can link a reference to that? And and I know this is a bit late but, Happy Birthday! --GSorbyDesroid 19:28, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

The fire can't be after Peggy's departure because Peggy is there when the fire starts. We know from sources (that haven't yet been added) that Peggy's final episode has been extended, so it must be Friday 10 September as that is the 40 minute episode, and is followed by a show called "Peggy Mitchell: Queen of The Vic". AnemoneProjectors 19:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I worded that wrong, I mean the other way round, I meant to say Peggy Departure follows the fire, my bad, that's me rushing again ;) --GSorbyDesroid 19:34, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, well the fire is on Thursday 9 September, the day before :-) oh and thanks for the happy birthday! AnemoneProjectors 19:48, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh but I don't think a scan of a TV guide is a very good thing to use as a source lol AnemoneProjectors 19:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Happy belated birthday, AP! Hope it was a good one! :D Just a thought - if there's TV guide confirmation, why not just throw a {{cite journal}} ref in there with the page number? Frickative 20:14, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks :-) Could do. My TV guide is in Heat magazine and they have reviewed the episode and basically imply that it's her last. AnemoneProjectors 20:17, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
The online Radio Times and What's on TV are strongly implying it too, but if GSorby's says it outright, it's at least easier than scanning. But equally not that urgent either way! Frickative 20:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I already added the date but I don't know if it was synth because we know Peggy's last episode is 40 minutes and the 40-minute episode is that date. AnemoneProjectors 20:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Becca Swanson (EastEnders)

Hi Anemone. Something popped up on my watchlist and somebody vandilized Becca's section. Just look at this. Although it did make me laugh (:D), can that be tolerated? Regards, --GSorbyDesroid 16:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

No it can't, and I have given the editor a warning. AnemoneProjectors 16:32, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Better in Time

Hi, I am tryin' to improve "Better in Time" for GA, and I would like to know if the UK version of the video is different of the international version For the U.S. release, the "Better in Time" music video was slightly changed. The scenes featuring Lewis with a horse were replaced with additional shots from the other parts of the video. It first premiered in the U.S. I found that in two sources exist two images that I've never seen, and exist a video of "Better in Time" that I cannot see because of the copyright. So I would like to know if the info is correct. Thanks TbhotchTalk C. 19:16, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

I've no idea if it's true because I've only seen one version of the video (if there are two, it'll be the UK one). I can't view the youtube video "This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds." But is there a source that says there are two videos or is it just original research based on Wikipedia editors noting a difference? AnemoneProjectors 19:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Maybe it is a US-only video. Maybe the second, because there's no sources about that. Thanks TbhotchTalk C. 19:40, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I noticed there are two "Better In Time" videos uploaded to YouTube on Leona's official channel, however I won't be able to view them for a few hours. If you want, I can check them both, I am sure one will play but the other might be the one that I can't view, I'm not sure. AnemoneProjectors 19:43, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Sam Mitchell (EastEnders)

Hey Anemone. Just wanted to let you know, Sam's image is only temporary? It's just that's the only good one I got but the resolution is really low. Will it be okay for a few days? --GSorbyDesroid 23:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

If it's only temporary then why bother uploading it in the first place? AnemoneProjectors 23:05, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Because she has changed a bit hasn't she? And on another nore, User:Trampikey is being a bit overdramatic with all this names thing, slagging you off, but I would imagne you saw that. --GSorbyDesroid 23:11, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
It might not be him but it looks like him. He should log in. Yes she's changed but I don't see the point in uploading a new photo if you're only planning to replace it again soon. I don't anything wrong with the one you uploaded tonight. AnemoneProjectors 23:15, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
So the one thats there now is fine? --GSorbyDesroid 23:16, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I think so, not as good as the one before though, but that's just cos she's only just out of prison/hospital. Yeah maybe you should replace it in a few days. She'll probably go back to blonde. AnemoneProjectors 23:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay, will do. --GSorbyDesroid 23:20, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Do you think she went from the hospital to the hairdresser's before returning to Walford? I wonder when she did her prison discharge paperwork ;-) AnemoneProjectors 23:25, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I know!! One minute her hair was all messy and up and then she walks in with like a model makeover hair do! ;-D --GSorbyDesroid 23:28, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey Anemone, just something I was curious about. Is Trampikey an administrator? --GSorbyDesroid 20:56, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

No, why? AnemoneProjectors 21:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh I was just curious, as he's given out a lot of barnyard awards and stuff. --GSorbyDesroid 21:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Barnstars? Anyone can give them out. AnemoneProjectors 21:27, 4 September 2010 (UTC)


why you changing my edits all the time? -- (talk) 19:05, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Because Josie isn't notable outside of Big Brother. See WP:LP1E. She has a biography on the list of housemates. If you want to write about her, you should do so there. AnemoneProjectors 19:09, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
youre link doesnt work please post a proper reason why you keep altering it -- (talk) 17:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) WP:BLP1E. You could also check the edit history of the article/redirect - I've referenced WP:BLP1E on the (two) occasions I've reverted back to the redirect, too. TFOWR 17:20, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, TFOWR, yes it was a typing error that I had not noticed. AnemoneProjectors 17:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Eponymous categories

I do not appreciate you emptying a category I created and then deleting the category as empty without it being empty for four days first or giving me a chance to say "hold on" or whatever I need to do. You should have taken it to CFD. I have attempted to delete similar eponymous categories such as Category:Corbin Bleu and Category:Deborah Cox, each resulting in no consensus. This should be taken to CFD as these were. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 18:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't see your note about responding on my own talk page until I posted this. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 18:06, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I had already undone your edits before the category was created. But please don't recreate it. AnemoneProjectors 18:10, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Also if you have already tried to delete eponymous categories, then why would you try to create another one when you know they are unnecessary in the majority of cases? AnemoneProjectors 18:12, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Because consensus is changing, so these categories will apparently survive, so I should follow that consensus. Between me adding and you removing from the category, at some point the category existed with items in it. You deleted the category empty, but per CSD C1, a category may be deleted if it has remained empty for at least four days. That has not occurred. I am saying "hang on" and would like it taken to CFD. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 18:16, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


Hey, I noticed you created a deaths page for the EastEnders characters? Well if you take a look at the Corrie ones: List of births, marriages, and deaths in Coronation Street do you think we could create something like this? As much of a mess the Corrie project is I think this is quite a good page. Alex250P (talk) 19:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I didn't create it, I supported its deletion. The list of BMDs for EastEnders is a subpage for the WikiProject page because it was previously deleted at AFD. AnemoneProjectors 19:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Samsung Group

Hi Anemone

Another weird question I thought you might know the answer to as I can't find it on Wikipedia. In infoboxes, is there any sort of size limit that pictures/logos can be? It's just that someone changed Samsungs from 150px to 180px. Dunno why as the previous size looked ok to me but I thought that was the max size for some reason? Probably am wrong lol.

Also do we have any welcome templates for WikiProject EastEnders? I was looking for one before for the anon IP that made a good faith edit to Lauren Branning but couldn't find one --5 albert square (talk) 21:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Images in infoboxes vary in size, some are 300px, it depends what it is. The logo looks fine to me at 180. The infobox documentation doesn't say.
We have Wikipedia:WikiProject EastEnders/Outreach/Invitation to invite users to the project and Wikipedia:WikiProject EastEnders/Outreach/Welcome to welcome new members to the project, but I don't think IPs should be joining. See Wikipedia:WikiProject EastEnders/Outreach. AnemoneProjectors 21:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, don't worry I wasn't going to ask them to join, I just wondered if we had templates kind of like the friendly welcome templates that we have at the moment but a little more EE orientated. Didn't think we did though as I'm a member of the Welcoming Committee, didn't think I'd seen them!
And thanks for checking the image --5 albert square (talk) 22:02, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
We have those but nothing that welcomes members to Wikipedia as well as invites them to join the EastEnders project. AnemoneProjectors 22:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah ok, where are those sorts of templates?
By the way should The Queen Victoria be citing Peggy's name re-appearing above the door as a key event? I personally wouldn't have classed it as one --5 albert square (talk) 22:16, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I already linked them above. I've been removing Peggy from the key events and added a note asking people not to add changes of ownership and other things there. AnemoneProjectors 22:25, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah, sorry me being dim. I was going to say that change of management for the pub isn't a key event, if we did it for Peggy then we'd have to do it for every landlord/lady for the pub! --5 albert square (talk) 22:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Yep and the key events section is for things not related to the general running of the pub, like rapes, murders, raids, taped conversations and fires. AnemoneProjectors 22:40, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

The Queen Victoria

Dammit, too quick for me tonight lol. That's twice I've gone to revert edits tonight only to be beaten by you lol! Once on the Queen Vic's page and once on Stacey Slater's!

Was a good fire though. Had me on the edge of my seat the whole half hour. Looking forward to the 40 minute episode tomorrow followed by the farewell Peggy programme after on BBC1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 5 albert square (talkcontribs)

I was hoping the bot that signs comments would sign your comment or you would realise and sign it yourself before I replied! Yep, gotta be quick tonight. I knew we'd have stuff to revert but I didn't expect people to change the Queen Victoria from "is" to "was"! Surely they realise it's being rebuilt, even if they don't understand how fiction works (just because it's destroyed doesn't mean it's no longer a fictional pub). Everyone knows Kat and Alfie are taking over the Vic. Duhh! The episode was amazing. I watched it twice because there was a lot I missed first time, like Syed being rescused by Zainab, and Ian saying "let it burn" before Peggy did. I'm working on an article as well. AnemoneProjectors 23:00, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh dammit, I've forgotten to sign my name a couple of times recently!
Yeah I thought it was strange when I saw the "is" to "was" change. I mean it's still a fictional pub even though it's burnt down and it's still being rebuilt. I had to revert something on Alfie Moon's page the other day because in one of the sentences about his return someone added that it was after the Queen Vic burnt down. Was kinda like d'uh! That's obvious because unless he appears in about the first ten minutes of the next episode it has to be after the Queen Vics burnt down!
Dunno though why Peggy didn't just blow out the match?
Oh, and I'm guessing now Peggy's going, Phil will probably be "assisting Walford police" I'm guessing that redecoration of The Vic will fall to Ronnie and Roxy. They've just done the same to R&R, they'll be getting dab hands at the painting and decorating business, wonder if they've ever though of becoming painters and decorators! --5 albert square (talk) 23:16, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Peggy's silly for not blowing out the match but he'd have just lit another one and been quicker second time, like the second match he did light. God knows what'll happen to Phil now but I hope it makes him see sense. Unlikely though, but since he started the fire, he should go dahhhhn! But he's not leaving (at least not for long, and panto season hasn't even started yet). I've seen a webcam picture of the Vic covered in scaffolding. The whole building will have to be rebuilt, forget decoration! Peggy will probably leave, put it up for sale and Kat and Alfie will buy it. There's a preview clip of tomorrow's episode that basically spoils Peggy's reason for going. But I can't wait. AnemoneProjectors 23:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I think I'd have blown the match out and then lunged for the box lol. But at least in hospital Phil will have to sober up!
I'm hoping that there's one or two surprises though for Bab's final episode :). My friend tells me that the whole episode is still embargoed, not surprised about that though, they want to keep it as much under wraps as possible to get as many viewers as possible! --5 albert square (talk) 23:46, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
I hope nothing about the episode leaks. It should stay embargoed. I know the fire is over but, you know. Yes Phil will have to sober up in hospital. They're bound to help him through his withdrawal too, so it might get him clean. Awwww I don't want Peggy to go!!!!! :'( AnemoneProjectors 00:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Hey you might want to check out the new image that's there. I've resized it meantime but I'm not altogether sure that a new image is warranted --5 albert square (talk) 22:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
The image should never be replaced it is a free one taken by someone who visited the set and uploaded the picture to Flickr under a Creative Commons licence. The new image has no source or licence anyway. AnemoneProjectors 22:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah ok I didn't realise that they couldn't be replaced. I resized it because the original screenshot nearly took over the page! --5 albert square (talk) 22:58, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh I didn't realise they made the image take up almost the whole page! Yeah free images should always be used in place of copyrighted ones if they are available. That's why we never have copyrighted images of living people or existing buildings - because free ones can be created. The woman outside the Vic is a bit annoying but not a lot we can do about that unless we get another free image. See also Amy Pond - there's a free image of the character in the infobox taking during filming, rather than a screenshot. AnemoneProjectors 23:10, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes it's a shame the BBC don't now allow tours of the set but it is understandable. If I'd been allowed on set when I went in February, I had plans to take a wee pic of the Queen Vic pub! --5 albert square (talk) 23:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I want to know how that person got photos of the set. See Commons:Category:EastEnders. If I got on set I'd photograph the Vic, R&R, Arthur's bench, the Albert Square sign and others... anything that could be used on Wikipedia. I wanted to go to that 25th anniversary exhibition to get a photo of the Queen Vic bust but I wasn't picked for tickets. AnemoneProjectors 23:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Didn't they used to do tours years ago? I heard that they used to and they stopped it because people kept shouting and it was interrupting with filming. That's why I understand, it would be kind of annoying if you were at the crucial point of a scene and someone shouts "Rickaaaaaaayyyyyyy!" When I went in February I was on my bestest behaviour outside in case they did take sympathy and ask me in to see the set but sadly no. Was jealous of my mate though! He owns an EastEnders site and got offered the chance to interview Adam Woodyatt on set in the Queen Vic. When he turned up not only was Adam Woodyatt there but he'd also roped June Brown, Barbara Windsor and Diederick Santer into the interview! --5 albert square (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

(undent) They may have done but not in February 2009, which is when these photos were taken. Is your mate's interview useable in Wikipedia?! One day I'll meet the EastEnders stars. AnemoneProjectors 00:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

It might actually be. I'll have a second look at it. I may also have pictures of Jake Wood, Charlie Clements etc that may be usable. I remember Maisie Smith arriving that day, she waved at everyone then turned round and waved at me specially because I'd waved at her in the first place! Sadly couldn't get a photo though, she was in a car with her mum and had her back to me most of the time :(. It's a trip I might repeat again though --5 albert square (talk) 00:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Can I come with you?! AnemoneProjectors 00:32, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Sure :), remember the last time Jake Wood took the time out to stop in his car and talk to fans which was really nice. Got a couple of photos of him but one not the best as he looks grumpy! Got one of Charlie Clements too, it's not the best but I might see if I can sharpen it up and hopefully we can at least use it as a smaller picture. My mate got nervous taking it and she shook! --5 albert square (talk) 00:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for inviting me to the EastEnders WikiProject, I've been wanting to edit articles for the soap for ages, but i've just got into, as I felt I had to be good, as the articles are fantastic, especially the ones you have created! I would love to join the project, and can't wait to do more editing. :)--AcidBrights (talk) 15:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I really like the work you've done with Kat Moon. We had planned to collaborate on the article to get it up to a good standard before she joined the show but looks like we never really got around to it. I'm currently working on an article for the last weel of episodes, which is shaping up nicely and hopefully will be another GA for the project! :-) AnemoneProjectors 16:50, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Kitten - thought you'd appreciate it :)

