User talk:Asher196

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Hi, I just wondered why you undid my revision to the pacman listing. Any lyric search will confirm what I said. Go easy on me as this is the first time I've tried to edit a Wiki page. I'm not sure this is the right place to contact you either.. sandomenico69 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandomenico69 (talkcontribs) 16:59, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Connecticut Sun uploaded pictures[edit]

Hi, you marked my pictures for speedy deletion. I have already discussed some of this with Ian. The pictures you marked, you said that new free-use pictures could be taken of the living people in the pictures. That is correct, but some of the pictures is about more than the people. It is about the event. For example, one of the pictures was taken during a Finals game in 2004. Clearly, a new picture cannot be taken of something that happened in 2004. Another was taken in 2005 at a one-time event. Again, a new picture cannot be taken. Hope you can help me out with this situation. Thanks! Nickv1025 (talk) 03:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't think I can help you. The policy is pretty clear on this. "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose. Where possible, non-free content is transformed into free material instead of using a fair-use defense, or replaced with a freer alternative if one of acceptable quality is available; "acceptable quality" means a quality sufficient to serve the encyclopedic purpose. (As a quick test, before adding non-free content requiring a rationale, ask yourself: "Can this non-free content be replaced by a free version that has the same effect?" and "Could the subject be adequately conveyed by text without using the non-free content at all?" If the answer to either is yes, the non-free content probably does not meet this criterion.)" The admin who will review the deletion request will decide what to do, although non-free images of living people are almost always deleted. Asher196 (talk) 03:54, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Alpena Light[edit]

Thanks. Very nice addition. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:44, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

Asher, I've made some additions and corrections. Please take a look. (I know you will, anywayz.) 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

LaVan Davis, unresponsive user[edit]

I've warned the user on his or her talk page and submitted an application to have the article locked so IPs can not edit it due to's action, however it is unlikely the administrators will lock this article the first submission. If problems continue I'll repeat these steps, however I doubt once the IP receives the message on their user talk page and realize what could happen if they continue to add original research and unverified claims they will continue. Additionally I'll put the article on my watchlist. UniversalBread (talk) 00:35, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Asher196 (talk) 01:01, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
No problem, the article has been locked to avoid further vandalism. UniversalBread (talk) 19:30, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Cameron Tate[edit]

I'm sure you've come into contact with this user numerous times and are aware that they appear to have no intentions here on Wikipedia other than to add copious amounts of original and just generally inappropriate information to various articles within the free encyclopedia. After seeing your recent revision of this individual's edits I have decided to make life on Wikipedia just a bit easier and report this user to an administrator. I'm confident an appropriate punishment will be distributed once the administrator realizes what those affiliated with Tate have had to endure. Perhaps this user's unresponsive nature to common attempts of communication means he or she is unaware of the rules due to stubbornest to tolerate other users, however I'm sure they will realize the error of their ways when they are temporarily blocked. Cheers, UniversalBread (talk) 01:28, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

They have similarities in their edits but as you stated it's difficult to tell whether or not they are the same user since they do not communicate. I do not want to discourage this user from editing content, they appear to have some good ideas but need a general understanding of how Wikipedia works. Unfortunately this individual rarely visits their talk page and seems to be unaware of why his or her contributions where reverted. UniversalBread (talk) 01:35, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Tate has recently been blocked indefinitely, perhaps when attempting to see why she was blocked she'll look at the Wikihelp pages. I hope this improves your progress with the LaVan Davis article, if you have any more problems let me know. UniversalBread (talk) 01:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your help in this matter. Asher196 (talk) 01:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Au Sable Light[edit]

Could use this photo. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 21:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

United States lightship Huron (LV-103)[edit]

If you could help, references need to be cleaned up. I am trying to get this reassessed by WikiProject Michigan. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

I'll do what I can. What specifically do I have to do with the references? Asher196 (talk) 02:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Asher, Small thing (I think). We have multiple footnotes from the same source. I don't know how to do that. I'm trying to get the Michigan wiki project to review the rating on the article, and that kind of thing helps (I think). Thanks 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC) Stan


regarding the pics in GASCO page, i work in the same company & i asked my manager about them! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nael615 (talkcontribs) 05:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


Stop reverting my edits, if their is somthing wrong BJBot or anther bot will.--Cory Malik (talk) 23:57, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Replaceable non-free images of living persons are not allowed as per WP:NON-FREE. Asher196 (talk) 02:15, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
There is no Carey Martin, she is a FICTIONAL character.--Cory Malik (talk) 00:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I understand that, but the person portraying her is a real live person, and the fact that the article is about a fictional person doesn't get you around WP:NON-FREE. Asher196 (talk) 01:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I now realize i used the wrong lisence.The new lisence is more suitable for the image.--Cory Malik (talk) 03:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
I realize why my other pics where deleted but this one seemed to be fine.--Cory Malik (talk) 04:31, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Isle Royale Light[edit]

USCG pictures? Needs infobox, too. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:25, 25 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

I've got a start on this article. Added the infobox and did a little rewriting. More to come...Asher196 (talk) 02:23, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

St. Martin Island[edit]

Asher, No picture, no infobox. Help, pleas. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:31, 25 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

This article is a total mess. Much rewriting needed. Asher196 (talk) 02:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
I agree. The on line resources are there, but the article isn't much. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 02:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Stan

NowCommons: Image:Detourreef.jpg[edit]

Image:Detourreef.jpg is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:Image:DeTour Reef Light Station - Michigan.jpg. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case: [[Image:DeTour Reef Light Station - Michigan.jpg]]. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 02:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

File:DSCN1791.JPG is now available as Commons:File:Old Mackinac Point Light.jpg. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 15:25, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
File:Saginawriverlight.jpg is now available as Commons:File:Saginaw River Rear Range Light USGOV.jpg. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 17:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
File:Libertybridge.jpg is now available as Commons:File:Libertybridge.jpg. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 11:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
File:Sagelibrary.jpg is now available as Commons:File:Sagelibrary.jpg. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 11:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Image tagging[edit]

Replaceable fair use images should be tagged with {{Rfu}} rather than the CSD template. Thanks! BJTalk 04:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Original copyright holder in FUR[edit]

It doesn't say anything about the original rights holder on the page you mention in edit summaries? Hmm, Well it should.

