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Archive please[edit]

Buddy, archive this page please. I'm dying here waiting for it to load completely. --Viren 18:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Archived as ordered, Sir! AshLin 11:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

WIkiProject Lepidoptera[edit]

Hi AshLin! I just want to make sure that you know that I will give you all the help I can when you start setting up the WIkiProject Lepidoptera, if you need me. I might be able to give you a few bits of advice from the experience of initiating the WikiProject Arthropods. So please give me a sign if I can do anything. I would be more than happy to assist! Peace, IronChris | (talk) 19:15, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


Hi. I'm responding to your question over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Arthropods under the heading "Categories". This is a fundamental matter, and one I've brooded over since I came on board. Peace, Dyanega 17:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Diff between Butterflies and Moths[edit]

Hi AshLin,

I'm very impressed with your Indian butterflies project.

I am unsettled about the article Difference between a butterfly and a moth; I've left some comments over there. It seems to me that you can make a fairly clear taxonomic distinction between the two. Could you enlighten me? Thanks, jrcagle 19:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright for Yuwaraj Gurjar[edit]

Image on death row - contributor needs to add copyright info

Shyamal 11:10, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Lepidoptera[edit]

Hiya! I absolutely love this idea, but there's one problem...
Er, you put it in article namespace. It needs to be in Wikipedia: namespace instead.
If you need help moving it, let me know. :)

~Kylu (u|t) 01:47, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, done!
There are different "namespaces" on Wikis, the "main" namespace on Wikipedia has all the actual encyclopedia entries, "talk:" has discussions regarding those entries, "wikipedia:" contains administrative pages (such as your WikiProject), etc...
A comprehensive list of namespaces and their uses can be found at Help:Namespace. Very useful link.
If you have anything else I can help you with, I'd be happy to! Just ask. :)
~Kylu (u|t) 02:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Almost forgot, your project is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lepidoptera now! Heh, might help if I told you that, huh? ~Kylu (u|t) 02:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Page is up[edit]

Was on the page this morning before your mail. Looks good to me. I dont have the mind space to read into it and check it with the vision we discussed. Most probably next week I'll have some space to think through stuff. --Viren 09:26, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

images, Xylocopa[edit]

Just noticed your Xylocopa question, and also relaized I never answered about images: first, if you have non-butterfly photos from India, I can generlly ID at least to family. As for Xylocopa, like most bees, the females can sting, the males can't. Indian Xylocopa are no different. You'll note that I'm co-author on the most recent list of Indian Xylocopa: Gupta, R.K., Yanega, D. 2003. A taxonomic overview of the carpenter bees of the Indian region [Hymenoptera, Apoidea, Apidae, Xylocopinae, Xylocopini, Xylocopa Latreille]. pp. 79-100 in Gupta, R.K. (Ed.) Advancements in Insect Biodiversity. Agrobios, Jodhpur, India. Peace, Dyanega 18:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Lepidoptera[edit]

Hey, you just asked me to join the new wikiproject. I'd be glad to, do I just add my name or is there some procedure? Also, is there a more specific box for our user page? All I see is the arthropod one. --Kugamazog 04:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I've just seen your comment in Talk:List of moths. This is the first time I've heard of the Lepidoptera Wikiproject so count me in! I have been adding articles, mainly UK moths but recently European butterflies as well, for about 18 months though I don't get as much time to do this as I would like and a pooled effort would, I am sure, be more rewarding. I have also done some genus pages (check out Hepialidae for a completed family and Coleophora for my most ambitious single project) including a few for other insect groups. Also check out Category:Lepidoptera food plant lists for another of my big ideas!

I tend to take a rather "scatter-gun" approach to adding articles so some focus probably wouldn't go amiss! 08:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, Wikipedia logged me out at the wrong moment! I am Richard Barlow 08:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Eacles imperialis[edit]

Hey, I noticed you edited the page, but as a link at the bottom, you put Sphingidae and the species list, but Eacles is in the Saturniidae family. Was that intentional or should I correct it? --Kugamazog 09:55, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


Dear AshLin, thank you so much for your kind words and guidance. I am a newcomer, and it will take me a while to get used to Wiki. I was just browsing and saw that there are so few photographs on the site with regard to Indian Butterflies. I am a bit crazy about photographing them and have photos of most of them, and this can be seen on my site, Butterflies of Karnataka so that you can guide me how best I can help the site. Thank you. Santosh 16:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

thanks from --Thameen 14:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[edit]

Thank you for editing the biodiversity in Israel.Palestine. I will soon edit it accoringly.