--5 albert square (talk) 21:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you :D AnemoneProjectors 21:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome :), by the way I see someone has finally found a reference for when Michael Moon will join EastEnders --5 albert square (talk) 21:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I know. I've known about that source for a while but couldn't be bothered to add it ;-) Am I naughty? AnemoneProjectors 21:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
No, just lazy. :P - JuneGloom07 Talk? 21:45, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Very lazy lol! You also left Peggy Mitchell renamed as Thomas Mitchell before I noticed! Oh that made me laugh! Almost as much as when someone said that Steve McFadden played baby India Napier in Neighbours and when someone managed to marry Morgan Baker off to his school! --5 albert square (talk) 21:54, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
The Peggy thing was because one editor did vandalism, then another did a good edit. I fixed the good edit and missed the vandalism until someone else came along and fixed one instance. Normally if I revert one IP and it reverts to another IP I check that IP's edit as well but in this case it was only a partial revert so I didn't know that another IP had made an edit and I didn't think to check the history. It wasn't deliberate!!! But what made me laugh today was when someone added a death date for Leon Jackson as "just now" lol AnemoneProjectors 22:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah someone did something similar to Dean Gaffney yesterday I noticed. By the way did you know that Simon Cowell is planning to quit as judge of X Factor and Britain's Got Talent :(:(:(? --5 albert square (talk) 22:11, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I saw a story saying he won't quit but might move X Factor to January and BGT to later in the year. But January is when Dancing on Ice is on. There are loads of rumours. Some people have said this year will be the last ever series too. AnemoneProjectors 22:16, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
I dunno about the last ever series, but at the same time I hope he don't move X Factor as I quite like that it's shown over my birthday! I guess we'll just have to wait and see what's decided at the end of this series, maybe if he wins this series it'll have an impact, maybe it'll just make him want to quit on a high. I just get the funny feeling there's more truth to it this year than previous years, dunno why and I hope the music mogul proves me wrong --5 albert square (talk) 23:22, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Leona Lewis's voice

What source is no reliable? Janet Edwards is a vocal coach, and the others are music critics. PersianiMalibran (talk) 14:51, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

It is clearly unreliable because there is no way one quote came from four unrelated people. You have just made it up because you are a sockpuppet of that user who was blocked and I will block you as well now. AnemoneProjectors 16:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Furthermore, I have a concern this person is reproducing opinion pieces under the name of fictional works. The book Leona Lewis: The Life as Fairy Tales (New York: Simon and Schuster) most assuredly does not exist. Wikispan (talk) 19:36, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Of course it doesn't. I missed that. AnemoneProjectors 19:44, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Slightly seperate but thought you'd like to know Leona is up for the Best UK act at the 2010 MOBOs. [11] -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 16:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I'm aware. Has it been added to the list of awards and noms? AnemoneProjectors 16:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I've just added it. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 16:54, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I would have done sooner but I assumed somebody else would do it pretty quickly, and then forgot to check. AnemoneProjectors 16:58, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Its ok. I assumed someone had already done it too. I'm excited lol i want more new music from Leona Lewis. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 17:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Everyone does! The news of the live stuff has created a bit of a buzz on Twitter! AnemoneProjectors 17:04, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Is that where you got the screenshot from? Btw I've managed to expand the source a bit so it looks much better and more like the others. =) -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 19:38, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Björk!

Björk - Hurricane Festival.jpg <font=3> Welcome to WikiProject Björk! I am happy to see that a few people have already joined the project since I started it just two days ago. I strongly encourage you to invite other Wikipedia editors that you know would be interested in participating in this project. If you are familiar with constructing WikiProjects (such as establishing Collaborations, assessing articles, etc.) or Portals, feel free to help! Hopefully we can work together to create some wonderful Björk-related articles as soon as possible!

--Another Believer (Talk) 21:51, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Eastenders images

Hey look at this link on Flikr... here .. Eastenders props, all licenced under creative commons so would be okay to use on wiki. Are they any use to articles? (You are free:* to copy, distribute, display, and perform the work). Btw how do you upload and verify free images from this site? :pRAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 23:59, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Or maybe not okay... just read up on that.. but set pics here, they are fine, it's pat butcher's house..RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 00:06, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

(ec)Unfortunately none of them can be used because they are licenced CC-BY-NC (attribution non-commercial) rather than CC-BY (attribution) or CC-BY-SA (attribution share-alike), which are the two Creative Commons licences that are allowed on Wikipedia. Nice find though. If they had been appropriately licenced for Wikipedia I would have found them already and uploaded several, if not all, to Commons. If I had won a ticket to the exhibition, the photos would already be on here because I always licence my photos CC-BY-SA! It was the only reason I wanted to go, so I could illustrate Wikipedia! The only other thing is that some of them are derivatives of copyrighted material (the photos, possibly others), so those wouldn't really be usable even with the appropriate licence from the photographer. AnemoneProjectors 00:13, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Gillrick's photos are already on Wikimedia Commons - I uploaded them. commons:Category:EastEnders. AnemoneProjectors 00:14, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I've kept reading the upload page for Flickr and do finally understand. It's a shame alot of the photo's are not available for use because there are some cast shots which would have been perfect for casting sections and their actor articles.. Do you ever request that the permissions can be changed? I tried to get some hollyoaks images from Mr. Paparazzi and they didnt even take the wiki template letter seriously lol.RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 19:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
There's a brilliant photo of Lacey Turner uploaded by the the Mental Health Media Awards people. I contacted them to see if they would release it under a free licence but they never got back to me. I did get the very first photo of Leona Lewis on Wikipedia because I contacted the photographer on Flickr, that was back when there weren't many photos of her. This is why I want to go to Elstree – so I can get photos of the cast for Wikipedia. I'm always searching for new photos. AnemoneProjectors 19:56, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
You're so lucky to have those free images of the EE cast members. Out of the current cast of Neighbours, we have one image (which was uploaded by 5asq). Of the past cast (I'm just counting the regulars here), we have twenty and they include the usual suspects; Kylie, Jason Donovan, Alan Dale, Delta Goodrem, Guy Pearce. We do have some free images of the houses and the street that they film in though. I recently found some images of the sets (the hotel, cafe, bar) on Flickr, so I might try to get them released under the right licence. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 13:33, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
A lot of the EastEnders actor images come from Wendy Richard's funeral. It's nice of people to release their work under Wikipedia-compatible licences. With a few exceptions, all my photos are Wikipedia-compatible when I upload them to Flickr. I provided photos for Great Wymondley and Littlehey (HM Prison). Someone even used one of my photos for Cream cracker! It's fun when I discover my own photos have been transfered by other users. AnemoneProjectors 13:53, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Samsung Group (again!)

Hey Anemone!

I'm just looking for a bit of advice. Some of your Wikipedia wisdom to make sure I've got the right end of the stick :)

There's an IP that keeps editing the Samsung Group page to say that Cheil Worldwide have won some industry award. Now I keep taking that edit out of Samsung's page because Cheil Worldwide are not in any way owned by Samsung, they seem to simply use them to do their advertising. I would have therefore thought that any awards etc won by them would belong on Cheil's Wikipedia page and not Samsungs.

However the IP keeps reinserting the information! Despite me saying in the edit summary not to reinsert the information! I've had to revert the page twice now, that's why I'm checking if I've got the correct end of the stick? --5 albert square (talk) 22:39, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I dunno. They've added that Cheil is a subsidiary of Samsung. But I agree the award belongs on Cheil, not Samsung. AnemoneProjectors 23:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah strange that, I looked up linkedin and on their page there they called Samsung a "client" which kind of indicates that they're not related. Strange, I've been employed by Samsung for nearly 4 years now and I didn't know that we'd acquired an advertising company along the way! I've left it for now as it's not worth arguing over but I think I'll give the article a thorough clean up tomorrow, then I'll decide whether or not it stays. Thanks for the advice - didn't think I'd got the wrong end of the stick lol! Hope you're well :) --5 albert square (talk) 00:26, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I am well thanks  :-) by the way I sent you off-wiki mail earlier (via Wikipedia obv) so check your email. AnemoneProjectors 00:29, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Sam's Image

Okay Anemone, check out Sam Micthell's image. Very good imo. Do you agree? --GSorbyDesroid 19:42, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes that one is nice, but is it just me or is it slightly stretched? AnemoneProjectors 19:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
No? I can't see no stretch. You must be imagining it! :D. Oh and will you be deleting the old revisions? They're really bugging me just having about 4 of the same image -.- --GSorbyDesroid 20:01, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Not stretched but squashed. Her face looks squashed. Must be the angle. Plus she does have a squashy face anyway!!! Yes I will delete them all AnemoneProjectors 20:14, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Queen Vic fire


Do you reckon we can use anything from this interview with Rona McKendrick to The Queen Victoria? Wasn't wanting to give the fire undue weight :) --5 albert square (talk) 21:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm working on an article for the fire episodes so I wouldn't worry about undue weight. It's rather long but I will read it and hopefully use it in my article. But we could expand on the Queen Vic's article regarding the fire though I don't know if it's possible to expand on anything else. It might be undue weight if we can't. AnemoneProjectors 21:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I've added it's own subsection under the storylines. I wasn't going to but then I kind of thought that it's marking the end of an era so it's probably worthy of it's own subsection. You might be able to get a DYK out of your article if you mention that there were nearly 45 crew members involved in filming the fire scenes --5 albert square (talk) 22:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I thought the power cut would be a good DYK. Have you seen my draft? I discussed it a lot with User:Frickative on her talk page too AnemoneProjectors 22:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah sorry, I never understand that in and out of universe thing :)
Oh yes, the power cut would be a good DYK - I knew there was another suggestion I forgot! No I've not seen your draft of it --5 albert square (talk) 22:32, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Well go have a look then lol (I'm sure you can find it easily) AnemoneProjectors 22:49, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't even know where to start looking lol --5 albert square (talk) 23:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I just found Queen Vic fire week lol. Being dopey tonight :) --5 albert square (talk) 23:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
lol it's in my contributions ;-) good innit? i need more reception though. AnemoneProjectors 23:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes, it is good. I just changed a tiny bit in it, you put that Pat felt betrayed by Pat, I think you meant Janine felt betrayed by Pat! --5 albert square (talk) 23:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I had rearranged the plot a few times, that's why I hadn't inserted the word Janine. I thought you meant I wrote the words "Pat feels betrayed by Pat". AnemoneProjectors 23:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

(undent) It's probably full of errors by the way. I type "eposide" a lot, which Frickative just corrected. And when I type quickly I always type the wrong character name, or gender (she instead of he, girlfriend instead of boyfriend, brother instead of sister). For example, when I do the episode synopses for E20, I type it as I watch... and keep typing the wrong names lol ooh I need to watch episode 4!!! AnemoneProjectors 23:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Lol I do that sometimes! I just re-watched Peggy's last scenes on Youtube again, so sad! I get the feeling that when she gave the Queen Vic one last look the tears were for real, no acting required. I know Babs took some time out to spend time with her husband but I really hope she does return in 2012 like she says she wants to. Loved the music that was used but I hope that they don't use that version of Julia's theme again, that should remain solely for the end of that era. --5 albert square (talk) 00:00, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
They won't use it again because it's specifically "Peggy's Theme". Have you downloaded it? It's on iTunes, the full version. Barbara has said in recent interviews that when she said she wanted to leave, they offered her a year or two off but she said she would always be thinking of returning, so wanted to make a clean break. I don't think she'll return in 2012. It wasn't just to spend more time with Scott but she said that her whole life had become EastEnders, she brought Peggy home every day. They started working Saturdays too which gave her less time, and even on her days off she was busy learning lines. Scott noticed she wasn't the same person anymore so she needed to leave. If you can find them, watch her recent interviews from This Morning and Loose Women (LW was Thursday, TM was Monday I think, or Tuesday). Unless you've seen them of course. AnemoneProjectors 00:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh no I've not downloaded it to iTunes, didn't realise they had it. It will be a shame if she doesn't return in 2012, I had hoped to see her back in the Vic one day :( --5 albert square (talk) 00:40, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Don't you follow the news, or read the EastEnders theme tune page, or anything? Or even look at the "Theme music" section of my draft? lol, it's called "Peggy's Theme", the one by Simon May. It came out last Saturday. AnemoneProjectors 00:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Lol, I will try and download it this weekend :) --5 albert square (talk) 00:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Only if you want to lol but it's also on Amazon if you prefer, maybe elsewhere too. Go to the Peggy's theme website (link on my draft or theme tune page) AnemoneProjectors 00:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Kat Moon

I'm still sorting the article out, but I was just wondering if you've got any ideas on how we can split it up into sections like other articles, so its got a specific title to each part of the article like in development and creation?--AcidBrights (talk) 16:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, the only possibility I can see is to split development into smaller sections, though I'm not sure what title you could use for the first part including her maternity leave and departure, but for her return it could just be "2010 return". Frickative is good at that kind of thing. AnemoneProjectors 16:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, you could have "2005 departure" and "2010 return", but then you're stuck with the first few sentences that don't belong. Maybe for the moment you could just have the "2010 return" subsection, and then when there's more development on her early years, re-asses where the natural breaks are. (On a related note, can't wait for tonight's episode!) Frickative 17:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
My edit summary worked! But yeah that was kind of what I was thinking about, just have one subsection for the return. I think Kat will only be in tonight's episode at the very end - that's my feeling anyway. She'll get the duff duffs. AnemoneProjectors 17:08, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Wow, I'm so glad shes back! And thats a good idea about the subsection! :)--AcidBrights (talk) 19:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Déjà vu?

