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WikiProject Merger[edit]

Unfortunately, our name itself is already meaningless. We cover Cryptozoology, which isn't strictly paranormal, and ghosts, which some consider supernatural. There's occasionally talk of renaming it WikiProject Weird, but the general consensus is that that would simply offend everyone involved. "Paranormal Investigation" would be asking for trouble, as well, since we already have some problems with people wanting to discuss their own paranormal experiences on the Project talk page. I do see what you're saying, but I still think the fact that they're essentially a subset of our project needs to be addressed (they exist to NPOV paranormal pages...which is obviously something we do, as well). Thanks, though. --InShaneee 14:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar.png The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
For dedication to improving and expanding Wikipedia. Good job! Sharkface217 02:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


Hi - I've got the bot running an update now (I was having some errors last time - interent connection problems I think). The only problem is that this page will be huge - with 7908 entries (all subpages included, and those with minor edits included too (that was a bug in the last one - didn't recognise pages which had a minor edit on top)). I'm happy to keep it running now, but if you;d prefer a different approach, feel free to say :-) (a seperate list fo "new pages" will be generated by the bot, for ease of access :)) Martinp23 21:37, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh - it's no problem :) I was more worried about a web-browser's ability to load the page than the bot's time! I had a "coding urge" just after I started the bot, so I had to stop it an write another task. So your bit gets done, I'm going to put it on my server overnight (and pray for no errors). Thanks, Martinp23 22:47, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
 :( There was an error - it could be because I'm testing in mono, or could be a transfer induced error. Either way, I can't fix it right now - sorry. I'll run it tomorrow (I'm also sending you an email). Martinp23 23:19, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Oops - nevermind - your email isn't set/is hidden. If it's hidden, and you can send me an email, I'll be very appreciative (as I can then send you an email about something I can really only say off-wiki). Thanks, Martinp23 23:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi - I managed to get it going on the server, and it's completed now - see User:MartinBotII/WPStability. At the top, there is also a link to pages created within the last 30 days. Hope this helps (and let me know when you need it doing again!) -- Martinp23 17:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VI - November 2006[edit]

The November 2006 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

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Pity you never heard of it, you should try them. The first four (The Winter Queen, The Turkish Gambit, Murder on the Leviathan and The Death of Achilles) are translated into English (publisher Random House), with the fifth (Special Assignments) scheduled for January in the UK alone. I think you won't be disappointed. Errabee 14:39, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

November Esperanza Newsletter[edit]

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Program glitch[edit]

The program somehow shifted me into one of the other skin styles and refuses to allow me to return to monobook default. And I mean REFUSES. I've tried to change it several times with no results. What do I do? Badbilltucker 20:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Have you tried a hard reload? (Ctrl-F5 or Ctrl-Shift-R after changing your preferences)? Should you have trouble accessing your preferences, you can use . Hope that helps, Kusma (討論) 20:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
(edit conflict):I'm not sure, so I'm leaving the helpme. Just to check - have you tried Ctrl-F5, and shutting down the browser and restarting it? Also try logging out and checking your logged out skin. These are only guesses, I'm afraid. Martinp23 20:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
When you're not logged, do you stay on that skin? -- lucasbfr talk 21:05, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes. Actually, I can't get the my preferences page to respond to anything I want it to do, so I can't actually say which skin I am currently using, just one I've never seen before. It seems to have a first sidebar containing "user page", "discussion", "edit this page", "+", "history", "move", and "unwatch". But, like I said, I can't get the "my preferences" link to respond at all, so I can't be sure which skin this is. Badbilltucker 21:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
Have you tried clearing your browser's cache? Kusma (討論) 21:17, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

It seems to have responded to a total clear. Thanks, all. Badbilltucker 21:21, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Rating for Peter, the Lord's cat[edit]

Hi Bill,

I'd welcome your comments at Talk:Peter, the Lord's cat/Comments on your rating for Peter, the Lord's cat. I didn't know how to rate it because it's very short but also (as far as I can see) pretty much complete. Thanks, Stephen Turner (Talk) 14:30, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Great, thanks for your comments. Stephen Turner (Talk) 15:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Cats project newsletter[edit]

Hello. Please find here a copy of the first Cats WikiProject newsletter. Please feel free to make any comments, suggestions, etc., here or at the project page itself. Thank you. Badbilltucker 15:50, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

SD WikiProject Work[edit]

Thank you for all the work you've been putting in on the South Dakota WikiProject. I've been really busy with SD election stuff and haven't been online much. And thanks for moving the project out from my userspace. I had started adding banners because I read it was a good way to advertise, but I didn't think that it would be bad while the project was still a proposal. So thanks for all you've done. Starting tomorrow, I'll have time to pull my weight. - Lex 21:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Anton Alexander von Werner[edit]

I hope you don't mind that I re-rated him from Top to Mid-importance. While this picture is certainly famous, I don't think he's in the same league as Otto von Bismarck and Johann Wolfgang Goethe. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 23:19, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Strangely enough, {{GA-artists}} automatically includes pages in Category:Wikipedia CD Selection - People no matter how important they are (whatever "importance" means), perhaps as a way to populate the CD selection? Kusma (討論) 06:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
That would explain his inclusion and that of several others, then. On that basis, I have no objection to his stating mid-importance or at any other level. Badbilltucker 13:49, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Project HoP[edit]

Yay, thank you for the Wikipedia:WikiProject History of photography template! But having said that, I have to drop out temporarily, as it's very late, I'm very sleepy, and tomorrow promises to be one of the most gruesome days of the year. A bit later, though, I hope to start splattering your template on talk pages. (Tell me a few names you like and I'll do them first.) -- Hoary 15:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Unusual (funny articles)[edit]

Just thought you might get a kick out of some unusual, funny?, articles at: robertjohnsonrj 21:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Looks like you're not logged in[edit]

From the recent pattern of edits on your user page, it looks like you might be editing without being logged in. Just wanted to bring it to your attention! -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 21:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

You're right, too many screens open. I've corrected it now. Thanks for calling it to my attention. Badbilltucker 21:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

No problem! Normally I assume that edits to a user page from an anon IP are vandalism. But in this case, the edits didn't say "you suck!", so I looked at it a bit more carefully. :-) -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs) 21:51, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

