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Please update B-bot for phab:T145649[edit]

The use of API action=purge via GET has been deprecated since September 2016. I plan to remove the ability to use GET in February 2017. Please update your bot to use a POST so it may continue to work. Thanks. BJorsch (WMF) (talk) 04:11, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

@BJorsch (WMF): Noted. I am currently out of town traveling, but will do this next week. --B (talk) 04:12, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
@BJorsch (WMF): I apologize for not getting back to you sooner - I looked and everything seems to be doing POSTs. Are you sending this message generically to everyone or only to people who are showing up in server logs as doing gets. If the latter, could you please give me an example from the log of a get? I'm using the C# SDK so things are encapsulated a bit, but it looks like every WebRequest has a Method of "POST". --B (talk) 02:07, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
It was specific to people who were showing up in the logs, and I see B-bot is still showing up. An example from the log I'm looking at is "purge-via-GET" "B-bot" "XXX.XX.XX.XXX" "" "DotNetWikiBot/3.14 (Microsoft Windows NT 6.2.9200.0; .NET CLR 4.0.30319.42000)", at 2017-02-08T23:10:02Z with a request for /w/api.php?action=purge&titles=Zee_Africa&forcelinkupdate. I see 327 similar hits in the past 24 hours.
If nothing else, it'll probably start giving you errors once 1.29.0-wmf.11 is deployed here in 16 or so hours. BJorsch (WMF) (talk) 04:09, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
@BJorsch (WMF): Okay, thanks, I must have missed that one. I'll fix it tonight when I get home. --B (talk) 13:37, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
@BJorsch (WMF): This should be fixed now. --B (talk) 00:35, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Bot creation of categories[edit]

Is there any particular reason your bot is creating Category:Items pending OTRS confirmation of permission as of February 2017, Category:Wikipedia files with unconfirmed permission received by OTRS as of February 2017, and Category:Wikipedia pages with unconfirmed permission received by OTRS as of February 2017 an entire month before there is a chance they will even be populated? It's just creating clutter to work around on Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories. In fact, would it be possible to only create these categories once your bot detects they are populated? I find a ton of these maintenance categories stay empty throughout the month and get unnecessarily created in the first place and take up admin time to delete once the month finishes out. Any thoughts? Thanks, VegaDark (talk) 01:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

  • I was really hoping you would respond to this in a timely manner. It's now almost the start of February and I'm worried that you haven't made the change to your bot as requested and that it's going to create the categories for March as soon as February rolls around like it did last time, continuing to unnecessarily clutter up cleanup reports. You have made edits since I left this message so I have to assume at this point you're simply ignoring my request. Please respond to this acknowledging that your bot will no longer be creating these categories so far in advance (and ideally only once it becomes populated - Category:Wikipedia pages with unconfirmed permission received by OTRS as of January 2017 has remained empty the entire month), or I will be forced to consider you to have run afoul of Wikipedia:Bot policy#Good communication and escalate the matter. VegaDark (talk) 01:55, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
    • Good grief. This is done, but you need to take it down about 5 notches. --B (talk) 01:44, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned PDFs[edit]

Dear Bot: This is LexLife . I'm relatively new at editing Wikipedia, but spent quite a bit of time editing Beaverbrook Art Gallery yesterday. That included uploading two PDFs of public-domain legal documents (File:Beaverbrook Art Gallery Dispute—Arbitral Award (2007.03.20).pdf and File:Beaverbrook Art Gallery Dispute—Appeal Decision (2009.08.27).pdf and then referencing them in the article (see notes 16 and 17). I just got your automated message that these files are orphaned and are now marked for deletion, so it must be that I haven't referenced them properly. They are meant to be files to link to, not images within the article. If you want to point me to a tutorial to fix this, that would be alright, though I already attempted to do what I thought the tutorial was telling me to do. LexLife (talk) 03:48, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

@LexLife: - there generally is not a need to store files at Wikipedia unless you're embedding it in the article. If the article should link to these documents, then we should link to them wherever they are hosted. --B (talk) 01:44, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned .png's[edit]