Hi! since you helped me copy-editing Forgive Me (Leona Lewis song), I was wondering if you could do the same for Better in Time, it was suggested at the PR for make it. Beforehand thank you. TbhotchTalk C. 04:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

I didn't realise you had requested a peer review. I will have a look. By the way I agree that the credits should only be for the song "Better in Time" because the article is about that song, not the other songs. "Footprints in the Sand" has its own article anyway. AnemoneProjectors 11:59, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
By the way, Better in Time wasn't used by Sport Relief, only Footprints was. AnemoneProjectors 12:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh but even though that is the case, I am trying to find a reference to say proceeds from the single went to the charity, as that is relevant to Better in Time. AnemoneProjectors 12:57, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Another thing is I don't believe that the album's booklet discusses the meaning of the song, so "Lyrically the song talks about someone who cannot forget her ex-partner, and at the end the protagonist knows that 'it will all get better in time'." is probably original research, which is unfortunate. AnemoneProjectors 13:40, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Since the lyrics are in the booklet I believe that WP:FILMPLOT would apply, though this is not a movie, a synopsis no need a source since the chourus says "Thought I couldn't live without you/ it's gonna hurts when it heals too/ it'll all get better in time" TbhotchTalk C. 23:09, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Hmm I'm not sure. I understand that WP:FILMPLOT and WP:MOSTV both say you don't necessarily have to include references for the plot, as the film/tv show/episode is the reference, but I don't know if it can apply to song lyrics. Maybe it can when it's obvious, though a lot of songs are quite cryptic! In this case it's pretty straightforward. AnemoneProjectors 23:26, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

US X Factor

Hi, how are you? I hope you dont mind but I've had a go at copy editing the judges section of the article. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 18:51, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine thanks. Why would I mind? AnemoneProjectors 18:57, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I dont know some people have a strange obsession with articles they've started or edited. LOL. I thought things were due an update. I guess according to the most recent info availbale Cole and Scherzinger are confirmed .... -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 19:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I reckon the rest of the speculation can be removed now three of the four judges are confirmed. Or just say there was speculation surrounding these people and keep it brief. Well I do have a strange obsession about some articles - you'll know because I tidy up after everyone else who edits them lol. But not that one. Plus, I trust your edits implicitly. AnemoneProjectors 19:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I guess once a final judge is confirmed I will stream line the section much more and modify the remaining information on the current judges. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:55, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Yep good idea AnemoneProjectors 21:06, 18 September 2010 (UTC)


I keep making EE mistakes sorry. That agency website obviously made a mistake calling her pearl.. You'd think they'd get to know their clients works a little better. I was on Digitalspy, on thread about twitter I ended up finding your twitter, random. So many EE tweets, you like it's biggest fan much. :)RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 20:54, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

the BB tweets thread? I haven't posted to the soaps tweets thread yet. I guess it wasn't your EE mistake. I thought it was true until I remembered it was her second EastEnders role, which I only remembered seconds before I started to type that reply. I was going to write a different reply. Yes I am very tweety about EastEnders! Follow me and I'll follow you back :) AnemoneProjectors 21:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
On the soaps one, you tweeted one of the ppl and I was like that user name is familiar... I'm following ya its R-bam... Is Sam leaving then again? She's getting on my nerves now. lolRAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 21:57, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh right yes, the guy who started the thread is one of my contacts on twitter. I shall look out for you. Yes Sam was only back temporarily anyway but she is appearently leaving tomorrow along with Minty. AnemoneProjectors 22:03, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Promise This

We don't add the '2010 Songs' category until the single is released. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Why not? It's a 2010 song, and "Upcoming singles" isn't a subcategory of "2010 singles", and nothing is mentioned at Wikipedia:SONGS#Categories. AnemoneProjectors 20:10, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Whenever I've added it, its always been removed by other users, citing that songs appearing in the 2010 singles category should only be those that have actually been released and that it is incorrect and over catagorised to use both 'upcoming' and '2010' -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
btw... do you think I created the page too soon? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:22, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Well I disagree with these "other users" - has there been a discussion about it? "Overcategorisation" doesn't mean an article is in too many categories. And no, I think you have proved the song already passes WP:GAN. AnemoneProjectors 20:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Personally I'm not fussed either way. So I'll happily add it back. Oh goody... its good to have a second opinion. I was skeptical that's why I thought I'd leave it a few more days to see if it got more coverage. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
If you think the category should be there and there's been no actual discussion or consensus then just add it :-) It's annoying when people keep creating stubs for unreleased singles so it's nice to see there is enough information out there for a viable article. Having said that, I kept Please Don't Let Me Go in my userspace until it was released, rather than when it charted, when it probably wasn't notable yet, but I just didn't want someone else to do it!!! lol AnemoneProjectors 20:40, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Lol, that's kind of why I created the article now... Cus i was sure that it was at least kind of notable and that it would be better to have that than someone's shoddy attempt at creating a crap version. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:56, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Colin John Mackenzie

Hello - I was interested to see that you had put Colin John Mackenzie into the Hertfordshire wiki-project and was wondering what his Hertfordshire connection is.45ossington (talk) 06:52, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm tagging everything in a subcategory of Category:Hertfordshire but I realised some articles may be inappropriate. However, I see Colin John Mackenzie is in Category:Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire Regiment officers, so that's why. At WT:HERTS I asked if we wanted articles for people who aren't necessarily from Hertfordshire but they said yes, anyone with a connection (so it also includes people who attended a university in Hertfordshire or people who played for a Hertfordshire football team). AnemoneProjectors 11:39, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


This is my 75,000th edit on English Wikipedia!!!! Congratulations, me! AnemoneProjectors 22:40, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

That's a massive achievement.!!! well done sir/madam! I've racked up 24,304 edits in just under two years. How long have you been active? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 22:44, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
About 2 and a half years. AnemoneProjectors 22:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh and it's definitely not madam lol. And thanks! AnemoneProjectors 22:58, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
EEK! You're definately a veteran now then! well done nevertheless. Oh right... sorry, I didn't know if it was madam or sir, Sir it is then! -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 22:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Linda Henry

OK, added more references now. Can I take the tag off the article yet or do yet more references need to be found? --5 albert square (talk) 00:01, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Welllllll there are still unreferenced things... also references go after punctuation :-) AnemoneProjectors 00:10, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh I always forget that they go after punctuation! As for unreferenced things, I think I'll remove the part about her being diabetic. When I was doing a google search for something else it came up that Cheryl Fergison had said on the Paul O'Grady show when she was on with Linda that Cheryl was diabetic. I think people may have got confused from that. As for her daughters name, I really don't know how we can reference that so I might just take that out too. --5 albert square (talk) 00:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
Right, should be ok now as I've found a reference backing up her diabetes (one that doesn't rely on Wikipedia as a source!) and re-worded the sentence about her daughter. OK to remove it now? --5 albert square (talk) 00:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Yeah it's definitely Cheryl who has diabetes, not Linda. I guess the TV credits, though specifically unreferenced, are backed up by the IMDb link. AnemoneProjectors 00:27, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Adding project banners

Hi, re this edit and similar; there is no need for a blank line between project banners - indeed the normal practice is to place project banners on consecutive lines. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I know but AWB automatically leaves a blank line and deleting it is pretty tedious so I stopped bothering most of the time. The space doesn't cause any harm. AnemoneProjectors 10:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Grace Olubunmi

I saw you said you love this picture! So you don't ever want it replaced? :) --GSorbyDesroid 20:27, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Lol well there's probably gonna be no need. But I love the character and I love the way she dresses, and I think you captured it perfectly. AnemoneProjectors 20:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
She's one of may favourites too (followed by Glenda!), It took me ages to get that as iplayer kept jumping! Grr! --GSorbyDesroid 20:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not a big fan of Glenda but she's improved since Danny left. My favourites are Grace, Mercy and Fatboy. AnemoneProjectors 20:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh I can't forget Vanessa and Jodie lol! ANyway, I cam to ask, why is Harry Gold marked down as Recurring? I thought we didn't downgrade like that? --GSorbyDesroid 21:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
I also love Jodie. Harry was never a regular so we haven't downgraded him from regular to recurring. Do you think we should refer to him as a regular? I don't think he is. AnemoneProjectors 21:41, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Well to be honest, yes. He should be a regular. He hasn't appeared any more than Grace and he's probably gonna be in it more often now he's back with Vanessa? --GSorbyDesroid 21:46, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes he's about as regular as Grace. Thing is I'm not sure either of them are on contracts because neither of them were properly announced. But Grace is likely to appear as long as Mercy does, and Harry probably as long as Vanessa and Jodie though he does live outside London (as does Vanessa) and I'm not sure how they will keep Vanessa coming back now... so ok, change him to regular. If anyone else disagrees, it can be brought up on the appropriate talk page. AnemoneProjectors 21:56, 29 September 2010 (UTC)


Hey there AnemoneProjectors, I am totally, about the whole Queen Vic thing, Alfie, bought The Vic right??, so how can he be leasing it off Phil, technically in my book Him and Kat, are the legal owners of The Vic...... or am I missing something???? —Dweeby123 (talk) 12:26, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

He said he bought it but it turned out he wanted Kat to think he bought it when he is only renting it. The money he used must have been a deposit. Phil is still the owner. AnemoneProjectors 12:39, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Alfie made out to Kat that he had indeed bought The Vic, however he hasn't. As Kat found out the other night, Phil still owns The Vic and she and Alfie lease it from him. Therefore Phil is still the legal owner :) --5 albert square (talk) 12:38, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh I see, I get it now, cheers for thats ;) —Dweeby123 (talk) 14:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

EE Relatives (Shown or Not)

A lot of people in 'Enders tons have relatives who have never appeared, nor will, What's so different about the Moons? The Information came from a submitted family tree which is more or less a copy of the one that existed on the BBC website yonks ago, What's wrong with it?Conquistador2k6 2 October 2010, 23:41

There's nothing wrong with it, but there was a discussion some months ago where we agreed we would trim down the relatives in the infoboxes to only those who were important to that particular character, so if someone's grandfather never appeared on screen, they get removed. If their uncle did, but not at the same time as that particular character, then they also get removed. The only exceptions are parents, siblings and children - we will always include them whether they appeared or not. AnemoneProjectors 22:45, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Víctor Martínez (bodybuilder)

He's not dead. And if he is, please provide a source.

I'm not the one who said he was dead. AnemoneProjectors 11:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
he isn't dead, can you please fix the article? Clear cut case of vandalism
I've already fixed it. I checked and realised it wasn't true. By the way if you want your IP address to remain hidden I suggest you create an account. AnemoneProjectors 12:22, 3 October 2010 (UTC)


I agree that there are too many, actually. I like the idea of a simple, color-coded mentor bar. But I don't think we need "safe" "safe/highest votes", etc.. Would love to combine forces and discuss options. ^_^ Mind if I see your chart?--Cinemaniac86Dane_Cook_Hater_Extraordinaire 23:29, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi. The problem is that the table needs to conform to the new accessibility guidelines. I'm not 100% on them but User:Lil-unique1 is quite good at knowing what needs to be done. I think the main points are using less colour (which is why last year I removed the safe colour) and I'm not sure but maybe not using small text. It has to be easy to read - especially for screen readers, colour blind people, etc, and also easy to edit. I think we'll get it right eventually. I don't think we need the colour-coded mentor bar, because it repeats information in the table above, which is why I removed it when last year's table was set up. I have set up an example in my sandbox User:AnemoneProjectors/sandbox. I tried not to use small text for the elimination, but Rebecca Fergusson's name is so long that it wraps. I tried {{nowrap}} but it makes the column very wide. AnemoneProjectors 23:40, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Image Restore

Hello Anemone. I was wondering if your not busy, could you temporarily restore Gungadin's latest File:Lauren branning.jpg please? Thanks --GSorbyDesroid: (Contribs!) 19:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

 Done AnemoneProjectors 20:02, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Yep I've finished cropping and uploading, you may re-delete. Because that image is more "Lauren" in my opinion, Thanks! --GSorbyDesroid: (Contribs!) 20:06, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
If I knew you were going to do that I wouldn't have restored it to be the current version lol AnemoneProjectors 20:14, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

User:Pirce Nicholson

Nice catch recognising this Hoaxster's MO! Fribbler (talk) 21:23, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I've added some of the articles he creates to my watchlist, and one popped up today, and then via his contributions, I found another two sockpuppets! AnemoneProjectors 21:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Shirley Carter

Hey there AnemoneProjectors, Just wondered is it all right for me to add "Businesswoman" to Shirley's occupation list, as if i'm right in thinking doesn't she co-own/own The Archers, because correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't Phil declared bankrupt - last year??, so if i'm right in saying this, if someone is declared bankrupt they cannot own a business for I think it's roughly 5 years, I'm not too sure (as I've never been there!!; praise the lord), but does he own or does she, I don't know - Jesus EastEnders, it's all drama at that place!! isn't it but I'm sure she put some money in it as well?? so she would have a what 10, 20, 30% stake in it, I really don't know my parents won't watch "EE" so I have to catch up on BBC Three., and totally lost with storylines :(!!

I don't recall Phil being declared bankrupt at all, and I don't think Shirley owns any part of the Arches because she got a loan and bought it for Phil - she didn't put any of her own money in because she has no money. Though as is typical with soap operas, the finer details are never mentioned, so we don't really know. It's like people out of work never claim benefits (unless there is a specific storyline where they are discovered to be a benefits thief), and people starting work never have a P46 or a P45 and can be sacked or quit on the spot without any notice... they don't seem to even pay taxes :-) AnemoneProjectors 17:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Do you know what you're sooooo right, You've just hit the nail of the fecking head there, you really have and have made my day in the process :–) —Dweeby123 (talk) 18:00, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah, the point I forgot to make was that even if Phil was made bankrupt (which I'm sure he wasn't), it wouldn't stop the writers giving him his own business. Stuff like that is often forgotten. AnemoneProjectors 18:11, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh God, Yeah the writer's think we're stupid, well sorry writers we know everything lol :) —Dweeby123 (talk) 18:14, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
lol calm down and have a look at retroactive continuity. Sometimes a past storyline doesn't suit a present one. But I'm still sure Phil wasn't bankrupt. AnemoneProjectors 18:28, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Björk

Hey! Be sure to add the WikiProject Björk home/talk page to your watchlist. Hopefully participants can start working on articles and other tasks together! --Another Believer (Talk) 16:00, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Hopefully! Already on my watchlist since I joined... bit busy with my other WikiProjects at the moment though :( AnemoneProjectors 16:38, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Category:EastEnders stubs

Hi, I've reverted your addition of {{popstub}} to this category again as there are no more EastEnders stubs. The majority of the pages that were stubs have been expanded or merged to lists of characters. AnemoneProjectors 12:16, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. Sounds like its lost its need for a separate category. Typically, we try not to have stub categories with less than roughly 60 articles. Yes, as you can see from the Category:underpopulated stub categories, such things exist. But they are discouraged, and efforts may be made to propose deletion for such categories. Dawynn (talk) 17:46, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps it should be nominated for merging with Category:Soap opera character stubs. WikiProject EastEnders has another maintenance category, Category:EastEnders articles in need of real-world perspective, so we can still keep an eye on things. AnemoneProjectors 17:54, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Outta This World

Why are you still deleting the page, the album name + cover is confirmed they confirmed some songs too for the album so please dont delete you can atleast help me with some reference, thanks bye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PokerFace3 (talkcontribs) 13:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Because the entire tracklist should be confirmed along with the album name and cover, not just some of the songs. AnemoneProjectors 13:48, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


If a source is desperately wanted, than here:

This website, (a reliable one) says that Katy Perry & Diana Vickers will be performing. EXACTLY AS I SAID!!! I can also quote Dermot O'Leary; (O'Leary, D. "The X Factor" 10/10/10). Whichever you prefer. I am not here to be a nusense, instead expand articles. I didn't realise that someone here believes they own Wikipedia and wants to cause extra havoc, but then again, why would I when I've been a member for a long while now.

Hopefully you will see the above links and see that they are a RELIABLE SOURCE - as YOU wanted!!!

THANKS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by ImanAtwal (talkcontribs) 23:13, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

That's not a reliable source, I have found them to publish many erroneous articles in the past. AnemoneProjectors 23:19, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
I didn't realise O'Leary said it on the show though. I will revert myself. AnemoneProjectors 23:24, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

About List of Family Guy Characters - Citizens of Quahog

Hello my friend, I was the one who change Portuguese to Brazilian. Due to the fact that I am Portuguese from Portugal and know all the Portugueses dialects, Santos and Pasqual from Family Guy are referred as Portuguese wrongly, because in fact they are Brazilian, as I recognise Brazilian accent. Unfortunately it is a fact error from Family Guy. Since wikipedia only transmits the truth it should be put as Brazilian. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your concern. The thing is, if they are referenced as Portuguese in the show, we have to say they are Portuguese. See also Wikipedia's page about original research. AnemoneProjectors 21:06, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok sorry my mistake. Thanks for your concern. However I feel sad to see my people (Portuguese) being wrongly shown, as they aren't.