So far no-ones really complained, and in many cases the tagging has served to improve the FUR :)

Rather than citing policy you could resolve the issue by finding the holder and adding it to the FUR concerned? (That said probably so could I :( )

Sfan00 IMG (talk) 22:52, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

The Citation Barnstar[edit]

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For finding a reference for Steve Yzerman's United States citizenship and refusing to to allow other editors to push their POV, you are hereby awarded this The Citation Barnstar. Thanks! — MrDolomite • Talk 01:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

House characters images[edit]

Why did you feel the need to tag all the pictures of House characters with deletion tags? There is a difference between a promotional picture of the character an actor plays and the actual person himself. This is clearly explained in all the fair use rationales in this images. Can you please explain this? LonelyMarble (talk) 02:48, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

There is no difference. Asher196 (talk) 02:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
From WP:NON-FREE "No free equivalent. Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose. Where possible, non-free content is transformed into free material instead of using a fair-use defense, or replaced with a freer alternative if one of acceptable quality is available; "acceptable quality" means a quality sufficient to serve the encyclopedic purpose. (As a quick test, before adding non-free content requiring a rationale, ask yourself: "Can this non-free content be replaced by a free version that has the same effect?" and "Could the subject be adequately conveyed by text without using the non-free content at all?" If the answer to either is yes, the non-free content probably does not meet this criterion.)" Asher196 (talk) 02:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I disagree, a candid picture of an actor is not the same as a promotional picture of a character in a TV show. Look at any major TV show on this encyclopedia and the characters page of most have a fair-use image of the actor playing the character. Why you decided to single out House characters here I don't know but that doesn't matter. I am pretty confident in the fair-use rationale here since it seems to be very widespread, and since I uploaded a couple of the images you tagged I will do nothing more. We will see what happens. LonelyMarble (talk) 02:58, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
The articles you are referring to are in the wrong, and will be dealt with eventually. I just happened to come across the House images after recently going through this with Disney Channel shows, which by the way, all the images were deleted. Asher196 (talk) 03:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
If all these images really will be deleted then this is a very large problem because almost every single non-animated television show will have this problem. This is a very big task. I'd like to see if there's ever been some general discussion on this issue. The articles I am referring to are pretty much every single TV show article there is, this seems pretty odd to me. LonelyMarble (talk) 03:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

I just did a little poking around and found that most of the currently popular television shows have no images at all in the articles. Asher196 (talk) 03:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Can you give some examples? From my experience, most popular shows have at least a portrait of all the characters in the article, which from my perspective seems the same as breaking up each character individually. Would it be better for an article to have one picture with all the characters or a lot of small pictures of each indidividual character? From a fair-use standpoint I don't see why it would make a difference. But also, for most popular TV shows, on the article pages of individual characters, most of them have a fair-use image of the character. Are you suggesting all copyright images of TV show characters be deleted? This seems to me like it would be a very big decision and task. LonelyMarble (talk) 03:33, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I quoted the relevant parts of WP:NON-FREE on your talk page. Essentially, any replaceable non-free image of a living person is not acceptable. Asher196 (talk) 03:37, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I am not an expert on copyright policy or Wikipedia copyright policy. My observations on it just come from what I see. For two quick examples off the top of my head: Lost (TV series) admittedly does not have many images in the main artice but all the articles of Lost characters have a fair-use image in them. The West Wing article has many images in it that are fair use and most or all of the character articles have a fair-use image on it. I just mention these two because they are feautured articles. There's really nothing else to say, the interpretation you give is very debatable, considering these are essentially pictures of fictional characters, not actual living people. This issue is so widespread I don't think a couple speedy deletion notices will solve it, there's not much more to say. LonelyMarble (talk) 03:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

←Hi, I have re-tagged all these images as replaceable fair use, which allows another 48 hours from now. In my opinion, they are replaceable because there is no significant difference between these images and any freely available headshot of the actors that could be made in every case. Kevin (talk) 05:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Star Trek (disambiguation)[edit]

Regarding your contribution to the page, please keep in mind that the disambiguation page is for subjects that are associated with the same title (ie "Star Trek"), not subjects that happen to have "Star Trek" in the title. The page is not meant to be a glossary. Feel free to contact me if you have any concerns. Just64helpin (talk) 17:28, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:DISAMBIG#What not to include. Just64helpin (talk) 23:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Charlie Sheen[edit]

I've updated the fair use rationale, hope it's okay now. --Music26/11 18:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Lighthouse infobox[edit]

Looking at the Charlevoix South Pier Light Station it became apparent to me that a "station established" line in the infobox would be a good idea. Maybe you and Berean Hunter can come up with something? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 15:42, 4 September 2008 (UTC) Stan

Asher -- The infobox should have a space for the U.S.C.G. number. For example, take a look at White Shoal Light (Michigan) and go to the lighthouse digest link, which lists that number. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 22:52, 11 September 2008 (UTC) Stan

Jon Cryer image[edit]

Hi there, the image is currently a GA nominee, so if illustrations are possible they should be used; also, the image you keep removing is an image of the actor in costume, the image in the infobox is an image of the actor in regular life (well, not in costume). Cryer (the actor) his portrayal of Duckie is one of his most famous ones, so an image of Cryer in costume as this character is even more signigicant. Please reply. --Music26/11 14:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Going by WP:NON-FREE "For media that involves live actors, do not supply an image of the actor in their role if an appropriate free image of the actor exists on their page (as per WP:BLP and above), if there is little difference in appearance between actor and role. However, if there is a significant difference due to age or makeup and costuming, then, when needed, it may be appropriate to include a non-free image to demonstrate the role of the actor in that media." I think a case could be made either way, but I like to err on the side of caution. I'll leave the image in the article, but I think non-free fair use images are being used far too often. Asher196 (talk) 21:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Upon further review, the section I quoted is for list articles, which this isn't. The more appropriate part of the guideline under "Unacceptable" says "Pictures of people still alive, groups still active, and buildings still standing; provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image. This includes non-free promotional images.

However, for some retired or disbanded groups, or retired individuals whose notability rests in large part on their earlier visual appearance, a new picture may not serve the same purpose as an image taken during their career, in which case the use would be acceptable." Asher196 (talk) 02:59, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Sarah Palin Time cover.jpg[edit]

You placed a speedy tag on Image:Sarah Palin Time cover.jpg a few minutes ago. Please take a look at the "purpose of use" listed, which specifically addressed wp:nfc i8. I'm working on a short paragraph of the media reaction to her candidacy, which I think will specifically justify the fair use of the Time cover. I was temporarily distracted, but it will be in there shortly.   user:j    (aka justen)   02:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I removed the SD tag on the image. Your paragraph should bring the image in line with the guideline. Asher196 (talk) 02:48, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the second look, Asher. I've added in the content, addressing the media reaction in general and the specific attention from Time (including the events leading up to their placing Palin on the cover). Take care,   user:j    (aka justen)   03:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Orlando Poe[edit]

This is a different (better?) image than the one in the article presently. It is from the National Archives. What do you think? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC) Stan

Midland, Michigan[edit]

Greg "Free Beer" Daniels is a famous Midlander? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC) Stan

I wondered about that also. I didn't look too deeply into it yet. Asher196 (talk) 22:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
FWIW, Barek beat you to it. I had no info, so didn't really want to take uninformed action. I guess that means I would not be a good candidate for a cabinet post in the present White House. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 23:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC) Stan
There might be enough material out there to create an article on him that meets WP:BIO - I didn't look closely at the sources. But, until notability can be established (preferably by creating an article for him that meets the requirements of WP:BIO), I went ahead and removed him from the list. If someone feels strongly that he is notable, encourage them to create an article. As it was, the show was demonstrated as notable - but that doesn't automatically equate to the person on the show being notable. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 23:11, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Bay City Mall[edit]

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I have nominated Bay City Mall, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bay City Mall (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 19:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Game Source wiki[edit]

Hey Asher196, I'm Burner0718 and I created a wiki for video game reviews. I thought you may be interested. Here's the link. Cheers! Burner0718 Jibba Jabba! 21:15, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