BAE Systems[edit]

Hi, thanks for adding the WikiProject Aircraft template. I take no offence from you adding a "B-Class" rating - It's neither a FA or GA. However I'm working toward a FA for the article and would welcome any pointers you have; important missing topics, factual errors, etc. Many thanks, Mark83 00:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

All excellent suggestions, thanks very much. Regarding BAE/BAe: perhaps the best solution would be to use the abbreviation BAE, but extend the few "BAe" abbreviations to British Aerospace. Regarding the board: I'll do a quick review of their bio's and write at least a stub on any notable ones and remove any non-notable links. Thanks again. Mark83 14:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for answering my question about African Wikiprojects. XYZ CrVo 01:09, 14 November 2006 (UTC) I have begun proposing WikiProject Africa at User:XYZ CrVo/WikiProject Africa


I replied to your message on my talk page. Just figured I'd let you know. thadius856talk 03:48, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


We should probably ask other projects that invlove the continent Africa to merge with us. It will help us review articles more quickly. XYZ CrVo 01:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC) Can't find Wikipedia's rating site where they have a lot of articles rated. XYZ CrVo 02:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)


Please tell me what needs to be done to Wikiproject Africa on my talk page User talk:XYZ CrVo Thanks again XYZ CrVo 21:40, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I've just noticed you've posted something on the African-Notice board. Thank You for all of your help once again;)

How do you make a to-do list? XYZ CrVo 00:53, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I can't find assessments of African articles. Where can they be located? I've found Western Africa. XYZ CrVo 21:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Some African countries are located here. Wikipedia:Article assessment/African countries Can we use these?

I tried adding Ghana in, but hit a problem...  !User:XYZ CrVo:Mypage! Ghana appeared twice, the one I added. Please help. XYZ CrVo 23:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Dallas talk[edit]

Your discussion has been moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Dallas/Strategy. The purpose of the page *is* to function as a talk page, thus the talk page is a redundancy ;). Responses will be there instead of the page you may have on your watchlist. drumguy8800 C T 20:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)


I was not trying to create a problem and pick a fight with you and I apologize for having reverted the talk page. Alyeska 00:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

For what little it might be worth, having looked over another talk page, I believe that statement may only apply when the comments being deleted are clearly out of bounds in terms of civility or something else. In general, unless the comments on the talk page are in some way semi-official or related to some sort of official action, any and all comments can be removed. Several editors have a habit of removing any and all comments requesting action (fix spelling, whatever), as soon as action is taken. Those rules do not necessarily apply in instances where there is no form of official or semi-official action implied or expected. Badbilltucker 00:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
I see. Well my preferred method is to leave all text and entries in the discussion page because its the real history of what happened. I have nothing to hide and I find the open ability to see and view the discussion allows for honest opinion and potential growth. But to each his own. As I said, I didn't mean to cause you trouble. I reposted our conversation on my talk page for simplicity to make it easy to know what we discussed. Alyeska 02:04, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject University of Virginia[edit]

I have no problem having my WikiProject userfied... my problem is that other Universities much smaller (see Ohio Wesleyen University) and the same amount of members was around much longer than the one I created and is still active. It's not even a public institution! Who decides which universties are scoped well enough to continue and those that aren't... if you don't think a University is a large enough scope that is fine by me... but be equitable and userfy them all as opposed to picking and choosing the flavor of the week. Jazznutuva 13:15, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree with you... and I was unfortunately shooting the messenger because I could not find the discussion chain for the deletion... it's just annoying when you make the effort to do something and they don'y give it more than 3 days to mature without checking out other projects under the same scope and leave them sit there without any activity. I speant a lot of time researching to make sure that other projects had the same scope as mine before investing hours to create it... and I had found ones smaller which were not as active. Thanks for responding. Jazznutuva 14:13, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Next Step?[edit]

What should the next step be for the proect? XYZ CrVo 03:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

¡Hola! I really am having a hard time thinking of a name for a WikiProject involvong American Soccer. Any thoughts, shrewd ideas or words of wisdom?XYZ CrVo 21:41, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Too big[edit]

I was thinking more of North America and Canada. Having two continents creates too big of a division in the project. I am open to the idea of incorporating Central Amrica though. XYZ CrVo 22:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

No I won't/don't. I listen to you because you know wikipedia much better than I do. I ask myself if your answers are logical and they are. Besides I usaully can't think of anything better than what you say.

RfA thanks[edit]

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Thank you for the Support

I'd like to express my huge thanks to you, Badbilltucker, for your support in my recent RfA, which closed with 100% support at 71/0/1. Needless to say, I am very suprised at the huge levels of support I've seen on my RfA, and at the fact that I only had give three answers, unlike many other nominees who have had many, many more questions! I'll be careful with my use of the tools, and invite you to tell me off if I do something wrong! Thanks, Martinp23 14:34, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Improvements to the Psychology portal[edit]

Hi, I'm working on trying to get Portal:Psychology up to Featured portal status. Any tips you can offer on how to improve it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Rfrisbietalk 15:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs[edit]

  • Would you mind reminding me what the criteria is for the Did You Know section? I bet I can think of a few ... Thanks! Keesiewonder 16:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
I added some criteria to Portal:Dogs/Did you know that are loosely based on Wikipedia:Did you know. Rfrisbietalk 22:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Unsurprisingly, a response to your false assumptions.[edit]