U r very nice.

Congrats on the paps[edit]

Hey dude, You've really bit the bullet and done a huge set of articles in the pap section. Awesome work. I'm still not completely back online will need a little more time. Am still coming in once in a while though. --Viren 08:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


Hi AshLin! Sorry, I forgot to update myt list of WikiProjects; I saw to that! For userboxes, I created mine mainly by copying another and changing the parameters. You can find all the info you need to create your own on Wikipedia:Userboxes (in particular Wikipedia:Userboxes#Designing a userbox). For the codes for colours, see Web colors (HTML color names and X11 color names). If you want, I will do it, but I won't be able to for a few days (I'm moving from Canada to France for the vacations). I hope this helps. IronChris | (talk) 22:06, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Userbox WPLepidoptera[edit] just got on here and saw that IronChris was showing you how to do the userboxes...
I went ahead and made one for WikiProject Lepidoptera for ya. It's all made and pretty and referenced in WP:UBX so people know your WikiProject exists now. :)

Just put {{User WPLepidoptera}} on your page and you'll get this:

WikiProject Lepidoptera
This user is a member of
Wikiproject Lepidoptera

Hope you like it! (Tell me if you want to modify it, I can show you how!) ~Kylu (u|t) 02:14, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Classification of Satyrinae[edit]

Hi there, yes, I will try to put the complete classification there, but I apologize if I take some time. I am in Wikipedia very rarely. Congrats for the Lepidoptera project!, --Carlosp420 16:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Indian Cuckoo[edit]

I added an ogg file of the call in the article. I found an application to convert from wav to ogg for Windows. Dont know if this sounds proper. If you have an ogg player do try the call and let me know how it sounds. Thanks. Shyamal 04:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for testing it. I recorded it with my digital camera which runs only from 1000-5000 Hz. I used CoolEdit FFT filter to remove some part of the range and then did a noise reduction. Shyamal 08:17, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Oleander pupa[edit]

Noticed you added a temp line to the hawkmoth stubs. Did you find the daphnis nerii pupa?? --Viren 03:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Moth stub approved[edit]

I'm on it. Will take a wee bit of time. Should be done by 11. --Viren 03:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

You are now the proud owner of {{moth-stub}}

Check out [[Category:Moth_stubs]].


Wikipedia has a blinking Atlas.png Showing the greek god atlas. Change the name of Atlas.png on commons to Atlas_moth.png or something that doesnt clash with anything on wikipedia. Else we use a different image --Viren 04:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Bracketing in scientific names[edit]

A scientific name is proposed in a published description of the species. Typically the author (Dr X) of the publication (in year 2005) describes it and says how it is looks like already known species and either puts it under an already described genus or creates a new genus for the species. Another person (Dr Y) may come along in the future (year 2006) and look at the descriptions of various species and then rename the species by

  1. moving the species to a different genus
  2. deciding that this species was already described elsewhere prior to the description by Dr X and therefore invalidate this new species

altogether other scenarios exist but this should suffice. In the case of moving to a new genus credit is given to Dr X for first describing the species but his name and year of publication are enclosed in brackets. [1] If the genus into which it was described by the author is still valid, then the author name and year are left unbracketed. Shyamal 06:47, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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Campaign indeed[edit]

Great work ! That was quite a military assault on the Indian lycaenidae ! Shyamal 03:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


Your contributions on Butterflies are noted.

