User talk:Antonielly

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Hello, Antonielly, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!  Deckiller 19:00, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Snow words I've ever heard[edit]

This is not a good idea. The list is a hoax (gristla - deep fried snow or MacTla - snow burgers) and if you follow the link at the top of the page you linked to it can be seen as such. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. We all make mistakes and I have several notices over mistakes (worse than that) I made. By the way I don't speak the langauge either but "gristla" was such a give away. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Minority language[edit]

Hi Antonielly,

I responded to your comment at Minority language if you'd like to take a look. Sorry so late – I just noticed your comment. Better late than never, right? Cal (talk) 05:13, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm glad I could help. Have a great day! Cal (talk) 01:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)



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This is an automated message from CorenSearchBot. I have performed a web search with the contents of Hyper/J, and it appears to be very similar to another wikipedia page: Hyperj. It is possible that you have accidentally duplicated contents, or made an error while creating the page— you might want to look at the pages and see if that is the case.

This message was placed automatically, and it is possible that the bot is confused and found similarity where none actually exists. If that is the case, you can remove the tag from the article and it would be appreciated if you could drop a note on the maintainer's talk page. CorenSearchBot (talk) 10:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Hyper/J[edit]

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I have nominated Hyper/J, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hyper/J. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. VG 11:12, 15 October 2008 (UTC) VG 11:12, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Consensus reached[edit]

I have created the article Hyper/J, copied the contents of Hyperj to it -- that is why CorenSearchBot had accused the content duplication --, and then replaced the contents of Hyperj by a redirect to Hyper/J. The better action would have been for me to click on the "Rename" button of Hyperj and then rename it to Hyper/J.

Fortunately, the article creation was noticed by VG, whom suggested article deletion due to the fact that Hyper/J is a discontinued software unlikely to receive further coverage.

In the discussion about the article deletion proposal, my suggestion, merge with Subject-oriented programming and redirect, was accepted by consensus. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hyper/J for details.

The interesting part of this is that, hadn't I created the Hyper/J article to replace the former Hyperj article, the poor contents of the Hyperj article would likely still be floating around without being merged to Subject-oriented programming. The community editing process does cause content changes that would never have been predicted by any individual editor. This is complexity theory in action :) . --Antonielly (talk) 01:27, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The Chinese Language: Fact and Fantasy[edit]

This section was refactored to include all the discussion (about the article The Chinese Language: Fact and Fantasy) I had with User:ㄏㄨㄤㄉㄧ, a user indefinitely blocked for blatant personal attacks and sockpuppetry. His posts here are anonymous edits (IP shown below), since he as a registered user is indefinitely blocked.

The only refactoring I have done here was to turn former sections (created by that disruptive user on this page) into subsections of this section.

For more information about the disruptive edits of User:ㄏㄨㄤㄉㄧ, see the pages of another editor harassed by him: User talk:Alvestrand#John DeFrancis and User:Alvestrand/DeFrancis notes.

The Chinese Language[edit]

Thanks for fixing my error on The Chinese Language: Fact and Fantasy. This is a campaign by User:ㄏㄨㄤㄉㄧ (and apparently only by that single person), who was blocked for sockpuppetry after an unrelated discussion; I'm blocking his IPs and reverting his "contribution", but in this case I reverted to the wrong version. --Alvestrand (talk) 16:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

WRONG. almost every single sound in chinese has over a dozen homophones, with few exceptions. this is not engilsh, antonielly. maybe you should stop drinking. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Antonielly, it appears you could not answer my response on the talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:32, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

It seems that Chinese guy has a hidden political agenda, and intends to make up a "Rebuttal" section as a way to assign the Chinese language (and the writing system) the status of a "special language",

there is no single chinese language. therefore how can i be promoting it? OWNED

Context and homophones[edit]

you were wrong. mandarin is not like english. because of the shear amount of homophones, meaning cannot be drawn from context if every sound was written the same

Headline text[edit]

after you stop drinking, maybe you should actually look at my edits on the article and see if i claimed the chinese languages and writing system was the best?