Believe me, I don't want any contact with you more than is the mininum required, but I refuse to stand by and be slandered. I became ill because I nominated two articles at FAC and another for peer review at the same time. I have had positive interactions with editors the entire time I have edited Wikipedia, and any acrimony has been rapidly sorted out via talkpages. So I would suggest that it is in fact your attitude, and your failure to assume good faith(and assuming reasons for my illness because you have already passed judgement on me), and your attempts to have the last word that are continuing this issue. I have never questioned anyone's judgement (except yours now, because I'm fed up with the circular discussion), as I have mentioned in the many of my responses which you have apparently not read, I am not questioning Evrik's motives or saying he is anything any than a perfectly honest Wikipedian with good intentions. In fact, it is you who have accused me of overreacting, of being irrational, and of apparently interrogating people who do not agree with me. I haven't interrogated anyone. I have repeatedly asked Evrik to refrain from insisting he has consensus on his side when he does, and to clarify what he did not like about the barnstar's image. This does not, I believe, constitute attacking someone. I have been perfectly civil, and it is you who have been hurling judgements and assuming bad faith and other things about me that you are thoroughly wrong about. Unsurprisingly, I have defended myself, and so you then accused me of "inserting" myself into every discussion, though that discussion was, in fact, a slander of me. I am sick of this. So what to do next? Well, I will remove our entire discussion from the barnstar page, as it has nothing to with the proposal itself. If you will refrain from attacking me, I will refrain from defending myself. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 21:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Please note my earlier request that I did not want a response. If you should continue to indulge in these response attacks of yours, either here or on the proposed banner page, not that I have any intention of any further actions on that issue, I will seek arbitration. Badbilltucker 21:15, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Whatever. Incidentally, we have met before - ironically, it was on Concordia. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 21:37, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Arbitration request is now being filed as per your failure to abide by the simple request made above. Badbilltucker 21:38, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

RfM in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Awards[edit]

I can't find a dispute of any kind anywhere on that page, nor an edit war on the main page. Why did you tag it for RfM? Did I miss anything? If it was an accident, please remove the tag. Thanks, Ynhockey (Talk) 22:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Request for Mediation[edit]

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WikiProject France[edit]

I have started a temporary project page at User:SlaveToTheWage/WikiProject France based on WikiProject Germany. STTW (talk) 14:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the support. We now need to get some more interested members for the project to run smoothly. STTW (talk) 17:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Munich[edit]

Would you be interested in helping out atWikiProject Munich? And you don't have to know anything about Munich. Maybe you could help out on bringing Munich-related articles up to Wikipedia Policies and guidlines standards or maybe another area where you could help improve Munich-related articles. Kingjeff 18:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


Why are you adding cat and dog project banners to animal rights related pages? -Localzuk(talk) 19:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I have removed them from a few animal rights pages (the ones I have found). Yes, dogs and cats are a part of animal rights but so are dozens of other animal species and adding them to every project that is created for a species would be a little OTT. I think these articles would only just be related to those projects and shouldn't be included in their scope.-Localzuk(talk) 20:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
It isn't about WP:OWN, it is about whether the pages would gain anything from being part of those projects - and I do not think they would. What do you mean by I may have issues in future?-Localzuk(talk) 21:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I see where the problem lies. I am not acting as final arbiter, I am just being bold and making a decision based on my long experience of the articles.-Localzuk(talk) 21:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry but I am slightly confused. You unilaterally added the banners without prior discussion on the pages then say I am breaching WP:OWN by removing them? I have explained why they should not be included - as the link is tenuous at best. Also, WP:BOLD applies to all of wikipedia, not just articles. Finally, my experience of the articles is that they do not really touch on the subject matter of cats or dogs in any more than a brief mention - this does not require any input from projects that focus on those species - and their time would be much better spent on pages such as West Highland White Terrior and similar. Good look with your projects also.-Localzuk(talk) 21:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)


Do you think it would be we wise to start assessing articles to draw members?XYZ CrVo 23:29, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

You're very kind.[edit]

I appreciate your welcoming me into the Religion Project. I was a little reluctant to join, because of the obvious potential for conflicts of interest. However, I have some journalistic experience, and have been involved in community, political and ecumenical projects which required objectivity despite strong personal opinions.

All I can say is that I will do my best to maintain a neutral POV, and hope to make a contribution of some value to the project. --Jgilhousen 23:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom questions for Paul August[edit]

Hi Bad. I've answered your questions. Thanks for asking. Paul August 22:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Soft drinks project[edit]

I did my part and went and spammed all the Coke brand talk pages with the banner plus Crystal Pepsi. Hopefully that will get some attention.

Why did I think this would happen? That's why I haven't started any WikiProjects; I'm not sure I could keep following through.

I'll do what I can, although the main reason I joined it was to try to get something going that I could get New Coke, one of the articles I work on a lot, under. Daniel Case 22:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

WP Football in America[edit]

Please visit Wikipedia:WikiProject/List of proposed projects if you want to be a part of WikiProject Football(soccer) in the USA and Canada. The page is still under construction. Feel free to join :) Thanks for your work on WP Africa again. XYZ CrVo 02:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Not Sure if I am doing this right?[edit]

Hey. Am I doing this right? I am relatively new here, and only just new how to sign the religion page. I hope I can help, and I am reltively knowledgeable at Buddhism and Catholicism (with me having gone to a Catholic Primary school and attending a Catholic Secondary school, but with me being into Buddhism, and knowing much about that). I am not too sure about what to do, and if I am not posting this right, any hints?

ChrisHigginson 06:42, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Munich[edit]

The project has already started. You can sign up here. Kingjeff 23:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC) Do you think I have too many stub categories in WikiProject Munich? Kingjeff 00:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Great idea adding the coat of arms. You're already the best member of the project. Kingjeff 00:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

For some reason, I have to get the Stub categories approved at WikiProject Stub-sorting. So you could tell them what you told me. Kingjeff 00:16, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I think Ignore all rules policy is the policy that should be inforced here since the current stub rules prevent WikiProject Munich from improving or maintaining Wikipedia's Munich-related articles. Kingjeff 17:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

We might as well just have Category:Stub-class Munich articles. WikiProject Toronto's scope is different then WikiProject Munich's. In fact, I think we'll do moore justice to the Munich-related articles then they will to the Toronto-related articles. I'm willing to compromise on the stubs but they aren't. They want everything their way which I think is quite unacceptable for a WikiProject. Kingjeff 19:30, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

You'll perhaps recall that a talk-page solution is what I suggested some time ago. Your definition of "compromise" seems to be to slightly reduce the number of stub types that ignore the guidelines (or to have created fewer of them in the first place than you could have?); and "everything their way" seems to mean, actually following the guidelines in any way. (For the record, I've suggested a Munich-stub and upmerged templates; it's not clear to me why that doesn't rise to the level of "compromise".) If want to manage these in a way that has nothing to do with the stub guidelines (or the stub-sorting project), then why use the name and idiom of "stubs" at all? Put them into some sort of bespoke wikiproject-specific maintenance category, and there will be no confusion. Alai 21:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)


