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Mumbai Suburbs[edit]

Hello! Many of us have been doing a good job, adding a lot to Mumbai suburbs (like Bandra, Santacruz, Andheri, Mulund etal.). It's high time we have a standard template for this purpose.

I suggest - A brief intro, Geography(PIN Code, Neighbouring/Nearest Railway Stations, Neighbouring Suburbs, Main Roads), History, Educational Institutions, Places to Visit.

Please tell your views about this. User:Utcursch, May 05, 2004

Request for admin help[edit]


I tried to move List of billionaires to List of US-dollar billionaires (after suggesting it on talk and nobody replying in over a week), but made a mistake and moved the talk page instead. Moved it back again, and tried moving the article (with talk page) but I can't because of the redirect. Got a message saying to ask an admin -- please could you help?

Many thanks. --Trainspotter 14:17, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

Angela: You were off-line so I deleted the redirect page. Cecropia 14:41, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
Thanks Cecropia. Angela. 17:15, May 6, 2004 (UTC)

Tidy up[edit]

Angela, the welcome from you is the only trace I can find of a user called Kindling. Don't have a clue how to delete it. Thanks --BozMo 14:48, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

My mistake. There was nothing on his user page or talk page and he didn't seem to have been there or signed anything. I didn't (think of) checking edits. Just obsessively tidy I guess. --BozMo 18:49, 6 May 2004 (UTC)


By the way, anything being done about the system being so terribly slow? --BozMo 18:52, 6 May 2004 (UTC)


Also by the way since I think you did the disclaimer I think WikiPedia not giving any form of financial advice is also a good idea--BozMo 10:58, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

New sysops[edit]

Thank you! Mark Richards 23:56, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

..and from me too. Thanks! rbrwrˆ 16:35, 7 May 2004 (UTC)


Hi there, I had the impression that you are here quite often and you are an admin, so maybe you have an idea about how to deal with this. TDC tries to personally insult me on his userpage by creating a "crybaby of the year award". he already got banned once for telling someone to "suck his own dick". I also asked mediators Bcorr, sannse, and TUF-KAT about it. Get-back-world-respect 17:15, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I tried and asked him about it. However, Wikipedia:dispute resolution clearly says Wikipedia:No personal attacks. Over there it says Many Wikipedians remove personal attacks on sight. In extreme cases, users have been banned for repeatedly engaging in personal attacks. TDC already got banned once, was listed as a vandal, and someone created a page Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/TDC. I listed his crybaby image for speedy deletion. Get-back-world-respect 23:05, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
Five days are over and all images I listed for deletion are still there 8^( Have I already asked you if you are interested in my learning project? Please check my user page and let me know on my talk page. Get-back-world-respect 11:46, 15 May 2004 (UTC)

Mumbai (Images)[edit]

First, allow me to thank you for your willingness to stand as a Volunteer User Representative. There are many fine admins in Wiki, but I feel a special allegiance to you because you welcomed me here lo those many months ago. You will most certainly have my vote.

However, that is not what brought me here. Images of Mumbai is a page which was on VfD not long ago. It squeaked by, but the concerns raised generally had to do with the quality of the images and the fact that many had no particular focus. I selected about two thirds of them, edited them boldly in Photoshop, and created a new page, Mumbai (Images). I don't know how to redirect pages (still a newbie when it comes to some of the more esoteric stuff), and am not sure, as a regular user, I'm allowed to anyway, so I'm asking (a) if you could do it for me, and (b) if it is an operation I'm allowed to perform, the location of the page describing the procedure. Denni 22:57, 2004 May 10 (UTC)

Artificial consciousness[edit]

Angela, many thanks for your offer to mediate the artificial consciousness article. I find the mediation necessary, because the things there are indeed out of hand. But what worries me is that mediation is about the article, but there the problem is the additude of two users who now already several months used personal attacks against other user (me). But you see yourself, if you read the talk page. And the big problem is that almost nobody ever reminded them that this is not a right behaviour, while I was admonished twice by sysops (for reverting more than three times). I understand that nobody dares to remind them, being afraid to become a subject of personal attacks as I am, but this gives them an impression that their behaviour is silently approved by others. Maybe the best idea I got of the reasons of ridiculing me was when Paul Beardsell wrote me (in the Archive 8 of the talk page) "I want to use the term artificial consciousness in the same way I might one day have to use natural consciousness to distinguish it from the artificial variety and as a separate subset of consciousness. You must not be allowed to impose some other meaning on the term than what it literally does now mean." Then somene in the Village Pump said to me that what he wanted to say was "I don't want you to". I started to think that maybe they indeed just act like a child, who feels hurt when something is not as it likes, and then starts to attack others as a protest. But if this indeed is true, then it's almost impossible to discuss complicated issues with them. And I don't know how to solve this problem. I may relent and fulfil their wishes, what I often did, but this doesn't seem to solve anything, it did not result in any agreement or ending the nonsense personal attacks. The questionable parts of the article should be discussed, but discussion ends in new personal attacks. So nothing can be seriously discussed, and other users don't dare to come to such place to solve the problems by discussion or by voting. They say that article is not NPOV, but all views proposed by anybody, for or against, are included, sometimes said if demanded that some particular view is a minority view, and there are no objections by anybody else to the parts of the text that they say are POV, one of them (attentiveness) was written by Matthew Stannard. Though sometimes maybe their aim is to add questionnable text to the article, for it then to be rejected. I'm thankful though for the contributions they made to the article, it's important to include all views there are, and most of their amendments were constructive. I tried not to reply to offenses, but this also did not cause them to change their behaviour. In other cases I replied to offenses as politely as I could. I am in terrible situation, whatever would change it, should be done. Maybe deleting the article would be a solution, but it's questionnable that deleting the article because of the behaviour of two people would be supported. I don't like to be discredited like that because of writing an article in Wikipedia, I'm not a professor in the University, but I'm still an Automatic Control engineer by education, I'm a completely identifiable person, not just a nickname, and these attacks discredit me far below the pride of ordinary person. Thank you again for wanting to solve the problem, even by that offer alone you helped me a lot. Tkorrovi 14:18, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

Thank you Angela, I should see how the things would develop, it's a bit better now. Tkorrovi 17:03, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

The Pump[edit]

I just wanted to say thank you for your excellent archiving of the pump.  :D fabiform | talk 00:30, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

Request regarding Mediation Committee[edit]

More than two weeks ago, on April 25, the Arbitration Committee referred a case to us which it had considered regarding Anthony DiPierro and a number of other user to us here.

