This user is in the Penguin Cabal

User talk:Anomie

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigation Jump to search


Sanity check[edit]

Could you make sure I didn't say anything stupid/wrong in [1]? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:35, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

@Headbomb: The "as if it were a different user" bit isn't entirely accurate, since it implies that the "bot" is still logged in to its own account and OAuth is working like some sort of sudo. In reality, OAuth is a way to just be logged in to an account without having to know the account's password. Anomie 21:44, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, how would you describe this? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:53, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
As used there, "OAbot" is not terribly different from an edit like Special:Diff/902822949 where you used AWB. The fact that the tool also runs on its own as User:OAbot seems somewhat confusing. Anomie 13:24, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

May I ask you to look at one of my edits, please?[edit]

In Causes of the Holodomor, Consequence of collectivization an editor added a {whom} in a slightly odd place, while there is an appropriate ref at the end of a not very long sentence. Your bot quite appropriately added a date to the {whom}, which is a neat feature, thank you.

The editor also commented "This is written like some Marxist historian's opinion. please name him."

I looked at the ref and discovered that it was all in Ukrainian -- even though it is similar to Russian there are some differences -- but I could make it out well enough. So I translated the author etc, checked with Google to make sure, and then for fun ran the archived PDF through Google, and it did a pretty good job. (It's horrible at French, a bit of a joke, in fact.)

The author of the ref actually took quite a critical view, far from a Marxist one, not surprising given that he is a Ukrainian historian,

So I ended up with a somewhat odd looking ref and because you are such an experienced editor, and also run bots, I wondered if you might take a quick look, it is just one reference.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Causes_of_the_Holodomor&diff=next&oldid=911022588&diffmode=source

Many thanks!

= Peter NYC (talk) 03:43, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Peter NYC: Personally I'd have used one of the citation templates such as {{cite web}}. Those templates have parameters for handling translated titles and such. As for the citation itself, there's probably no need to link to Google Translate (people can do that themselves if they need to) and I'd think MOS:CQ and MOS:LQUOTE would still apply to the “революції зверху,” bit. You might ask for more advice at an appropriate noticeboard, perhaps WP:Village pump (miscellaneous) or WT:Citing sources. Anomie 10:52, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
Thank you very much for having a look! I didn't write the piece, or the original ref, so I missed the quotation marks and punctuation when I did the translation; fixed those. Normally I would have used a cite template but got a bit confused, and will have another close look at the documentation to see how to deal with this.
The reason I linked to the Google translation was that at the web archive you can't just right-click and get a translation, all it does is translate the English header. So people have to know that they can copy the URL from the web archive and stick it into Google Translate, and from my experience that's not something many people know. As you suggested, I'll take this to the Village pump.
== Peter NYC (talk) 03:46, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Why ask you[edit]

Thanks for taking a look at the DYK thread I pinged you in, and sorry if it was confusingly out of the blue. You're one of the only people I know who's up to speed on mediawiki development, and thought you'd know if something changed recently or who would be better to ask about any recent changes. WT:Notifications seems like a good, bet so thanks for pointing me there! Wug·a·po·des​ 22:51, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

It's no problem. MediaWiki development is a pretty wide field, and Echo isn't one of the parts I pay much attention to. Anomie 23:09, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Moving a page[edit]

Hi. Since you are one of the administrators, I thought you would be able to move this page for me. The title that I wanted to move it to, which is the artist's first name, already exists as a redirect, yet it seems to be the common name based on her pages on social media and music platforms. There's also no existing discussion or RM on the article's talk page. Could you move the page to "Karsu", please? Keivan.fTalk 00:59, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Try WP:Requested moves. Anomie 02:17, 31 August 2019 (UTC)