Re your message at Wikipedia:Concordia/Proposals: Hey Badbilltucker, thanks for expounding on that. What you write is what I agree with. --ElectricEye (talk) 04:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Improvements to the Education portal[edit]

Hi, I'm working on the Education Portal to get it up to featured status. As always, I look forward to your tips at its talk page. :-) Rfrisbietalk 06:43, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Dog diseases[edit]

I can see why you have followed the red links and added the WP dogs tag to the "hemolytic anemia" page, but the page is all about the disease in humans and so might mislead readers of dog diseases. It seems to me that some of the links on the "disease in dogs" page were specific for animals (ie the epilepsy link) and some dog disease listed to not have a human equivalent disease with the same name, but I guess that many of the links on the "diseases in dogs" page are pointing to human pages when they should be a red link to a dog disease page that has not been made yet (ie "hemolytic anemia" link should be "hemolytic anemia in dogs"). I guess that it might be worth you checking and reviewing what you have done, with a view to removing tags that have been added to a page that is entirely about human diseases. It seems ironic to me that a human disease should have a dog disease disease tag even before it has a human disease tag and many readers may be puzzled by this. Snowman 21:36, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Will do. I generally tried to ensure that there was at least some content specifically relating to dogs, but, as I'm still going through the list, it won't be hard to just back up a little and ensure that canines are at least mentioned in more than weak passing in all the articles I tagged. Since the first one, I've also made sure not to tag any that don't explicitly mention canines, to prevent the same thing happening again. Thanks for the advice. :) Badbilltucker 21:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Experimenting with my new template[edit]

I just created this template {{subst:WelcomeGER}} to welcome people who have joined the project, and to advertise our open tasks. As the project's creator, you are my first test person. The welcome template still needs improvement, though, it is just a first draft. If you have an idea, please edit it. Thank you, and happy editing, Kusma (討論) 22:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I have made it no longer fail when not substituted, although it leaves an ugly {{BASEPAGENAME}} now. I removed the frame, because having a frame either means I can't sign in the template (and can't add personal notes) or I need to manually add a </div> after my signature. You forgot to close the div, so I fixed it by changing to a no-boxes version. There are tricks to include an auto-signature, of course, but they fail if the template is not substituted. Don't worry about not working enough for the project, and a happy Thanksgiving, Kusma (討論) 07:23, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to WikiProject Germany[edit]

Flag of Germany.svg

Welcome, Badbilltucker, to the WikiProject Germany! Please direct any questions about the project to its talk page. If you create new articles on Germany-related topics, please list them at our announcement page and tag their talk page with our project template {{WikiProject Germany}}. Here are some tasks you can do:

Again, welcome, and thank you for joining this project! Kusma (討論) 22:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Munich sidebar[edit]

Template:WikiProject Munich Sidebar. Tell me what you think. Kingjeff 00:16, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

For some reason, everything is align to the right. Do you know whats wrong? Kingjeff 00:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject Peru infobox[edit]

Forgot to thank you for creating it. Thanks, I was going to do it a while ago but it slipped my mind.--Jersey Devil 00:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. Thank you for all the work you've done with that project, and good luck with it and your studies. Yes, I do remember how hard university classes can be, and I hope that you make sure that you spend as much time there as you have to. Wikipedia is important, but getting through school is more important. If you want, I could prepare the template for assessment, and make the various categories and so on that go with it. I probably wouldn't be able to get around to it till Saturday at the earliest, though. Again, good luck with your studies, and thanks for your work on the Peru project. Badbilltucker 00:57, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Sure, if you have the time to do that you can definately go ahead. Thanks alot. On a sidenote, yeah it's that mid-term exam time.....Taylor series uber alles. :)--Jersey Devil 01:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


American Eskimo Dog.jpg This user is a member of WikiProject Dogs

Do you like this template? If so tell me and Ill make it our template. Culverin? Talk 06:09, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Question @ GA Box text[edit]

Please see Talk:Charles_Darwin. I'd like to edit the Good Article box (2nd from the top) to correctly say "a biologist." Can you describe to me how to do that? I couldn't figure it out amidst my first cup of coffee. Thanks so much! Keesiewonder 12:43, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Template:User WPReligion[edit]

Hi. Thanks for creating the WPReligion userbox. Any idea why it creates a redlinked category on my page (which, when clicked through, does navigate to an existing category page, but with only two pages listed)? ---- J-M Jgilhousen 19:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I appreciate the speedy reply, and your taking time to check into this. It's not a big deal, I would just like to keep my user page redlink free. ---- J-M Jgilhousen 19:56, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Science portal[edit]

Okay, here's a big one! Please offer any feedback you have at its talk page on how to improve this portal to featured status. Thanks. Rfrisbietalk 14:48, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Germany subprojects[edit]

Do you know how we can get magic assessment logs for the Germany subprojects WP:GER/MZ and WP:MUC that do their own importance assessments? I'm not sure if I have named the categories correctly; could you take a look and then do what is necessary to get the bot to write logs and summaries for us? Thank you, Kusma (討論) 16:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

As this is the first WikiProject I'm working on, I didn't know multiple importance switches were unusual. I mainly implemented them to allow merging the Munich banner into the Germany banner (the Mainz project is just my personal little pet side project and basically an extension of my sandbox). I haven't done anything with the 1.0 project before, so I have no idea where to register our categories (other than bugging Oleg directly). Best wishes, Kusma (討論) 19:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Article on Rubeus Hagrid[edit]

This article is about a fictional half-giant/half-human, please don't tag it under WikiProject Dogs again. John Reaves 19:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


A fair point. However, you may note from the general discussion that I had announced my intention to close it around the end of November, and evrik (who is a major contributor to barnstar discussions, as I'm sure we are both aware) said that two weeks were needed. When I said "Yeah, so around December then" he didn't question it. I took my cue from that, and after exactly two weeks calculated the consensus. If someone won't to list it for removal, that's OK, as long as it isn't you, me, or evrik. :) Also, it would be good to wait a few months and see how the barnstar does. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 02:17, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Mainz articles by quality[edit]


Thank you for your help setting this up! It is very nice to have such a bot-assisted listing. The bot overwrote the "task force" with "WikiProject", so I have just made them into redirects for the time being (not that it matters much). Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 12:00, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Award explanation[edit]

