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I've redirected Iman Wilkins to Where Troy Once Stood now and removed the merge tags. Cheers, Yomanganitalk 10:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for mentioning your recent edits to Where Troy Once Stood. They were very useful to me. I have made some adjustments to Geography of the Odyssey, including a mention of de Grave's book and a reference back to Strabo. I will have to look at what Voss said. Best wishes Andrew Dalby 15:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Where Troy Once Stood[edit]

This article is in the categories 'History of England' and the 'History of England' among many others. These categories are in the 'History of Europe' category. Having this article also in the 'History of Europe' category means double level categorization--frowned on by WP category guidelines. Hmains 22:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


It was annoying that references to Théophile Cailleux were redirected to Where Troy Once Stood, because that article doesn't say anything useful about Cailleux. So I have written a brief article on Cailleux.

If you want to add to it some information about how Where Troy Once Stood agrees with, follows, or differs from the theories of Cailleux I would be very happy. Or indeed anything else about Cailleux, if you happen to know. Happy New Year! Andrew Dalby 17:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Fleam Dyke[edit]

Hi there. As you originally wrote this article, I wonder if you could help clarify the point I've raised on the talk page? You described the dyke as running from Fulbourn to Blasham, but then mentioned a section in Fen Ditton; I'm guessing you meant that the dyke was originally longer than the section that remains today and that explains the difference, but if so the article doesn't explain this very well, and I don't want to edit it myself without checking in case I've got the wrong end of the stick and am introducing false information. Best, Iain99Balderdash and piffle 13:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, the name was first recorded in around 950 as "Dittone", meaning "the village by the ditch", derived from the Fleam Dyke, the prehistoric ditch that passed through the village from the river to Stow-cum-Quy and can still be seen just to the east of the village. The name was later changed to its present name to distinguish it from Wood Ditton. (from WP: Fen Ditton), Antiphus (talk) 20:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Cheers. A bit more searching reveals that the section near Fen Ditton is indeed part of the same structure, though unfortunately the sources I found (mostly just brief snippets from Google Books) don't make it clear whether it was originally continuous, or whether it was always missing a section around Wilbraham Fen (where it wouldn't have been needed so much). I've edited the article to make this a bit clearer. Best Iain99Balderdash and piffle 21:37, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Old edit in: Johann Heinrich Voss[edit]

Hi, on Sept 27 2007 you added "In his Alte Weltkunde (1804) he argued that the Odyssey most probably describes certain landscapes in the British Isles." to the article on Voss (or Voß). The text by Voß is online pages 245-414 and of course Voß writes nothing like that. Voß mentions Britannia, but writes explicitly, that it wasn't know until several centuries after Homer and even then only in the vaguest form. Certainly no detailed landscapes that could be recognized today. At the end of his text he reports interpretations by others and mentions a Danish author called Jonas Rasmus, who claims that Homers island Aiolia had been in fact "Olia, Olbion, Albion, auch von Odysseus Gefährten Brutus Britannia genannt." (pages 412/413). He finishes his quotation of Ramus by the verdict on the author: "Belesenheit und Witz haben auch im Missbrauch ihr Einnehmendes" (knowledgeableness and esprit are engaging even in abuse).

Do you have a source for your edit? Or should I revert it? --h-stt !? 18:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey H-stt, thank you for finding the Alte Weltkunde online, which makes it possible to study it first hand. Not having read the entire part yet, this far I suppose you're right about the edit not being correct. It was probably misread and, as far as I'm concerned, you can feel free to revert. Cheers, --Antiphus (talk) 08:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Done - could it be, that you had the information from Wilkins: "Where Troy once stood"? I found several faulty claims that well known authors were supporting his interpretation of Homer in articles on Wilkins and the book in several Wikipedia versions. Wilkins seems not to be trustworthy when he cites other works. --h-stt !? 14:53, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I indeed got the information about Voss from Wilkens. Are you suggesting that he misquoted Théophile Cailleux as well? It might be wise to check this source too? --Antiphus (talk) 15:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't think so, Cailleux should be represented correctly. But it might be wise to label the citation of Caileux as taken from Wilkens, with the page number in Wilkens book, if you never saw an actual copy of Caileux. "Blind citations" are considered bad style. rgds --h-stt !? 12:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Holland quotation in Where Troy Once Stood[edit]