Oh well, guess I'll have to be under the rules of Wikipedia. Thank you for everything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:43, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

That's ok. I watched another episode yesterday where Peter employed them on his boat and he said "they're Portuguese". AnemoneProjectors 19:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


for catching that. My work PC has developed a nasty habit of pasting random crap into the edit box. Still haven't figured out why :( --Errant [tmorton166] (chat!) 16:01, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I knew you didn't mean to do it :-) AnemoneProjectors 16:08, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Comment out vs. removal

I understand your intent, but I think it's rather unlikely these characters would be spun out into their own articles, especially within a seven day window. Many of the characters appeared long ago in the series, and there's little or no references to support their notability outside of in-universe references. So, forgive me, but I'm just not seeing the point of commenting them rather than removal. Is there another point I'm missing here? Btw, the first cat in your editnotice is hysterical :) --Hammersoft (talk) 19:47, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I know it's unlikely in seven days, but as a "serius admnin" I can restore if ever it happens, after seven days or seven decades. Well, in seven decades I'll be 101, so probably retired from here by then. But you never know. Very unlikely that the articles will be split off but... anything can happen in soapland, they could all be brought back! I've sent you a reply on WT:EE as well. AnemoneProjectors 19:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh and thanks for being the very first person to comment on my editnotice!!! AnemoneProjectors 19:57, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

What happened to scope col/ scope row.

Recently the CSS code for wikipedia was updated. And its led to two changes:

  1. | scope="row"| is now considered redundent (or at least discouraged).
  2. the first column of any row must use ! scope="row"|, the most important peice of information e.g. name of the act goes in this column. Also to improve readability and legibility this first column automatically aligns left as many of the developers who work for wikipedia are fed up with all the style mark-ups being used. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 12:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
So it's never going to align center? That's actually stupid. If I ever used | scope="row"| instead of ! scope="row"| understand that it was an error, I know that it should be ! scope="row"|. AnemoneProjectors 12:43, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
It also looks wrong having the act name first rather than the number in the performances table (and losing the colour of the act name). But rules are rules. AnemoneProjectors 12:44, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Is there a discussion about this in? I looked in the most obvious places... AnemoneProjectors 12:48, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
yup there was a discussion here. As you can see there were a lot of different views but in general it was seen as the best move. The reason why I move the act before the order is for the screen readers. You see the whole point of ! scope="row"| and ! scope="col"| is to direct the screen reader and also users in general. It formats the table in such a way that you understand that you have to read the columns and the row. The ! scope="row"| in particular puts emphasis on whatever appears in the first column. See WP:DISCOGSTYLE where the date has be moved to after the title of the song. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 13:01, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
It all makes perfect sense. I noticed the date move at the time the discog tables were first updated. Left aligned text looks better in the singles table but to me it looks a little bit odd in the albums one, and in the X Factor tables. But that's probably because the singles table always had the singles left aligned, but the album title being split from the album details is new. And although in The X Factor article the names used to be left aligned (see previous series), it kind of looks better when everything is aligned the same. I would suggest removing style="text-align:center;" but I still think the order column should be centred. Shame we can't get it how we really want it. Not many people are going to like it but it's tough! AnemoneProjectors 13:11, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Quicky question, does this mean that all tables should use ! scope="row"|? AnemoneProjectors 16:47, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Yup. Be it release history, charts etc. whatever it is. Hmm... well i know what you're saying about centre alignment but people dislike the use of the alignment on individual columns. I personally won't mind or have an issue with you doing that if you wish, but others might =) -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 17:14, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Every table? Is it allowed to be | scope="row"| though? Because in many cases it's just not appropriate. Something like List of EastEnders characters (2010)#Others is fine, I can just put the character name in the first column, but I don't see it being necessary in List of EastEnders characters, especially where there are only two columns. The character's name isn't really a row header, it's just an entry the same as the actor's name. AnemoneProjectors 17:24, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Another thing is I went to User:AnemoneProjectors/List of EastEnders cast members to do the changes in my userspace draft but I realised it actually made the page less accessible for editing. It just really complicated things. AnemoneProjectors 17:27, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Of course in the interim you can use | scope="row"| for now (I don't know how long for now is lol). Using it is better than not using it at all but there will come a point in the future when all tables will have to conform to ! scope="row"|. You're a sensible and knowledgable editor, you can be trusted to make the appropriate judgements. However use it with caution e.g. the list of eastenders characters but not with X Factor tables. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 18:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Absolutely. I might go a bit stroppy at times lol but I understand what has to be done. I've already changed List of EastEnders characters (2010)#Others. AnemoneProjectors 18:41, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

With regards to using small text for the summary table at The X Factor (UK) the table is actually in breach of WP:ACCESS for the very reasons of small text. Only one form of emphasis should be used e.g. bold text but not bold text and size. But that's a matter for another day, don't worry yourself about that just yet. Considering that small text has been used already for that table it would be better in the meantime to use <span style="font-size:85%;"></span> tags as opposed to the usual small text tags. I'll get back to you with other suggested improvements for the table. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 18:31, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

lol not too bothered about that article just yet. The hard of seeing can wait lol. And it's not like the article already follows every guildeline, WP:ACCESS is just another guideline for the majority of articles to ignore :) AnemoneProjectors 18:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
LOL you didnt see or here me laughing in agreement there! =) well actually the point of the message was that if you're going to use small tags at all its preferred to use Span ones to do it instead. 85% is the maximum reduction allowed. Eventually the code for small tags will automatically be updated. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 18:53, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
What % reduction does a small tag make? AnemoneProjectors 18:58, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Have we decided not to add the performers of the group performances? i.e. the original artist - "Telephone" (Lady Gaga ft. Beyonce)? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 22:07, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Do you think they're necessary? I asked and got one reply and removed them, but they're probably less necessary than the original performers of the actual songs that are judged. AnemoneProjectors 22:17, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
You're right they're probably not required. They have little impact on the show and are not related to the theme necessarily. I just wondered if they were intentially removed or accidently lost during all the reverting lol. I dont suppose you know who's performing next week? (we can assume Cole because her single is due out next sunday) -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 22:34, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Someone wrote who was going to be on but I removed it as unreferenced. One was Cole, can't remember the other. Might have been true. It's somewhere in the edit history... AnemoneProjectors 22:47, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh, Cheryl Cole and Rihanna is what they said... AnemoneProjectors 22:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Ah it would make sense since both their singles are out on Sunday however Rihanna was never linked to this year's show in any of the rumours or blogs. hmmm... -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 22:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
We'll find out soon enough anyway. AnemoneProjectors 23:20, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

An image

Hi Anemone, I noticed on 1990jor's talk page you asked where this came from. I dunno if you've ever been to the EastEnders set, but when I went there this was in front of the main gate, so I'm sure thats what it is :-) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 19:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I wanted to know if he took it or found it somewhere, rather than where it was taken, but thanks anyway. AnemoneProjectors 20:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

IP Address

Anemone. I noticed the edits on Blossom Jackson and some other edits. That's my IP address, but it's not me doing it :O --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 19:36, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I know nothing about IP addresses... Are you sure it's yours? If you log out and go to Special:MyContributions, do those edits appear? AnemoneProjectors 19:46, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Phew! The edits do not appear :-) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 19:51, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Must be an IP that's similar to yours but not yours. Is that why you thought it was yours? AnemoneProjectors 19:54, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes! I got one digit wrong :P BTW! Have a look at this! SHall I update Jodie and Harry's profile or do we wait until the episode? --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 20:01, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Someone removed Harry from Jodie's infobox and vice versa but I reverte it as unreferenced, though I did wonder if they had read something. It's very unlike the BBC to post spoilers like that! We normally update infoboxes when we know something... but you can't reference something that isn't there... AnemoneProjectors 20:12, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh I know how to solve it. AnemoneProjectors 20:15, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


Hi AP. I see that you proposed an alternative theory for the master behind this account. I'm not familiar with the MO of The Twelfth Doctor, but only too well with User:Daveygp. His usual socks bear the names of soap actors/characters, in this case Bradley Branning, and the edit pattern certainly fits like, well, a sock. No big deal, as long as he's blocked. Best, Favonian (talk) 13:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I wondered from the username if it was The Twelfth Doctor since he's had usernames named after Archie Mitchell and The Queen Victoria. I also reckon User:Chryed might have been him but that account wasn't blocked. These are all names connected to EastEnders. I've not heard of User:Daveygp but it wouldn't surprise me if they were all the same user and when Daveygp was investigated, nothing about The Twelfth Doctor was known or discovered. AnemoneProjectors 13:35, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for enlightening me. This opens a whole new dimension in sockpuppet investigation. I'll explore the possibilities for a "grand unified SPI". Cheers, Favonian (talk) 13:38, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Sometimes I wonder if several puppetmasters are the same person. What normally happens if something like that is found out? I've been blocking socks of User:Jake Picasso but there are apparently two other connected accounts that are listed as puppetmasters. AnemoneProjectors 14:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

IP vandal query

Hi Anemone, I'm seeking a little of your modly wisdom if you please! Do you know if there's anything that can be done about a vandal persistently IP jumping? There's an editor that's been misusing the Lip Service (TV series) talk page for the past week now (history - every single edit by an IP there is the same user) and he's even said in his ramblings "Stop deleting this. I have a randomly assigned IP so I will just continue to do this or set up a script/app to automatically undo it's removal." But as s/he is IP jumping, they only pick up one or two warnings before hopping to a fresh contrib history. I'm wondering, 1. Can they be reported at AIV regardless? and 2. Is there even any way a block can be made to stick with such a user? Sorry if these are dumb questions, I didn't know who or where else I could ask! :) Frickative 18:19, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh god, I'm no good with IP addresses! I'm not sure blocking an IP would work as they'd just come back, you could try AIV as someone with more experience on that kind of thing might know better. I could semi-protect the talk page as well for a while. AnemoneProjectors 18:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
-headkeyboard- I didn't even consider semi-protection - that would almost certainly be the easiest way of stopping them, seeing as it seems to be the only page they're editing. A few days protection would be great, thank you, and then if it starts up again I'll try AIV and see if there's anything more than can be done. Thanks for your help! :D Frickative 18:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Semi-protected for 7 days (i think). Now back to EastEnders :-) AnemoneProjectors 18:48, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks a lot AP! :D Gah, that was a good episode but I really really hate Carol ¬_¬. Frickative 19:00, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Yeah she's not being very nice lately. AnemoneProjectors 19:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
And poor Morgan never got to eat his sandwich. That was my kind of sandwich lol AnemoneProjectors 19:06, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

possibly unfree discussion

Hi, as you commented here User_talk:SitDownOnIt, I have opened a discussion here, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 22:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll keep an eye on it and probably comment soon. AnemoneProjectors 22:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks (Nana Moon)

I didn't know that :) JustHaveStandards (talk) 23:18, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, you're welcome. AnemoneProjectors 23:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Wiki said i should contact you because i was about to add a page which has been deleted apparently

Hi, I went to add a page about a new band and wiki said that you deleted it? so i think i need to contact you first before adding it. the band is called say it forever. theyre only new but they have done a few acoustic gigs around sydney which i thought were amazing! i found their myspace page and realised they've only just started out pretty recently. I was hoping i could post some info up about the band that i found on their website if that was ok. their website is They have a really nice acoustic song on their myspace aswell that you should listen to aswell =] Thanks in advance! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Letterstolovenotes (talkcontribs) 11:30, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for getting in touch. The reason I deleted it is because somebody felt the band weren't notable, and the previous version of the page did not establish their notability. You can start the page again but I would have a read of WP:MUSICBIO and see if they fit any of the criteria there. If not, I would wait. If they're a new band, they probably don't fit the criteria just yet. I hope this helps. AnemoneProjectors 12:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

sorry to leave another new message! im still not used to using wikipedia at all. thanks for responding =] They have only just started out, at their last gig they did say that they were going to bring out an EP soon and are also going on an east coast tour as a support band. i did read what the guidlines are but some of it seems a little far fetched. Is there anyway you and I could work something out to get a bio up about them? i just really feel like they deserve it. It seems like theyre going to get pretty popular around sydney pretty soon. at least thats my opinion anyway. I'm hoping you agree =] and I just heard that theyre doing a show next week which im going too =D They really are a telented band! but im sure a lot of people say that. I hope you can help out. Thankyou! Chels —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmm I wouldn't really be interested in doing it myself but you go ahead. It might get tagged for deletion again though, unfortunately. AnemoneProjectors 13:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Occleve - well, really! Polite request

Dear Anemone, We have encountered each other before when editing Rhydian. As I understand you are an administrator (hope I have remembered that correctly) I'm asking you to alter the title of an article on Wikipedia. Mediaeval poetry may not be your thing, but here goes . . . There's an article entitled Thomas Occleve. There is probably a Redirect (or there should be) under Thomas Hoccleve. The title Occleve is ridiculous. He's universally known as Hoccleve (check the Web; ask any English mediaeval lit. teacher).

Even more illogically, he's referred to as Hoccleve throughout the article. So the title is an anomaly. Please could you retitle the article "Thomas Hoccleve" and make a Redirect from "Thomas Occleve"?

Many thanks, and best wishes from FClef (talk) 09:22, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I've done it but you could have actually moved it yourself. At the top of the page is a "move" tab. If the page you want to move to doesn't exist or is a redirect that hasn't been edited since it was made a redirect, or the page you want to move isn't move-protected, you can move it. Otherwise you can request a move either by tagging the redirect {{db-move}} or at WP:REQMOVE. See Help:Moving a page for more info. AnemoneProjectors 12:52, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the much-needed fix on Ruth Langsford

Thanks for fixing the last of the User:Dweeby123 over-eager edits on the Ruth Langsford/"Ruth Holmes" mess. I had confirming telecon & email from Ruth's agents (she hasn't changed either her legal or on-air name), but wasn't savvy enough to try the needed page & talkspace moves (and any subsequently needed redirects) myself. No published accounts existed to back up the young Manx's "scoop" after Ruth's late-June marriage, but it was futile trying to deal with him and his constant "rv vandalism" Twinkle edits on his favorite Brit/Irish TV pages. Hope he finds a new hobby. — DennisDallas (talk) 10:20, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

I didn't even realise it was a Dweeby123 page move, I just came across the page the other day and instantly knew it was wrong so moved it back. I was looking her up because she said "fuck" the other day on This Morning :-) AnemoneProjectors 10:58, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Redirect query

Hi, I'm new on Wikipedia. I created a page earlier, but I think you removed it and redirected to a different page. Please could you let me know why this is? Many thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Winkamon (talkcontribs) 16:39, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I redirected your article Brian Badonde to Facejacker because the character isn't notable, so should be covered in the list of characters (where he already is). There's more about notability of fictional characters at Wikipedia:Notability (fiction). AnemoneProjectors 17:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your response and the link. I wasn't sure whether to add the extra information on a new page or not, but looked at other TV comedy characters e.g. Vicky Pollard and they had their own page so I thought I should do that! So would I be able to add extra info to the character section on the Facejacker page? Many thanks (Winkamon (talk) 11:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC))
Yes you can add the information to the character section there :-) AnemoneProjectors 12:31, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

It's Halloween!!

Caramel Peanut Candy Apples 2592px.jpg
5 albert square has given you some caramel and a candy apple! Caramel and candy-coated apples are fun Halloween treats, and promote WikiLove on Halloween. Hopefully these have made your Halloween (and the proceeding days) much sweeter. Happy Halloween!

If Trick-or-treaters come your way, add {{subst:Halloween apples}} to their talkpage with a spoooooky message!