"The others are very broad and some only seem to cover article mainsapce, as before, and the latter is specialised to humourous comments. I was proposing an award to cover suggestions and ideas and to show the editor is contributing to discussions in a helpful way, perhaps. This will also be based, but not only, on the number edits they make to discussions of articles and maybe users. I hope this does not encourage vandalism but is a form of encouragement to new and existing editors. However i am not trying to replace other awards. Simply south 16:44, 27 November 2006 (UTC)"

I have put this in speech marks as i have posted this on the awards propsals page in response the evrik and hopefully to more define the question proposal generally. Is it clearer or a wordy way of saying the same thing? Simply south 16:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

It's clear enough. I think the question being raised is more about whether the award is required by circumstances. I don't think anyone is saying that awards for such conduct are a bad idea, simply questioning whether this particular award proposal is likely to be used and whether existing awards would be sufficient in instances where this particular award could be used. Proliferation of barnstars is something generally everyone is trying to avoid, and there would be an infinite number if action to prevent it were not taken. I hope you realize that even those who oppose the proposal do not oppose giving out barnstars in those situations where such an award is deserved, but simply oppose the creation of an additional award. Badbilltucker 16:58, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Just to say i do know that people are not opposing giving out barnstars and i am sorry if it read like that. There is the discussion about whether Working Man, Dilligent and Tireless Contributor are duplicates and changing Working Man to Working Person. I am hoping this award is not a duplicate and covrs an area that hasn't really been covered much; more as a general award though. I understand about producing too many awards but I am not meaning this as clutter. Btw, do you think this 2nd (3rd) image is okay? A simplistic approach.
2nd try with 3rd image

Simply south 17:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

(image left)

I actually like the image above quite a bit, partially because I am more than a bit fond of the old comic word balloon and I think it conveys the point well. I can also agree that it might help to promote more talk page discussion, but can also understand the reservation some might have that creating a barnstar for something one hopes will become more of a common practice could be eventually unproductive if the practice never develops. I can see the perceived need for the award, but am still dubious as to whether the creation of the award will assist in having that need met. Badbilltucker 17:41, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

It might help.

Do you think i should put up this image as well? (Worse even IMO)

The 3rd try with 2nd image uploaded. Note:Have been trying to design the Barnstar also with advice from Persian Poet Gal and some from KP Botany. Thanks to all for advice.

Simply south 18:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

WP Food and Drink[edit]

Thanks for putting up the assesment page and the catch on Stir frying!! Sjschen 01:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

re Category:Canada articles by quality[edit]

What's going on with this? All these categories remain empty... is the A-class etc. ranking a real Wikipedia thing? This was tagged for speedy delete as empty. I untagged it for now, but is it going to be used, or what? Herostratus 03:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Good question. Someone changed the criteria in the banner to fill other categories, making these redundant. I am tagging them all for speedy delete now. Sorry for the inconvenience. Badbilltucker 14:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


WikiProject Chemistry would like to see this portal attain featured status. If you have any tips, tricks or suggestions, please feel free to add them here! Thanks, riana_dzasta 05:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Nepal[edit]

  • You need not thank me, sir. In fact, being a Nepalese and a South Asian, I need to thank you for your interest in improving articles related to this part of the world. There are a lot of pages pertaining to Nepal in wikipedia. We need to manage these pages and create a better wikipedia. Thanks for the improvements in Wikiproject Bhutan page. Hope that you can tolerate my presence in these projects! Thanks again.--Eukesh 15:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


Hello there ; thanks for letting me know about the proposed radio programmes project. I'd be happy to contribute to most areas of the genre - my particular interests lie in comedy and science fiction ; but I'll write about anything! --Zaphod Beeblebrox 16:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

It might be an idea to acquire the interest of the old-time radio community, since they would probably be the largest contributors to the wikiproject. For that purpose, I have started a discussion on the old-time radio talk page. --PhantomS 00:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I've posted to the amateur radio wikiproject as well and reopened discussion on the radio stations wikiproject. I have also posted about it on IRC, and there seems to be some interest there. --PhantomS 03:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The unfortunate WP:SFD[edit]

I'm not sure I'd agree it was "unfortunate" that guideline-ignoring stub types can be nominated for deletion, but note that SFD isn't part of WP:WSS, it's just yet another deletion process page (no membership or jacket required). (The rather massive overlap in personnel is probably somewhat inevitable.) We'd be having much the same whether or not stub types were still handled at TFD, CFD, or a muddled combination of the two, as previously. All quibbling aside, though, I'd like to thank you for your helpful interventions in this matter: patience has been known to wear a bit thin at WSS in cases like this, where an over-keen or just plain dogged newcomer insists that we ignore all stub-sorting practice for their (alleged) benefit, or rationalise it from the ground up. Having a less "involved" party can be very beneficial. Alai 17:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

That's quite all right, that was pretty much my impression of the situation. It's regretable if the complexities of SFD or WSS/P present a 'barrier to entry' to more people participating, both because of, as you say, "democratic" considerations (I put that in quotes as we in Wikipedia seem to have a constitutional monarch, and no constution (like the UK, though the similarities in governance end there)), and because of course the project needs all the "fresh meat" it can get, to deal with our numerous backlogs. If you have any suggestions as to what are the main areas of cognitive overload, I'd be keen to try and address them, either by simplifying if possible, and trying to explain them better if not. (We're probably in need of something of a "jargon file" someplace, and I've noticed that 'upmerged templates' for one thing are a mantra of several regulars, and often entirely bemuse passers-by.) Alai 15:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Discussion award queries[edit]

Do you think this should be also be for discussions on user talk pages as well, pref about articles? or not? Or should that even be a seperate award? Also, should i raise this on the proposal page?

Simply south 15:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm not really sure. That seems a completely different idea altogether. Why not propose that seperately as it seems to be a reasonable award? Hopefully not clutter.

One other thing. Should the award focus mainly on controversial articles or articles in general (Original proposal)? Simply south 16:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

And then back to the Working Man controversy.

Anyway, Jeffpw's statement on the award, as you can see is

"The Discussion Barnstar is awarded to editors who make significant use of an article's Talk Page in order to discuss changes to the article and achieve consensus, rather than simply making wholesale changes, especially to controversial articles. The award was created in order to encourage editors to discuss, rather than engage in edit wars."