Sorry I took so long to get to this, I just happened to check things tonight (don't edit nearly as often as I used to). Any particular reason you reverted me here? I didn't see any real reason given for the revert, and I thought I had made a rather positive edit (removing crufty trivia stuff that was unsourced; save the one bit). Thanks. ^demon[omg plz] 02:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I probably thought it was vandalism. I saved the information on the Bridge Walk and the Dirty Jobs info and deleted the rest. Asher196 (talk) 03:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
No worries, just was curious. Looks like a good end result to me, thanks :) ^demon[omg plz] 14:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Fashion Square Mall[edit]

Fashion Square Mall is notable because there are multiple sources about it (or there were, before those two links died). The Saginaw News source there was a definitely non-trivial coverage. I've been unable to find similar sources for Bay City or Midland Malls, and neither has anyone else. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshellsOtter chirpsHELP) 21:50, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Charity Island[edit]

Barek, Needs an infobox. ==== Stan

I'm not very familiar with Infobox Island, so I only added the most basic of data in the fields for it. Someone else will need to expand the data. --- Barek (talkcontribs) - 00:32, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
I'll pass this on to Asher, as I think he did Granite Island, Michigan 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC) Stan
Asher, Can you help, por favor? Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC) Stan
I filled out the infobox as much as I could. I don't know what more would need to be added. Asher196 (talk) 03:06, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for filling it out. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:58, 14 September 2008 (UTC) Stan

More IPs[edit]

Long time no see Asher, I hope your projects have been successful. It appears you seem to be having difficulties with this IP, this user has also removed content from the Cassi Davis article which I've warned the operator about multiple times. He's also been editing your legitimate talk page comments regarding you to perhaps utilize some form of obscure humor. I wouldn't call sockpuppet just yet but his mannerisms are similar in almost every aspect to Carmen Tate, the unconstructive IP we ran into last time. No matter if this continues he'll end up in a similar position. Cheers, UniversalBread (talk) 01:43, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Too late, he's received a 24 hour block. UniversalBread (talk) 01:44, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
I think your suspicions are correct. I'm getting tired of babysitting those Tyler Perry related articles. Asher196 (talk) 01:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back[edit]

Asher, sorry to hear your travails, but thrilled that you are back and doing better. I missed you and your work. When you pulled your hand out of the bucket, there was a void. Get well and God bless you. Your friend and editorial collaborator, 7&6=thirteen (talk) 23:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC) sTAN

Thank you. Asher196 (talk) 01:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


Please be aware of policies such as Wikipedia:Manual of Style (titles) before taking away italics. Most entertainment works such as books, movies, and TV shows are put in italics. Thanks. LonelyMarble (talk) 02:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Yep, my mistake, sorry. Asher196 (talk) 03:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
No problem. And no worries about the images you tagged earlier, I understand what you were doing and that's cool. I got a little defensive because those were the first images I uploaded, but I think it's good there is people making sure Wikipedia is completely free. So happy editing. LonelyMarble (talk) 07:45, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


Is it true? If so, it should be fairly easy to cite. --Dweller (talk) 14:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are asking me. If the IP editor is going to make such claims on a BLP, they better be able to back them up with sources. Asher196 (talk) 16:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm asking if any of the comments from the IP are true. I'm an ignorant Limey, so I've never heard of this BOR outside of Wikipedia, so I've no idea. Is there any truth in the accusations (if toned down to remove POV)? If so, they should be easy to verify with RS as the chap seems inherently newsworthy over there. --Dweller (talk) 16:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

The Working Man's Barnstar[edit]

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Greetings, Asher196. In recognition of your hard work and meticulous craftsmanship in constructing lighthouse articles in Michigan and elsewhere, this award as Keeper of the Light is conferred. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:03, 15 October 2008 (UTC) Stan

LaVan Davis[edit]

Hi, I've noticed you have been deleteing the career, and music career on LaVan Davis. I'm the IP editor who was putting LaVan Davis (Born LaVan Davis). Thanks for showing me that I don't need that. But I'm the one who has also been putting LaVan Davis's Carrer and Music Caeer. I hope it not a problem, but I put that because I tried to expand LaVan Davis. I hope it's okay if you would keep it that way. They can read it on Wikipedia and I hope I'm not causing problems. Thanks for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Fred M. Vinson[edit]

This picture might be a good addition in the Supreme Court section. Wikimedia Commons, bust of Fred M. Vinson. I don't know how to do that. What do you think? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC) Stan

Thanks for doing this. And thanks for the instruction. Give a man a fish, etc. I think it looks good, too. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC) Stan
Asher, Needs this caption: Fred M. Vinson bust, US Supreme Court, Washington, DC, USA. Sculptor Jimilu Mason. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC) Stan
Done. Asher196 (talk) 17:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)


Pls have a look at this. Thanks. Docku:“what up?” 01:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Spectacle Reef Light[edit]

Asher: New article. Needs editing, photos, the usual. Please help. Very rough. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC) Stan

I did some work on the article. More rewriting needs to be done. I'll work more on it tomorrow. Asher196 (talk) 04:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Good morning Asher. Thanks. I agree. Looking forward to your improvements. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 11:59, 30 October 2008 (UTC) Stan
You might want to look at my talk page on this subject. I know you monitor it, but .... Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC) Stan

User Talk Page Shield[edit]

Thank you. I had noticed some weird comments before, and they (apparently) tied into that semi-hidden link, which I had missed too. Glad to help out. I'll always try to 'protect your back, partner.' 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:11, 31 October 2008 (UTC) Stan

Aids to Navigation[edit]

Discovered this article, and I've put in the link to it ("aid to navigation") in Spectacle Reef Light. It occurs to me that lighthouse articles generally have that phrase, but that they may not have that link. If you knew someone who had a bot that could do that, it would be a good thing. I don't have any sources on my own. Could you help? I'll also ask Barek, as he might be a source. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 10:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Stan

About the Tekken 6 article[edit]


I'm not entirely sure I understand your position regarding the home versions of Tekken 6. Do you think they should be addressed in a "port" section (which doesn't exist as of now)? The articles about the other games in the series tend to mention both arcade and home versions in the same infobox, and I'm tempted to point out that lots of video game articles do that as well, when different versions are released...

Is that because the home versions aren't officially titled "Tekken 6" yet (nor "Tekken 6 Bloodline Rebellion", for that matter)? Erigu (talk) 22:05, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm attempting to standardize this article using the guidelines of Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines. The information for the original release of the game is what should be listed in the infobox. Other releases of the game can be put in the main body of the article, in a "Ports" section for example. Asher196 (talk) 22:42, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Dillon Campbell[edit]

Hi, could you please explain why I "vandalized" a page? ThanksGeoffreyq (talk) 04:08, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

LaVan Davis[edit]

Hey, Look you don't have to lock LaVan Davis, I will not edit that page anymore, because looks like I'm causing problems. I was trying to simply expand LaVan Davis. You told me i needed a website for "It frequently mistaken that LaVan Davis is married to actress Cassi Davis in real life, but it is false.[1] They portray a married couple on Tyler Perry's House of Payne as Curtis Payne and Ella Payne, and a couple in the play Madea Goes to Jail as boyfriend and girlfriend. They can both also be seen on the movie Daddy's Little Girls. Tyler Perry claims they work very well together.[1]". It can be found on on LaVan Davis's page under the trivia section. But I'll never edit LaVan Davis again sorry for causing problems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:32, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