While Anthony has agreed to mediation, so far, there has been no response from another party in order to begin working on the Anthony mediation. We have drafted a statement at User:Bcorr/mediation statement draft that we would like to post on the Requests for mediation to the Arbitration Committee and all other interested parties, but before we do so, we want to check with the rest of the Mediation Committee. Please review the statement and let me know if you approve, wish to make/suggest changes, or have another way you'd like to suggest that we proceed.

Also, in that statement we refer to ourselves as co-chairs of the committee. There was discussion at the mediation bulletin board on the bottom half of the page, but we wanted to confirm that there was agreement on our being co-chairs for the period noted there before we post the statement. Also, if people are amenable to our serving as co-chairs, I will add that information to the Mediation Committee page.

Please take a moment to comment on these issues at User:Bcorr/mediation statement draft.

Thanks, BCorr|Брайен 01:42, May 13, 2004 (UTC)

I've made a change to the statement to add in llywrch's comment. Please let me know if you object. Unless anyone dislikes this change I will pass on the statement tomorrow evening. Regards -- sannse (talk) 19:57, 15 May 2004 (UTC)

Just stupid or something[edit]

But I have looked around the place and cannot find the answer (even tried the search function). I wonder if there are whole areas of WikiPedia I have never found:

How and when do I/can I vote?

--(talk)BozMo 12:00, 14 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for answer (welcome to delete this now) --BozMo 08:12, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
No problem. I tend to not delete stuff from my talk page, but it'll be archived soon enough anyway. Angela. 14:08, May 16, 2004 (UTC)


Not sure i am on the right page or asking the right person but i am getting really annoyed with someone that keeps removing 'Nick Mason'from the Birmingham, England Musician area, i am not registered with wikipedia but i have contributed a massive amount of information since i stumbled across the page from culture to economy and famous residents, whats to stop someone from cpletely ruined all my hard work, i understand that some of my work has not been 100% factually correct and thats fine, but Nick Mason was born in Birmingham, hence, he's from Birmingham but someone doesn't like it? and i don't like it that they are removing his name all the time.

Please help. Ive even tied discussing it on the Birmingham page but no one answers. Nick

I think Nick is referring to this -- Tim Starling 01:24, May 10, 2004 (UTC)


I looked on the ip address of the person that keeps deleting Nick Mason and he has vandalised before, he has contributed to topics like 'penis' and 'micro penis' as well which speaks for itself really, i am fairly new to Wikipedia and i am learing the rules which i will definatley abide by because i think this site is fantastic, but what can i do to stop this person vandalising my work?

Cheers Guys!

Hi, if it happens again, you can try reporting it to Wikipedia:Vandalism in progress. Have you thought about logging in so you have a user name? I'll keep an eye on the page. If it continues, the user can be blocked, but it seems he is on a dynamic IP, so is likely to come back despite a block. Angela. 17:46, May 10, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Angela,

this place is like a warren to me, i have only just seen your reply by chance because i wanted to see my ip address and what it held, now i have i am confused, obviously i can see my edits to the Birmingham page etc, but why is there stuff relating to other crap which i havent even looked at that is really dodgy (to my mind anyway) and so on? This place is starting to really confuse me, i would really apreciate a reply here so i will check back later.

Thanks again Nick.

Hi Nick. I also put a copy of the reply at User talk:, but users who are not logged in don't always see the notification that they have a message. This is a reason it would be better if you logged in, so you have a permanent talk page that I could reply to you on. If you're finding the place a bit confusing, the Wikipedia:tutorial might help you. I'm not sure what "other crap" you are talking about. Do you mean other edits by your IP? This is because you have a dynamic IP, so other users will have had that IP in the past. Angela. 18:07, May 10, 2004 (UTC)

Doh! i just wrote a reply and i accidently deleted it, anyway... Thanks, i totally understand now, i have edited everything relating to Bham but the other dodgy stuff was about 'self confessed peadophiles' and 'abortion stuff' which i can thankfully say i have no interest in! I am a musician and i find it v. addictive adding my (until now) useless information on Bham culture, economy etc. I may well just join as i it seems it may be worth it.

Thanks again. Nick

Thanks for all your work on the Birmingham article. If you choose to log in, you can reassign those edits to your new user name if you want to. The Wikipedia:Why create an account? has some more information on logging in. Angela. 19:32, May 10, 2004 (UTC)

Hi again, sorry to bother you with this but this person: is still deleting Nick Mason, and now he's taken to deleting stuff on the Custard factory and even the hip hop section, can he be banned because it really is unfair, if you ban his ip address i will definately join and write you an excellent erm... write up?

Cheers Nick

I've left a note on User talk: Please try to stay calm about this. It is likely this is just a new user who doesn't understand how to use talk pages yet. Have you thought about adding some comments within the text explaining why it should not be deleted? You add them inside HTML comment tags, meaning they would only be visible to people editing the article, not to readers. For example:
[[Nick Mason]] <!-- please don't delete this, because ... --> from [[Pink Floyd]]

would show up as

Nick Mason from Pink Floyd

Angela. 21:13, May 13, 2004 (UTC)

Ok, sounds good to me. I'm not the sort of person to get really uptight about things in general but i guess this is quite close to my heart so i do fight my corner. Well thanks again and i will take your advice and register, just need a decent photo and think of something interesting to say about myself. If you need a vote or anything let me know. Cheers, Nick.

Oh dear god, this man is now editing vast swathes of my work, he has even added the ridiculously petty "Famous residents that were born in Birmingham but that never made a home there" Please, please sort this out Angela. I have done as you said and requested the page be locked for a while and Andy Mabbot keeps saying that i am abusing him which i clearly wouldn't lower myself but he has even edited the page so that it would't load properly and if thats not vandelism i don't know what is!

He has even dragged someone called Morwen into the argument, he is trying to sully my name so that he gets his own way which is really, really irritating. I have never known such a pedantic (or troublesome) person... ever.

Cheers Again Nick.

Hi A. i did as you suggested by leaving a nice polite note within the html, came back from work today and not only has this person deleted what he normally deletes but he has removed other nits n pieces, he obviuosly has too much time on his hands and he is slowly ruining my hard work, i even explained that we generally go to discussion when we want to remove or delete other peoples work.

Is there any way the page could be locked for a couple of days as i am the only creative person on the page at present, i understand that this work wont stand forever exactly as it is but to have someone demolish my work at his own free will is really sad. I think he has registered now as pig something or other?

Thanks Nick.

Hi Nick. I'm sorry this problem seems to be continuing. I've left a message at User talk:Pigsonthewing. If that doesn't help, please request protection at Wikipedia:requests for page protection. I can't protect it myself as I have been involved with editing the page, which goes against our protection policy. Angela. 20:40, May 14, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Angela,

Will try your suggestion. Nick

Nick is now threatening me, on my talk page. Andy Mabbett 13:13, 15 May 2004 (UTC)

Andy, why would i threaten anyone? I am actually quite calm and level headed but you seem to be exagerating slightly don't you think, all i ask is that you respect others work and you do have a history of deleting at your own free will other peoples work. As i have said, you would't like it if i were to begin deleting your work just because i didn't believe it to be true.