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OWNED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Alphabetization and collation[edit]

I am inviting you to comment, in your capacity as an informatician, at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Alphabetization and collation. -- Wavelength (talk) 01:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Portuguese personal infinitive[edit]

Hi Antonielly,

In the Differences between Spanish and Portuguese article, you wrote: There is a verbal conjugation named personal infinitive which exists in Portuguese but is absent in Spanish. It can always be replaced by the pronoun 'que' followed by the same verb in the imperfect subjunctive.

The personal infinitive seems to be a rather complex and confusing subject. I have a Portuguese grammar book that states in certain cases its use is obligatory. For example, É necessário termos paciência. Can this be replaced by the imperfect subjunctive as É necessário que tivéssemos paciência?

Thanks, FMSZ (talk) 08:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

"...Although I can understand Spanish quite well, I am not proficient in actively communicating in Spanish, so I have a doubt: could I say "La recepcionista nos pidió (para) que esperásemos." instead of "La recepcionista nos pidió (para) que esperáramos.?"

Yes, you could use either one, though esperásemos is less common than esperáramos. However, para isn't used after the preterite (pidió), only the imperfect (pedía). Perhaps the following section could be expanded:

Imperfect subjunctive versus pluperfect indicative[edit]

A class of false friends between the two languages is composed of the verb forms with endings containing -ra-, such as cantara, cantaras, cantáramos, and so on. Spanish has two forms for the imperfect subjunctive, one with endings in -se- and another with endings in -ra- (e.g. cantase, cantara; were I to sing), which are usually interchangeable. In Portuguese, only cantasse has this value; cantara is employed as a pluperfect indicative, i.e. the equivalent to Spanish había cantado (I had sung). Although there is a strong tendency to use a verb phrase instead in the spoken language, like in Spanish and English (tinha cantado), the simple tense is still frequent in literature.

Also, I think a Portuguese speaker wrote this section, and was being overly cautious when they said "are usually interchangeable." I can't think of an example where the Spanish imperfect subjunctive -ra-/-se- is not interchangeable. If no one objects, I'll remove the word "usually."

FMSZ (talk) 15:24, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Erlang (programming language)[edit]

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An article that you have been involved in editing, Erlang (programming language), has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Erlang (programming language). Thank you. Fikusfail (talk) 04:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Comment (computing)[edit]

Hi there, I saw you disagreed with my redirection, which is fine. I did look over this before I redirected, and the only content I can see that's not already in Comment (computer programming) is the mention of word processors having an annotation feature. I also didn't think that was appropriate in a merged article -it might be appropriate to mention it in Word processor, but it's not quite the same thing as the rest of the material. I don't see that we need to merge anything, so I don't see much use in waiting, but I'll hold off to let you look for merge-worthy content if you wish. However, please do so quickly - we don't need two articles on this subject, so we should endeavor to complete the move. Gavia immer (talk) 14:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

I have finished the merge process. You are right, there weren't much to transfer (basically only the comment about comments being annotations), since some time ago I had already transferred the "See also" section, the external links, and the categories. I wasn't able to integrate the information about Word processor comments, therefore I transferred it to the article's talk page. I am sorry for making you spend time discussing that no-problem. Thanks for your message. --Antonielly (talk) 14:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Nothing to apologize for - I just saw an old merge discussion that hadn't been completed; I didn't realize you'd been working on the merge process. Thanks for doing that work, and thanks for trying to merge as much detail as possible. Honestly, I always expect someone to pop up and object when I redirect or merge articles, but the only way to find those objections is to be bold and try it. Consequently, I'm never put out of sorts by seeing it happen. So long as we agree that it should redirect now, there's no more to be said. Gavia immer (talk) 17:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


Gratias pro su parolas benigne re io. Io... habe que rubescer! Ma... si tu vole parler re mi "importantia" al Interlingua, lege mi pagina in le wikipedia interlinguistic, me manda un nota illac, e lassa nos parlar re Interlingua in Interlingua.  ;) Almafeta (talk) 02:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)


I have restored the text and history of the article here. Singularity 01:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Feature-rich listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Feature-rich. Since you had some involvement with the Feature-rich redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). K7L (talk) 20:40, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Quixotic plea[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Wikipediholism test. Thanks. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 03:49, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

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