You don't need to stop editing, you just need to find a reliable source. Like Wikipedia, Imdb is edited by users, so it isn't considered a WP:Reliable source of information. Asher196 (talk) 02:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
You're welcome. I've left a note in the talk page too. Not sure if any other stuff sourced by should be removed although some of those have another source and the rest is on birth date and place and filmography. --JForget 00:22, 10 November 2008 (UTC)


Hi, I don't mean to keep bothering you but please help me keep the photo that I have on the article LaVan Davis, I really like it. I just want to keep it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassandra Davis (talkcontribs) 22:32, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

RFC over at Coleco[edit]

Just put up an RFC over at the project regarding a problem with the Pop Culture section at Coleco. Wanted to let you know about as well, as your input is appreciated since its always neutral. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 23:23, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: SW Arcade[edit]

Hey, no problem mistakes happen. I knew exactly which game you were talking about. :) TH1RT3EN talkcontribs 21:42, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

SS Carl D. Bradley[edit]

Asher, this is coming up on its 50th anniversary -- that doesn't happen very often. I thought it would be nice to be a good DYK. We need another 4000 bytes (because of DYK criteria), which could come (with paraphrase) from some of the articles cited and linked, I think. Think about it. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 15:22, 15 November 2008 (UTC) Stan

Thanks for noodling on this. Take a look at the Alpena News story. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 21:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC) Stan

RFC at Template:Dedicated_video_game_consoles[edit]

Just put up an RFC over at the project regarding a problem with the dedicated video game consoles template. Wanted to let you know about as well, as again your input is appreciated because of your neutrality. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 05:54, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Alpena News[edit]

Asher, New article. Infobox (at least) could use a picture, etc. Take a look at Detroit Free Press or Detroit News. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 13:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC) Stan

Maine Coon[edit]

Hi there! Don't mean to bother you, but I noticed that you have been reverting the introduction of the Nala.jpg in the article and would like to invite you to come discuss your reasoning so that we can put all of this to an end and I can finally nominate the article for GA. Thanks! – Ms. Sarita Confer 21:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Navbox for Michigan lighthouses[edit]

Asher, Happy New Year. I think that a related material for the Navbox could be List of lifesaving stations in Michigan. What do you think? 7&6=thirteen (talk) 18:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC) Stan

Bay City, Michigan[edit]

Under a concerted attack. Needs to be protected. I can't keep up with the three of them. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 04:22, 15 February 2009 (UTC) Stan

Little Sable Point Light[edit]

A really good picture has been added. But we need to make it fit better. Any thoughts? I don't want to get rid of the picture, and I don't want to discourage the newbie. Maybe if it or other stuff was moved? Or resized? Please help. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 22:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC) Stan

Happy St. Patrick's Day[edit]

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Have Black & Tan (Guiness and Harp (although they are owned ironically by South African Brewing Company). Enjoy the day. Best regards to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC) Stan

Help on Thumb Radio[edit]

I would like to know if you could help contribute to Thumb Radio, which has recently been nominated for deletion. Since you have contributed to a radio station in the Thumb area of Michigan, your knowledge is needed. I created the page about the uniqueness of radio stations in the thumb area. Please take a minute to edit this one of a kind page.Cgord (talk) 19:46, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Post your comment about thumb radio Cgord (talk) 20:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Waugoshance Light, Old Mackinac Point Light, White Shoal Light Spectacle Reef Light, St. Helena Island Light, Round Island Light (Michigan), McGulpin Point Light etc.[edit]

Asher, I've more or less finished several of the northern Lake Michigan, Straits of Mackinac and nother Lake Huron lighthouse articles. If you would take a look and put on your final touches and blessing, it would be appreciated. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 21:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC) Stan

St. Martin Island[edit]

Asher, More or less done. Please take a look. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 13:30, 7 October 2009 (UTC) Stan

AfD nomination of List of gangs active in the midwest United States[edit]

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TfDs: Our reference lists[edit]

Hello Asher,

A heads up. Someone is systematically nominating the source lists for lighthouses for deletion. Discussion is here.

IMHO, this is wrong-headed, and anybody who would help in opposing this would be apprecaied. Obvioiusly, I wouldlike to keep the Lighthouse resources and I replied to all of them like this>

  • Strong Keep These are useful and important lists of sources. There was a lot off work that went into these lists, and they are not miscellaneous lists of books, but are a considered and well researched compendium of resources, including links. For anybody who is seriously researching lighthouses in the United States and the affected areas, this are very useful. For anybody to argue that lists should be deleted without regard to their utility is to disregard the needs of our readers and potential readers. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 15:43, 3 April 2010 (UTC) Stan
I agree that the links are very useful, but they also seem to violate WP:EL, so no matter what my opinion is at the discussion, they are most likely going to be deleted. The best advice I can give you comes from WP:EL..."The subject of this guideline is external links that are not citations to sources supporting article content. If the website or page to which you want to link includes information that is not yet a part of the article, consider using it as a source for the article, and citing it. Guidelines for sourcing, which includes external links used as citations, are discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Citing sources." Asher196 (talk) 01:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. The links provide tremendously good context at least for the articles. These are not 'spammy' sites or books. The people who are criticizing this don't edit lighthouse articles, don't know much about the subject, and apparently don't care if anyone else does, either. The sheer number of lighthouse articles (now or potentially) that could benefit from this is huge. Wikipedia is one of those places in the world where they will pull out the eye of the world because its policy, and then say they have found the cure for blindness. I don't have to be part of the operating team, and this will help cure my addiction. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:51, 5 April 2010 (UTC) Stan

Fair use rationale for File:Galaga_3_marquee.jpg[edit]

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Jean Hoxie[edit]

This is a new article. Please take a look and make some improvements. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 12:37, 4 May 2010 (UTC) Stan

List of common misconceptions/spelling[edit]

Are you suggesting that this article is written exclusively in American English? I count the British spelling of "behaviour" three times in this entry. That's just for starters. Hairhorn (talk) 18:15, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page...Asher196 (talk) 19:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Michigan Municipal League[edit]

Thanks for joining the chorus. Haven't run across many edits, although maybe it's just I've been out of town a lot. Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 17:43, 27 May 2010 (UTC) Stab

Gordon Thomas (politician)[edit]

While your at it. please take a look. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 17:45, 27 May 2010 (UTC) Stan

I noticed your out there. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 23:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC) Stan
That's a quote from a printed biography. It was put there by the editor who created the article (who is related to him, and has it. I got involved with this article at his request, after I happened to meet him. He is an academic, and this was an opportunity for him to get involved in Wikipedia and have a positive experience. He has written to me that he is pleased with this experience. Thanks for your help. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 00:48, 14 June 2010 (UTC) Stan

Hemant Karkare[edit]

Please don't get into a war. "This is an encyclopedia, not a magazine article. Also, you can't reprint entire sections ofnewspaper articles and put it in quotes just because you listed the source" If you don't think content has been properly presented, edit it, don't just delete it. This kind of Destructive editing wont take us anywhere. SuchiBhasin (talk) 14:24, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

I did edit it. I removed the material that didn't belong. Asher196 (talk) 14:27, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh well in my part of the world it called deleting, but if you still insist on calling it editing, I would prefer the term Destructive editing. I thought your problem was that it was a lot of referenced text! ("entire sections ofnewspaper articles"), and can you please tell me on what basis are you now saying it does not belong? SuchiBhasin (talk) 14:41, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

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Missile Command[edit]