Lets compromise. "Nick Mason was born in Birmingham and is the longest running member of Pink Floyd." This is 100% factual hence no problem. Thanks Nick.

Talk:Birmingham would be a better place here to sort out compromises. All I can suggest at the moment is that you avoid making personal attacks and have a look at the wikipedia:dispute resolution pages. Angela. 14:08, May 16, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks mate,

I have tried discussing it but Andy was more intent on editing as much of my work as he could before the page was protected :( Alot has gone so i have tried discussing again on Birmingham Discussion page, i have asked for 5 things and i would apreciate your fair unbiased opinion, i can asure you 100% that i have really held back from saying what i feel to Andy, he has been warned for deleting peoples discussion now as well, i find it too controling, there are many editors on Birmingham (you included) and the discussion page really works i think.

Thansk Nick.

I'll have a look but I can't guarantee anything. Have I mentioned the dispute resolution process yet? Angela. 18:27, May 17, 2004 (UTC)

Ok, and yes you did mention dispute resolution process but i really don't think it needs to go that far, i don't really want to get involved in that side of things... i'm sure that if you get time (it's not short) you could read my post on Bham discuss page, i don't have much time to keep on running to listed members just to protect some of my work so i'd much rather reach a group decision so that it is resolved without getting Andy into any grief! Nick.

I've RfC'd it. This means it's listed at Wikipedia:Requests for comment. Hopefully this will bring the attention of some other users to the article who may have ideas about solving the dispute you are having. I realise you don't want to get involved in the dispute resolution process, but you should consider whether mediation might be useful if you and Andy can not come to any agreement. Angela. 20:44, May 17, 2004 (UTC)

Thankyou. Nick.


Hi, Angela, I appreciate your kindly attention to the ko-wikipedia. About three months ago you have helped me in revising the Allmassage. The revision is not completed. I suppose you are informed about my "malheur". Well, I am trying to set up the recently established ko-wiktionary. A main difficulty with which I am confronted is the index function. The en-wiktionary seems to function after the alphabetical ordered, self-seeking index. I've looked round wiktionary of other languages like Japanese or French. But they seem to gather words manually in indices they have apparently created for their own - even though French belongs to Indo-European language. You know, Korean is a language which also disposes of alphabet. How functions the myterious anchor "// A" ? I've tried to exchange the Indo-European alphabet with the Korean, but it goes wrong. -- 12:07, 14 May 2004 (UTC) 아흔(A-heun)

Swedish spoken[edit]

That is cool, you can your Swedish! :-) May I ask why you can write? :-) // Rogper 23:33, 14 May 2004 (UTC)


dear angela,

i was a little sad when you deleted my what i had to say {"justice=the pieces of peace"}. any way, i think you people are doing a great job. i like the idea of free access to diverse views. should you/editors delete views? i think this is where u&i have an issue. all views are of equal value in a fair system. this includes the "bad" guys. victor kacala.

key issue for your group is that it lacks balance in extreme views. even physics is merely a fairy tale. ps i hope u had a nice week-end.

Sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about. What are you claiming I have deleted? Angela 14:08, May 16, 2004 (UTC)

Multilingual meta[edit]

Ah, you might be interested in these new translation pages and international overviews on meta. +sj+ 20:40, 2004 May 16 (UTC)

I've put some comments on the talk pages over there. Angela 20:53, May 16, 2004 (UTC)

Unblocking me:-)[edit]

Many thanks, Angela, for unblocking me and for taking the trouble to explain. You've been a great help. David Cannon 20:43, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

No problem. :) Angela 20:53, May 16, 2004 (UTC)
Thanks again for all your help, Angela. Let's hope the it stays settled this time:-) Cheers!David Cannon 01:44, 17 May 2004 (UTC)


Serious thanks! --MerovingianT@Lk 20:57, May 16, 2004 (UTC)

Blank Pages[edit]

I'm sorry, Angela. I thought I was doing Wikipedia a favour by (a) bypassing redirects whenever I saw them, so that links would point directly to their articles, and (b) by blanking the redirect page, as it no longer connects with anything and is now redundant. I didn't realize anybody might have a problem with that. Now that I know, I won't do it again. Thanks for telling me:-) David Cannon 23:06, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

Pesky images[edit]

Thanks for the image delete and for trying to delete the second... --Tagishsimon

Xxos banned and unbanned...[edit]

Thank you, Angela, for 'unbanning' me.

It is possible that Wikipedia is not interested in the areas that fascinate me.

I would certainly like to see Wikipedia being more than a humdrum compendium of homogenised 'knowledge'.

Paul Annear

Xxos was repeatedly told to stop creating articles which had gone through the VfD process, but he chose to ignore the requests. RickK 03:22, 17 May 2004 (UTC)
His original articles all went through the seven-day VfD process, and had the VfD headers listed on the articles for the full seven days. He had a different account, I think it was XXoS, or something like that, but I don't remember it for sure. RickK 14:48, 17 May 2004 (UTC)


Angela, Thanks for your comments on fixedreference on the copyright page. See reply, have tried to fix your points, still working on a couple. Please have another look and see if you are now happier with it --(talk to)BozMo 09:04, 17 May 2004 (UTC)


Please see vandalism I just reverted on Simple main page. Can you block the IP of this user please? --(talk to)BozMo 10:38, 17 May 2004 (UTC)


A general note to people who may be wondering whether this user is in fact Alex Plank. You may observe that Lst27's decision to remove his self-nomination for adminship, after it had received considerable opposition, is entirely consistent with Alex Plank's behavior when nominating himself in the past. --Michael Snow 21:09, 17 May 2004 (UTC)


Hi Angela! I see you've been busy at the pump. good on you! I got a suggestion. when you move text to another talk page rather than just say 'from' blah blah, could you say 'moved from' blah blah. That way the stunned people (me in this case) in the recipient page know where the conversation is continueing.. I might be a bit slow but took me a while to figure it out! best wishes (by the way how do you do this post message form?) e 21:49, 17 May 2004 (UTC)

Post new message[edit]

thanks that was it! cool! e 21:59, 17 May 2004 (UTC)

Democratic Underground[edit]

This has been blocked for ages ages, when the edit war had died doen a long time ago. Would you consider unprotecting it? thanks. User:Neutrality

Pardon me Angela, just want to point out that the above was added by User: in case that is important. - Tεxτurε 00:46, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure it is important or not, but thanks anyway. I've unprotected it for now. Angela 01:50, May 18, 2004 (UTC)