--5 albert square (talk) 13:57, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Wooooooooooo! AnemoneProjectors 19:00, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

How is it vandalism? (talk) 21:32, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Because heavy metal/death metal bands such as Sepultura and Cannibal Corpse would never be on a show like that. Plus The Wanted were definitely on it twice. I know this for a fact. I watched it last week. AnemoneProjectors 21:38, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Spam Ramsey

Regarding Spam Ramsey et al, this goes back quite a while, dating from January that I am aware of. See User:Adambro/ent v. I've only just recently started watching out for this again and it has quickly become obvious that it is still continuing as you will have seen. User:Daniel Tee 2010 is the earliest account I know about but I suspect I could work backwards in time before that one and find others. Adambro (talk) 21:39, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh fair enough. Are they all blocked as sockpuppets of Daniel Tee 2010? I can go and tag them all if you like. I've only come across the two accounts editing The Wanted. AnemoneProjectors 21:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
I did it. I just like to have them all tagged and categorised... I think I did come across a couple of the accounts earlier in the year actually. AnemoneProjectors 21:59, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with this. Had a closer look and it turns out the comment above on your talk page is from the same individual. Adambro (talk) 21:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I know! lol AnemoneProjectors 22:01, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Des Coleman

Hi can you protect this page please? user keeps removing info.GunGagdinMoan 16:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I can, but as I'm not always here, WP:RFPP is a better place to make a request. Also, as it's just one user doing it, it would be better to keep warning them and then request a block instead :-) In fact you're lucky it's raining today and decided to come home. AnemoneProjectors 16:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
I gave a further warning but maybe I shouldn't have :-S oh well, page is semi-protected now for 7 days. In which time they'll probably become able to edit it anyway! Then they'll get blocked. Page is now (back) on my watchlist. AnemoneProjectors 16:46, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
ThanksGunGagdinMoan 18:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

The X Factor (UK series 7)

Is there a reason you un-did my 2nd update to the X Factor page where I fixed the columns? Are you the only one alowed to make changes or something?

Sure my first change was a mistake but I tried to go back and fix that but you bet me to it. ≈ Seraph 21:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

It was a mistake, I undid my own edit because I accidentally pressed the rollback button on your edit. I did apologised in my edit summary. Forgive me. AnemoneProjectors 21:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
It's cool, I see that you apologised so it's all right. ≈ Seraph 21:48, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

re: CSI: Crime Scene Investigation

The warring goes on about Sara Sidle's appearances being starring or recurring. Perhaps both the Season 11 & main CSI page should be protected as most of the problem is from IP's anyway. Just my opinion. Trista (cannot log in at work) (talk) 22:41, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I have the season 11 page on my watchlist, it seems to have calmed down lately. But I'll keep an eye out and if it gets bad I'll semi-protect it. I don't know about the main CSI page, but just had a look and that has had the same problem but not in over 24 hours. I've watchlisted that as well now. AnemoneProjectors 23:09, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
The edit warring seems to be ramping up again, with the only cites being used for most things and Just FYI. Trista Triste Tierra (talk) 02:00, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I just protected the season 11 page but then realised it hadn't been changed since my last edit. I saw you in the edit history and thought you were reverting another Sara Sidle edit. Never mind :-) AnemoneProjectors 11:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
I am glad you protected it, some of the Sidle warring has gone down, but there were still problems with "notable" cast members (one episode is not necessarily notable) and direct copying and pasting of and other questionable site summaries of unaired episodes - almost all by IPs. I gladly give up my ability to edit from my IP address at work when its best for the article. So I thank you! Trista (cannot log in at work) (talk) 18:41, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Sienna Guillory and Katee Sackhoff keep getting added as "notable cast members" for guest appearing in one episode each so far. I would like your opinion on if this is indeed notable enough to list them (also no cite other than I'm at work using my IP address, so I cannot rvt until later - but will wait until I get your view on this. trista (talk) 20:03, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
If the only source being used is then I would say that's not really good enough, as we know it's unreliable. I'm not really able to edit at the moment (well I am but I don't want to!) because I'm watching a very important TV show :-) But I'll have a look soon. AnemoneProjectors 20:09, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
I'll try to get back to it at home (where I can log in with my screen name), as there are a few hard-core editors who believe one or two appearances justifies "Notable". I've been through this in the CSI/L&O/NCIS articles before, where some think an actor/actress who appeared on 2 episodes of some CW show that ran one season and played a dead body for 20 seconds ( sarcasm is getting out of hand here - but I'm sure you know what I mean!) is good enough to make it into the article, when al it really does is clutter it up. If I don't get to it in a couple of days, I hope you will. We are super busy at work and sometimes I don't even want to look at a computer when I get home! Cheers, AP!!! Trista (talk) 01:52, 10 November 2010 (UTC)


AP, I think User:Moggsy is a sockpuppet of User:Dweeby123. I may be wrong, but I really think it is. --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 12:10, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Unlikely, Moggsy has been active since 2006 and doesn't use any of Dweeby's trademark edit summaries. Dweeby would never say "edited for style" for example. AnemoneProjectors 12:14, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Being very familiar with Dweeby123, I agree with AP that it's (very) unlikely. The edit summaries and articles edited don't fit with Dweeby's style. - JuneGloom Schmooze 12:29, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Now you mention it...Anyway, sorry O_O --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 12:35, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Better source request for File:NoPromises.jpg

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If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source in a complete manner. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page or me at my talk page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:46, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Love you more (JLS song)

Hi. I can see why you redirected "Love you more" to the album page, but i don't think this is the right thing to do. I have just read your edit summary, and you said that once it charts you'll make the page again. If this is true, then the same should go for the album, as it too has not charted.

On the other hand, "The Club is Alive" single page was made before it was charted too i believe, and it was not objected too as far as i know. I appologise in advance if im mistaken, but i just think that "Love you more" should have its own page.

Peace, Technoguy123 (talk) 17:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi. If you read WP:NSONG it says "Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist who prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable." So basically the song would need to have been in a chart, which it won't until next Thursday. As for albums, this is different as album articles are acceptable when there is a title, track list and album cover, and hopefully some information on the album's background. I don't know about "The Club Is Alive" but just because something happened for one article doesn't mean it should happen for another. Sometimes I have made exceptions, like if a song was already released and due to chart soon and it had a very detailed article, then I've not redirected it. Of course, I don't see every article about every song, so it's usually left up to other editors and a lot of the time they go unnoticed. AnemoneProjectors 17:14, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Stacey Solomon

Stacey has entered I'm a Celebrity, on the it was discussed, if she did enter she would be nobel. I just think that know she's been in two shows, she shouldn't be on The X Factor page, she should have her own.. Thanks. -- (talk) 18:51, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

It hasn't started yet. She could still leave at the very last second. AnemoneProjectors 18:52, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
They have already entered the jungle. The show is not live.. Only Ant and Dec present it live... -- (talk) 18:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
I still don't think she's notable for it when it hasn't been broadcast yet. But fine. AnemoneProjectors 19:00, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


OF COURSE IT HASN'T DONE ANY OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IT'S TO BE RELEASED IN 2 WEEKS YOU IDIOT. How does a single chart when it hasn't been released? How does a single win an award when it's brand new and there are no award ceremonies in November? How does a single get covered if it's only just began its radio premiere. You're point is spurious and this is not the criterion for deletion. Please don't engage in such blatant distructiveness. Oh yeah, and what about all the other singles that are awaiting release? Do they get deleted too? If so, why the hell does this exist: Category:Upcoming singles? Patyo1994 (talk) 20:19, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

It hasn't done any of those things, meaning it isn't yet notable, meaning it shouldn't have its own article yet. You need to wait until one of those things happens before recreating it. Other singles in the same situation also shouldn't have articles but they may exist because nobody has found them or bothered to redirect them. AnemoneProjectors 20:37, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi there, I received your patronising message about my personal attack, and no I refuse to apologise, because quite frankly, you don't deserve it. Your point is unjust and stupid, this song has garnered over 100,000 hits in a week on youtube, was performed to an audience of 10 million on Sunday night, is to be released in 2 weeks and you're telling me this isn't notable? Just exactly how is this not notable. Just because a song is so forth ineligible to chart (as it hasn't been released) does not negate from its notability. Perhaps you yourself ought to read WP:SONGS, considering that was your reason for deletion. This is completely ridiculous and I am disgusted with the Wikipedia admins who wield far too much power and go off on their high horse (who could I be refering to?) Patyo1994 (talk) 21:02, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
I have read it, several times. I am fully aware of WP:NSONGS. It says nothing about how many people have viewed a muisc video or a live performance or listened to a recording. I didn't write these rules. If you think they're wrong, I suggest you go here and request them to be changed. AnemoneProjectors 21:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


Okay, I may be a bit over the top, but this user definitely has summaries like Dweeby123. Just letting you know :) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 12:33, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

100%. Blocking now :) AnemoneProjectors 12:40, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Lol! So I was right, as you can see, Dweevy123 likes to make pages like HE wants them :) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 12:44, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Sometimes his edits are ok, but that's beside the point now. I wouldn't revert every edit. AnemoneProjectors 12:46, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Well I noticed he was Dweeby because he keeps changing Vanessa to businesswoman (Until 2010)... --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 12:48, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Is this that same prat who's been doing shit edits for about 5 years now? WJ etc? GunGagdinMoan 18:31, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, we found out that Dweeby is WJH1992 because he logged into one of his old accounts and it came up in his SPI. AnemoneProjectors 18:48, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for East Street (Children in Need)

Gatoclass (talk) 12:05, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

By the way

Just thought I'd let you know I spoke to TeenToday and they said they'll be putting that article back up with The Labyrinth set list (so I hope they do). Umm how come you have a BLP template as your page notice? Weird! AnemoneProjectors 02:28, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

lol it's a pity that Leona's page never released a setlist. And for the template, just my editnotice modified. I hate RD2 and RD3 comments on my user space, so I hope any admin delete those kind of comments. TbhotchTalk C. 02:34, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Wish you would have replied on your talk page. Cos now I have to reply here. Which is silly. But I don't understand about your edit notice. But it's ok. I just thought it was weird that you have a BLP notice there. AnemoneProjectors 20:46, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

New edit on triplets was deleted

I am investigating why my recent edit on the triplets page, was removed. I submitted factual information that I know to be true. Hope this is the correct formate for these questions. I am new at editing and do not understand all the "rules".

Robert Miller —Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowcatman (talkcontribs) 03:06, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi, your information needs to be cited with a reliable source so that other users can verify that it is true. Knowing something to be true isn't enough. If you know of a website containing this information, I can help add it correctly if you're unsure. AnemoneProjectors 12:21, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your help and answer to my question of why the deletion. I have a newspaper story that I hope would work for the "reliable soource". Morning Call in Allentown, PA, October 23, 2010. This is an article about the Kirchner triplets being on the Rachael Ray show after their 90th birthday. Since I am the son of one of the triplets, I could track down other documentation if you feel more is needed. Snowcatman (talk) 20:16, 19 November 2010 (UTC)robert Miller

Hi, I found this article that says the sisters were trying to verify if they are the oldest triplets in the United States. Did they manage to verify it? AnemoneProjectors 20:24, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

No one has come forward with a claim that they are living and older triplets than the Kirchner triplets. Since there is not a registry of triplets by birth and death, we have no way of knowing positively that they are the oldest. Maybe better wording would be to state, "probably oldest living triplets" since absolute verification is difficult. I have contacted Guiness book of World Records but could not get a definitive answer as to whether or not there is a set of triplets older. If we make the claim, we could see if there are challenges from around the world. Snowcatman (talk) 21:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)Robert Miller

Well I'm sure they can be added to the list anyway now we have this online source. AnemoneProjectors 11:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
And I have now added them. AnemoneProjectors 11:32, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

re: CSI: Crime Scene Investigation - Part 2

There has been a problem with one editor, User Rizzoli Isles, a teenager from the UK, who has been repeatedly warned about his disruptive editing (no cites, sometimes blatant WP:OR and posting non-free images - yet continues to do so. He will put one up, it gets removed as non-free, then he replaces it a few hours later (the majority of these are screen shots, or copies from his DVD sets he believes he has the right to do what he wishes with as he bought the box). I myself am at wits end, as 2 ANI discussions have taken place (under his old name Langston Bonasera), and this editor just seems to wait until nobody is watching, then starts up again. He has even put on his talk page, something along the lines of "feel free to discuss, but don't pull rank" - telling me that he really does not care what more experienced editors or admins have told him. He also just erases anything even mildly critical from his talk page and then reverts to old behaviour. After nearly a year of editing, he's obviously not getting it or simply doesn't think rules apply to him. I am politely asking you to check into this. If you go to the Katee Sackhoff page (remember my problem that she has been in only one episode, yet keeps being put up as a "notable cast member" - now she has a picture, too). This editor obviously needs more attention than an experienced editor who is not an admin can give, so I ask for your help here. I dislike being a tattle-tale, but I'm sick of Wikipedia being treated like a fan site by certain editors. I'm about to quit, even though I really love editing. Please forgive my rant, I'm just frustrated right now. Thank you very much. Trista (cannot log in at work) (talk) 20:26, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh dear. First of all he shouldn't have two accounts. He says he created the second one because the first one was "ruined" by others. I'm not really sure what to do about him, he doesn't seem to be willing to learn Wikipedia's rules. Would you mind taking it to ANI? AnemoneProjectors 22:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I'll take to ANI, but the last two times they just seemed to slap him on the wrist with more warnings that he would be blocked if he did it again. If you looked at the ANI discussions you might see why I am frustrated. Also, since I usually have to edit on my IP address at work, I find any ANI actions I have tried to take seem to be taken a bit less seriously. That was the only reason I asked for your help. I realise this is a young person, and they sometimes rebel against rules - but this just seems to have gone too far. But I will take it to ANI if you think I should. It might have to wait until I can log in at home. I do appreciate you looking into this - I was just hoping an admin would be able to get things done a bit faster since this has been an ongoing problem. Cheers, Trista (talk) 22:34, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm not the best of admins really lol :-) but if you make clear the level of his disruptive edits and the fact he changed his account to hide his past actions, someone may well come along and block him. I would, but I'm a bit busy really to actually check the level of his disruption. AnemoneProjectors 22:54, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Well, I got lucky that ANI was on the ball today. Both accounts have been blocked indefinately for now. I'll just have to watch his IP usage to see if he tries to sneak by. I feel bad the block was indefinate - but perhaps this is what this young man truly needs in order to learn to play nicely here on Wikipedia. Thank you for your advice, and I do understand some admins specialise in different things. Cheers! Trista Triste Tierra (talk) 03:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh that's a good outcome. AnemoneProjectors 11:22, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Template:Infobox reality music competition

Hi. I noticed you reverted one of my edits at Template:Infobox reality music competition which made the title within the infobox italic and you said in the edit summary "some things have become italic that shouldn't be". I was just wondering what you were referring to when you said that? Mhiji (talk) 03:06, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi. It's probably something that can be changed but in all The X Factor (UK) articles, they have (UK) in the infobox, such as The X Factor (UK series 7) and The X Factor (UK series 1). I've also found this kind of thing in So You Think You Can Dance (Poland) (season 1) and The X Factor (Greece series 1), for example. I'm sure there are plenty of others. But the (UK), (Greece), (Poland), etc, part shouldn't be italic. AnemoneProjectors 03:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. OK well I've looked through all 165 transclusions of the template. Out of those the only ones where there is a part in italics in the infobox are:
  • The X Factor (UK)
  • The X Factor (Greece)
  • The X Factor (Australia)
  • X Factor (Germany)
  • Idol (Sweden)
  • Idol (Norway)
  • So You Think You Can Dance (Poland)
  • Dancing on Ice (UK)
  • Idols (South Africa)
  • So You Think You Can Dance (UK)