Thanks for keeping an eye on it. In case you weren't aware, the guidelines for business naming that the anonymous IP keeps ignoring are at WP:NCCORP and specifically "If the legal status is used to disambiguate, it should be included in the article title based on the specific preference for the abbreviated or unabbreviated form as prefered by the company (such as with Caterpillar Inc. compared to Mars, Incorporated). Likewise, whether or not to include a comma prior to the legal status should be governed by company usage (see, for example, Nike, Inc. compared to Apple Inc.)." I already provided him with the actual usage with the "," on his talk page and he's still ignoring it. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 15:37, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

MV Derbyshire[edit]

"unsourced speculation" - I resent that. Far as I recall, it was sourced speculation! :) (No, I did not revert. After all, it is just a speculation). Regards, --G-41614 (talk) 12:24, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

No complaints from me. One of the sources mentions the possibility, far as I recall. could be wrong, though, and I'm not going to see into it right now. Regards, --G-41614 (talk) 12:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


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Memory hole[edit]

This article is the subject of a Procrustean WP:Deletionist attack. I could use allies. Thank you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC) Stan

Asher196, please don't blindly edit-war on behalf of other editors. There is a lengthy discussion on the article Talk: page, to which you have not contributed at all. Please recognize that you can be blocked for edit-warring, even if you haven't technically violated WP:3RR. Jayjg (talk) 00:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't call restoring the deletion of well sourced material "edit warring".Asher196 (talk) 13:31, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Mythconceptions edit[edit]

Hello, I'm here to ask you about this edit you made to the page List of common misconceptions. After I've read your edit summary, I thought, "what if someone is feeling cold and they turn on the fan, would they feel cold as well?" According to you, they should not, because they're not sweating, because there's nothing to evaporate – "Fans make the air more comfortable for two reasons: (1) by moving the air, they blow away body heat and evaporate sweat, cooling the body [...]" This explanation is different from the you removed. Please respond to my on my talk page. Sp33dyphil (Talk) (Contributions)(I love Wikipedia!) 23:43, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

SNES article wording dispute[edit]

Please comment at Talk:SNES#Yet another wording dispute. Anomie 22:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of List of common misconceptions for deletion[edit]

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Edmund Fitzgerald lifeboat image[edit]

Can you explain the source of the image Edmund Fitzgerald Lifeboat? The Wikipedia Commons file credits you as the author? Clarification is needed for the license of this image for use on the SS Edmund Fitzgerald article before nominating it as a featured article. If I don't hear back from you, I can replace it with another image. Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide.--Wpwatchdog (talk) 15:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I am the author of the image. I'm not sure what clarification is needed. Asher196 (talk) 16:46, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
The problem is the link to the source. See the comment on Wikipedia:Peer review/SS Edmund Fitzgerald/archive1 toward the bottom of the page.--Wpwatchdog (talk) 16:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for promptly fixing the problem.--Wpwatchdog (talk) 17:43, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

February 2011[edit]

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Thanks so much[edit]

a special Wikicookies

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for Asher196 from helping a new user. Merci Beaucoup --Geneviève (talk) 16:44, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

You are very welcome!--Asher196 (talk) 16:47, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Coupe Dodge[edit]

Thank so much for your correction in the draft of the Coupe Dodge. I wish you a good weekend with your family. Merci beaucoup de votre aide. Je vous souhaite un bon week-end avec votre famille, --Geneviève (talk) 21:47, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Help request[edit]

I'll look at it as I have time. I've put it on my watchlist. But I can't make any promises. It's about all I can keep up with to try to keep the crap out of the misconceptions page. But good work, and good luck. Cresix (talk) 17:14, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Pacific Century Motors[edit]

I am not sure why you undid the redirect. I KNOW that Pacific Century Motors (PCM) isn't Nexteer Automotive. I just did know if there was enough out there for Pacific Century Motors to have its own article. Thus I made the section in Nexteer for its parent company. There isn't much to PCM existance except for owning Nexteer. Your PCM article total disconnects it from Nexteer and the additional information available in the Nexteer article about a newer 51% owner of PCM. --Spshu (talk) 20:18, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Michigan city infobox maps[edit]

Hey there, I see you reverted my restoration of the county/state maps for a handful of Michigan cities. You were responsible for their original replacement, as well. Can you explain why we should prefer the pushpin maps? And why just for eight Michigan cities? Thanks. Two Hearted River (paddle / fish) 02:26, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

The pushpin maps provide some of the surrounding area to maybe provide more information to someone unfamiliar with the area.--Asher196 (talk) 01:01, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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Talk page image[edit]

Definitely not worth a dispute. Feel free to restore it. Thanks. Cresix (talk) 00:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

No, I never thought you were trying to start a dispute. I guess what I meant was, it's not really important as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for your messages. Cresix (talk) 01:37, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
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List of misquotations[edit]

Please don't carry through with this.[1] Wikipedia's editing policy says that you should try to fix problems if you can and that you shouldn't carry out major changes without reaching consensus on the article talk page. See WP:PRESERVE and WP:PRESERVE#Be_cautious_with_major_changes:_discuss.

On the talk page, I offered the following compromise:

"How about we split the article into sections, and have an editor volunteer to add one cite a day to their assigned section until the entire article is sourced? I'll volunteer for the Arts and entertainment. Who else wants to volunteer?"[2]

I think that's more than reasonable. Will you please pick a section and fix it? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 22:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Pentagram Map[edit]

Dear Asher196, I spent about 14 hours yesterday turning the pentagram map wikipedia page into a useful, up=to-date, scholarly, and well-referenced document. I am the originator of this mathematical object and a leading authority on it.

The pictures I put in the page are my own. I created them myself and uploaded them myself. You have removed these pictures from the website, making the text essentially useless, or at least greatly dimishing its expository value.

I don't even know the exact names of the pictures I used, because I uploaded muliple copies (e.g. penta5.svg, penta6.svg,..) and can't remember which ones I settled on.

In order to save me a huge amount of additional time, can you please, please undo your edits? I am having trouble doing this. If you undo the edits, I will promptly add licenses to the pictures. Otherwise, I am stuck. I have to say that this experience makes me reluctant to edit wikipedia pages in the future. RichardEvanSchwartz (talk) 15:05, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Please see User talk:RichardEvanSchwartz 7&6=thirteen () 16:27, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
By the time I got back to looking at this he had already added licenses to the images.--Asher196 (talk) 16:46, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Cool. Just trying to facilitate this. I would hate to lose a good and dedicated editor right out of the box. Recruitment and retention is not just a problem for the U.S. military. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen () 16:59, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
FYI, your name came up User talk:RA0808 and User talk:RichardEvanSchwartz. I think there was a failure to communicate. It would be ashame to lose this erstwhile editor. 7&6=thirteen () 21:09, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Video arcade[edit]

Excuse me, where was the discussion to change the name from Video arcade to Amusement arcade? Seems like there should have been something on the talk page.--Asher196 (talk) 14:04, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

The article is about amusement arcades so it made sense to give it that name - I didn't think the move would be contentious so there was no discussion. Do you feel that the previous name was more accurate? SilkTork *Tea time 14:11, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


  • Re: Sean Hannity importance rating: Just a reminder that it's best not to revert other editors acting in good faith. While 3 reverts in 24 hours is the normal limit, editors have been blocked for less. Please consider using WP:BRD instead.   Will Beback  talk  02:02, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Shoot 'em up talk page[edit]