Had you also considerd making contributions to Wikispecies? ShakespeareFan00 08:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

new lep stuff[edit]

Hi. I thought you might like to know that I edited the page on urtication so it now refers to caterpillars with urticating hairs - a thing so common, it was a surprise to find that it was not mentioned on the caterpillar page, so I added some text there. You'll see that I even devoted a new page to the saturniid genus Lonomia, which has the most deadly venom of any caterpillar, and probably of any insect - maybe even of any animal, if dose is taken into account. Now to find other pages which need to be made to link to that page. Peace, Dyanega 02:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Another one to point out; there was nothing on the page for Arctiidae that explained the variety of aposematic systems they have evolved, so I added it, including a reference that dispels the old myth about tiger moths "jamming" the echolocation signals of bats. Hopefully that will keep anyone from attempting to put the myth in Wikipedia as if it were true. Dyanega 22:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Abisara fylla[edit]

Why can't I see the image in the taxo box ??! A firefox problem i thought but it happens in IE too. Perhaps the taxobox folks are doing some changes... Shyamal 04:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for your message. I agree it is long overdue to fill in the gaps in the Lep families - I've added a few in a haphazard way but there are some huge gaps - I'm on the side of the little guys and its time some big micromoth families like Gracillariidae, Lyonetiidae and Tischeriidae found their way into the spotlight! There are also some big families in the other major orders that need adding so I will be dividing my time (as usual). Richard Barlow 12:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Charles Thomas Bingham[edit]

Thanks to Robert Nash, Ulster museum (User:Notafly) we now have this bio. You might find it of some interest... Shyamal 05:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

My opinion about WP Insecta[edit]

Hi AshLin! This is what I posted on Dyanega's talk page about WP Insecta, in response to one of your posts:

Hi there. If I may give my opinion, I don't think there is a need for WP Insecta. Insects represent the bulk of the activity on WP Arthropods, and taking that away would just about make it an inactive project (I have yet to see many spider or crustacean people). Secondly, the problems relating to insects are much the same as they are for other arthropods, and can easily be dealt with under the same project. And lastly, having multiple wikiprojects will make it more difficult to get all the information and tasks together, as they will be spread out all over the place. Already we have to refer to WP Tree of Life sometimes, imagine having WP Insecta having to refer to WP Arthropods in addition... It could get quite messy.
I appreciate the necessity for WP Lepidoptera since there was already an embryonic group that just lacked the official name and there are rather specific issues concerning Lepidopterae (is that the correct plural?), but I think insects is another matter. Take care and keep up the great work, IronChris | (talk) 12:42, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


Hi, welcome back ! sic means as is usually to indicate that it is actually in error. But I don't know if that is a good idea to list all possible misspellings of scientific names as synonyms. Shyamal 11:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

A note from the place we visited[edit]

[2] Shyamal 05:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Sad news. Krishna Narain, (KN) who you met is no more. Died in an accident at the place last evening. Shyamal 04:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

References in butterfly articles[edit]

Hi Ashwin, I think the references in butterfly stubs should only be added if they are of really being used in the article. Lepindex needs to be cited in the format suggested by them when we incorporate name changes. Shyamal 04:25, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Improving Fish related articles[edit]

Hi Ashlin. I see that you are a member of Wikiproject: Fishes and I was wondering if you are interested in helping to improve fish related articles (in particular Goldfish and Ryukin). QuizQuick 21:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Species to look out for[edit]

Look out for two regional specialities - the Himalayan Salamander Tylotriton verrucosus and the relict dragonfly Epiophlebia laidlawi ! cheers Shyamal 03:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Snake scales[edit]

So, you wanna write an article on snake scales? (I saw you mention this on Shyamal's talk page). I've been thinking about ways to do this myself, although I'm kind of busy at the moment describing the Viperinae (and the associated genera and species). When describing the scalation of a species, I often wish that there were articles to link all of those technical terms to.

One way to do it would be to create one long article describing snake scalation in general and all of the different variations. However, I think that article would eventually become way too long, especially when you start to add illustrations for everything (scalation gets pretty wild sometimes). Also, such a long and general article wouldn't be something to link individual terms to; only to mention in a "See also" section.

Another way to do it would be to create lots of smaller articles for the individual scales. This way you could add plenty of information and illustrations to each article without having to worry that it would become too much. You could perhaps organize all of these with one central article that would have an introduction and a list all of the different scale types and terminology involved.

If you want to be really serious about this, you'll find yourself a good book or two on the subject that you can cite as a reference. Sure, it may seem dull to be quoting (but not plagiarizing!) the same book(s) all the time, but if you do it properly, at least other people will take you seriously as well. --Jwinius 23:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

... I agree with your view regarding annotation though I lament it because in my opinion it adds 'noise' ...