Sorry I haven't been around for a while. The issue with the quotation from Tom Holland is that it begins with a capital letter in the original article, so we shouldn't change that without indicating that we've done so. But the square brackets were a bit ugly, so I've dealt with it by removing the unnecessary word "ever". EALacey (talk) 19:13, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Rotterdam Blitz[edit]

Answering your message on my talk page: It's a moot point now since the phrasing is now different. However, previously you had something like "Hooton disagrees with conventional wisdom" (regarding how the destruction was caused). Because that is a specific, contentious allegation, it needs to have supporting citations right next to it. Other citations in other paragraphs or parts of the article might support what you say, if so, re-use them right next to your phrasing too. If you don't, it's impossible for the reader to know what is supporting what you are saying.Hohum (talk) 20:55, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Gog Magog Downs[edit]

Is this on your watch list? I'm not available much for a while, and I see it's just had some Wilkens stuff added to it. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 12:33, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Also, 'topological proof'? Isn't 'proof' a bit strong? Dougweller (talk) 12:35, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know and yes, I suppose you're right and 'proof' is too strong. I guess 'indication' would express it better. Regards,--Antiphus (talk) 20:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

And thanks for your help with both. Dougweller (talk) 04:56, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


Many, many thanks for this, it is much appreciated. The first article that I've identified as necessary is Johan Arnold Bloys van Teslong, although there are some others that I will bring up in due course. What I'm also hoping to find is someone on either wikipedia able and willing to create articles for the Dutch ships engaged at the battle - do you think you will be able to make some enquiries and let me know? Sadly I speak no Dutch at all (although I do have passable Spanish).

Your assistance really is much appreciated, and if I can ever do anything to help you then please do not hesitate to ask - I have a number of reciprocal working arrangements with people on Wikipedia like this and it is always a pleasure to make another. Regards--Jackyd101 (talk) 23:36, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome; it really is my pleasure, and thank you for your promise to offer help if I need it. To already name one thing; I would like it if you'd check the article Johan Arnold Bloys van Treslong for any odd phrases, crooked sentences etc, to improve it's readability. In the mean time I will see if I can find material concerning the Dutch ships at the battle and if you have any other articles for translation let me know. Cheers--Antiphus (talk) 19:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Thankyou very much, that article is excellent and I will go over it for any grammatical issues soon. One question I do have, is whether Gerrit Verdooren van Asperen was at Camperdown? If he was, can you look at him next? In addition, I was wondering whether there was any mention of the Dutch admiral "H. Reijntjes" who appears in British sources on the Dutch wikipedia? Again, many thanks and kind regards, --Jackyd101 (talk) 01:09, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I found quite some information about both of the names you mentioned and about the Delft. From now on, before using this information to expand and or start new articles I will write what I found on my user page so the information is available sooner. Most of the material about Verdooren van Asperen and the Delft that concerns the battle of Camperdown is already to be found on my userpage but there's more to come about admiral Hermanus Reintjes. Cheers--Antiphus (talk) 11:35, 7 March 2010 (UTC)


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Bronze Age pottery sherd from Isles of Scilly could be earliest British depiction of a boat[edit]

More than most archaeological periods from pre-history, Britain’s Bronze Age is constantly being re-assessed as archaeologists and historians find new evidence of its richness and complexity.

Now the boundaries of what we know about this increasingly sophisticated period are being pushed even further by a small pottery sherd which is currently on display at the National Maritime Museum in Cornwall.

The piece of pottery was found during archaeological excavations of a Late Bronze Age roundhouse on St Agnes, on the Isles of Scilly, in 2009, and some archaeologists believe it clearly shows etched lines that resemble a sailing ship.

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Quarles van Ufford[edit]

Thank you so much. Could you please expand it by adding the names of notable people bearing this name and also please add references/citations? Thank you so much!Zigzig20s (talk) 12:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for expanding it. Would you be able to create some of those red links please?Zigzig20s (talk) 17:07, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Any one in particular?--Antiphus (talk) 09:37, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

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