I agree with your assessment 100%, but the user in question was doing neither of those tasks. The edit he was reverting was made to remove erroneous material, as was made clear in the edit summary. Anyone can edit a typo or undo a page blanking, or something like that. Anyone also has a right to raise a concern, but instead of further inquiring on my or the article's talk page, he reverted the edit with a sarcastic edit summary. The real arrogance is when a person continually and forcefully asserts knowledge enough of a subject to make a call on the accuracy of material when they really have no clue. Indrian (talk) 14:04, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Saginaw Bay[edit]

I don't understand why you reverted the inscription of the french interwiki link for Jean Enjalran in this article (and doing so without explanation was even more confusing). The model link-interwiki exist to propose a way for the reader to get some information on a subject in a langage where information exist. It also serve as a way for the future writer of the article on the subject to get some information that he can translate or to get reference. ChristianT (talk) 12:37, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.--Asher196 (talk) 15:05, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


If I change the Stacker page back to include my link - please leave it alone. You can contact LAI Games if you wish, but my online version is endorsed by them and an official flash copy. (talk) 02:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Happy new year Asher[edit]

Happy new year, my best wishes of health and happiness for year 2012. Je vous offre mes meilleurs vœux de santé et de bonheur pour l'année 2012, ושל אושר לשנה 2012. --Cordialement féministe ♀ Cordially feminist Geneviève (talk) 10:01, 7 January 2012 (UTC)


WP:TVPLOT says we can use the episode as a primary source for plot. This is how all articles about TV shows, films, books, etc work. I grant you the plots could do with trimming, but your complete removal of them is nothing more than vandalism. -mattbuck (Talk) 05:11, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Mackinacpoint.jpg needs authorship information[edit]

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Rodent wars[edit]

How am I doing? 7&6=thirteen () 02:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate the help. I've been removing the slanderous garbage for years.--Asher196 (talk) 05:45, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
The latest one seemed determined to add the name on the talk page, even as it had already been removed from "See also". This was an IP and presumably was not autoconfirmed, so he couldn't put it in the article. Sigh. There isn't much that's worth saying about the subject, and that little bit is in the article. 7&6=thirteen () 11:35, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

thank you for your comment at[edit]

Your support would be very much appreciated, as far as I understand, a "support !vote" would help as noted in — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Micah True[edit]

Asher196, I am (more or less) the sole editor of his new article. It has gotten nearly 18,000 views in the last 2 days. It needs a fresh set of eyes. Thank you. 7&6=thirteen () 18:03, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

About Virtua Tennis articles[edit]

Hello Asher196

I have noticed your contributions to the Virtua Tennis article, in reverting nonsense edits by unregistered users back to my previous versions. These edits are recurring, and they also are present in articles of the other videogames in the same series such as Virtua Tennis 2, Virtua Tennis 3 and Virtua Tennis 4. Although these articles have arguable importance to Wikipedia, I have contributed to them and it upsets me a little when someone who I think is acting as a troll/disruptive editor messes things up.

I would like to ask you, as an experienced editor in Wikipedia, if something can be done about blocking these nonsense edits. I have left some comments before on the article's talk pages describing the nonsense which was added to them.

Regards, Cpfig (talk) 16:30, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Galaga and The Avengers[edit]

In order to prevent a content dispute, I've opened a discussion on the talk page for Galaga and would request your input. --McDoobAU93 16:15, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Bay City, Michigan[edit]

Jason The Michigan Kid Lynch - Professional Billiards Trick Shot Artist, World Jump Champion 2008, ranked 9th in the World 2012 There seems to be quite a bit about him on the web. I thought the "cn" would be a reasonable compromise until somebody puts in a wp:rs. But I am not devoted enough to dispute this. 7&6=thirteen () 17:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Cat article[edit]

You're right; that wasn't the best picture to show the coat pattern. I should be able to get a picture of the undercoat in the future. How would I handle showing both the undercoat and a comparison of what the pattern looks like without the undercoat visible? I don't want to clutter the article since that would probably require two pictures; could someone move the pictures into a gallery (forgot the term MediaWiki uses) and put all pictures there so the article doesn't end up with too many pictures in the main text? --Evice (talk) 21:13, 21 June 2012 (UTC)


Not that it's a big deal, but was curious as to why you reverted my edit. It's probably an MOS thing I'm unaware of. My attempt was to make the page more aesthetically pleasing by having the outlines of the infobox and the picture below match up, giving consistency within the section. Is there a rule regarding thumbnail size that would prevent this? 78.26 (talk) 23:17, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

No worries, friend, and thanks for the explanation. It's not the first time it's happened. I should have put in an edit summary. Have a great day! 78.26 (talk) 14:44, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Adventure (Atari 2600)[edit]

Apparently that derboo takes it all pretty personally. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 15:48, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

About the Caddy[edit]

I noticed a bit of conflict on that page so I went and added sources. The sources have both textual descriptions of the cars used in that media and images from each movie or show that have the cars in question. Cheers! (talk) 09:33, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Tabby cat revert[edit]

Seems you reverted an edit [3] with no explanation, However the edit you reverted was not vandalism, rather an early edit by a new user, their first, and your revert should have contained an explanation. The user (User talk:Keagiles) is frustrated about it and other things, seems an explanation and or apology is needed on his talk. Please do so. Vsmith (talk) 18:54, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Talk page guidelines[edit]

You have said on the "Common Misconceptions" talk page: "Comments that are plainly irrelevant are subject to archival or removal."

I'm not seeing that anywhere on the talk page guidelines. My reading is that comments should only be deleted in rare circumstances, and this doesn't meet the criteria. Do you have a citation for your assertion? Thanks. Mr. Swordfish (talk) 22:09, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Owney (dog)[edit]

"Owney, the Railway Mail Dog". Topics in Chronicling America. Library of Congress. Retrieved July 31, 2012. . This is close to being a DYK. We are just below the 5X and within the 5 day limit. Unfortunately, life has me tied up, and I can't take it over the goal line. Could you help? 7&6=thirteen () 13:48, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Cadillac Seville - edit war in progress[edit]

Hi Asher196. Although I believe you're in the right (I've even reverted the article to your version a couple of times myself), please stop edit-warring over the Trivia section. You're running perilously close to getting blocked for warring, and that's not something I want to see happen. I've requested page protection whilst we sort this issue out (I can't protect it myself, being involved already with the dispute) - take a moment to chill out, and let's see if we can get a discussion going at the article's talk page. Yunshui  09:19, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

wisegeek as a reliable source[edit]

You asked about wisegeek as a reliable source.


my read is that it is generally considered very low quality/unreliable. What do you think? Before I deleted it I googled extensively and found nothing to back that up. Not even the website of the Sebewaing, Michigan chamber of commerce, which if it were true, one would think would say it. Jytdog (talk) 20:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC) (amended to say "low quality" whoops)

Not sure where you want to have the conversation! I am ok having it anywhere. Anyway, if you can find a source you trust is reliable, please cite it. Otherwise I think it should go. I ,made a good faith effort to find one and failed so did what I thought was best - delete the statement. I am not invested in this, please do as you see fit. Thank you for talking! Jytdog (talk) 23:31, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit on John Wayne[edit]

