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Hello, Avoided, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages you might find helpful:

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Hi. thx for greeting. I'm helping against vandalism here. ty --Avoided (talk) 19:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)


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For beating me to the punch so often and generally whooping vandal keester PanydThe muffin is not subtle 12:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Ah, thanks german RC is nothing against that it's rolling me over here. --Avoided (talk) 12:44, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

CVU Award[edit]

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Well done :), you keep beating me to the revert on Huggle. However, please could you remember to warn vandals as well? Thanks, Acather96 (talk) 20:05, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi thanks, ok i'll warn sometimes next time. I think we just should beat the vandals and not each other. So off now. sincere regards --Avoided (talk) 20:11, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
A progression of warnings helps deter future vandalism, because it shows the vandal that their actions are being monitored and that they will be blocked if they continue. If you are serious about vandal-fighting, please remember to leave a warning every time you revert another user for vandalism. Thanks - Pointillist (talk) 23:50, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for adding more warnings, it is very helpful! - Pointillist (talk) 00:06, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

A request[edit]

Thanks for your help on recent changes. It would help identify the repeat vandals if you would issue warnings when you make a reversion. It is certainly a discretionary action, but it would make it easier on the admins to identify those individuals that simply aren't changing their behavior. Thanks Tiderolls 23:52, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Certainly, but i'm still forgetting to push [Q]. I'll try to do it more frequently. greetings --Avoided (talk) 00:10, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010[edit]

sorry. :)--Talktome(Intelati) 00:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Poker Face (Lady Gaga song), did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. The reverted edit can be found here. Thank you. Talktome(Intelati) 00:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

That's clearly a mistake. User has not been vandalizing. User has been in fact doing extreme opposite. Vandal Whacking (Patrolling). FYI Avoided, you're currently blacklisted which may lead to this happening again. ♫Mr. R00t Talk♫ 00:59, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Clear no problem! We make mistakes. :) --Avoided (talk) 01:07, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Care to explain what happened? I'm confused now. :/--Talktome(Intelati) 01:11, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, sorry, my fault. :) I have no idea how that happened though.--Talktome(Intelati) 01:16, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
The tool gave me a warning again after your excuse. --Avoided (talk) 01:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
It was a different edit the first time.--Talktome(Intelati) 01:23, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
ye ok goodbye i'm off. --Avoided (talk) 01:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


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This is the only warning that you will receive for continuously beating me at reverting vandalism. :) Note: Please don't take this warning seriously. Gfoley4 | Wanna chat? 01:29, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Vandal Fighter[edit]

Hi, I have slight problems with VF which doesn't want to connect. I notice that you have solved the problems. However, I couldn't find the b52 you mentioned. Could you help ? Thanks — Tjmoel Icons-flag-id.png bicara 09:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi I think you've overlooked it aswell. I got it from It's a section above my question. --Avoided (talk) 11:44, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


Hello there, just came across you on vandal patrol. You do some great work. But do you never think of actually warning the vandals? T'would be most helpful. :) Orphan Wiki 23:50, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Four warnings are required for the vandal to be blocked. You are already using Huggle, so warning is simple and takes no extra time. Thanks. --Diannaa (Talk) 01:35, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Just to say that Avoided (talk · contribs) has issued 117 warnings since we requested it just before midnight UTC, so I think we are OK on that now. BTW, four warnings aren't actually required. For example, when there isn't any possibility that an edit was made in good faith—e.g. if it is just filthy language or garbage like "fdsjfgkdjsaTgyehsjekghsikebdhjxztkegfv"—it is OK to start with a level two warning. When an account re-commences obvious vandalism very shortly after a block expires, you can start with level three or higher. If an account has vandalised many articles in a very short space of time and is still active, you can leave a "immediate" ({{uw-vandal4im}}) warning and get ready to go straight to WP:AIV. It is all about minimising harm to the encyclopedia. - Pointillist (talk) 13:32, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the clarification. --Diannaa (Talk) 14:52, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


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Because you just got another barnstar! Great work with that reverting, I can barely keep up! Sellyminime (talk) 00:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


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This is the only warning you will receive by trying to beat me to vandalism. Please stop. Here's your barnstar. Wayne Olajuwon chat 20:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

For the revert to my talk page. Wish I hadn't seen what was written :( AnemoneProjectors 20:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

oh, sorry for that. They say some harsh stuff. I also don't know what was written anymore, if it's consoling you. I have to forget fast or I get to much sensory overload in RC's. --Avoided (talk) 21:05, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I deleted the edit, it wasn't that bad but... it wasn't that nice either. I'll be fine lol :) AnemoneProjectors 21:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Good :). keep peace! --Avoided (talk) 21:16, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Slow down![edit]