Noise? You mean those little numbers? I don't see that as much of a problem for the readers -- more for myself when I try to edit the articles afterwards: it's a mess! :-)) Yes, working this way makes writing a little slower, but you get used to it. But, the upshot is that nobody will question your sources anymore.

... for the vast majority who may not want such accuracy. ...

This is silly. Of course people want it to be accurate! If they thought otherwise, they would not bother reading the article. After all, these articles are meant to be factual -- not entertainment. I've spoken to a number of people who don't even bother with Wikipedia at all any more, simply because they believe it isn't accurate enough. That's terrible! We should all do our best to convince those people otherwise, and saying where you get each piece of your information from (so others can check up on it if they feel like it) is the best way there is to achieve this. For more information about this method, check out Footnote and Wikipedia:Footnotes. In the latter, I always the the "Multiple uses of the same footnote" format. See also Wikipedia:Verifiability. --Jwinius 16:50, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ashlin! Just wanted to alert you to a small inaccuracy related to your Snake scales article. Specifically, your Ocular (scale) article explains that this term refers to "the scales of a snake which touch the eye-sockets of a snake." I don't believe this is true. A quick check with Google seems to confirm my suspicion that "ocular scale" is just another word for brille or spectacle. Collectively, however, the pre-, post-, supra- and subocular scales are often referred to as circumorbital scales, or simply circumorbitals.
I've got your snake scales article on my watch list, so I'll probably make more comments like this from time to time, but otherwise I think you're doing a fine job. Keep up the good work! --Jwinius 15:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Don't know if you've noticed, but I've made some changes to some of the scale articles and added a new one. Take a look at these: Labial scales, Rostral scale, Mental scale, Ocular scales and Supraocular scales. Ocular (scale) is now a redirect to Brille (the more popular term). Also, I created lots of redirects for each; this will make it easier for us to (further) split up an article (such as Labial scales) later on if we think this would be a good idea. Anyway, after that I was so pleased with myself, that I went ahead and linked a bunch of articles to them. :-) What do you think? --Jwinius 22:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

No offense, but why do you create articles with names like "Temporal (scale)", when they can just as easily be given names like "Temporal scale" or "Temporal scales"? At least those terms are regularly in the articles. The way things are now, you either still have to create the appropriate redirects, or use cumbersome wlinks like "[[Temporal (scale)|temporal scales]]" in the articles. --Jwinius 22:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Try Inkscape[edit]

Hi Ashwin, the snake scales are looking good. Try inkscape you can have the image and superpose text in vector format. That makes the text render better when resizing. Shyamal 08:40, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Confusion ?[edit]

Is there a mistake in that the Amphiesma stolata images have been repeated in Atretium schistosum ? I believe what you have in those images is Amphiesma stolata. Shyamal 10:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Labial (scale)[edit]

Thanks! Have removed wiktionary flag per your information :) --Bookgrrl 12:24, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Big set of butterfly lifecycle images on queue[edit]

New stuff Keep an eye on this and use at will. Shyamal 04:17, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Echis carinatus[edit]

I saw that you've had added/replaced some images on the E. carinatus page: Excellent!! I recently came into contact with a fellow named Al Coritz, who graciously allowed me to copy many photos of his extensive viper collection from his website for use in Wikipedia. That's where the images for E. c. multisquamatus and E. c. sochureki come from, but up until now we had nothing for the nominate subspecies, E. c. carinatus. But, thanks to your efforts, we've now filled in this blank too. Thank you very much! I've also used your first picture for the Echis page, since Echis carinatus is also the type species for Echis. Also, check this out: Echis carinatus at Wikimedia Commons.--Jwinius 10:37, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ashwin. Good to see you around. I have responded to that pat. It should actually go to Saleem Hameed. You can see how his skills at professional advertising photography produce those samples. More photos on that queue being organized right now. Shyamal 11:19, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Image check[edit]

Please check if the image on Tirumala septentrionis (the gallery one ) is really of this species. If not feel it needs moving. It was marked as dark blue tiger, but I am unable to ascertain it. Shyamal 08:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi Ashwin,