Hi Asher196 You undid my revision at John Wayne (see [4]). I had done this because I felt the previous editor needed to cite a source for the addition of material. Your edit summary would suggest you thought were undoing the same thing, but in actuality your edit ended up re-inserting the unsourced material. I wanted to check with you to see if this is what you truly intended to do. Thanks! 78.26 (I'm no IP, talk to me!) 21:33, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Galaga edit[edit]

Hi Asher196, I notice that in this edit you've recently reverted an edit I had made earlier today where I had added a link to the other platforms this game has been released for. I see that you left an edit summary (The infobox in this case is for the original arcade release.) but I don't understand it. Is this a rule for all games that have an arcade release or only for the Galaga article? And is this actually a rule or is it just a local consensus? The reason I ask is that although I've edited a lot of video game articles in the past I've never seen this sort of a limitation to the platform field of the "Infobox VG" template. From looking at the examples provided in Template:Infobox video game it seems that listing multiple platforms is often permitted. Am I missing something? -Thibbs (talk) 04:15, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello again. Since you copied the above message to my talk page and answered there, I've responded on my talk page as well. For the sake of clarity I think we should consolidate this discussion on only a single talk page so I'll make all of my replies there. Please watch my talk page until the discussion is complete. Thanks. -Thibbs (talk) 17:32, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

NRA talk page[edit]

Hi Asher, if you wish to continue the discussion about my NRA talk page comment then I'd appreciate you doing it on my user page (or here). I believe the comment was relevant and appropriate given what it was in response to. Regardless, your removal of amounted to a violation of WP:TPO. --Nstrauss (talk) 17:16, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

An award for you[edit]

Flag map of Michigan.svg Promotion of the place where people describe where they live by pointing to a spot on their hand award
For all your great work promoting articles about my former (and always dearest) state. Gtwfan52 (talk) 00:25, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


Indeed I know that sources are not needed for plainly obvious things. But if you'll look at the article's recent history, you'll see people removing that content and asking for sources. It is, after all, a recent event and likely to be challenged by those not keeping up on the news. DP76764 (Talk) 05:02, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Users can remove messages from their own talk[edit]

Hello Asher196. Please consider undoing your recent edit here. User:Let Me Eat Cake is allowed to remove notices from their own page, with very few exceptions. See WP:BLANKING. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 17:37, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I am aware of that. I was just tweaking him a little because he called me an idiot.--Asher196 (talk) 17:42, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Great Lakes and List of magic museums[edit]

Please take a look at the discussions. The former involves some of your edits. 7&6=thirteen () 13:05, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Editing Conformal Coating[edit]

Hello Asher can you help me with why you are undoing all of the work I am doing on this page Leehitchens (talk) 16:04, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, why are the images being removed? I have gone through all this already with other workers and its taking ages to get permissions sorted. Its all been ripped down so i am completely confused as to what is going on?

Also, I can reference all of the work no problem to my own websites, articles, documents since I am one of the leading experts in the world on conformal coating. I was just trying not to dominate too much and give balance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leehitchens (talkcontribs) 16:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Asher thanks for the input. So, if I cut down the material and then reference the docs, articles etc then this is okay? What about the images? Why are they down? I went through this already with another person and only just got all this cleared. It does ask for images so I supplied them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leehitchens (talkcontribs) 16:20, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

"pops & clunks[edit]

The sock-puppet IP editor I've named "pops & clunks" may actually outlast you. He has been doing this since July or June if you check the talk page. I'm lost as far as what to do, besides reverting his edits like clockwork.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 11:20, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Files missing description details[edit]

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Commentary here. Please (re) join the discussion, instead of blindly assuming that I have made no effort to do so. Chaheel Riens (talk) 12:07, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

You made the change to the article without consensus, so perhaps I'm not so blind after all.--Asher196 (talk) 12:29, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

German Apollo Talk vandal[edit]

The person adding German text to Talk:Apollo 11 has been using three different IP addresses; has added this twice today, and once on July 6 (easily visible on the history page.) He has also done the same once to Talk:Apollo Command/Service Module. What is the best practical way to deal with this? I put the German warning template on the talk page of the first address used today, but that's obviously futile since he changes IP's. I'm not very adept at writing an AIV report.

(Also FWIW, I got a rough 99% translation using Google and he seems to be a Moon-landing questioner, supposedly going through the rocket physics of the lunar mission.) JustinTime55 (talk) 21:23, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Betsy Brandt's Birthdate[edit]

Hey Asher196,

I noticed you've been vigorously encouraging that updates to the Betsy Brandt article, in particular regarding her birthdate, conform appropriately to WP:RS, and, so far, that page lacks a birthdate as nothing has been produced that meets the standard.

Google, in its infinite wisdom, in an Info box (or whatever they would call it) on their results page is declaring that Ms. Brandt was born November 14, 1976 in Bay City, MI.

Armed with this irrefutable evidence, I Googled her name along with the asserted date of birth and only turned up result after result from mainly fan and celeb sites. The only site I was able to find that had a bit of a "name brand" to it was a bio on "" that at least did carry a byline, a Mr. Paul Gaita. Of course, what was missing from the Yahoo page was Mr. Gaita's source, which I suppose could have been simply one of the fan and celeb web sites - a snake eating its tail.

What *is* typically used as an authoritative source for birthdates? Are living person's birthdates sourced accordingly on the majority of Wikipedia pages?

Thanks EricTN (talk) 08:20, 31 July 2013 (UTC)


WP:BLPs require a higher standard in terms of sourcing. Here is a link in which BLP birthdays were discussed I believe I had been reverting because the sources people have been trying to use come from user generated content (e.g. IMDB)--Asher196 (talk) 16:15, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Linwood, MI[edit]

Thanks for the heads-up; I initially reverted it as I thought it violated WP:NPOV - guess it wasn't a violation at all. hmssolent\You rang? ship's log 14:44, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

3RR warning[edit]

Asher, you have now twice reverted my good faith edit in SS Edmund Fitzgerald. Your reason is that the edit lacks explanation. However, the second edit included a full explanation of the change, and your checkin note actually refers to my note, so I don't see how you could claim it is lacking. I stand by my comment that the edit (greatly) improves the readability of the paragraph in question, and you have twice failed to provide any reason for the revert based on the content itself. So, what is your content-based reason for the revert? Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:23, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

I've read that section both ways five times now and can't really see what your change adds to the article. But since I don't really see it hurting either, I won't continue to stand in the way. I apologize - I tend to be protective of good articles.--Asher196 (talk) 15:45, 16 September 2013 (UTC)



So I know you have had a hand in reverting some of jakandsig's edits over the last month, so I wanted to let you know that I am strongly considering launching an RFC regarding his conduct. I do not know how closely you have followed his edits on the whole, but he has engaged in personal attacks against multiple editors (yourself included) on talk pages and in edit summaries, refuses to adhere to community consensus, and engages in disruptive editing. He was blocked for 48 hours for his behavior, engaged in sock puppetry solely to launch personal attacks during the block, and then went right back to his old behavior a week or so after the block expired. I am contacting you to see if you would consider endorsing an RFC if I were to start one. Indrian (talk) 00:01, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I would support that. I've been following his antics and think it's about time to do something about it.--Asher196 (talk) 04:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Your use of rollback[edit]