1. You keep beating me reverts. Stop it! Face-smile.svg 2. Here you reverted an editor who clearly stated that the previous IP had been him logged out. Take a little time to pay attention to what you are reverting. Thanks, PrincessofLlyr royal court 22:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes excuse me you are right! The word "stink" just released my revertreflex :/. But I often see my error afterwards and I could correct it. I'm trying to work fast and careful because I'm afraid to miss some vandaledits when I can't withstand with the new edits. greetings --Avoided (talk) 22:15, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
It's okay! Zeal is good. I just wanted you to slow down a little. Keep up the good work! PrincessofLlyr royal court 03:46, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar[edit]

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For beating me to reverting vandalism from my own talk page. Nicely done. Akerans (talk) 17:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Akerans! best greetings, --Avoided (talk) 17:27, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


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Stop hand nuvola.svg This is the only warning you will receive by trying to beat me to vandalism. Please stop beating me to vandalism. Wayne Olajuwon chat 19:39, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks i'm trying, this is some tough RC. Keep going! greetings --Avoided (talk) 19:52, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
This message is not intended to make you mad. :) Wayne Olajuwon chat 19:55, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
je I never supposed that. RC workers seem to be more appreciated or minded here. :)--Avoided (talk) 20:01, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for a quick intercept on Sales tax today. Folklore1 (talk) 20:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Archiving is "unconstructive?"[edit]

Hi there. Just wondering what this was all about. Thanks. - Wikiwag (blahblah...) 18:58, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi excuse me it was a "missclick", I hate it. The revert and warning button is directly above the back button. --Avoided (talk) 19:02, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh ok. Thanks for clearing it up! - Wikiwag (blahblah...) 19:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


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When are you going stop beating me to vandalism? Everybody is getting the reverts. Wayne Olajuwon chat 21:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Nice job![edit]

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Nice job beating me to reverting the vandalism on User:Jebus989! --Addihockey10e-mail 21:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, no Problem fellows. ;-D --Avoided (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Belated thanks for looking out for my poor, battered userpage! Jebus989 18:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)


Why don't you try Igloo? Wayne Olajuwon chat 20:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah lol hot ok, i'm trying. Didn't know about it. Thanks! --Avoided (talk) 20:53, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
What is this? I'm trying to revert it says an another user already did so, although nobody has reverted? --Avoided (talk) 21:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
That would be a bug. You need to let Ale jrb know about that on his talk page. Wayne Olajuwon chat 21:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Simmons (electronic drum company)[edit]

Why were my edits reverted? I added additional info, reorganized the sentence structure, and fixed a few grammatical errors.

EDIT: Nevermind, they're back now.

Destin (talk) 22:16, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry missclick. Sometimes huggle lags for me, and it's the wrong article. --Avoided (talk) 22:20, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer granted[edit]

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Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged revisions, underwent a two-month trial which ended on 15 August 2010. Its continued use is still being discussed by the community, you are free to participate in such discussions. Many articles still have pending changes protection applied, however, and the ability to review pending changes continues to be of use.

Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under level 1 pending changes and edits made by non-reviewers to level 2 pending changes protected articles (usually high traffic articles). Pending changes was applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial. The list of articles with pending changes awaiting review is located at Special:OldReviewedPages.

For the guideline on reviewing, see Wikipedia:Reviewing. Being granted reviewer rights doesn't grant you status nor change how you can edit articles even with pending changes. The general help page on pending changes can be found here, and the general policy for the trial can be found here.

If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:47, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

User warnings[edit]

IP made two edits you identified as vandalism here, and here. For some reason, Huggle did not place a user warning on the IP's talk page when you made the reverts. I've placed a level two warning. Thank you, Ronk01 talk 01:47, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Nothing to speak of. (-;--Avoided (talk) 01:51, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. You deserve a cookie. Why don't you create a guestbook?

WAYNEOLAJUWON 19:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh yummy :-)! thank you too. What a guestbook? --Avoided (talk) 19:24, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
A guestbook is something that you sign like a yearbook for example this. You should make one because many users have a guestbook. WAYNEOLAJUWON 23:16, 13 November 2010 (UTC)


Fast work. Beat me. — KV5Talk • 18:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, but sometimes it seems like for me that you can't use the whole rollbackspeed potential by using huggle. Don't know if it's only me but it often has some kind of laggs when I click on revert. greetings, --Avoided (talk) 18:49, 17 November 2010 (UTC)


Can you please explain your recent revert of my edit on 2011 Alexandria bombing ?! --Coptic101 (talk) 01:09, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry. I got the wrong one. Do you forgive me? :-( --Avoided (talk) 01:18, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