For all the others it is either unnecessary to disambiguate or piped links are used. Therefore I was thinking it would make sense if the few examples above used pipe links as well (e.g. [[The X Factor (UK)|The X Factor]] to produce The X Factor). I'm happy to go through and change them. Doing this would mean then all 165 transclusions could be given the correct italicisation by changing the template. I personally think it looks messy anyway having disambiguations in brackets anywhere in the article (apart from the title). Would you have any objections to me doing that? Mhiji (talk) 15:59, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

That's fine with me if you want to make those changes. AnemoneProjectors 17:36, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 Done Mhiji (talk) 01:42, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Cool, I noticed it didn't work at first but then you spotted my solution :-) yay AnemoneProjectors 01:43, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Haha yeah that was great thanks! Mhiji (talk) 04:29, 23 November 2010 (UTC)


Excuse me on this one, but you can't revert every edit made to this article, ownership we discourage. :p I'm making it tidy, well trying too. I sat their typing that out, if it isn't needed, what's wrong with hiding it. I got the idea from Jordin Sparks... that works fine. So if you prefer a bit of Leona here, we should remove the table perhaps, that's two for no one against seeings that no one is interested in improving the article.RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 00:49, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

I guess it can be collapsible but the table layout should just be a normal wikitable. I didn't revert every edit. I didn't even revert, I edited. lol you got the idea for Jordin Sparks... sounds like she told you to do it :) AnemoneProjectors 01:05, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Okay that's cool. Yeah, Jordin rang me earlier with her idea... 0_0RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 01:57, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Imagine one day DS going bump and closing.. in say 10 years time. Articles I edit just have to be here longer. :/ I'll use full date when editing EE then, we use short on others mostly. I was reading Carol's article and there was nothing recent added, she one of my fav characters so just had to add to it. lolRAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 00:54, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Well you never know, but I'm sure in 10 years time it would all be in the wayback machine. I never archive Digital Spy. I'm pretty sure all articles should use dmy or mdy dates even in accessdates, rather than ymd. I know loads don't but when I use the cite button, the accessdate is automatically filled in with today's day in dmy format. Great job on Carol by the way. I hadn't got around to those sources yet but I do all have them queued up to read. AnemoneProjectors 00:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Its a matter of opinion!

Please Anenome, I know you are very active on the EE articles, and we are all grateful. But you do not have the final say on storyline wordings. The main point of Jane's revelation to the women at Zainab's house was that she did not love Ian. Yes, she said she was planning to leave as well, but the thing that devastated Ian was her saying she did not love him. Your wording could confuse readers into believing that Jane told everyone of her long-time plans to leave Ian which she did not do.

I always dread editing storylines on EE character pages because I usually find you will soon follow and reword things to your own liking. What I edited was not inaccurate, yet you insist on changing it. Ask yourself how many wiki editors have stopped editing EE articles because they feel that you and others are running a 'cabal' on here where your say is final? Bleaney (talk) 00:48, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

It just says is that she said she plans to leave him, not she said how she plans to leave him. I don't see how that's misleading. But fine. I only do minor cleanups or add in details I feel have been missed. Sometimes I think it can be worded better. I can't help it, I'm just passionate about the EastEnders pages. I know that eventually someone will come along and cut down the storylines dramatically so it probably doesn't matter, but I can't help it. AnemoneProjectors 00:53, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
I didnt mean to offend you, I really do appreciate your work on the EE articles, but on this point I felt you were wrong. Im going to change them, as I feel that the love thing was the main point for Ian rather than the leaving thing. If you still cant deal with it, maybe you hould bring up this (minor) point on the articles talk pages? Bleaney (talk) 01:01, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
No, it's ok, I'll leave it as you're probably right. I'm not offended. Maybe I do need to stop jumping on other people's edits so much. Though it doesn't hurt to say "he" and "she" ;) AnemoneProjectors 01:04, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
I agree about the he/she stuff, your very diligent there, and sometimes my overall storyline updates are a bit too wordy! I dont mind when you 'cu' my stuff as your right 99% of the time. Off to bed now, cant face updating Phil mitchell this late! Bleaney (talk) 01:07, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
I have a list of articles and storylines that need updating, but I can't do Phil's as I'm just too confused about what's been going on since Ronnie and Jack's wedding!!! But there are lots of articles. Sometimes it's good that they're not updated so regularly because then updates will be less detailed, and just the main points are mentioned. AnemoneProjectors 01:10, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Just remembered why I pushed for my edit, because I do think it's important to say Ian knows Jane plans to leave him, even if it's not important that the other people know. I'll leave it to you/others to decide. AnemoneProjectors 01:17, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Grant Tilly

Hi AP - re this, yes, Grat Tilly is a well-known actor in NZ (and I used to mix in Theatre circles quite a bit). I took out the most obvious thing which had no apparent basis, corrected one other which was worng, and added in a couple more references which weren't connected with imdb and which seemed to clear up several of the other points. There were still some things in there which were spurious (the bit about the novels was, to start with), and which I've since removed, but what's there is pretty robust IMO. Grutness...wha? 10:49, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

That's cool, I'm glad you know about him so you could do that. I could see his was a real person from IMDb, but the hoaxer has invented people before as well as started articles about real people. Most of them never receive substantial edits from other people before I find them so I find it easier to delete them all. Better to be safe than sorry :) AnemoneProjectors 13:07, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I couldnt resisit....

Pre-ordering this... -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 00:48, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh I never preorder anything. But do you think it should get its own article? AnemoneProjectors 00:54, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Not yet. If it charts and recieves more coverage from reviewers then it should. Madonna album's have done as such... e.g. Madonna's Hard Candy spawned the Sticky & Sweet Tour which in turn spawned Sticky & Sweet Tour (album). -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 01:04, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Thought you might say that. So I was right to merge. Really I just wanted to make this discussion more about Wikipedia ;-) AnemoneProjectors 01:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
LOlz. Yes merging was a good decision for now. I wonder if it will be released internationally? (in the US cus they didnt get a tour)? I havent found no coverage supporting that so far. There were also loads of twitter buzzes that Burke's new re-release over Overcome will be split into two smaller albums for the US market with one impacting in February 2010 with a remix of Bad Boys (featuring Nicki Minaj) as the lead single? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 01:11, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Twitter "buzzes"? I never saw buzzes on Twitter. I never bought Overcome, not really following Alex's career. AnemoneProjectors 01:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Have I just followed you on Twitter? AnemoneProjectors 01:19, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Buzzes = tweets back and forth. no I agree with your statement. I only really follow Leona and perhaps some of the others at times. For me Leona is the jewel of the X Factor. Gutted about Aidan today.... not sure I'm rarely online ;) -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 01:21, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Never heard anyone call them buzzes before and I've been on Twitter for 18 months. I'm only really closely following Leona, Olly and The Wanted at the moment, so those are the articles I'm most likely to strive to put right. Yeah I was gutted about Aiden. I was just starting to think he could win it. He at least should have been in the top 6 acts. I hope the shock of losing someone like him will make people stop pissing about and voting for Wagner. Though he was in tune this week and I quite enjoyed it lol unlike last week when not a single note was right. AnemoneProjectors 01:31, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

While you're here can you explain why scope="row" has gone back to centre aligned? I actually prefered it left and now it looks stupid in certain places like here and every time it changes I have to changed the alignment of the rest of this table to match it. AnemoneProjectors 02:46, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

That one i genuinly have no idea.... but I will inquire ASAP -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 17:22, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks AnemoneProjectors 17:33, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry for the delayed response. Basically the people who programmed the wikicode disapproved of a blanket change of the wikicode for tables. So what's happened is they've reinstated the existing formatting but have instead created a new accessible code for tables. So where you feel that the centre alignment is fucked up use: {| class="wikitable plainrowheaders" style="text-align:center;" instead to start off your wikitable. See Rihanna discography for examples of how it renders. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 02:24, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks so much for that, I must remember that. Obvs if it's a non-centred table I'll not not the text align part :) AnemoneProjectors 02:26, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Aww can I get the row header to be left aligned but still bold? AnemoneProjectors 02:27, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Give it a try and see what you think? Its a little paradoxical though... the new code unboldens the row heading and left-aligns it but you need the style="text-align:center;" to make the other cells central. Also what do you think of MJ and Akon's "Hold My Hand"? I absolutely love the song but I'm not sure I agree with the album. "Breaking News" is most definitely not all of Michael's vocals. Also my copy of The Labyrinth is here I think (play told me it had been dispatched :P) -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 02:28, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Haven't heard any of those songs. I guess the text doesn't necessarily have to be bold as the cell is darker... AnemoneProjectors 02:30, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
They're working on more options like that (^) one but having left-aligned and bold is not possible right now. The Michael Jackson and Akon duet is worth a listen... its really empowering =) -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 02:31, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Not really a huge fan of either, but I'll have a listen. Bold can be done manually but I guess it's not really necessary. I did it on List of EastEnders characters (2010)#Others and it looks ok. AnemoneProjectors 02:34, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
I've done it for the weekly results on The X Factor (UK series 7) and in general I think it works. It defo looks good for the EE stuff. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 02:41, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Lol you could have done that in one edit. Do you think the whole table needs to be centred? Probably, cos I centered it on your suggestion and that's back when the row header was left aligned. AnemoneProjectors 02:50, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Yup the whole table centred looks better. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 14:24, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Yeah it does. AnemoneProjectors 14:26, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
Okies welll if you don't mind I think we should continue to use the new style="text-align:center;" for X Factor. The Main summary table looks better with Bold row headings because its the only way that the contestants stand out. But all in all good work and good job Anemone!! -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 14:35, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm happy as it is - though what about the other tables? Finalists and ratings? I feel that centred but not bold would be helpful, maybe leave it as it is until an option for that is created. By the way I thought the MJ/Akon song was really good, listened to it 4 times in a row last night :) AnemoneProjectors 15:24, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Does "plainrowheaders" work with "sortable"? AnemoneProjectors 19:49, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure tbh. Give it a try and let me know... =) I havent found anyone who dislikes the Akon/MJ song. It made me cry when i first heard the finished version (the unfinished version leaked two years ago). -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 18:16, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Yes, class="wikitable plainrowheaders sortable" works :) I keep readng it as "pillowheaders" lol AnemoneProjectors 18:35, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Los Angeles

Noticed you deleted the revision re: homes in Hackney and LA on the Leona page. She's been living there since January 2009, initially renting before buying a house in September 2009 e.g. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rushian77 (talkcontribs) 20:14, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Except that the reports were untrue and she hadn't bought a house in Los Angeles. AnemoneProjectors 20:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
She's spoken often about living in LA, is pictured constantly there, bought a horse stabled there, rescued a rabbit called Melrose etc, drives a Range Rover. Court/county records even show the date and cost of the house she bought and taxes paid this year. The vendor who sold her the house blogged and tweeted about it (before removing the news for Leona's privacy). There's even video footage of Leona playing Final Fantasy XIII in the same house (there's a huge number of sources with pictures of the house shown in the Mail article and it's rooms). Her former boyfriend Lou even posted pictures of the house when he stayed there earlier this year recording in LA with some of the artists he manages. The bigger question is does she still live in Hackney as she's stayed in hotels the last few months when she's been in London. (talk) 04:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Well if you're 100% sure she herself owns the property. But she did deny that she bought a house in LA. Are you stalking her or something? AnemoneProjectors 14:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
No I'm not stalking her, but I appreciate your concern! Think she was just being coy. Nicole Scherzinger revealed on the Xtra Factor show tonight (straight after the X Factor live results show) that her and Leona are neighbours in LA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:32, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Yes, she did. I saw that and thought of this conversation! You're probably right that she was being coy. AnemoneProjectors 02:44, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

3RR Warning

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The X Factor (UK series 7). Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful, then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Edits Paul2387chat 20:21, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but I disagree that I'm in an edit war. I'm reverting individual different edits that are often made in good faith but are just incorrect. I'm also updating the article as the episodes air. AnemoneProjectors 20:22, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here! (UK series 10)

Can you have a look at semi-protecting this article until the series has finished because of vandalism? --MSalmon (talk) 22:38, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

It's semi-protected until about 3 days after the final, isn't it? Its protection ran out last week but then it was vandalised so I protected it again for 3 weeks. AnemoneProjectors 22:42, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry I meant I'm a Celebrity Series 10 --MSalmon (talk) 22:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Ok, when does it finish? AnemoneProjectors 22:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Saturday 4 December 2010 --MSalmon (talk) 22:47, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Saw it in the article. Done AnemoneProjectors 22:47, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, it was only because I was trying to edit the article right but someone had messed it up while I was doing it --MSalmon (talk) 22:50, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
After I protected it, 90% of the page was missing! Thought it was me! AnemoneProjectors 22:52, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
No it wasn't someone else did it, and I am trying to fix the results and elimination table for the recent result but don't know how to do it --MSalmon (talk) 22:54, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
I think it may have been fixed. One thing I will say it is uses a LOT of colour. AnemoneProjectors 23:00, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Iv'e done it now --MSalmon (talk) 23:11, 28 November 2010 (UTC)


Hi AnemoneProjectors and sorry for my bad English! I tagged User:DoctorMaster2010 as sockpuppet of User:KirkleyHigh because they make the same kinds of edits. I did not report this as I'm very tired to check edits of this contributor who uses plenty of accounts and IP (see this). You can find the whole story here. Regards, --Europe22 (talk) 19:56, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I might just block them. They're being disruptive and I think they're a sockpuppet as well. AnemoneProjectors 20:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Soap characters

See Wikipedia:TFD#Characters templates 3. (talk) 21:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)


I know they can't respond at the CCI page - I'm the one that blocked them. There's nothing stopping them from explaining at their talk page, though, and the "Responding" instructions which are linked to also tell them to watch investigations once they've been opened if they want to know what actions are being taken. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Didn't realise it was you who blocked Dude95. Thought you might have said "respond here" or something, that's all. AnemoneProjectors 18:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Ah, yeah - that would make sense I suppose. I'll try to remember to tweak the template for similar situations in the future. In this case I can't say I actually expect any response from them though given their complete lack of response even on their own talkpage to previous warnings and blocks, though. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:42, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Rollback question

Are you sure the rollback was necessary for this edit? It doesn't look like vandalism to me, which is almost the only thing that rollback should be used for. Minimac (talk) 21:28, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Probably not but I'm so used to hitting rollback that I may have just pressed it automatically. Either that or I was just being lazy on that occasion. I had already explained the same revert in an edit summary before. But no, I'm sure I was wrong to rollback instead of undo. AnemoneProjectors 21:33, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

CSI season 11 (*sigh* yet again)

There are a couple of IPs who insist on putting up info from about unaired eps and summary info, and I don't want to get too close to edit warring. Would you be so kind as to semi-protect it for a time as you did before? A quick check of the revisions will show I have used edit summaries to explain exactly why they are not supposed to be put up with only as a cite. Thank you! Trista (cannot log in at work) (talk) 23:27, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

