User talk:Aratuk

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I'll wait and see how it goes. Style-wise, you should switch from that blue box to a blockquote-type thing, like on Journey's End (Doctor Who). — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 21:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

I think a box quote is a little more appropriate when you're producing a statement that has overall value to the section, rather than one that flows naturally with the descriptions in the section. For instance, in the "Plot" box quote, it somewhat interrupts the synopsis to provide an insight from the writer. In that sense, it behaves more like an image. Are there style guidelines for this? If so, I'd appreciate it if you could link me to them. Aratuk (talk) 23:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Manual of Style (text formatting) should have something. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 23:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't mind, though I believe it's awkward. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 01:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
It's slightly less of an eyesore. The blue box is a big old "look at me" sort of thing dragging off reader attention. This is slightly less so. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 07:28, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

1st fem novel, etc.[edit]

In Oroonoko, the statement is undoubtedly true. I was at pains to dismiss the folderol that it's the first novel by a woman. There is no claim that it is. Instead, it says that it is among the first novels and among the first by a woman. There is a lot to discuss there, for those so inclined.

  1. The statement that it's the "first novel" is a mid-20th c. chestnut, and it's derived from the idea of a 3rd p. POV narrator and a biographical model for the tale.
  2. If we take away those requirements, we allow in the epistolary novels that occurred earlier, as well as the picaresque novels that occurred earlier.
  3. If we do that, we have many candidates earlier, not just the one you mention.
  4. In fact, we can count many of the Romances as "novels," as well as the Hellenistic novels.

Therefore, the Oroonoko article needed to indicate its status: it's among the first to take up that bildungsroman model that mid-20th c. critics thought defined the novel (in contrast to Behn's own earlier novel), but it's not the first. It's among the first of that model to become successful and inspire imitation (a "mother of the novel"). It's also one of the first to essentially present a stage play as a prose novel, which, after 1737, would become more and more common.

The article did not claim it as first. It claimed that it was among the first, and it did this because the shelves of libraries around the US, UK, and Canada groan with reference books that will call it "the first novel" and "the first novel by a woman." For a general reader, they need to know that such reference works were not insane, but they are not right. Simply striking the statement does our readers a grave disservice, as well as Mrs. Behn. Geogre (talk) 12:46, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Harvard Crimson[edit]

Thanks for fixing the links to the newspaper in the Harvard article. I'm currently going through and cleaning up FCS (I-AA) teams and completely missed them! --Geologik (talk) 01:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

You maybe interested in the Article Rescue Squadron[edit]

I noticed that you are part of Category:Wikipedians against notability.

I would like to invite you to join the Article Rescue Squadron. Although Rescue Squadron members do not share any official position on notability, and are simply focused on rescuing articles for deletion, you may find our project matches your vision of Wikipedia.

Caveat: I am writing this as a wikipedian, not as a representative of Article Rescue Squadron. Ikip (talk) 19:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

File:WorldMilitarySpending.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Vquote[edit]

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