Asher196, this was not an appropriate use of your rollback userright given that was an edit war. Please be more careful in the future. Regards, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 06:05, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

I agree. I realized after I did it that It was the wrong thing to do, although I'm not sure my actions constituted edit warring.--Asher196 (talk) 18:56, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
They didn't by themselves, but it was definitely used during an edit war. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 01:35, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Another Potential Sock Puppet[edit]


It's too early to say for sure, but we have another new user, (KombatPolice), that was just created and immediately honed in on two of the pages Jak and friends love to edit. He is beginning to make some of the same arguments and also seems unable to sign his talk posts, repeating similar patterns. It is really too early to make any accusations yet, but I just wanted to alert you to the potential. I keep putting off doing an RFC for Jak because he keeps getting blocked and I do not think it fair to start the process until he is able to defend himself, but if this keeps up, an RFC will be coming eventually. Indrian (talk) 21:46, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

I believe your assessment is correct. The same editing patterns are there. It's unfortunate, as I think Jak could be a very good editor if he learned to play by the rules.--Asher196 (talk) 16:28, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Neutral Notice.[edit]

Hello, as an editor of TV series pages. Your input over on House of Cards re the separation of Main and Recurring characters in the cast list would be much appreciated. MisterShiney 18:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Ms. Pac-man[edit]

Aren't we supposed to put content from the article in the opening because it's supposed to be a summary, or am I incorrect? Golden Cog Afternoon Karate Exit (talk) 19:14, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Asher, I believe we're looking at Jak's 19th sockpuppet.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 19:17, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

User:Asher196 I can't move until you give me an answer because I don't know if it's against the rules or not, and I edited the Magician Lord opening slightly as well. If it's against the rules, then I have to go back and remove it. Golden Cog Afternoon Karate Exit (talk) 19:33, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Third Opinions[edit]

I was wondering when you have time if you would drop by the talk pages for; Magician Lord, Atari 7800, and Atari 2600 as i need a third opinion on those pages. If other users have posted theirs already, I would still hope you share your thoughts on the matter. Also check out the Ms.Pac-man edit when you have time as well. Let me know what you think. Golden Cog Afternoon Karate Exit (talk) 20:31, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


I have been meaning to ask you: why did you construe the edits I made to Pac-Man and Ms. Pac-Man in January as vandalism? In the case of the former, I had to go back and correct all the misspellings of the main character's name you had inadvertently restored. Namcorules's Temporary Account (talk) 15:00, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Looking back at this, it appears I made a mistake. I have no idea why I would have reverted your edits.--Asher196 (talk) 15:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Your removal of a discussion at Talk:The Big Bang Theory[edit]

I noticed you completely removed an open discussion here. I checked the talk page guidelines, just to double check my argument against it, so I reverted you because, the only listed probable reason that you may have removed it for was being "off topic", which is debatable as the original poster had a concern, but even so, the guideline recommends not completely removing the discussion, but adding the recommended template. Rilech (talk) 15:56, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

As per WP:TALK "Stay on topic: Talk pages are for discussing the article, not for general conversation about the article's subject (much less other subjects). Keep discussions focused on how to improve the article. Comments that are plainly irrelevant are subject to archival or removal.", I removed the offending section.--Asher196 (talk) 16:02, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
It is a common vandal based edit to the article, to add the stereotyping. The replies made and the original post is a legitimate talk page discussion and may help give reason why it isn't included in the article. Rilech (talk) 16:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
It would legitimate if the post was about the article, not the TV show in general.--Asher196 (talk) 16:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I agree with that if it weren't a discussion about the article, it shouldn't be included on the talk page. But that is my disagreement with you. I DO believe he is asking why there is no discussion about it in the article. The original poster, obviously has no clue what Wikipedia's policies are on what belongs and what doesn't belong in an article and why the stereotyping wouldn't be in the article. Rilech (talk) 16:15, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Which complements what I said on my talk page. --NeilN talk to me 16:17, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I still don't see any reference to the article in his post. It's just a general rant about the show. I disagree with leaving the section on the talk page, but I won't continue to fight it.--Asher196 (talk) 16:21, 14 April 2014 (UTC)


Hey there dude. What the heck is going on with the IP editor who's all over the controller articles? Looking at his own words in the version history of that IP's talk page (I won't say "his talk page" because IP editors don't own or represent anything), it sounds like he's just a totally horrible person. The only edit descriptions given are hateful invective, as if just saying nothing wasn't bad enough. But there seems to be a deranged and widespread agenda. How on earth has this not been reported and blocked? Because that's what's about to happen. I'm baffled, but am I correct so far? Thanks. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 20:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

FYI, assuming that your assertions are correct, if you're in the process of trying to correct or mitigate something, just keep in mind that you wanna stay on the right side of WP:3RR. Even if another person's only means of communication is via edit wars, nobody is allowed to do more than 3 reverts on one thing for any reason. It needs to be reported to an admin by that point. I don't know if that's been happening and I honestly don't fully know what's been happening at all. I just know that it's enough madness for at least one certain person to have been blocked many times over. I'm just letting you know in case you didn't know. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 09:58, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

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Pac-Man Restaurant in Chigago[edit]

There is a new Pac-Man restaurant in Chigago called "257" which also includes an arcade, Pac-Man store, and a bowling alley! If you don't believe me, here are some links:

Shouldent we mention this as part of Pac-Man's popular culture?

User:MrJoshbumstead~User talk:MrJoshbumstead — Preceding undated comment added 18:30, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps as long as you can provide reliable sources that this is notable.--Asher196 (talk) 15:26, 25 March 2015 (UTC)


Thank you for reverting that IP user's disruptive edits. Would you like to join the Talk:Charmed#Starring sections discussion on who should be listed first in the starring section? Lesahna01 (talk) 23:41, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Conformal Coatings Page[edit]

I spent this morning adding more information onto the Conformal coatings wikipedia page, I cited all information. you have removed all this work - yet have then made your own edit using the same information - but without the citation of the source!?? - please can you explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Almighty phate (talkcontribs) 14:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.--Asher196 (talk) 15:24, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the Reply, but why is the number 2 ranked website on Conformal coatings not a reputable source, when all the other information on the page is cited from a page which dos not even rank for conformal coatings in google? and regardless of this - the information on the Electrolube website is written by Phil Kinner - a Conformal Coatings specialist who has worked with coatings for over 16 years including for (and written most of) the number 1 ranked site on conformal coatings Humiseal as well. He is a well respected name in the Coatings industry GLOBALLY.

If I re-add the information but a credit it to Phil at Electrolube will this be adequate to pass the "reputable source" test?? - I think all the information I added is important for anyone learning about coatings - some of it i think is also in white papers he has written but the pages i linked to were just easier to read?

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Almighty phate (talkcontribs) 14:35, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

TRS-80 Color Computer[edit]

Hello Asher, you reverted an edit on the TRS-80 Color Computer page. We discussed that edit on our Facebook page and there was not only consensus but unanimity that the referenced article made no sense. Also that the "fact" derived from it did not belong in the article either. Perhaps the IP edit caught your attention. It was not vandalism. 6809er (talk) 02:34, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Nazi Party (disambiguation)[edit]

Hello Asher196,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Nazi Party (disambiguation) for deletion, because it doesn't seem to have any encyclopedic content.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Fbdave (talk) 19:20, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

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