How did I get involved with this page? lol I'll keep an eye because I don't think it warrants protection yet. But do consider WP:RFPP in case I'm not about :-)
You had helped me before with this and the Jorja Fox recurring/starring edit war a few weeks ago and had protected it for a week so the IPs would go away for a time - I know you're busy so you might not remember - but you did have it on your watch list. I only came to you because asking RFPP to help is not always helpful...they consider stuff like this too small to mess with (you have to have a problem with edit warring on George W Bush or something similar to get their attention.) If it continues, I'll go to AIN/ANI, since RFPP doesn't do much good. Trista (talk) 00:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Well I know about the Jorja Fox stuff, I just can't remember how I came to be involved, it's not a page that would normally be on my watchlist. Anyway, I'm keeping a closer eye so will revert additions and protect again if it gets to much. AnemoneProjectors 00:28, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

You've been reported at WP:AN3

Hello AnemoneProjectors. Please see WP:AN3#User:AnemoneProjectors reported by User:Paul2387 (Result: ). Your comment would be appreciated. I suspect you're trying to combine an admin role (policing inappropriate stuff) with actual contribution of content, which is sometimes hard to sort out. You already apologized for possible misuse of rollback, so I'm not worried about that. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 19:25, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Lists of EastEnders episodes

Morning AP :) I know I'm taking forever and a day with this, but I'm noticing that the vast majority of BBC Programmes pages for 2009 don't credit the writers. I've cribbed most of the September and October ones from IMDb, but I've noticed a few instances where that doesn't agree with the BBC, and I don't want to be relying on a dubious source. Basically, I'm wondering which you think would be the lesser of two evils - dropping the column where the official site doesn't have the info, or keeping it in and using IMDb? Frickative 01:48, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I remember a time when I used to think "they should put the writers on" and then I was glad when they started to. Oh, I'm normally the one asking you this kind of thing! Well... I've been using IMDb for the older episodes (I started a 1985 list for example). But if there are going to be errors then... I don't know lol. What would you say if I had asked you? By the way look what I've done! :-) AnemoneProjectors 01:54, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm, I suppose in reverse I would reluctantly say to drop the column where it can't be filled out reliably, so, I guess that's what I'll do. Pity though. BBC Programmes needs to stop being rubbish! And wow, those four articles are really great! I can't believe how detailed they are, great job :D Have you got your eye on a quadruple DYK? Frickative 13:13, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I hadn't considered DYK for them, I want to go for an EastEnders: E20 Good Topic! But a quadruple would be, well, amazing! What could I even say?! It's a shame if you have to drop the column. Perhaps you could put in the details from IMDb but keep it hidden and then if BBC Programmes ever update fully then you can just double check. What about where I've used IMDb for 1985? AnemoneProjectors 13:43, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh and also I didn't think I'd get DYK for any because a lot of it is split from List of EastEnders: E20 characters (a page which is currently a bit of a mess). AnemoneProjectors 14:13, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I can't think of a hook off the top of my head, but I'll keep my mind on it. An E20 Good Topic would be seriously fab! That's a good idea about hiding the column, I'll do that :) I've just been browsing around BFI and Screen Online to see if they have usable details for the early episodes - BFI do for some, but their coverage is patchy at best. But according to Amazon, Eastenders: The First Ten Years by Colin Brake has a detailed appendix, which "lists episodes, transmission dates, writers and directors." So presumably if we could access that, we'd have a reliable source for 1985-95! I think Gungadin has a copy. I don't particularly want to buy it, but I've just checked my library and I could get it on an inter-library loan for 80p, so I think I'll put a request in :D Frickative 14:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Ohh, I didn't realise they were split off - the sections in the list look pretty long, so I guess it wouldn't be a five times expansion :( Frickative 14:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
(edit conflict, and only just realised ages later cos I went away from the computer!) I was just adding "But that's mostly storyline so they might be ok :-)" Thing is I've reduced storyline and increased OOU. Worth checking though. Yeah I think Gungadin has a copy of that but if you can get it out from the library then that's a great idea :-) AnemoneProjectors 14:43, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I think I'll just move the E20 characters into the mainspace without going for DYK as I'm not too worried about it. I just want an E20 Good Topic! :-) I might go for GAs on the series 1 characters before I go for series 2. Fatboy is currently in the queue. AnemoneProjectors 17:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
I saw you nominated Fatboy, it looks like it's in really great shape so I hope you get an easy pass :D To get a GT, would the character list have to become a FL as well? I think that one will probably be the hardest, but the rest of the articles in Category:EastEnders: E20 look very doable. Best of luck with it! Frickative 21:11, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm unclear on whether every article within the scope of the topic has to be included, so would I have to get both lists to FL? They'd have to be FL to be in the GT. I know I can expand the lead of the characters list, maybe even just make it "Characters of EastEnders: E20". Would that still be a list? I'll compare to other "characters of" articles after X Factor :-) AnemoneProjectors 21:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
I think they do, but I've never really been fully clear on the distinction between lists and articles when there's a lot of prose involved - I assume if you made it "Characters of..." it would be fine as a GA nom and probably a much easier process :) I think the episode list would have an easier time at FL, just because it's more of a straight list so less to nitpick! Frickative 21:26, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

(undent) Only found four. Characters of Glee, Characters of Friends (on which I based my article) and Characters of Lost are all list-class. However, Characters of Carnivàle is FA-class, and not even FL. It includes conception and reception... I don't know if I'll be able to get the episodes to FL. Could I merge them back to the main article, where they were when the GA passed? ;-) AnemoneProjectors 21:30, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Characters of Smallville is a GA (& I wouldn't use Characters of Glee as an example of anything, I don't know wtf I'm doing with that page from one day to the next haha.) You could do, that would certainly be an easier way of going about it! I think it's worth a shot at FL, but I can understand wanting to avoid it if possible. Are you still planning on trying to get the main E20 article up to FA at some point? I wasn't even part of the EastEnders WikiProject then, but I was scared off FA for life by the Pauline Fowler review. Frickative 22:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
I'd love to go for FA. I said I would after series 2 ended. I'm sure it would be so much easier for a TV show than a character! Especially as it's already GA. I'll need everyone's support though :-) Characters of Smallville seems a good example. I didn't check subcategories, which is why I only found those four. AnemoneProjectors 22:49, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Alexandra Burke's The Silence

Hi AnemoneProjectors! I was just wondering if "The Silence" is actually getting released on Monday? Just i can't find a single cover, or anything on iTunes, as you can normally pre-order them? Thanks. --SATURDAYmight. (talk) 13:36, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, Amazon says it was released yesterday but then says "not available". To be honest, I don't know. I don't really follow her career that closely. There's actually no mention of it on her website, just the deluxe edition of Overcome, which is out on Monday. AnemoneProjectors 13:56, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
That's what i'm not understanding.. There's a music video, and she says it's a single, but there is no evidence of it as a single, just the music video. There hasn't been a date for the actual single release.. Maybe redirect the whole thing, until we have more information? --SATURDAYmight. (talk) 14:02, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes it's very weird. Hmm, I'm not sure. I'm going to go to the Overcome talk page. AnemoneProjectors 14:37, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Family Trees

What program did you use to make your family trees? Arjoccolenty (talk) 00:53, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

GenoPro. AnemoneProjectors 01:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Which is only for Windows. Damn. Are Carol and Alan divorced on EE? Arjoccolenty (talk) 19:02, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Alan is remarried, so yes. Do I need to update the Jackson tree? AnemoneProjectors 19:03, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
I did it. AnemoneProjectors 21:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Why am I not watching Corrie?

lol, I dont actually watch Corrie, but seeing as you and all my friends are so shocked that I haven't seen it, I guess i'll watch the episode later on the IPlayer lol. BTW I have left Roger's entry deliberately vague as we dont know if he actually is Billy's and Julie's son yet. Julie could be lying, or Billy might have the wrong guy lol, so ive left it vague for now. Guess we will find out tomorrow! Bleaney (talk) 21:39, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

You won't find it on iPlayer :-) I do watch Corrie but am not as bothered about it as EastEnders. Everyone on Twitter was watching it, even though half the people I follow don't watch it. The acting was pretty bad, and I think the timing was wrong too. And just like in the EastEnders fire, I couldn't tell who was who. Yeah I understand that Roger should be left vague, it's a good casting though. Do you read the spoilers cos you always seem to know what's not gonna be relevant? AnemoneProjectors 21:45, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh you pedant, you know i meant the ITV Player lol. I do look at the spoilers yes, as its sometimes pertinent to my EE edits on here, though I perfectly understand if others dont Bleaney (talk) 22:08, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Was a new episode of Corrie on tonight as well? Bleaney (talk) 20:50, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, it's on every night this week, live 1 hour episode on Thursday, usual 2 eps on Friday. AnemoneProjectors 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, will watch it later on ITV2. Like you I wasnt impressed with the acting, but the Special effects were pretty dazzling. Bleaney (talk) 21:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
The acting tonight was just as bad, first half was pretty undramatic, second half was better. The special effects were good, but the CGI was quite poor, I felt. I have to concede though and say it's better then EastEnders' recent fire. But I'm glad the ratings so far haven't beaten EastEnders Live! AnemoneProjectors 21:11, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Neighbours Page

I would have liked you to contact me first regarding the page and give suggestions on improving it and contributing to it, rather than go ahead and delete the page altoghter, rather rude if you ask me Mjs2010 (talk) 14:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, well the correct title for the article would be List of Neighbours episodes, which is an existing redirect. I deleted it as a duplication of that. You can work on that if you want, though. It was redirected before because it appeared to have been abandoned and was not a list of episodes. AnemoneProjectors 14:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Queen Vic Fire Week

Gatoclass (talk) 06:05, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Ashley Peacock

What would you do about Ashley Peacock, IP's keep adding his last appearance date, but how do we know that is his final appearance, he could have his body appear when they get to him or something. They keep over riding my edits.. Can you help? RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 20:53, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

You've asked me something about Ashley Peacock, I'm not going to read it until I've seen the episode, just in case ;-) So I'll reply then, sorry. Is it really important? AnemoneProjectors 21:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay, sorry, I didn't realise. Could you block IP's out for a three day period or something? Or it will be a edit war if I revert again.RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 21:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I'll protect it if IPs are causing problems. AnemoneProjectors 21:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that, it's chaos on Corrie articles right now.. normally no ones bothered and when they are, they have no interest in helping really. Just adding massive paragraphs for one episode, changing dates and linking character names millions of times without actor names... Not one knows a what a reference is - let alone cite it and certainly wouldn't dream of adding any development info because they think this is a fansite. < /rant > From you're last edit summary on Ashley, I take it you know more about the episode now. Sowwie. =)RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 21:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Well I knew it was gonna happen anyway, I went to the article to see what was going on, then I chose to read the Digital Spy reference confirming his death. I had it on but missed the first half, so wasn't paying attention, plus I was reading twitter at the time and people were mentioning him but I was trying to ignore them lol if anything else needs protecting let me know :-) AnemoneProjectors 21:22, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Raintheone, let me know if you want some help with the Corrie articles :) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 17:27, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
But ask on my page lol AnemoneProjectors 17:32, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, am I annoying you AP xD lol --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 17:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, you're blocked ;-P AnemoneProjectors 17:35, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Awww man, how am I gonna contain my boredom now? lol! --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 17:40, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Endless masturbation? AnemoneProjectors 17:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Hahaha! I really giggled at that ;D --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 17:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi AP, could you please semi-protect Peter Barlow (Coronation Street) as well? As true as this edit is, it's gone crazy with nonsense. I'd go to RPP, but as you're online now and know the situation, I figured asking you would be quicker and easier :) Frickative 22:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Semied for 3 days! More Corrie pages are making it onto my watchlist tonight!! AnemoneProjectors 22:04, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! Haha, there's nothing quite like a live episode to bring out IP craziness! Frickative 22:20, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Indeed! Now, why doesn't "Four Funerals and a Wedding" have an article? AnemoneProjectors 22:39, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
It really should have one! I was going to start drafting something in my sandbox the other day, but there was so much background stuff on Digital Spy, I didn't know where to start. The first fifty articles were basically 'X old cast member might come back!' ...'X old cast member confirms they're not coming back.' '50th episode might be a musical! Or interactive! Or set on the moon!' Frickative 22:45, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I considered it as well but... I just can't be bothered! Too much info to look for. But I do know my hometown of Stevenage was involved :-) AnemoneProjectors 22:54, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Ooh, filming dahn sath? They're selling out! DS have got a separate tag for all the 50th anniversary stuff here - half the Corrie editors on Wikipedia seem to be congregating on your talk page atm, so maybe between us we could all collaborate and throw something together? I have a million unfinished projects on the go atm, but it might not be too bad as a group effort. Frickative 23:11, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
No filming down here but the fire and ambulance crews (possibly police too) were all from Stevenage. I hope the week of episodes gets an article... but I just don't wanna :-) AnemoneProjectors 23:38, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh wait, it was just for a trailer! Damn, I misread the article the other week. AnemoneProjectors 23:48, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
Ah well, at least you got slightly in on the action! All that's ever filmed in Nottingham is the news and maybe Catchphrase =/ And lol, that's totally fair enough! Dear talk page stalkers of AnemoneProjectors, if any of you have an interest in compiling an encyclopaedia entry on the demise of squeaky Ashley and the hilarious hammer antics of John Stape, please feel free to pitch in here :) I'd go ask at the WikiProject, but I think it's been as quiet as poor Rita lately. Frickative 23:50, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
I think I was so excited when I read the article that I completely misread it! I thought the police might have been involved because Stevenage Police on Twitter mentioned something about it. AnemoneProjectors 23:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

When I'm free I'll try and help on the new article you're planning, I've watched your sandbox page you've made. =)RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 23:59, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I'll help too. :) I suppose I should have realised earlier that Ashley wasn't going to be in the live ep, since Steven Arnold is in my home town doing panto. - JuneGloom Schmooze 00:22, 10 December 2010 (UTC)


Hello AP. I need a huge favour. Can you restore all versions of Bianca's image. I wanted to get the old ones but there gone. I need it for a college Media Project. Thanks, I will let you know when I'm done --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 20:09, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

There are 29 of them! But ok. AnemoneProjectors 20:15, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
You may re-delete :) Although 75% of them were reverted ;D --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 20:29, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I knew most were reverts! I had to do a lot of clicking to restore the page history :P AnemoneProjectors 20:38, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Lol. You really helped me though, thats whats important. Will be able to do it myself soon when I eventually become an admin :) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 20:45, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
You wouldn't even need to undelete then :) AnemoneProjectors 20:47, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Well it might be a while, I've only got 915 edits. How many edits did you have when you applied to be an admin? --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 20:57, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
I had 11,184 edits on 3 February 2007 (in 8 months). But there's more to it than having a high number of edits. AnemoneProjectors 21:02, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Possible sock

I'm hoping you may be able to give myself and another editor some information regarding the banned user that spurred this deletion. An editor has recreated the article, and it appears it may be a hoax. There are also multiple issues with this 'new' user's contributions. Given I can't see the deleted article histories to try to tie Tommy Dean to another account, I'm hoping you may have some input. Additional information can be found here. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 17:48, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh thank you for asking, I am 100% sure this is another sockpuppet of User:Jake Picasso. The type of new article and other edits make me absolutely certain. I will go ahead and block them. AnemoneProjectors 17:54, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Wow, that was fast! Thank you kindly for the help. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 21:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

X Factor

Maybe we should spit tonight's performances into two separate tables?