I accept arbitration. I prefer you, but anyone can do. Thanks. Neutrality 21:21, 22 May 2004 (UTC)

Speedy deletions[edit]

Hello Angela, Thanks for putting me straight on Speedy deletions. Thanks also for the feedback. As you may have noticed I have been putting quite a lot on Speedy deletions lately and was wondering how to get some feedback on my judgement/guesses. I gather that patent nonsence doesn't included the merely trivial like characters in games. I will continue to list a few of my nominations just to explore the parameters ofr nomination. Cheers ping 07:28, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I will do that. I like your user page, makes mine look quite pedestrian. ping 07:42, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
Thanks :) Angela


Angela, I'm banning myself for 72 hours due to WikiStress over US politics. (Just so you know...) --Uncle Ed 14:38, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Admin on Meta[edit]

It's been a couple of weeks since I listed myself at m:Requests for adminship and there appear to be no objections. Would you be willing to make this so? Thanks - UninvitedCompany 16:46, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

SimpleEnglish Wiki General Disclaimer[edit]

I've done a chainsaw-and-scalpel reconstruction of this page, and I'd appreciate your feedback. I've tried to bring it down to about a grade 8 reading level and there remain only a few intractible phrases (this one in particular: " it is protected by the laws of the United States Constitution's First Amendment and the en:Universal Declaration of Human Rights of the United Nations"). Denni 19:00, 2004 May 19 (UTC)

Choice of position reply[edit]

~rather than Contributing, because I think contributing wikipedians have much money are rather american and I feel nearer rom people withoiut money and not in the USA. Arno Lagrange  09:08, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. Angel 23:44, May 20, 2004 (UTC)

Ethnic groups[edit]

Thanks Angela - I appreciate it - I hadn't seen this. Not sure I am going to be able to get much time to participate, but it's good to know that someone is on the case... ;) Hope you are well, Mark Richards 00:10, 21 May 2004 (UTC)

PS Love the pic of the day. MR

Edits to Arabic Wikipedia[edit]

Angela, why the Arabic Wikipedia? Do you know any Arabic? Or do you just do stuff that doesn't require you to know the language?

Sometimes I've done edits on Wikipedias where I didn't know the language, but (thought I) could figure out from context what was going on. Juuitchan

The only Arabic I know is the list of words on my user page there. I can tell the difference between "edit" and "delete" but that's about it. I very rarely edit on the Arabic Wikipedia anymore. I used to be a sysop there whilst it was very new because most of the things that needed doing didn't require any knowledge of the language; reporting bugs with the R->L interface, reverting vandalism on the main page etc. When it became big enough to look after itself, and got some Arabic-speaking admins, I de-adminned myself and focused more on looking after some of the small ones that still don't have sysops. Angela 05:02, May 21, 2004 (UTC)

Your sig[edit]

There appears to be an error in your sig; it doesn't show up right for me. I get a link with text "Angel" followed by a bold "a.". --Juuitchan

It's because self-links appear bold. The a is a link to this talk page, so if I sign on this talk page, it's bold. Anywhere else it looks like a normal link. Angela. 05:23, May 21, 2004 (UTC)

Docs thank you[edit]

The SQL query for docs in wikipedia are appreciated. I deleted the question and response.

Steve Holland, Kd4ttc


Thanks. Jondel 13:47, 22 May 2004 (UTC)

Table ronde[edit]

Well, I am currently busy trying to make a second powerpoint with screenshots of wikipedia, as I feel deeply no live-demo will be decent.

Wikipedia has been working well for weeks, and is not far from dead just these days. I am not sure I will *ever* go to a meeting to present WP again :-) ant

Speedy delete notices[edit]

Ah, thank you. I had no idea. I learn more about the Wikipedia all the time. Thank you for taking the time to fill me in. SWAdair | Talk 21:22, 24 May 2004 (UTC)

Ko Wiktionary[edit]

Hi, Angela,

I've written a message to you in your talk-page on ko-wiktionary. Thanks for wipe-operation through ko-wikipedia! --13:38, 25 May 2004 (UTC) 아흔(A-heun)

Thanks for the welcome[edit]

Just wanted to say thanks for your welcome to Wikipedia. It's much appreciated, and I'm slowly finding my feet around this great resource having made a number of edits and additions to articles already. TonyW 15:10, 25 May 2004 (UTC)

And a late 'thank you' from Mikez too, (aka Användare:Mike) for making me bureaucrat so fast at sv.wiktionary. I wish I got the time to do everything at once as well. (And ...hrmmm... that I remembered to do all the things I postpone during a day).
Och tack för uppmärksamheten på sv:wikipedia:Recentchanges :) Mikez 20:05, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia database inconsistencies[edit]

Howdy. Playing about with an offline copy of the en namespace, I've discovered a number of articles with identical titles. For example the database contains four articles named "Goblet_of_Fire", each with a unique cur_id. Scouting about you seem to be a SQL-friendly admin who may be in a position to correct this. Let me know if you're interested and I'll pass on details. - TB 15:17, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Wiktionary namespaces[edit]

Hi, Angela,

The word Wiktionary could be safely translated into 위키낱말사전 in Korean, so that the Wiktionary namespace wants to be called so as well the sub-text at the top of the page, which you mentioned. I don't know, whether changing the Wiktionary namespace would effect also on the button (i.e. Wiktionary란) at the bottom of the page where about Wiktionary is in general informed. Thanks for your friendly help. --17:18, 26 May 2004 (UTC) 아흔(A-heun)

Brum etc[edit]

Hi Angela, sorry to bother you but one person (begins with A ends in Y) is now pestering me and trying to wind me up, so far i have tried to stay calm and i certainly havent given a personal attack on this person BUT he continues to delete my work from the Brum page like the middle part of my hip hop section and the links to places of interest. He has deleted my conversation to him and he was warned by another user, now he is reverting the text i deleted from my user page, i don't have anything to hide but i just didnt want it there until i can figure out something more informative about wikipedia, why is this person deleting and now tinkering with my own user page??? Thanks if you can help as i am finding wikipedia quite eliteist from some members at the present and i don't know what to do? Someone even blocked me because i deleted MY own work from the brum page out of frustration, i do want it kept as it was too much hard work but...

Thanks Nick.

30,000 edits[edit]

Thanks for your reply on my user page, it's still on-going but i am taking it within my stride. BTW, your user page says that you "have made around 30000 edits.." is this really true, i mean... i'm not doubting but thats alot of edits for one human?

