User talk:Antiochus the Great
Greetings,good article.HCSS 2014 report describes Italy as a great power (it's a very important source and very recent).It's difficult today describe a perfetc great power except for the USA.Italy (and India may be even it's global position it's weaker) can be added in the flags of today great powers.Greetings again)188.8.131.52 (talk) 08:49, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- I read the HCSS 2014 report, and I only saw it mentioned the USA, EU, China and Russia as great powers. Maybe I missed the part where it called Italy a great power, could you tell me what page number it is on? Thanks. Antiochus the Great (talk) 09:16, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
It was post in overlaps of Middle power article.It has been removed.Also the italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi and many newspapers named Italy great power in the last times(Italy has "beaten " India in a long lasting international argue).You are a very good english writer.Theoretically it's difficult to distinguish great powers at the described levels.Just Canada is border line for demography and military.Germany and Japan are better than France, UK and Italy for economy and demography but not for military or cultural power.Russia lacks totally for economy and partially as cultural power.China lacks for level of life and same India that is much worse in economy (above all in net national wealth that is more important than nominal GDP).USA are the perfect great power as single country. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 09:38, 14 June 2016 (UTC)220.127.116.11 (talk) 09:31, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
At pages 15-16 and others there are even garaphics.Italy is set like Germany and Japan.Now it'd be correct according to the HCSS definition setting Italy in the list with flags.I'm bipolar like W. Churchill and i'd like an opinion otherwise i add.Silence means yes in latin.18.104.22.168 (talk) 10:21, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you for telling me the page number! You are correct, Italy is included in the same rank of Great Powers as Germany and Japan. So yes, we can use the HCSS report in the article supporting Italy as a great power. Also, I agree with everything you said above, it can be very difficult to distinguish great powers, but we have to do our best with the sources we are given. Thanks for your help. Antiochus the Great (talk) 13:19, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Next citation in italian testifies what i wrote. Here the former italian President of the Republic Francesco Cossiga (no source can be more official) declares that in Italy is common acting to use statal secrets (in this article he talks about nuclear weapons B61 type 3,4 and 10 in the italian military air base of Ghedi that can be delivered by italian IDS Tornado of the 6th wing;he says they are officially US but he says also that the order to the use them is formally decided by the italian President even if it depends in the reality on an italian commission with political and military people) in the whole military system (other nuclear weapons even italian not officially declared included; he even says there could be some french or british warheads in Italy) writing nothing or telling lies .
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British politicians like Churchill and Eden may have imagined the UK was still a superpower after World War II, but in reality this was not the case after Lend-Lease and the Atlantic Charter. (22.214.171.124 (talk) 19:05, 15 July 2016 (UTC))