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Again, welcome! Doug Weller talk 15:18, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the warm welcome Doug! We may have our tensions on a peculiar page, but that's just one thing. I really do enjoy Wikipedia and what is has offered and what it continues to give. I thank you for the links and trying to help a fellow Wikipedia! Thank you Doug! :) Aviartm (talk) 23:02, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

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Antifaschistische Aktion[edit]

That is a German group and we've got an article on it. Antifa USA is a movement, not an organisation or group, so can't have an official logo. Please revert, Doug Weller talk 05:50, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

What matters are reliable sources, and you don't seem to have them. I repeat, there's no official logo because there's no organisation. Whether some people use flags, etc is irrelevant unless it becomes significantly reported in the media. Doug Weller talk 16:52, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

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Antifa (United States)[edit]

Rather than keep on reverting eachother in Antifa (United States) I have made a section on Talk:Antifa (United States) where this can be discussed. I think we might be using the wrong infobox type so please don't feel obliged to fill in all the parameters when some of them clearly do not apply to something that is not a political party or even an organisation at all. We can discuss the specific parameters, and the wider issue of which type of infobox to use, if you like. I've already had my say. If you say why you think that the claim of an international affiliation is justified by the sources (and/or anything else you feel arises from this or the infobox more generally) then maybe we can see what some other people think and take it from there. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:28, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

You have no consensus for your edit, please self revert and discuss this on the talk page, also bear in mind WP:3RR Darkness Shines (talk) 21:08, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikilinks[edit]

Please read WP:Overlink. For instance, you are linking "Everyday words understood by most readers in context" such as "law" and "information". I'm not the only editor who has noticed this. Doug Weller talk 12:42, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Antifa United States - sources[edit]

I see that although only three editors have reverted you, another has asked you to revert yourself. So that's 4 not happy with your edits and yet you singled me out to complain to and haven't yet thought to ask why people are disagreeing with you.

The sources I have read say that Antifaschistische Aktion - particularly its actions during the Weimar Republic, which I remind you was about 3 generations ago. It's an inspiration and perhaps an intellectual heritage for some, but probably not most although that is of course speculation. Still, it's a movement and movements tend to attract people who are more interested in the 'now' then what came before in another country.

Then there's the fact that Antifaschistische Aktion doesn't exist anymore and when it did it was part of the German Communist Party. Antifa movements today are not part of any Communist party.

Those are facts, but in a sense that's irrelevant. What matters is that we follow the policy at WP:VERIFY and can back any text with sources that meet WP:RS. You haven't even tried to do that, just argued that you are right. That's why you keep getting reverted.

I agree that they often use Black bloc tactics and wear black. But not just black. And logos vary, eg [https://twitter.com/berkeleyantifa this one. It's a movement so it is impossible for it to have anything official.

Which is why we rely on sources. And rarely just one source, usually we need multiple sources.

As for the infobox, there is very little that should go into it as this isn't an organisation. Doug Weller talk 15:55, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Like I have stated previously, you are in my notifications box the most, that is why I disregard others. Overwhelmingly, they wear Black. That is why their "colors" os Black. And yes, it is old history, but Antifaschistische Aktion is the European counterpart from the United States essentially? Yes?
No. It's an organisation not a movement. It has no formal relationship as that's impossible. But all of that is my observation from reading sources, and we need actual sources to make the links you make. WP:VERIFY isn't optional. Doug Weller talk 17:55, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
And really this discussion needs to be on the talk page, with your sources. Doug Weller talk 19:33, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Then why would Antifa call themselves "Antifa" them? Seems extraordinarily similar!

August 2017[edit]

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. You were already undone once. That does not mean that you restore it and mark it as minor. Per WP:BRD it is up to you to discuss this on the article's talk page before it can be restored. Meters (talk) 00:11, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Read WP:MINOR. Your edits should not be marked as minor Meters (talk) 00:13, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

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What page is this? Antifa? @Doug Aviartm (talk) 19:17, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Not a specific page but the US antifa page would be covered. Trump certainly is and is under scrutiny so it's important new editors know about this. Doug Weller talk 19:31, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Ok. But what this have to do with Trump now? Aviartm (talk) 19:43, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

August 2017[edit]

Please stop making disruptive edits, as you did at Junto (club).

If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. That poorly written edit does not belong in the article, let alone in the lede. Restoring it as a minor edit after it had already been removed once is disruptive. Read WP:BRD and take it to the article talk page if you insist. Meters (talk) 22:37, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Benjamin Franklin. Stop restoring questionable, contested content as minor edits. Discuss it or leave it alone. Meters (talk) 22:43, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

links to dab pages[edit]

Hi there. Please try to avoid linking to disambiguation pages, like you did in this edit. It just adds work to other editor to disambiguate it. --Muhandes (talk) 18:50, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

My apologies Muhandes. I made the edit on my iPhone, I would've done a better job, but linking pages to a particular one is quite limited on mobile unless I do not know some other method.
Since the overwhelming majority of the wikilinks you insert are contrary to WP:OVERLINK, it would be best not to do it - at all, let alone on a device that means they don't even point to the right place. Pinkbeast (talk) 06:56, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Indeed Pinkbeast, but if you look at all the various links that I did connect but were inverted, there are hundreds of people's wikipedia that have that generic linking, so I figured I would just continue to do that.
Well, figure otherwise. It's against policy, as you've been told _and_ it's actively damaging when you get it wrong, as you often do. Pinkbeast (talk) 20:40, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Then why are so many pages linked to even very generic pages? The first sentence of any person usually has words linked. I am just doing that. Aviartm (talk) 20:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS; if you find other pages that break WP:OVERLINK, the answer is fix them (or don't, please, since you tend to make a mess which other people then have to clean up), not to make other pages break that policy too. Why are they like that to begin with? Because of people like you who don't read policy even when it's clearly linked on their talk page and has been for days. Pinkbeast (talk) 21:13, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
Good point. But if there are hundreds, if not thousands of common/popular Wikipedia pages that "break" the overlinking policy, then why are they not reverted? Aviartm (talk) 21:17, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
It doesn't matter why, there are probably a multitude of reasons and Pinkbeast has already commented on your question. The important thing here is that you help the project by not doing it. Find something else to do. Doug Weller talk 09:30, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Oof. But what I was trying to address was that I was connecting links that other pages already have similar liked connected links. Aviartm (talk) 13:02, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes, we know, you have addressed that ad nauseam. Pinkbeast (talk) 15:43, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

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December 2017[edit]

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Ok. I did not see the talk page at the time. Understandable. Aviartm (talk) 03:14, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I've not been checking Aviartm's edits in detail recently. While they have graduated from vandalism, they still love to mangle a page with a generic edit summary. I gather this was about their endemic Caps Disease? Pinkbeast (talk) 01:11, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
@Pinkbeast I did not read the talk pages at the time, that's why an edit of mine have been reverted. That is understandable, don't you agree? Aviartm (talk) 03:14, 16 December 2017 (UTC)