Cheers user:Nick Boulevard

Do you think it can be seen from outer space? like the great wall of China... "the great wikipedian edits of Angela" (although i am joking the future just might be that crazy) there is still a massive devide between people like myself that admit to going online (albeit occassionally in a day) and those (like my current employer) who have let slip they use the net regularly but ridicule those that openly admit to its common use. (He said he only uses it to buy band tickets... yeah right!] Cheers user:Nick Boulevard

Pic of the day[edit]

its just my talk page anyhow, and besides you had work to do. Whats the deal w it tho, it looks weird. It looks like a few extra }}}}'s on the end. Sam [Spade] 23:42, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanx, and good work, were lucky to have ya :) Sam [Spade] 23:56, 26 May 2004 (UTC)


I dunno, 12 minutes early is a little irregular. But seriously, thanks for your support; i'll try not to make you sorry. [smile] And thanks for all those deletions in support of moves. --Jerzy(t) 00:32, 2004 May 27 (UTC)


Would YOU meet with Jimbo and I on June the 4th at 1:00 PM at Cherry Court Hotel to talk with us about the "ESTU" project ? Arno Lagrange  09:05, 27 May 2004 (UTC)


I had only just heard about it when I mentioned it to a couple of people on IRC, and that must be how you heard about it. The story is this: the people from the Golden Nica awards want to do a short film about each winner, and so they wanted to know if they could come here and film me doing my work.

But of course, me doing my work here is a very boring thing to watch.  :-)

So I suggested that they film some of our meetings in Europe, as these will be the first time many of us meet, and it's really a big deal for our community as community. They liked the idea, and there you go.

They were planning to meet me at the airport and film me arriving, but the schedule did not work out. But I guess they will be filming me some at Cherry Court Hotel, and then going to our meetup.

You are right that people should know before they show up, in case they are fugitives or whatever. ;-) But I think that almost no one will ever see the film, it's just for the awards ceremony I think. Jimbo Wales 10:10, 28 May 2004 (UTC)


Hi Angela

Regarding the page Andrea Palladio, have you seen the page Palladio, it was put on the site after the first, I think somebody is supposed to fix a link, but I dont have a clue how! Do you? Regards Ragussa 21:14, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Uploading files[edit]

The uploading file page is pretty basic. I propose that more fields (other than the 2) be added to the upload page. Here are some of the fields:
RENAME FILE: (if file exists on wikpedia)
LICENCE: (a drop down menu)
SUMMARY: (textbox)

Can you do something about it? Nichalp 19:33, 29 May 2004 (UTC)

Actually, I didn't mean renaming wikipedia's file name, just the matching local file name, while in transition from local computer to wikipedia's server. Nichalp 20:11, 29 May 2004 (UTC)


I just saw you assinging a catagory to an article. Does that mean the catagory code is functioning? Can I use it as well, or are you betatesting it? Wyllium 10:25, 30 May 2004 (UTC)

Dear Oracle, and i came here to ask you, what exactly is the point of categories, or if you can point me a page where i can read it. MvHG 10:55, 30 May 2004 (UTC)

i found it, thanks. MvHG
Off with the stress! You got my vote! MvHG 11:17, 30 May 2004 (UTC)

Moving pages[edit]

Hope you don't mind. -- Docu

Catogories <> Categories: Danger, Will Robinson![edit]

Just noticed that you're spelling Catagory wrong when adding it to the Popes. Hoping to head you off before you get too far! - Nunh-huh 23:59, 30 May 2004 (UTC)

I figured you would, I was a little slow on the draw<g>. ah, well. Is there a discussion somewhere about how categories should be used? (People vs person, child vs children, composers vs composer, buildings vs building, pope vs popes, etc.? ) And what they might be useful for (searches?) and how this might be implemented? - Nunh-huh 00:04, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
Yes, thanks, that page helps a lot. - Nunh-huh 00:14, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

Good luck, Angela:-)[edit]

Hi Angela! I've just voted for you:-) Best of luck. It's such a shame, that 90-day rule ... I was going to line up 150 sock puppets to vote for you:-) Have I made you smile?David Cannon 02:20, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

I also voted for you - and myself of course. :) Good luck! --mav 05:25, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

Voted for you, best wishes! Tkorrovi 00:49, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I would have voted for you, but I appear to have only been here for 78 days. It feels like longer! Good luck. -- ALargeElk | Talk 08:54, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Test page[edit]

Hi Angela, I'm done with the test pages, but I believe Ed Poor made the last edits on them, so I think you should check with him. -- Cheers, Cecropia | Talk 04:29, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Wow, you are fast, i diddn't even get a chance to correct my own spelling mistakes:) thanks- Pud

Thanks =[edit]

Thank you for your engagement on the JA WT issue. I've got a mail from Anthere this morning (in JST). I replied her just before. KIZU 03:14, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hiding edit summary[edit]

Angela, I came across a rather offensive edit summary while patrolling Recent Changes. The edit in question was reverted, but it was the edit summary that was offensive. Would it be possible for an admin to hide that edit summary? Check the edit history for Zaza and look for the edit by Thank you. SWAdair | Talk 08:48, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Oh, my goodness. After posting the above I checked that user's contributions. There are quite a few and every edit summary is identical. SWAdair | Talk 08:54, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Feature picture nomination[edit]

Thanks, Angela, for a couple of things. First, people have been saying "make 'em bigger, make 'em bigger" without saying how much bigger. And I refuse to weigh in with a 1.3Mb picture. My standard large image is 4" wide, but it's just as easy to do 300px wide. If 400px is no problem, I'll even go there. I just don't want to be making it impossible for people with more modest machine resources to have memory issues. Second, thanks for the support on this image. I could go back to the top of that hill and live than moment forever. Good luck on the election - my vote is cast and I'm going to be disappointed if you don't win. Denni

Song/humor/namespaces/head spinning[edit]

On the eve of probably becoming an admin, I thought I'd finally figure out some of those things I'd never quite figured out. Buuuuuut--I haven't completely managed to sort out the whole namespace thing. After reading the descriptions of the Mediawiki and Wikipedia namespaces, I still don't get why there's some wiki-related humor in both; why there are categorized lists of wikipedians in both; nor how to search in any specific namespace. For example, I know that there are humor pages about wiki/wikipedia/wiki articles in the Wikipedia namespace. I can't find them. I don't know how to search for them, apparently. I would move The Web Encyclopedia Song to one of the namespaces but I'm not convinced which is really the best location to move it to. Anything you can point me to on any of these issues that will help me sort it all out? Thanks! Elf | Talk 04:16, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Deleting discussion[edit]

Sorry for deleting the administrators discussion - this was purely by error, I hadnt noticed I was back at en: ;(

Thx for noticing and restoring it! TeunSpaans 07:41, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Something weird at VFD[edit]

