User talk:Athenean

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Regarding your revert[edit]


Regarding this reversion, amongst which you added an edit summary "no, the lede is meant to provide a summary of the main points of the article,not mention every empire or state that ruled the territory."

Could you point me out any other empire or state that ruled all of Turkey for 200 years, or even close to it, had a considerable historical impact, and that's not listed in the lede?.. Especially as all other pre-Turkic history in some way, whether culturally or ethnicity-wise has been mentioned. - LouisAragon (talk) 16:50, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Please take this to the article talkpage so that other users can weigh in if they wish to. Athenean (talk) 16:55, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Hellenisation page[edit]

Hi, I have notice that you have undone my revisions on the Hellenisation section on the Alexander the Great page, and when you undid th revision gave the reason POV pushing. However I must disagree as while you undid the revision you kept the sources, and it was I that added those courses to support what I had written. Thus, what is currently written is not supported by any of the sources, or any scholarship. Furthermore, I fail to see how I was pushing my point of view, I was entirely fair and was not trying to detract from any side, I was simply reflecting modern scholarship on the matter and thus was not pushing my point of view. Indeed what you have replaced my revision with is entirely inaccurate, again I can understand your concern that my edit was perhaps an instance of historical revisionism; however it is not. I was simply correcting the section due to the addition of the mount Meru bit, keeping the original sources which are in no way relevant even contradicting the point made about mount Meru. Indeed, on the issue of mount Meru that is traditional Hindu "cosmology" (as it was describing the universe, not the solar system) and was not accepted beyond explaining the metaphysical universe, in traditional Indian astronomy/astrology; however, the use of a heliocentric planetary model with elliptical orbits was favored until the arrival of the Ptolemaic model which proved very popular as the arithmetic was simpler and yielded equally accurate results with the relatively inaccurate data available at the time. I will refrain from making any more edits until we resolve this issue, please do contact me soon as i want to settle this amiably and with no further disagreements. Looking forward to hearing from you.Bodha2 (talk) 18:47, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi, was hoping for a response by now.Bodha2 (talk) 13:15, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Closure at WP:AE[edit]

Please see this notice which I added at Talk:Turco-Albanians. Though the enforcement request against you was closed with no action, the moral of the story for all parties seems obvious. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:10, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Latest Sulmues SPI[edit]

Thank you for your time about this one. Alexikoua (talk) 21:11, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Always a pleasure! Athenean (talk) 21:34, 7 January 2016 (UTC)


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Awarded to Athenean for extraordinary scrutiny, precision and community service. Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:51, 9 January 2016 (UTC)


I have started a discussion on WP:AE concerning you.CometEncke (talk) 10:16, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

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In the article Hijab by country there are constant attempts by registered users and IP users (whom I suspect could be duplicate accounts of one person) to show the illegal entity of "Northern Cyprus" as a separate and legitimate country, and obviously in many other articles, without much ado. I revert it, but they change it back, even including my amended version that show the Turkish Cypriots as a distinct society but as a subsection under the legitimate section of Cyprus. Could you do something about these users and alert them?

Thank you. SednaXV (talk) 08:27, 21 March 2016 (UTC)


To this. I am reacting so defensibly because you claimed this in an arbitration request, and I will react even more defensibly if you continue doing the same. My very best wishes (talk) 04:22, 27 March 2016 (UTC)


Hi, this is Woodgridge. Yesterday, you reverted my sourced edit with the edit summary "rv alexyflemming sock" without raising your claim in WP whereas WP has mechanisms for such accusations to be recorded and processed. It would be wise/ethical to introduce the claims with proofs before accusing the others.Woodgridge (talk) 17:06, 30 March 2016 (UTC)


Good morning. I have a quiestion about Greeks. Why the user Theban Halberd, removed the Aeolian and Dorian invasion on Origin section? --Loginariosty (talk) 23:58, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Northern Epirote Declaration of Independence/GA1[edit]

Since you took a look at Resnjari's comments about the supposed copyvio issues of 100+ year old images, I wonder what else can be done in this case. By the way all necessary info was already added in commons.Alexikoua (talk) 12:52, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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Hey Athenean, regarding Alexander the Great, I wanted to just keep it at India myself initially when I reverted those two users, but after realizing that that part is often changed by "certain" IP's/SPA accounts who seem overly concerned regarding how many square inches Alexander had conquered of what is nowadays their country, I tried to make it more precise. This indeed made it way too complicated however as you correctly told. "The more you have the more complicated life gets", as we say, haha. Anyway, to put it short, I just wanted to say that I changed it in good faith in order to prevent more SPA IP hoppers/socks/and what-not being lured to it. That's all. I would never have changed it if it didn't attract that much disruption. That's all :-) Bests and take care - LouisAragon (talk) 21:26, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

No worries, I know you meant well, and appreciate the effort. Athenean (talk) 02:46, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Removal of sourced information[edit]

You just removed sourced content without reaching consensus or providing rational explanation. If you continue the incident and your bias will be reported at WP:AE, thank you. Take careJudist (talk) 04:50, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

I explained to you on the talkpage why the material doesn't belong. If you that's your problem. Feel free to go to AE anytime. Athenean (talk) 10:05, 10 June 2016 (UTC)


Hi, I would like to ask why content with no reliable (invalid links and in Greek Language) sources should still be on Imbos' page? And why should content with sources which are not even in English still be on an English Wikipedia page? In this case Imbos, Please remove the greek sources from the page and move them to the Greek wikipedia page. DavidThomson1997 (talk) 22:58, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Greek inhabitation[edit]

Indeed, but I am referring to inhabited by *humans* not human ancestors (which does indeed go much farther back. Perhaps specification is in order, but I figured that would be quickly assumed.

Europe, including Greece, has been inhabited by anatomically modern humans for the last 40k or so years. Human beings did not evolve in the 7th century BC. Athenean (talk) 03:08, 20 July 2016 (UTC)