Long time no hear but see lots of work ! I have now stepped into the broadband-wagon... And next month I plan to speak at a BNHS-BirdLife meet on the need for free biodiversity info.. the lack of 'work of government' kind of act in India and how so little is available to help Indians appreciate their biodiversity. And how at least a few crazy individuals can do what is unavailable from government and non-government organization meant to do that work. Will send you the presentation material once I have it ready. My alma mater, at least itse entomology department has been sensible enough to understand and have contributed lots of images... more to come. In the meantime I have become a big SVG fan thanks to Inkscape. Let me know if you need any particular free illustrations. Shyamal 05:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


Jaap Winius <>
I make no secret of it: may name and this address are all over the Internet. However, I run my own mail server and maintain a pretty mean spam filter, so if your message gets rejected, let me know and I'll add your address to my whitelist. --Jwinius 13:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, you're on my whitelist! --Jwinius 15:41, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


I generally draw the illustrations entirely on my own. Inkscape has a trace option. But it does not manage to simplify images as a human would. Shyamal 14:47, 24 September 2006 (UTC)


Today I've made a series of edits to the Daboia article. In the process, I've removed some of the things you added, rephrased some others and I need to ask you a few questions.
First, I removed your mentioning of the dRVVT test because I don't think your reference is good enough. Actually, I mentioned the dRVVT test in my earlier version of this article (back in May of this year), but I later removed it myself for the same reason. The point is, I'm still not 100% sure that venom from D. russelii is used in this lupus anticoagulant test; maybe it's just a name. I haven't found anything yet that explains how this test was developed and whether venom from this species is actually used for it. I've asked a pathologist friend of mine about it, but so far he hasn't been able to help me either. Aarrhg! Attempting to achieve a high level of honesty (accuracy) in research is sometimes very frustrating.
Second, I removed your other venom statement "The venom acts as a depressor of the vasomotor cantre and a destroyer of blood." What this says (in a fancy way) is that the venom is hemotoxic and tends to lower your blood pressure. However, that's already covered in the rest of the section. If you've read any of my other Viperinae article, you may have noticed that I've avoided the subject of biochemistry in the Venom sections. This is because toxinology (toxicology dealing with venoms) is a very difficult subject and I don't even trust myself to make any sense of it (let alone write about it) before I know a lot more. Therefore, I suggest that it's better for us to stick to easier subjects such as amounts of venom produced, the toxicity (LD50) thereof, envenomation symptoms and statictics. That way, we're less likely to make fools of ourselves. :-)
Third, a question:I expanded the info for the Daniels reference you gave. Does that look right? Daniels JC. 2002. ...
Fourth, another question: regarding the captivity info you added, does Daniels say whether the adult specimens that refuse to feed are wild-caught? I'm certain that's the case, but if Daniels doesn't say so, it means we'd be making an assumption. In that case, I suggest we remove this statement, since it is currently at odds with the one before it. Right now we're saying: "This species does great in captivity, but many adults refuse to feed." :-))
By the way, I haven't received your email yet. It got rejected the first time and you have to resend it now that I've added you to my whitelist. --Jwinius 17:12, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

And one other thing: are you going to create the necessary redirects for all of those Indian common names you added to the Daboia article? --Jwinius 17:17, 26 September 2006 (UTC)


Great work ! That was a real marathon. Shyamal 00:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Indian naturalists[edit]

Ashwin, the good news is that there is a growing interest in contributing to wikipedia in the biodiversity area. We need to start some kind of place for coordination and helping each other. Any suggestions ? Shyamal 14:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

DVD courier[edit]

Mail me your Pune address and phone number so that I can courier a DVD. Shyamal

Thanks for the welcome[edit]

Thanks. I already did an opus about the Mission blue butterfly, over the last couple days. Let me know what you think.A mcmurray 19:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Gracias for the comments I will bear them in mind as I work. Thanks for restructuring and such too, I will model further articles after it. : ) A mcmurray 18:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

What's the deal with Charaxes kahruba ?[edit]