FYI, What happened was the user:Everyking had blanked the page by accident. Sorted now :) Dunc_Harris| 10:32, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Angela. 12:40, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)


for your well-wishes during my wikivacation. I appreciate your comments, especially as it is you who have (with a few others) been the model I have sought to follow as a Wikipedian since arriving here. I wish you the best of luck in the current election, and hope you know that, regardless of the results, you are much appreciated in this place: without you, we would be much diminished. I hope you will consider these few words my inadequate expression of thanks, not just for a kind note left on my talk page, but for all the occasions I have received good advice from you, or learned how to deal with difficult situations by observing your approach to them. Happy editing, Jwrosenzweig 20:09, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Message for Jimbo[edit]

No major changes, just added list of people with views: "Colo wants $125 to reseat the heat sink/fan on Will. Seems worth doing to Jamesday and TimStarling. jfbeam not keen on the price (nobody is), saying personally, he wouldn't pay it. Others haven't yet been around to express an opinion." If it turns out that you didn't get this until after the meeting, no problem.:) Jamesday 05:31, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

One more revision: "Jason says colo wants $125 to reseat the heat sink/fan on Will. Seems worth doing to Jamesday and TimStarling. jfbeam not keen on the price (nobody is), saying personally, he wouldn't pay it. JeLuF plans to discuss this with Jimbo on Tuesday, by which time we hope to have the view of Silicon Mechanics about whether this will invalidate their warranty and knowledge of whether the hardware has their return to base warranty or an on site warrantly of some sort. Brion expressed no preference. Others haven't yet been around to express an opinion." Jamesday 08:47, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for being the relay service.:) Jamesday 02:40, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Request of Admin[edit]

I have been hesitant to vote on RfA, as searching through a user's contribs to look for good/bad is a lot of work. Do you have any pointers about this? Or other places I would look? Burgundavia 10:58, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer, that does help a lot. Burgundavia 06:27, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Sysopping & Questions[edit]

Hi Angela, thanks for the info message on my talk. I had a quick admin question that I wanted to run by you. I see on WP:PP that several sysops have protected their user pages for obvious reasons. I planned to do this as well, but I wanted to ask if there would be any problem with protecting Template:Jrwm and Template:Jrwma as well. These are templates I use in welcoming new users, and are quite specific to me like the subpages are. I assume there's no problem with these protections, but I want to take my first admin actions nice and slow so I thought I'd ask first. Thanks again!  – Jrdioko (Talk) 05:00, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I'll definitely read through that and take it into consideration.  – Jrdioko (Talk) 04:24, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)


The online version of the quiz is fantastic, so I guess the meet version was too. Thanks so much for doing it. Pcb21| Pete 11:47, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Klingon Angela[edit]

Your (brief) Klingon self-introduction at tlh:User:Angela is grammatically incorrect. Would you like me to correct it for you? (To something along the lines of "tlhIngan Hol vIyajbe'. en:User:Angela yIHotlh.")

I'm not sure what your view is on editing a user page "belonging"/referring to you, so I thought I'd ask. Though now I come to think of it, I did edit your Toki Pona user page slightly.

Another reason I thought I'd ask first is that, perhaps, an ungrammatical sentence is a better way to say "I don't speak this language" :) -- pne 13:42, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Feel free to fix it. I have no objection to people editing my user pages. The majority of my user pages in other languages are probably ungrammatical and quite a few have been kindly fixed by people who speak the language better than I do. Angela. 04:10, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Bonjour, testink testink vun too free! - Mark 04:15, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Hi Angela,

I just saw, that you will also come to Berlin. I look forward to meet you there. Will you be there all 3 days?

There are also a lot of people offering places to stay over night (if we find time to sleep at all ;-) Elian and me will stay at Necrophorus place. I think there are still many offers open.

See you in Berlin,

Fantasy :-)

I replied via email. Did you get it? :-) Fantasy 09:38, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Thank you. I did get it and sent a reply. Angela. 09:51, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

List of publications in science[edit]

Hi Angela,

First, I must say that I'm very impressed from the work you did. How did you avoid the need to sleep and eat ;-)?

I do not understand some of the changes you did to article I worked on. Why did you remove the link to list of publications in science from science. It seems to be the most suitable place for it.

Removing the word important form the title is ok but not required. There are many publications. We should not list all of them. On the other hand, the importance of the publications is implicit so the new title might be better.

APH 13:01, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Myriads of edits[edit]

How do you do myriads of edits? What do you *do*? How do you find enough stuff to write or whatever that you can have so many edits? Juuitchan 23:56, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)


I almost deleted this page because it contains a link to MW:delete, and so it shows up on the "Whatlinkshere" for it. You may want to disable the link if you don't want it to show up on the "Whatlinkshere". Cheers! - UtherSRG 11:50, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I will do. Thanks for letting me know about it. Angela. 12:20, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)


I had to add another to the requests for mediation, for refusal to acknowledge a personal attack. I've already attempted multiple times to resolve the conflict privately. Is there a more effective way to go about resolving this conflict? (and such future conflicts as may arise) (For context, see Talk:George W. Bush and the page history of User_talk:Bkonrad.) Or should I just go ahead and post yet another RFM? Kevin Baas 18:14, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Thank you my friend. PMA 09:59, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Angela, why did you remove two user's comments from the help desk? →Raul654 15:29, Jun 12, 2004 (UTC)

<the unnamed>[edit]

I'm reluctant even to mention his name (lest he appear in a puff of acrid smoke) but I'm slightly concerned about the copyright status on a photo <the unnamed> uploaded (Image:SkaraBraeExterior.jpg). All I remember about him is his being more than a little unpleasant, but did he have a habit of uploading stuff and falsely claiming it was PD? That photo is on Featured Article History of Scotland, which (pending rewrites) should end up on the homepage soon, and I want to be sure there aren't going to be any problems with it. Thanks. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 01:54, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)


I wanted to offer my congratulations for your landslide victory in the Board of Trustees election. I can think of no one better suited for the job. Good luck! blankfaze | •­• 21:22, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Congrats from me too Angela, I'm sure you'll represent us well. Dori | Talk 21:36, Jun 13, 2004 (UTC)

I was hoping to be the first to congratulate you, Angela, but two others have beaten me to it! I am truly thrilled that you've won, and I know that you'll represent our interests better than anybody. {{{HUGS}}} David Cannon 22:31, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Let me also add heartiest congrats! Couldn't have happened to a more deserving and trustworthy member of the community. Fuzheado | Talk 03:46, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I too would like to offer my sincerest congratulations/most solemn condolences on your election to the board (I'll let you the most relavant one). I'm sure you'll do an outstanding job. →Raul654 04:19, Jun 14, 2004 (UTC)

Dear Angela, congraulations for being elected. I have had the opportunity to read your policy statement in full, and like to hear all the great things you're doing and will continue to do. Have a good weekend in Berlin too. from EuropracBHIT 04:34, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I would also like to offer my congratulations. Do you have a fan club yet? :-) --Phil | Talk 08:35, Jun 14, 2004 (UTC)

Please tell me when and where its first meeting will be held? :) Congrat's from \Mikez as well!