Disagree, we never did it before. AnemoneProjectors 20:39, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm concerned that you would then end up using three colours in the table would create issues with WP:ACCESS. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:45, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm not planning on using a colour for second place. AnemoneProjectors 20:46, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Ok that's fair play then. I assumed having looked at the previous years thats all. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:57, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
Nah not basing it on previous years. I think we should use the yellow for the winner that we're using in the results summary for the winner in the bottom row. AnemoneProjectors 20:59, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Elizabethan government

Dear Anemone, How the hell are you? I am writing to ask you to recommend an article for speedy deletion. It is Elizabethan government. The level of thought, organisation, material, diction and grammar, register, voice, assumptions/prejudices, all indicate that the article does not have the necessary content or style to rank as a Wikipedia article. There is virtually no citation in it; it relies on tautology (stating the obvious), etc. It should rewritten by someone qualified to do so. I see that some review of the article has taken place, but I regret to suggest that it should be a candidate for early deletion. Thanks for investigating.FClef (talk) 00:34, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi FC, I'm good thanks. The article doesn't fit the criteria for speedy deletion and it is tagged as "This article is written like a personal reflection or essay and may require cleanup" (since March) so someone clearly agrees with you. If you think it should be deleted, you'll have to nominate it at articles for deletion. Hope you're well. AnemoneProjectors 00:45, 15 December 2010 (UTC)


Hello there Anemone. Can you add some more pages into you're ever growing watchlist? List of minor Coronation Street characters (2010), Chris Gray (Coronation Street), Katy Armstrong and Owen Armstrong... Everytime the page is recreated, it needs reverting. Apparently they have "WARRANT" to have their own pages... but what the editors seem to misunderstand they have to prove this... I can't be bothered to do that myself, so they'll just have to lump it until the work is put in IMO... Charlotte Hoyle has a page now too... About the only one I'd be interested in helping out with, as theirs plenty of info on her. =)RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 20:55, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I have the 2010 list watchlisted, and have commented about the Charlotte Hoyle page already. I will watchlist the others too *sigh* :-) AnemoneProjectors 21:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
It's because you love Corrie again, yes you do. It'll be Hollyoaks next. ;)RAIN..the..ONE HOTLINE 21:22, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Eastenders Consensus

I started a discussion in the EE talk page but I need someone to get it started. Arjoccolenty (talk) 10:22, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

My talk

If you want, you can go ahead and unprotect my talk page. My attitudes towards IPs has strongly improved in recent, and I don't want a legitimate IP query to be halted by user's attacking me. I'm not one to get easily offended, guess it comes with the territory. There are enough people "watching me" that any vandalism/attack will soon be reverted (hopefully). If attacks do continue, I would accept a protect if the attacker uses socks again. Thanks, CTJF83 chat 13:33, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and most importantly, I do appreciate you protecting it, which was in my best interest at the time. CTJF83 chat 13:34, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and unprotected your page. It was due to expire in about 12 hours but since you asked so nicely :-) There just seemed to be a lot of vandalism going on in such a short period that protection was the best option, but hopefully it won't return. We can all expect some degree of vandalism but it was a bit excessive. AnemoneProjectors 13:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
LOL, ya after I saved it, i was like "oh, i think it will auto unprotect in like 12 hours", and again, I do very much appreciate you protecting it, and putting my best interests in mind. I am, however, going to bed now, so if it gets excessive again, please protect. :) Thanks! CTJF83 chat 14:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Jack and his many babies

Am I the only one that is disturbed that Jack has 4 KIDS and 3 of them are from the same family. Ronnie's baby James will have a half-sister, a half-sister and a first cousin and a half-sbrother and a second cousin. Isn't that a little nasty? Arjoccolenty (talk) 20:26, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

No. AnemoneProjectors 20:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Family Tree Updates: Mitchell

Edward, Betty, Phil Sr., Sandra, Kenneth, Barbara, Steven, Janet, Charlie, Lynne, Jamie, Clive, Elaine, Eric, Andy, Danielle and Archie are all dead.

Phil was married Kate Morton but got divorced.

Archie and Glenda, Grant and Carla, Roxy and Sean, Billy and Honey are divorced.

Amy's surname was changed to Mitchell.

And I also read that somewhere that James and Ronnie's baby was gonna be named James and it was gonna die from SIDS. Arjoccolenty (talk) 21:02, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I didn't include a deceased symbol in this one because there are many characters who have never appeared so essentially they were never alive. I won't be adding a child that doesn't exist yet, but I'll do the rest. And it's Jack, not James. But yeah, thanks for the spoiler. AnemoneProjectors 21:31, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
And actually there's no evidence of Grant and Carla, or Roxy and Sean being divorced. AnemoneProjectors 22:12, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

RFC courtesy notice - succession boxes

As someone who has taken part in previous discussions regarding the use of succession boxes in articles for songs and albums, I'd like to notify you of a request for comment that is taking place at WT:CHARTS#Request for comment: Use of succession boxes. It would be nice to finally come to a resolution on this. If you have already participated in this RFC or do not wish to participate, then please disregard this notice. Thanks. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 00:30, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


Celestine and Etta Tavernier - Hi can you reinstate Etta's image. Have made a couple article.GunGagdinMoan 01:23, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Dones! AnemoneProjectors 01:29, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Should I do a history merge of the articles? AnemoneProjectors 01:32, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
Yeh, that makes good sense.GunGagdinMoan 02:12, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
I can't be bothered now AnemoneProjectors 02:38, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Can you restore this one too please Richard Cole (EastEnders)GunGagdinMoan 02:58, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Done :) AnemoneProjectors 09:31, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
And Nellie Ellis please.GunGagdinMoan 02:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
Done, but I made a complete mess of it! Fixed now AnemoneProjectors 08:49, 23 December 2010 (UTC)


A banned user seems to be back: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User_creating_apparent_hoax_articles. Fences&Windows 02:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

When/where was this editor banned? Fences&Windows 03:07, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
They were so disruptive that I thought it best that they be banned. I thought I could just do that because I've seen it just done like that with other highly disruptive editors. AnemoneProjectors 08:28, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Actually an admin cannot unilaterally ban an editor unless enforcing an ArbCom ruling. See Wikipedia:BAN#Decision to ban. Please open a thread an WP:AN asking for this ban to be imposed on User:Jake Picasso and his merry band of socks. Hopefully my speedy deletions of their edits will be seen as an WP:IAR protection of Wikipedia rather than admin abuse... Fences&Windows 00:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I do apologise. I am sure I saw that happen with another sockpuppet and also I thought I read that I could do that. I removed the banned template. But deletion of articles under G5 should still apply, no? AnemoneProjectors 08:55, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
It's no big deal. Normally copying what other admins do works, but sometimes not! G5 only works for banned users, not those who are indef blocked. I'll open a thread to get him banned formally, should be a formality. Fences&Windows 19:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
G5 says "banned or blocked". It turns out there was a discussion about the other sockpuppet, but I was totally unaware of it. It wasn't linked to in any edit summary when the banned template was added so I just assumed that someone just decided that user should be banned, and I did the same. AnemoneProjectors 19:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
He is pretty prolific, this one. I was under the impression than G5 was just for banned users, but it applies blocked users too. Apparently we both have to go and re-read all of the policies and guidelines... shouldn't take us much more than a few weeks, eh? The curse of being an admin. Fences&Windows 02:18, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
There are far too many policies and guidelines. I started an AFD and asked for deletion under one guideline, then everyone started quoting a different one I wasn't aware of :-) AnemoneProjectors 08:41, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of East Street (Children in Need) for deletion

The article East Street (Children in Need) is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/East Street (Children in Need) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. —Half Price 14:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

per the actual credits

Hi, concerning this...I can't see the credits, can you please link me to them thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 21:23, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

That's how his name is written in the CD booklet, and also here. Taio Cruz wasn't famous at the time. AnemoneProjectors 21:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
How reliable is that all music? It claims T. Onile-Ere - it is claimed as Tayo in the will young article, where is the Tayo cited from? You have the CD and have seen it yourself? The subject appears to be denying that is his name. Taio Cruz.... See here, subject says reports of that name originate from wikipedia ..... “I think journalists should be banned from checking Wikipedia,” he says, referring to a host of inaccuracies that have now been corrected. “My name is Jacob Taio Cruz, I’m 27 years old, born in 1983. I didn’t go to school in Sussex, I went to a school in Warwickshire. And there’s probably a million other things on there that’s wrong, too.” - Is it the same person? Off2riorob (talk) 22:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Well the CD tracklisting says "T. Onile-Ere". I believe someone searched the birth records to find "Tayo". AnemoneProjectors 23:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Also on ASCAP AnemoneProjectors 19:28, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

See ya back online when I get back from my holidays! --5 albert square (talk) 02:55, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Aww thank you. And merry Christmas to you too :-) AnemoneProjectors 09:28, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

File:Ronnie mitchell.jpg

Hey Anemone. Hope you had a good Christmas. I wanted to ask if you could delete the old revisions of Ronnie's image. It just bugs me having like 3 revisions of like 3 images. Could you do that? Thanks , --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 21:39, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Will do AnemoneProjectors 21:46, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
What is going on with these continuous image changes? It's a bit much! And some of them are not particularly flattering images either.GunGagdinMoan 21:59, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Nah, it's just better quality :) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:01, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Non-free images are supposed to be low quality though. Just because it's now in HD doesn't mean you need to update them. There's no need to update every 6 months, in fact in most cases images can probably be left for at least three years. They don't change much. AnemoneProjectors 22:04, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Anyway, some images on Wikipedia are quite scabby and just want them to be better. Like Ronnie's image was always very ugly, that's the best one yet. and Carols is better too :) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
some are better, some are definitely not. Plus it's ridiculous changing the images so often. I think we need to start putting in new rules about image uploads on the EE project, because you are a bit obsessed! I cant work out if you are striving for better or you just like taking captures and seeing them on wikipedia!!! I dont think Ronnie or Carol's are better to be honest, especially Carol, The full frontal ones where they are looking at camera illustrate the face well. Side shots where they are looking away are less desirable.GunGagdinMoan 22:10, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
(ec) Carol looks wonky now. But take Billy Mitchell for example. His image is from August 2008, and there's zero need to replace it. Phil Mitchell might have lost weight and grown a beard, but it's still an image of Phil Mitchell, so no need to replace it. I don't think there was anything wrong with the existing pictures of Ronnie or Carol. AnemoneProjectors 22:12, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Don't be ridiculous, I ain't obsessed :D I just like to contribute that's all. I know that full frontal ones are better. I do try to do this. Such as Kat's. I actually think that's a good example isn't it? --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:14, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Kat's is good but you did try to change it again after taking a new 2010 image, but Gungadin reverted it. AnemoneProjectors 22:16, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I know, I keep wondering why I did that :S But I think the current one is perfect to be honest. C'mon can't we only upload images when they are an improvement, such as Ronnie's? --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
We don't need perfect images, we just need images. I think Ronnie's 2009 image was good enough to be honest. AnemoneProjectors 22:21, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Kat's is good and Janine's was good, but you changed both of them, and Kat's is only the way it is now because I reverted you on the image upload over that one. I'm glad you want to contribute, but there are other ways. So much editing needs to be done on prose and sources added etc. Why dont we do this differently. I have a suggestion. Capture the images of any characters as you see fit and upload them to a filesharing site. Then, the wikiproject can vote which image they like when you have a collection, instead of you just uploading new ones all the time. After all we probably all should have a say as to which image best represents the characters for the reader. Ronnie changes her fringe every other week; it's not necessary for our image on here t do the same as she does.GunGagdinMoan 22:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I will do that filesharing idea. But can we keep Ronnie's? I think that's really good, but that's my opinion...--GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:24, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Kinda being nosy here....shouldn't all the old images be deleted, since they are not in use, and to be in compliance with WP:NFCC? CTJF83 chat 22:26, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Which was what this discussion was originally about... Is there a user group that allows deleting of images? I could do all that if there was. --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:28, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Yes, admins which AnemoneProjectors is a member of. CTJF83 chat 22:30, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I tried to become an Admin 6 months ago but, but a failed... --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
(ec) Yes they should be. AnemoneProjectors 22:34, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
What's should be? --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:35, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I was answering Ctjf83's original question. I remember seeing your RFA and thinking "I'm sure I was the one who made the sections for Vanessa, Jodie and Harry..." ;) AnemoneProjectors 22:38, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Shhhh! The quicker I'm an admin the better! Then I can help with the image deleting :) lol --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:43, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I dont intend to revert Ronnie. I reverted Laura Beale because she wasnt facing the camera in the image you uploaded over the original. Obviously there are some characters that can benefit from better images on the project. I dont want to dampen you passion for taking caps, but I think you are clearly a perfectionist and there is no such thing as perfection; it's an impossible standard! you constantly upload new images as you seem to want the perfect image, but that doesnt exist with screen shots because they are not glossy promo photos and can never be perfect. Remember other people dont have such high standards as you. Often you uploaded "better quality" images over ones you have taken already and I frequently think the first cap you took was better!GunGagdinMoan 22:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh GSorby, in addition to what Gungadin said about adding/cleaning up prose etc, I've seen you updating/adding rationales to images, I think it would be more helpful, if you want to, to go through the EastEnders images category and help with the rationales, because you've done some really good ones. If you want something to do that's image related :-) AnemoneProjectors 22:49, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Well I've  Done it now and deleted the old revisions lol AnemoneProjectors 22:44, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh Gungadin, before I delete old revisions after I uploaded a new one, I would leave it a couple of weeks in case somebody reverted it, so do NOT worry :) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 22:57, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
I think that was meant for me, I started typing something but changed my mind and forgot to delete the whole thing LOL AnemoneProjectors 22:59, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Ahaha! Lol! I wondered where the other half was :) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 23:02, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I probably shouldn't ask this, but could you think of a good thing I've done and use it to support my rfa? I know, I probably shouldn't ask this, but I would be very handy as an admin, pweaaase? :) --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 23:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
To be honest with you right now I can think of more reasons to oppose :S AnemoneProjectors 23:54, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh dear... --GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 00:24, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Hoax vandal

Hi, could you give another (longer) block to (talk · contribs) please? Thanks. AD 16:35, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I've given a final warning, and will block the next time they vandalise. AnemoneProjectors 16:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

A little something from me :)

Barnstar of Reversion2.png The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
I think you deserve this as your always on the lookout for anything out of place on Wikipedia. A vandal never gets past your eyes (well screen) lol :) GSorbyDesroid - (Contribs!) 19:57, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :) AnemoneProjectors 20:20, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Carol's name

Carol's maiden name is Branning right, so why is it her name is down as Jackson in the family members section of the Branning Family, but Tanya's, who was introduced married to Max, retains her married name of Cross? Arjoccolenty (talk) 04:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Because that's her name. If we put Carol Branning, people might wonder who we mean. Carol's never been known as Branning. Tanya however is listed as a spouse rather than a descendent. I don't know. AnemoneProjectors 11:16, 29 December 2010 (UTC)