3rr warning[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful, then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. --John (talk) 01:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

where? :O) --Avoided (talk) 01:57, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Rockstar (drink). I declined your AIV report there and I encourage you to discuss your dispute in article talk rather than continuing to revert. --John (talk) 01:59, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
I was not in any conflict with the content of the article. I regarded it as typical vandalism. He didn't comment it at all. I'm controlling thousand of edits and didn't do the right action at this point. I honestly say sorry. --Avoided (talk) 02:04, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
No problem, I checked your contribs and I could see how this could happen. I've suggested article talk to the other reverter as well. --John (talk) 02:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
I wrote to him. I was never involved in an edit-war yet. Such a bad error I didn't have the right perception of the coherence. Sorry --Avoided (talk) 02:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Discussion page for Port of Southampton[edit]

On the discussion page for the Port of Southampton, you reverted to a previous version that essentially deleted my comment about the "travel brochure" writing style in some sections. However the revisions that I made to the actual article were not reverted. I don't understand how a comment on the talk page is so bad it has to be reverted but there's no problem with changes to the page itself. It's very disheartening to make a good-faith attempt to improve an article only to see it classified as vandalism. Can you explain how you came to your conclusion? Mariepr (talk) 23:03, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


Completely new abortion proposal and mediation[edit]

In light of the seemingly endless disputes over their respective titles, a neutral mediator has crafted a proposal to rename the two major abortion articles (pro-life/anti-abortion movement, and pro-choice/abortion rights movement) to completely new names. The idea, which is located here, is currently open for opinions. As you have been a contributor in the past to at least one of the articles, your thoughts on the matter would be appreciated.

The hope is that, if a consensus can be reached on the article titles, the energy that has been spent debating the titles of the articles here and here can be better spent giving both articles some much needed improvement to their content. Please take some time to read the proposal and weigh in on the matter. Even if your opinion is simple indifference, that opinion would be valuable to have posted.

To avoid concerns that this notice might violate WP:CANVASS, this posting is being made to every non-anon editor who has edited either page (or either page's respective talk page) since 1 July 2010, irrespective of possible previous participation at the mediation page. HuskyHuskie (talk) 22:15, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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You've beaten me to vandalism at least 4 times today, great job! -- Luke (Talk) 15:43, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. --Avoided (talk) 15:49, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


for this and this. Great work reverting. "Pepper" 21:24, 4 September 2011 (UTC)


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thanks for taking care of the foolishness on my userpages! Wikipelli Talk 00:38, 5 September 2011 (UTC)


How come you were inactive for a long time? WayneSlam 00:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I've been under some pressure! But wow how did you remember me? greetings, --Avoided (talk) 14:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
I gave you a barnstar before. WayneSlam 00:44, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Damn, you're fast[edit]

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You have quite a collection of these by now! This one's for beating me to the revert about, ooh, twenty times today. Yunshui (talk) 14:24, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


[1]?--Frigotoni ...i'm here; 15:08, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me! a damned accident. --Avoided (talk) 15:11, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
Ok, no probelem but please, can you remove an your advice on my user talk page? Thank you--Frigotoni ...i'm here; 15:12, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for the barnstar, Avoided! --Odie5533 (talk) 15:38, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png Hello Avoided! I hope you enjoy this cookie as an amicable greeting from a fellow Wikipedian, SwisterTwister talk 06:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

XVirus: Hi Avoided. This is about Mindmatrix[edit]

Hi I know that was not a good Idea for deleting Mindmatrix page but no one respond to me. I need help. I found a new way for reading a hierarchical structure using a single loop (solving P versus NP problem) but I cannot publish it over the net because it is so dangerous. It can be used for controlled nuclear chain reactions too and cause of that I cannot publish it over the net. I found this solution on 2009 but until now, I did not talk about it with anyone because I am afraid of results. I am leaving in Iran and therefore, I cannot publish it until solving problems between Iran and America. I need some advice and help. This is very important. By using my method, you can read a huge hierarchical structure very fast (It will not work very fast on small structures). I solve it using quantum mechanic laws and relativity. Many theories used in this structure like black holes, black material, dark energy etc. Cause of these problems finally I edit P versus NP problem page and I wrote that I solved this problem on 2009 but everyone delete my comment and no one helped me. I'm a system analyst but I didn’t have any academic degrees and cause of that everyone think I'm lying and no one want to hear my voice in my country cause of my education level. If you can help me please send me an email on or XVirus@Wikipedia. I cannot publish my name because I cannot trust anyone and I believe that you can understand my situation. If you can help me please do this and If not please do not delete my comment on P versus NP problem page. :)

tx & br
X-Virus (talk) 14:26, 7 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:11, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