Congratulations, 축하합니다. It's fine to hear that you are elected! -- 10:41, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC) 아흔(A-heun)

Congratulations, Angela. I haven't seen the official announcement yet, but I got the gist of it from the other comments above :). I may not be as effusive as the others, but I'll say that I liked your position and am glad you were elected. -- pne 14:50, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Time to carve up your piece =)

It is clear that your overwhelming success was imminent. Onward, Comrade! --MerovingianT@Lk 15:50, Jun 14, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, congrats - well deserved. Hope you're partying in Berlin! Warofdreams 17:51, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Congrats from me too... even if you did beat me. =P --Delirium 19:56, Jun 14, 2004 (UTC)

Well done and congratulations, ping 07:54, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'm a bit late in joining in the congratulations, but I'm someone who had very little doubt that you would win. I divided my vote between very good candidates for the other position, but I did not see anyone more worthy than you in the position you have been elected to. (I was relieved when you chose not to run for both positions, because this allowed me to vote for someone else besides you). Best of wishes in the year ahead. ~ Kalki 22:02, Jun 17, 2004 (UTC)

Congratulations Angela!!! I know you will do a brilliant job, enjoy it! Hanna V

Congratulations, Angela! May you be a wise leader in all your endeavors ;) Neutrality 03:40, 19 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hi Angela, it's KatieP! Congratulations once again. Hope I am doing this right!

Congratulations on your election. Belated, of course, but nonetheless appropriately congratulatory. And deservedly so, perhaps. ;) -Stevertigo 02:51, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks everyone! :) Angela.


May I offer a wee smile that an anti-deletionist has a deletion bot? A kind smile, of course : ). A suggestion - /ng/, as you have no need for me to tell you, is always hard, unless followed by e or i, and since your name has a handy 'e'... That way, /ang(er)/bot (or 'angst'bot, as if...) becomes /ange(la)/bot. I hope you come to love your little bot too. She is doing an important job, and it is better that bots do the vandal-erasing than humans. If you have done a good job in programming her, she will not disappoint you. Denni 02:27, 2004 Jun 14 (UTC)

No problem, wee bot. Nothing about Wiki should be hard. Wiki is a soft place. an/j/bot works fine for this occasionally too bottic user. Denni 18:47, 2004 Jun 15 (UTC)

Elections and football[edit]

hope Angela, that your return trip was fine and that you are full of energy. We missed you on IRC yesterday evening.

Since you are british, let me tell you a little story that happened yesterday evening. When results were officially announced, Jimbo nicely came to on the french channel to tell us. The channel was rather quiet then, probably because it was in the middle of the football match. I was busy with the kids, so was not much around when he got there first.

While I was near the computer, I heard it bipping, and came around the screen. I saw the results were official. While I was answering to Jimbo and thanking people, my husband got a champaign bottle he had hidden in the fridge, called the kids so that we could all have a drink together. I must say that my husband is at the same time very proud and totally in despair. So, he said he was celebrating the position, and me leaving the family. My daughter took it for granted, and I had to spend a good while with her later on, as she was crying in her bed :-(
Anyway... just as he was putting the wine in the 4 glasses (yup, the kids had some too), there was a horrendous tremor in the whole appartment, and screams in the street. The people in the appartment above were making a pogo danse above our head. And some ceiling parts fell on our carpet, just next to the glasses. I thought "this is probably football good news for french team". I looked on the irc screen, and yes it was the penalty. We just had the time to pick up the glasses, while a second earth quake occurred (the long lasting consequences of the penalty), but fortunately with no damage this time :-)

There is a french/celtic saying, reported in belgian Astérix books "Nous n'avons peur que d'une chose, que le ciel nous tombe sur la tête" (we only fear that sky fall on our heads). Yesterday, litteraly, sky fell on my head :-)

I hesitate going to see the neighbours to tell them about the consequences of them jumping in their living room :-) ant

Nice User page[edit]

Can you help me out a bit on making my page look as nice? For example, why doesn't the formatting toolbar show up when I edit /my/ page? Thanks for any help. Ilyanep 20:32, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Miscellaneous comments and congrats[edit]

Of course, before I say anything else, congratulations on your election: you've taken enough compliments from me in the past few months to imagine how pleased I am that you will be representing the masses on the Board. Good luck.

On a completely unrelated topic, I am wondering if you will offer me your thoughts concerning a trip I will soon be taking? I am honeymooning in Rutland in mid-July for a week (after which a few days in London), and my fiancee and I are not very familiar with that part of England. We will be without a car (can't swing it financially), and so will be wholly dependent on public transport and walking to get from place to place -- we don't know what sights would be best worth seeing, as guidebooks over here tend to be long on descriptions of the big cities and relatively short on the quiet rural areas. I asked advice from Finlay when I was at his talk page for other reasons, thinking for some reason he was English -- he informed me that, as a Scot, he really can't advise much at all, but suggested three Wikipedians who he thinks live closest to Rutland. I know you best of the three, and I've recently intervened in a dispute between the other two (I do think they both still like me, but it's always hard to say), so I've decided to ask you first. Certainly I don't want you to go to any trouble on my account, but if there is anything you can think of that might be good to see (or if you have any tips on using public buses in England), it would be more than welcome. A note here, on my talk page, or emailed to me, would be very fine, and if you don't have time (with your new responsibilities, etc.) please don't worry about leaving anything like an explanation -- we'll have a wonderful trip regardless, I am sure. Thanks for whatever help you can provide, and congratulations once again on your new position. Jwrosenzweig 22:17, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Formatting Toolbar[edit]

I get it on some user pages (when I click edit), but not on mine and some others... Ilyanep 14:18, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Cleanup thanks and a question and...[edit]

Hello Angela -- thanks for cleaning up the RfM page! And I'm just curious about GrazingshipIV's leaving there a page or diff I could look at? And congrats again -- it's simply brilliant that you and ant are on the board! -- Peace, BCorr|Брайен 16:08, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hitler protection[edit]

Why was the page protected before an edit war? Is that apre-emptive strike, or what? Who requested its protection? If it was danny I question how fast it was protected after he reverted... Sam [Spade] 03:24, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)

USA (band)[edit]

Thanks for your feedback.