Hi, I randomly came across Charaxes kahruba and the text looks very strange to me. At first I thought it might have been a blatant copy from somewhere, but perhaps not? Can you explain where the first draft came from exactly? What does "Flight. Bask. Resting. Mud-puddling. Flowers. Bait. Unpalatability. Mimicry/model. Association with ants. Seasonal Abundance." mean - it's not exactly flowing prose ;) Also, the "host plants" are listed as being a, b and c. Similarly the habitat is given as "Where, altitude, season". It's all just a bit puzzling. If these are kind of "placeholders" (like, you intend to later on replace "where" with the name of an actual place), then there are better ways of doing this: either use comments that don't show up on the rendered page, or put your rough working on the talk page, rather than the article page. Thanks - don't hesitate to ask if you need help or anything. Stevage 23:44, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

It was a non-informative template for aiding editors. I Removed the sections.Shyamal 01:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Wow, ok, talk about confusing! Stevage 03:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Shyamal, for overseeing while I was away. Regards, Ashwin

Evan's Lycaenid list[edit]

Hi AshLin, User AshLin:Evan's Lycaenid list is wrongly created. I am moving it to User:AshLin/Evan's Lycaenid list as it looks like you wanted to create it in your userspace. Please let me know if there is any issue. -- Lost(talk) 15:42, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Comments on the Lepidoptera article[edit]

Hi AshLin,

long time, no news! I hope your editing is going well, and that WikiProject Lepidoptera is developing nicely! I left some comments for the improvement of the Lepidoptera article at Talk:Lepidoptera/Comments. As I say, it's nearly there, but a little work needs to be done on it to get to A-class level, in my opinion. I thought you might be interested by my comments. IronChris | (talk) 00:42, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks like you did find some time[edit]

I could not find page 68 of Bingham volume 1 in the djvu file. It has Papilio dravidarum description. Wonder if you can add that from some other source. Also help needed with Dasia haliana perhaps with info from Smith (no info in Boulenger). It is a nice stub with a lovely image waiting for more info. Keep in touch. Shyamal 11:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

A very happy new year ![edit]

Wishing you a very happy new year. Hope you will find more time in the new year. Shyamal 05:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Please reply[edit]

Hi Ashlin I am Chnadan Jyoti Gogoi from Digboi,in Tinsukia district, Assam.Of course a newbie, I have been working on butterflies of Digboi and Margherita ( a nearby town)from last september. We have formed a group called "butterfly northeast" which plans to create a checklist of each and every area of the northeast.The coordnator of the group is Maan Barua, a ABNambro Sanctuary award winner.Our group has an newly created a website called " []". The site is incomplete. We hope start updating it by April.To complete this site we need help from everyone.I have been using your butterfly list to guide our group. On the other hand we can also provide you with required photos. I just want to know from where you bought the field guides? These books are not availble here in Assam.If can you buy the books for me I will bear the trouble of buying, cost of the books and posting at my cost. Can you? please.

Contact me at Everyones invited.Advices are always welcome. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cjg d (talkcontribs) 08:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC).

Hi Chandan, you'll have to ask if Meena Harinal and Kunte are available at a number of bookshops in metros, such as Calcutta, Delhi, and Pune. Also try on the internat. Evans and Wynter-Blyth are out-of-print.AshLin 13:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)


Hi AshLin

      Thanks for replying. Hope to keep in touch with you.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cjg d (talkcontribs) 04:10, 6 January 2007 (UTC).

Illustrations needing ID[edit]

Hi Ashwin, see User_talk:Notafly. These are Robert Templeton watercolours of Sri Lankan butterflies. The Lycaenids and a couple of the Neptis need to be identified. Shyamal 15:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)


There is a new proposal on naming conventions for fish being discussed at WikiProject Fishes. As a member of said project your feedback would be appreciated at the WikiProject Fishes talk page here. Cheers, David. MidgleyDJ 07:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back[edit]

Sorry, my cell coverage is real bad and breaks down bad. Maybe the landline would work better. Let me know when you get to base. Shyamal 14:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

FAC stubs[edit]

Thanks! The article is Verbascum thapsus.Circeus 20:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Australian Painted Lady[edit]

Thanks AshLin for the identification. As per your suggestion I started the article and will add to it as I have the chance (unless someone else beats me to it). I'm a recent transplant to Tasmania from the US and I've still got a lot to learn about Tasmania's native flora and fauna. Any little bit helps. KeresH 10:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)