Dear Bot: This is PoqVaUSA. My situation is similar to LexLife above. I uploaded two screen images from Star Trek Fan movies specifically to document the name of the Starship and the NCC number associated with that name, for the two Fan series: Starship Exeter and Starship Farragut. I don't think it is worth including those images directly in the Wiki article, but I don't want to post an assignment of NCC number for a web series without having some documentation for that claim. The article is: "Star Trek fan productions". The two images are: USS-Exeter-NCC-1706.png and USS-Farragut-NCC-1647.png. The article only makes reference to the images and does not display them. Is that a legitimate use, or are the only options to either display the images in the article or delete the images from the Wikipedia Commons? I am not aware of any other images already in the Commons that would serve the purpose, and I'm not really sure how to search for such images either. The original source is a video rather than an image, so unless a person goes to the specific frame in the video, the documentation aspect is lost. PoqVaUSA (talk) 18:25, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Bot error[edit]

Hi, Bot-B incorrecly tagged File:A Sort of Homecoming (film) 2015 poster.jpeg as an orphaned image, so I reverted it, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 18:48, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

@Atlantic306: Thank you for reporting this bug. There is an issue with the engine that I am using to pull the list of orphans - there are hoards of false positives on the list. You can see that it shows up on Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused non-free files, even though it very clearly is not orphaned. So what I do is I purge and refresh the image links before tagging an image as an orphan, which should prevent me from tagging any of these numerous false positives. I think I have an explanation as to why this didn't work correctly - it looks like Wikipedia was having troubles at the time that the bot was running. (It logged a server error in my event log.) So probably I failed to purge and refresh the image links, which caused it to think that the image actually was still an orphan. I will modify it so that if we fail to refresh the image links, it will skip the file. --B (talk) 01:52, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for explaining and sorting it out Atlantic306 (talk) 14:43, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Illustration to article Alfred Gordon Clark/Cyril Hare[edit]

<<‪B-bot‬ left a message on your talk page in "‪Orphaned non-free image File:AAGC late 40s.jpg‬".>> I am the son of the late "Cyril Hare" and what I am trying to do is to replace the photograph of my father which currently illustrates the article - an image made I think from an old Penguin paper back - with a better image of the same photograph, taken from an original print. The photograph was taken in 1946 or 1947, not the 1950s as currently stated, and was taken by a photographer called Austin Youell, of Leatherhead, Surrey. He might as well be credited, and although technically the photograph may still be in copyright, probably under the 70 year rule until this year or last year, it was used so extensively by Penguins that I consider it must be fair game to use it now. Charles Gordon Clark, Bromyard, HerefordshireChipgc (talk) 19:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

@Chipgc: Mr. Clark, if you make a request at WP:MCQ, they can help you out with image copyright issues. The short version is that Wikipedia is going to want a copyright release from the copyright holder. --B (talk) 01:54, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

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AN/I discussion[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. VegaDark (talk) 02:24, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Apache Wickiup, Edward Curtis, 1903.jpg[edit]

Greetings, does File:Apache Wickiup, Edward Curtis, 1903.jpg still need full protection of the local file? Or any protection, in fact? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:26, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

I have no opinion. The issue 9 years ago was that it was vandalized and nobody noticed it for months. If someone would like to remove it, they are welcome to do so. --B (talk) 18:05, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Uploaded Image Not In Use[edit]

Hey there,

Got a message from you saying that an image I uploaded is not in use:

"The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia."

It's being used as the logo here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FXCM - I've checked the file names for the image you referenced and the one used on this page and they're definitely the same. I think flagging this image may have been done in error.

Lenticularphoto

  • @Lenticularphoto: At the time that the image was tagged, it had been removed from the article. Please see [1] for the old revision. Once the image was re-added, B-bot removed the orphan tag automatically. Unfortunately, being a bot, B-bot can't make judgments about whether the reason for removing an image from an article is a good one - it only knows that it is removed. But it is always re-checking to see if the image has been re-added so that things don't get accidentally deleted. --B (talk) 15:02, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Marie-Hélène Arnaud[edit]

I gave a rationale for File:Arnaud Chanel 1958.jpg but just in case I've added to it. Under the heading Summary. Thanks, Ericoides (talk) 18:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

  • @Ericoides: As an FYI, File:Arnaud Chanel 1958.jpg was tagged by User:B-bot because at the time it was tagged, it was not used in an article. The reason that the image was not used in an article is that User:JJMC89 bot (not B-bot) had removed the image from the article. Unfortunately, B-bot can't really judge whether the reason for removing the image was a good one or not - it just tags images that are orphaned and remain orphaned for a day or more. --B (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Ah, OK, thanks for letting me know. Ericoides (talk) 15:27, 23 May 2017 (UTC)