Does this focus on controversial articles or is it also general? However, i do appreciate what he\she has put. Simply south 16:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your support at RFA[edit]

I wasn't going to send thank-you cards, but the emotional impact of hitting WP:100 (and doing so unanimously!) changed my mind. So I appreciate your confidence in me at RFA, and hope you'll let me know if I can do anything for you in the future. Cheers! -- nae'blis 23:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Coccidioidomycosis and dogs[edit]

What does Coccidioidomycosis have to do with dogs? You recently edited it's talk page.

Thanks for the reply on my talk page. Is there a project for illnesses, or for fungal infections? There is one for viruses, I wonder if they would to expand their scope to all microorganisims. Ariel. 23:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
I found Wikipedia:WikiProject Disease but it's inactive.
Personally I think pages should be tagged as 'Dog' only if they are specifically about dogs, but for illnesses that affect dogs, and other animals as well, they should go to the project for illnesses. Ariel. 23:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

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Oh, the humanity!

I had my doubts about accepting a nomination for a second RfA, but even I couldn't have predicted the stir it caused as it drifted to the ground in flames! Still, it was as educational as ever. Thanks for your input; it will be on my mind as I continue to edit Wikipedia, and perhaps I will have earned your support if another nomination comes around. Kafziel Talk 15:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Stability bot[edit]

I'll be glad to run it again! I should do it on Saturday - if I don't, feel free to remind me! Thanks Martinp23 18:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi - the bot is running now. Unfortunately, there's a big storm over where I am (I know, seems irrelevant!), which may cause my internet to stall at some point, though I'll try to keep it going (there are 8699 pages). Thanks Martinp23 18:30, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi again - the bot has half-run - you can see the summary at User:MartinBotII/WPStability. I'm just waiting for it to complete the table now. Thanks Martinp23 16:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I believe that it finished on Monday, same link as above. Where it says "blob", it was unable to get a timestamp for the last edit (I'm going to try to fix this) and has defaulted to "active" status (sorry for the inconvienience there - it's something to do with the query system I'm using, I believe). Thanks Martinp23 20:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Well anyway, it seems to be proposed to also cover the commuter rail network (expanded beyond my proposal). Simply south 23:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Forgot to mention that the Crossrails are part of the commuter network. Simply south 23:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Rating for Kentucky article[edit]

Thank you for adding the United States WikiProject banner to Kentucky's talk page. The article was rated B-class with no comments given. The article had previously been rated B-class in its last good article nomination (which obviously failed), but since then I have worked for almost two months to significantly improve it. I am not lobbying for a rating higher than what the article deserves, but I would really like some comments on why my edits haven't elevated the article's quality rating as yet and helpful tips on things I might do to elevate it. Thanks. Acdixon 14:57, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I thought I read that an article could be given an "A" rating without going through the Good article nomination process. I do plan to nominate for good article by year's end, but I'm still doing a little cleanup. Regardless, the label isn't as important to me as any feedback you might have on how to make the article better. I really want it to pass the GA nom next month. Acdixon 15:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying, and believe me, I took no offense. I'm just trying to make the article better, so anything you can suggest would be great. I think erring on the side of caution is the proper thing to do. Acdixon 15:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Great suggestions. I noticed the trend you mentioned with climate myself. I only wish I knew enough about the general topic of climate to write something intelligent about the climate of Kentucky. I can address a few of your other concerns quickly myself. Thanks so much for your help. Guess I should get ready for a lot more of this as I try to push this article toward Good article status! Acdixon 16:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Religion project[edit]

hello -- I am not sure you interpreted my edit summary as intended. My "be aware" was relating to this edit, where I commend Wikipedia:WikiProject Germanic Mysticism to people's attention (see its talkpage, it is unclear whether the project's scope is supposed to be neopaganism, and I was hoping for more input). dab (𒁳) 15:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


I was wondering why WikiProject Dogs believes that the star Sirius has something to do with dogs? Thanks. — RJH (talk) 17:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a reach, and I can full well understand if you want to remove the banner. Basically, (1) I'm adding the banner to all articles that fall in the scope of the project, to ensure as many articles as possible get assessed (Dogs does assessment), and (2) Sirius is called the "dog star", and linked to some older legends relating to dogs, which legends do fall within the project's scope. The article is also specifically mentioned on one of the lists from, although I can't remember specifically which one right now. I was considering adding the similar banner to Canis Major, Canis Minor, and Canes Venatici as well, but thought I might well get a response from just the one. I can understand if you would want to remove it, particularly here, but would be interested in knowing in any event regarding whether you would have similar objections to inclusion on the two Canis constellations. Badbilltucker 17:37, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, okay. I have no problem with the banner then; I just didn't see the connection. — RJH (talk)

RfA: Khukri[edit]

Just a quick note to say thanks for your support on my recent RfA. It became clear very quickly that my editing background was going to detrimental to my nomination. Having seen other recent RfA's fail once one or two admins opposed and others just piled on the vote, I decided it would save the ignominy if I withdrew my nomination. I don't intend to change the work I do as it's what I enjoy, so it'll be unlikely I'll apply again. Anyway thanks again for taking the time to review my nomination and giving your support. Regards Khukri (talk . contribs) 11:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

WP Tennis[edit]

I fixed up the imaged used on the {{WP Tennis}} Template. The background is removed, do you think its better or should i take another picture?

Bearingbreaker92 22:36, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll try taking on some angles to see if i can make it any smaller.