Sorry for the delay in response - I've been ill with the flu.

this is going to sound weird, but:

The page re: USA (the band) you pointed me at *is the VERY page I wrote*


Somehow, someone (not me - I'm such a noob at all things wikipedial I wouldn't know how!) changed the title of my article so it would appear. *BIZARRE*. But I thank who ever that was, in absentia.

I've tried searching for it in wikipedian Google, but it doesn't come up yet. Oh well. I guess they haven't spidered that page yet.

I'll be adding more articles on cultural oddities and obscurities over time.

I wish you all the best.


Henry Warwick

One flying cat[edit]


I say goodbey... like everytime before!

Crypto categories[edit]

Thanks for your help in categorising cryptography articles — cheers! — Matt 11:50, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Proof of identity[edit]

'loBaudelaire 12:12, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

A technical problem on ko wiki[edit]

Hi, Angela,

there is a technical knotty point on ko wikipedia as well as wiktionary. Since days the namespace "wikipedia" is suddenly there instead of the ko-translation of it. All pages which have the namespace 위키백과 resp. 위키낱말사전 appear empty. Would you check up it (see e.g. ko help page). --12:31, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC) 아흔(A-heun)

I seem to have missed something...[edit]

What happened to User:GrazingshipIV? His user page and talk page are deleted, and I can't pull up his user contributions. The deletion log has no record of it, so it predates the 19th of June. Did something weird go down that I missed completely? Jwrosenzweig 19:30, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Well, I've been informed it was at his request. I'm a little troubled, though. I found one of his edits in a page history and it was credited to "Former user", which apparently was at his request also. The problem is, when I try to view Former user's contribs, they don't show up -- must be a database thing. But it makes me very edgy as to how this works under the GFDL -- it's now impossible to track Grazingship's contributions. If we found out he'd been adding copyvios, I see no easy way of finding them and excising them. I don't know...the whole thing is a little disturbing. I'm surprised there wasn't more discussion somewhere for such an unusual request that has such important impact. Do you have any thoughts on the matter you'd be willing to share with me? I wouldn't ask, but as my rep on the board (you'll probably get tired of hearing that soon!) I figure you've been thinking about issues like licensing and angry users, so maybe you've considered this. Jwrosenzweig 22:35, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Your comments make perfect sense -- thanks for taking the time to explain. I would agree that it's something the community doesn't need involvement long as we can retain the kind of "formeruser1" identity you mentioned. If someone's choosing to do this eliminates any way of tracking their edits systematically, then I think that's an important enough problem to have the community discuss it in the abstract, though once a policy was agreed on, I imagine we could stay out of individual cases. Your point, though, that it's just someone choosing to be anonymous, has definite merit -- if we can keep those contributions together somehow, that would be ideal. Thanks again for your note, Jwrosenzweig 23:50, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)
May I indicate that Former User was also the name given to a french who decided to quit and had his edits anonymised this way ? Hence, the current former user is at least 2 peopleSweetLittleFluffyThing 00:29, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Ok, I'll speak to Tim about this. Perhaps just a normal name change as per Wikipedia:Changing username would have been better. Hopefully this can be done for future cases. Angela. 00:34, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
There's a new policy on this at Wikipedia:Account deletion. Angela. 14:44, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Namespace on ko wiktionary[edit]

Hi, Angela,

Yesterday after having been asked the namespace problem on ko "wikipedia" is at once solved. But wiktionary has always difficulty. All indices suffer from it. Thanks. --10:18, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC) 아흔(A-heun)

Tim Starling is working on this now. Hopefully they are all restorable. Angela. 14:44, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Some questions from a newbie[edit]

Hi Angela-

I have some questions, and asking them at help desk didn't answer them all for me. I thought i would see if you know some answers. Hope you don't mind.

  1. Is there a way to count all your contributions, and see how many there are?
  2. Is it possible to view pages from other parts of wikipedia all on my en.wikipedia watchlist? It would be really convenient to be able to watch certain de.wikipedia pages alongside my en.wikipedia watchlist
  3. If someone has uploaded a picture to de.wikipedia, is it possible to make include the picture in a en.wikipedia article? or do i have to download the picture from de.w to my computer, and then upload from my computer to en.w, and then include it in the en.wikipedia page?
  4. what's the process for getting a page deleted?

thanks for your help Lethe 11:07, Jun 24, 2004 (UTC)

I am now administrators[edit]

Thanks for taking care of promoting me ( on en. too a few weeks ago ). And yeah, according to you i am now administrators(plural) so i should be capable of even more work, cheers. --Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 11:42, 2004 Jun 24 (UTC)

Oops. I shall have to learn some more Icelandic before making any more admins. Angela. 13:35, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for making me a bureaucrat (singular). :-) Hopefully we three will reduce the time you have to spend on RFA, allowing you to write about things you love more often. Have a good day, Jwrosenzweig 00:08, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Don't answer if you are just reading this in a hurry[edit]


thanks to you, Andy Mabbett and G- man i am still here on Wikipedia and it gets more intrigueing by the week, people are strange when your a stranger as Jim Morrison sang and Wikipedia is a perfec example.

So one question, obviously your photo is there to see for one n all and it possibly only enhances your port folio here if most of your wiki admirers were to be honest but... do you actually read all your questions on here and do you work full time, (are you angeling for a position on Wikipedia)??? i wonder this as i find it very difficult myself working full time and revisiting forums, web sites, email addresses and so on with peoples comments to me let alone responding and keeping up with my own life and anti-internet activities. I have tried talking about Wikipedia to friends and they find me quite strange for it so i keep it to myself now, i think it is healthy to keep a foot in every door you may ramble across as you never know when you may need to use that particular exit.. ishut up now as i may be drunk!!! Nick Boulevard 22:57, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC) p.s. thanks to G-man for providing me with info on how to sign with the four ~'s

Welcome back[edit]

Welcome back after your period of online deprivation! And if you're reading this on Saturday instead: naughty!:) Jamesday 09:41, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I am reading this Saturday despite people running about moving boxes around me. I'd better go now or they're going to pack me into the van... Angela. 10:21, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Cleanup template[edit]

After some though and lots of time I finally found out how to reply to your comment on Template talk:Cleanup. I am letting you know I replied by posting here as you may have forgotten about that debate :). Thue 13:12, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. It seems a fair argument. I'll be interested to see if anyone does object. Angela. 18:44, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Pic of the Day archive?[edit]

I see that Template:Pic of the day/Archive has the archive of which pics have been used, and I also would like to see an archive of the actual pages that you compose in the postcard-like format that gets used in expanding {{pic of the day}}. Maybe you could just add links to them to Template:Pic of the day/Archive ? I really like the presentations that you compose to complement the images. - Bevo 14:10, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)