What the heck do you want from me? You have insulted someone here. --Avoided (talk) 14:30, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes. I know this law and that was not a good response from me, but I can trust some Wikipedia users like you that want to help people. I believe that some Wikipedia users think like me and only thing I need is help for a solution about how I can describe this. I am under a big pressure and I cannot hide it anymore. I cannot trust anyone because this is very important. My reaction to that user was because of his/her reaction to me. You are helping me but he/she did not care about this and only thing that he can do is deleting something (I read other user's comments). — Preceding unsigned comment added by XVirus (talkcontribs) 15:26, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

A brownie for you![edit]

Brownie transparent.png Giving you a brownie because you have far too many barnstars! Thanks for cleaning up that vandalism on my talk page! Moosehadley 14:54, 7 February 2013 (UTC)


Hey, I wanted to apologize to you. I just accidentally reverted an edit of yours at Thousand Oaks High School and called it vandalism. It wasn't. I was trying to whack the two pieces of vandalism prior to the one you reverted there, and finally just ended up reverting the article to before the whole thing started. My bad all the way. Gtwfan52 (talk) 18:17, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

You're excused. I fully understand such accidents as they can sometimes happen when you're controlling the recent changes. regards, --Avoided (talk) 18:37, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Considered a personal attack?[edit]

Is this edit considered a personal attack? Eyesnore (pending changes) 18:27, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Yes. it is indisputably a personal attack. He vandalized before as well. Regards, --Avoided (talk) 18:35, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


Many thanks, Avoided, for keeping an eye out for vandalism on my personal pages. Regards, Pinethicket (talk) 18:32, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

besten dank![edit]

wie siehst Du sowas? mit einem tool, das die heftigsten reverts anzeigt? in dem besagten artikel gibt es ein oder mehrere alter egos, die anonym den protagonisten aufs tablett heben wollen, als wäre es seine homepage. Maximilian (talk) 18:39, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Es gibt einige Hilfsmittel die einem helfen die Unmengen der Bearbeitungen in der Wikipedia zu überprüfen. Ich benutze das Hilfsmittel WP:Huggle. Bei etwa 140 Bearbeitungen pro Minute ist das Einsehen aller Bearbeitungen trotzdem sehr schwer, doch glücklicherweise konnte ich bei dem Artikel was tun. Gruß, --Avoided (talk) 18:46, 11 February 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for removing that vandalism off my page !! MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:50, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

I second these thanks for this reversion you made to my talk page. I was awfully confused when i saw that orange New Message bar and the page looked just like it did last time i took a look. I had to go exploring to work out what happened! Cheers, LindsayHello 19:59, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Please be more careful[edit]

Hi... Can you tell me why you reverted this edit? I've undone the previous vandalism again. Best regards Storkk (talk) 14:49, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Hey. I'm as careful as I can be, but excuse me. I don't know how this happened. Maybe it's due to lag. Maybe I have not realized which edit I was reverting. But try it out yourself checking all the hundred different edits per minute of IPs via WP:Huggle and without making a single mistake. It happens, but its still rare though, and often I realize and undo the mistake afterwards. --Avoided (talk) 15:00, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
No worries, your enthusiasm is commendable, and it wasn't a huge deal - I just thought you might be glazing over a little at the helm of Huggle, and might benefit from a gentle reminder that thoroughness in checking what is or isn't vandalism is always appreciated by fellow editors. Best regards, Storkk (talk) 15:57, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you. Maybe I sounded a bit disenchanted but reminders are welcome and important if something has gone wrong. I hate making mistakes and carelessness. It really wears me out sometimes. regards, Avoided (talk) 16:29, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


These estimates are not correct,there are around 147 000 gypsies in Serbia,and serbian censuse poll is the best and the only source a Wikipedia should use,when it comes to population of Serbia. (talk) 16:08, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Please use the Help:Edit summary next time before you remove such information. thanks. --Avoided (talk) 16:13, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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I noticed that it's been a while since you last received one of these, so this is for all the hard work I've seen you doing lately. Widr (talk) 16:32, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you! I appreciate that happily. Best Regards --Avoided (talk) 16:38, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
... und ein Dankeschön von mir für diese bearbeiten Sie hier –
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones |The Welsh Buzzard| 09:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
... a diolch i chi oddi wrthyf am y golygiad yma
 – Gareth Griffith-Jones – The WelshBuzzard – 09:13, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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I know Widr gave you one right above, but you deserve it. Stop beating me to reverts. But seriously, great job in all your efforts and I hope to see you around a while longer. Vacation9 12:47, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! --Avoided (talk) 13:19, 18 February 2013 (UTC)