Self-ref tag.[edit]

Back in September, you edited away the selfref tag at CfD with an edit summary of "removed self-ref tag so link to categories for discussion appears on page." I have to admit I am completely baffled by this; selfrefs do appear on Wikipedia pages (and while they may not appear on all mirrors, mirrors don't care about WP selfrefs). Was this a mistake, or...? SnowFire 06:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)


Meh, I only commented that an entire wikiproject for a single university was a bit small. Obviously if the wikiproject's fine the award is fine. I do wish you would stop pointing these things out in a condescending manner though - it's not like I'm not listening to you. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 19:42, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Van Mediation[edit]

If you are going to mediate this, I suggest you educate yourself, as some of your assumptions are missing key information. Like the fact that the Turkish Van is the name used by every major cat registry in the world, not just one. There are links to all of these in the infobox in the article. Here is a page you should read that will give some background. Note it also mentions the cats' ancient Turkish origins. I am neither making this information up, nor am I including it without references. Last, please understand that the phrase "Turkish Van" (or its direct translation in Turkish) does not even exist in Turkish making the title of the article a non issue. They only use "Van Kedisi" (Van cat) which is in reference to their idea of what a Van Cat is (all white). This is fine and an article about their point of view should exist at Van Kedisi (which it does), but that is a separate entity from the breed named Turkish Van (different breeds now, but they share common street cat in Van origins). pschemp | talk 02:28, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

And my other sources are here, here and here is a link that explains what Turcoman International was. pschemp | talk 03:25, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Burma/Myanmar[edit]

It would be great and beneficial if you could add assessment scales to Wikiproject Burma/Myanmar. --Hintha 03:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

My first WikiProject[edit]

What do i do once i have a suffecient number of interested Wikipedians? Do i copy and paste them to the participants page?

Do i move the sub-page to a WikiProject page?

What else do i need to do when setting this up? Simply south 23:40, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Does it matter if, midway through my proposal, i have caved in and changed the title of the project to Transport in Scotland?

The original project is very broad anyway. It is WikiProject Scotland. Simply south 11:33, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

How would i ask the Scottish Project to take this one on? Simply south 15:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you think that it matters if i haven't joined WP:SCOTLAND? Simply south 15:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Referring back to one of my original questions, do you think it matters if i copied the participants over from the proposals page to the project page? Simply south 17:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thats okay. I'm sorry i keep asking so many question about this. Not many people have bitten. I'm sure i've dropped them a note. It is interesting you are leaving your comments under that title as this is partially about the broadness of a project in general, sort of. Simply south 17:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Just a note, thanks for the start but this is not a sub-project of WP:TWP. Simply south 17:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Another thing. I moved Template:WPTIS Banner to Template:WPTIS for simplification. Under the category for WikiProject banners i have found one with simply Template:WPTES. Do you think these are likely to clash? Simply south 18:14, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for all your help. If there are any question in future i will drop a note. Simply south 18:24, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the barnstar. RobJ1981 05:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


BadBill, I am wondering if you could give me your opinion on two links that keep getting inserted into the Chinese Crested Dog article. I tend to remove breeder database and other commercial listings when I see them in an article and prefer to err on the side of caution, but we have a couple of editors that seem to think the breeder database should be included even though it's a commercial link and that if it is removed, that the rescue link should be removed as well. I've removed both for now (unless I've been reverted) but wanted feedback. My inclination would be to keep the link to the rescue and remove the breeder d-base. Am not invested in the outcome either way, but just want to be sure my position on article links is correct per policy. --DrL 18:37, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that info and I will look into other resources like the old project for more info. One of the site is a for-profit breeder database that makes money by advertising Chinese Crested breeders [1]. If I read you correctly, the rescue site should be included, but the other site may be too commercial for inclusion. --DrL 19:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


I just added a bit to your proposed project page. I also added my name to the list of interested parties. My primary interest in wikipedia is in making sure that projects which I feel to be important to the development of wikipedia be given as much help by me as I am able to offer. This includes all the national projects. As a result, my to-do backlog is, shall we say, frightening. I will offer what assistance I can to the project, but that will most likely be in terms of template construction and assessment. But, if there is anything I can do, please feel free to let me know. Good luck. Badbilltucker 19:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your help - I'm relatively new in the world of WikiProjects so all the help given is great! I will get to work and create a userbox! UKWiki 19:45, 7 December 2006 (UTC)


Since you commented on the Hinduism barnstar proposal I recommend you looking at the new designs introduced by User:Priyanath. Thank you. GizzaChat © 22:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Missouri[edit]

Unfortunately, featured articles are an area of Wikipedia that I have almost 0% experience with... and I'm not a native Missourian, so most of what I've got to offer is concentrated in the last five years in KC. I'll see if I can drop by though and make any intelligent commentary... Oh, and thanks for the kudos, and no, your joke didn't fall flat, I've just been too busy to do anything with WP_KC lately. -- nae'blis 04:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VII - December 2006[edit]

The December 2006 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 23:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

assessment template[edit]

regarding your message here, would you be referring to making this template resemble this one i.e. in terms of parameter flexibility? if so, i wouldn't really have much of an opinion, the subgroups/task forces haven't enjoyed much of a consensus amongst wikiproject participants, but it would still be great to have nonetheless (if i got what you meant, that is). i mean, we can already add importance/quality ratings to the template but we've been a bit lazy in a) providing criterion for assessment; b) actually using it and c) incorporating it fully into wikiproject functioning. do you have any tips on how to get this area (i.e. assessments, related templates, automated summary counts of article scalings) running smoothly, and, more importantly, up and running? thanks for your message. ITAQALLAH

ok, i'm still kinda confused: our current article assessment banner allows us to add a class/importance parameter (i.e. {{Template:WikiProject Islam|class=B|importance=mid}}), (actually, what we don't have is an automatic tabulation/count of all the quality/importance ratings for the articles related to the project) ... ITAQALLAH 16:34, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
ah, i see now. whatever you could do to help improve the banner functionality would be great :) thank you! ITAQALLAH 16:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Council[edit]

I am willing to join, but I cannot see, from looking through the pages, what the WikiProject Council actually does. Perhaps you could explain further? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 22:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, vague but developing. Ok, I'll sign up. The newsletter compilation in particular seems like a good idea. Thanks for the invite. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 23:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Category:Religious leaders[edit]

FYI, when you left your message on the various Wikiproject talk pages, you omitted the colon in front of "Category" and consequently added all of these pages to the category in question. BigDT 22:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Hamilton, Ontario Project[edit]

BB, thanks for the suggestion of creating a Hamilton, Ontario Project. I am quite frankly overwhelmed by the work on this page and its associated sub pages. Would you take a look at the article and advise as to how I may best organize a project to improve the page? 06:54, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Your comment on the LGBT board[edit]

I replied to your comment about the Boy Scout controversy article on the LGBT board. If you have the time, could you take a look and possibly reply? Thanks. Jeffpw 17:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Your comment and clarification[edit]

Your initial comment (I felt) was very clear. I was just funnin' - sorry.NinaEliza 03:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

The Fish Portal[edit]

Hi, User:Melanochromis has done a great job getting the Fish Portal up an running. At this point, more sets of eyes can help make it even better. If you can offer some tips on the portal talk page about how to improve Fish up to "featured" quality, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Rfrisbietalk 13:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Short story task force[edit]

Thanks for you input in creating the first Novels "task force" as you might see I have link this in with the "project banner", joined it myself and altered the {{NovelsWikiProject}} article talk banner to take account of it. You will also notice I changed it back to the term "Task force" as I think consistency with other projects is worth having, particularly one that is so well administered as MilHist. Anyway thanks again - the main page is most impressive but I suspect may need trimming a bit soon, but we can discuss that more later. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 10:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Assessments in practice[edit]

No problem. The only section I really disagreed about was that WikiProjects tend to focus on collaborations, then split off. I usually find that collaborations are the most difficult things to start, since they require that most of a small project works on the same thing for an extended period of time; usually, members of WikiProjects have similar preferences, but not similar enough to make such a protracted committment work. So, I usually think it is better for a WikiProject to create a framework for individual collaboration first, and then, when articles of high priority and significant difficulty are identified, for multi-editor efforts to be undertaken.

As for the sentences, it wasn't bad at all; sometimes, I have the same problem. I find that it is easier to hard-limit myself to one clause in a sentence, and then, if I am really sure that the sentence can handle more than one, add at most two. But I usually try to never have more than one subject in a sentence, and to keep them fairly short. If I need to repeat antecedents of adjacent complex sentences, it's no biggie; it's better than to have a huge run-on that leaves everyone who reads it out of breath. Just a tip... Titoxd(?!?) 21:49, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Caribbean[edit]

Sounds like a good idea. I've been thinking about either starting up a Caribbean WikiProject or a Trinidad and Tobago one for a long time. Guettarda 17:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Have you worked with the quality assessment system yet? It looks worth setting up for the Caribbean WikiProject (I'm definitely interested). Guettarda 17:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Concordia Newsletter[edit]

Concordiabig.svg NEWSLETTER

Concordia is currently trying to relaunch. I, and all the members of the ex-council, wish to welcome new members to the group. We are a group who aim to promote remaining civil, in an environment where messages can easily be interpretated wrongly.

Help out now![edit]

  • Try and help people remain civil! Talk to them, and help them in any way possible. Do not be afraid to use the talk page.
  • Give people the Civility Barnstar.
  • Make and spread some Wikitokens so people know there are people to help if they want assistance.
  • Add banners or logos to your userpage to show your support.
  • Suggest some ideas! Add 'em to the talk page.

We are a community, so can only work though community contributions and support. It's the helping that counts.

Decision Making[edit]

The council expired one month ago, but due to the current position of the group the current council will remain until the position of the group can be assessed, and whether it would be sensible to keep Concordia going. For most decisions, however, it will be decided by all who choose to partake in discussions. I am trying to relaunch because of the vast amounts of new members we have received, demonstrating that the aims are supported.

If you wish to opt of of further talk-page communications, just let us know here.

- Ian¹³/t 20:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC). Kindly delivered by MiszaBot.

Portal tips[edit]

I have done a lot of extensive work (and so has Rfrisbie) to Portal:Business and Economics. I would like to bring it to Featured Portal status and I am seeking your opinion! Please leave your suggestions at the the Portal talk:Business and Economics about how to get this portal to featured status. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Nishkid64 04:38, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

the deleting of what is believed to be valuable information[edit]

recently while working on a school process, the hard work of myself and my classmates has been completely deleted, as far as i am aware, without any justification. I feel that other than my fellow classmates, Badbilltucker is the only person here who supports this project and is working towards bettering it. It is because the actions of certain members that I am likely to discontinue my assosciation with Wikipedia. At the start of this project, i was genuinely interested in wikipedia. I would just like you to know how certain members of this project have in my mind come to reflect the entire organization in an unpleasant manner. I assure you once again that the information this class has put into this is accurate and beneficial to the project as a whole, but it was deleted unjustly. You have my sincerest apologies for my attitude towards wikipedia, but this project seems to have brought the worst in me. Thank you very much, and goodbye. I only wish that i could say that it was a pleasant experience. Halo2 Gamer 08:30, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Abortion[edit]

Thank you for joining WikiProject Abortion and especially for helping to begin the process of assessing our articles. Good to have you on board! -Severa (!!!) 12:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal review volunteers[edit]

Hi, based on your previous good deeds, please consider becoming one of the portal review volunteers and adding your name to the list. :-) Regards, Rfrisbietalk 18:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

My apparent vandalism[edit]

This is what happens when the 13-year-old nephews get to the computer. I think I have fixed the damage. BobbyLee 14:15, 15 December 2006 (UTC)


I think you are right. No one is joining a Project with a scope this big. The only problem with having it divided is that we sacrifice the standard article format. Oh well, it's probably necessary. Thanks for all your help. Once again XYZ CrVo 02:42, 16 December 2006 (UTC) :)

I think I may have worded my concern wrong. I was worried about the unity between the groups and having people who edit African articles in one place. XYZ CrVo 16:01, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject EastEnders[edit]

Just wanted to say welcome to the project! — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Fauna Barnstar[edit]

Why, thank you! :-) Though I don't feel like I've done very much. Your timing was interesting. Your placement of a Barnstar on my talk page regarding doggie contributions came shortly after Blufawn resurrected a conversation on my talk page about Tamaskan dogs ... Assuming that something someone else (Tubezone) wrote on my page was my writing ... After this, they blanked out the Afd on Tamaskan dog. Hmmmmmm. Anyway, thanks for noticing me! Keesiewonder 17:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


Could you tell me which Wikiprojcets (for countries) are needed? Thank you. Laleenatalk to me contributions to Wikipedia 19:43, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to the Films WikiProject![edit]


Hey, welcome to the Films WikiProject! We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of films and film characters. If you haven't already, please add {{User WikiProject Films}} to your user page.

A few features that you might find helpful:

There is a variety of interesting things to do within the project; you're free to participate however much—or little—you like:

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask another fellow member, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Cbrown1023 22:05, 16 December 2006 (UTC)