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Back to the Discussion Award - closure near[edit]

As you can guess from the title, this is on the Discussion Award proposal again.

Thank you for voting orginally and the additional comments. I have posted on the proposals page a closing subsection with a couple of minor issues. I would apreciate comment. The issues are title and image. See the Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/New Proposals#Closing discussion. Simply south 22:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Could i ask you to conclude and close as after 6 days (still 17th 23 mins ago) nothing has happened? Simply south 00:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Tagging film talk pages[edit]

Hi Bill,

I just wanted to let you know that I've had to remove some of the WP Films banners that you've added to certain topics. Please understand that WP Films and WP Filmmaking do not have identical scopes, and while there are some articles that do have overlap, most articles won't. WP Films tends to deal with specific films, characters, and broad film concepts such as genres and types of films. WP Filmmaking involves the technology, techniques, and terminology of actual filmmaking as a job. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding the matter, so as to avoid any unnecessary work. Thanks! Girolamo Savonarola 00:57, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick reply! But just to clarify, I don't want you to stop using the banner if it seems appropriate; I just wasn't certain that you were clear on what was actually the scope of the WP Films project, not Filmmaking. We've finished assessing all of our tagged pages which were originally all unassessed, but I'm almost 100 percent certain that there are articles on Wikipedia (or soon will be) which are deserving of the WP Filmmaking banner but have not yet been tagged. I find a few every week! Girolamo Savonarola 20:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject banners[edit]

Hey there. Could you please be a bit more conservative when adding the WikiProject banners to talk pages (WikiProject Dogs in this case)? I just don't see what the WikiProject on Dogs has to do with fictional kitsunes, webcomics with foxes in it, movies with foxes in it, fables with foxes in it, and so on. How can the WikiProject Dogs help to improve those articles? --Conti| 18:17, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I see now that the WikiProject Dogs covers canines as well, which is kinda confusing tho. Shouldn't the project be renamed to "WikiProjects Canines" then? I'm not involved in any WikiProject, so correct me if I'm wrong, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs reads like it mostly covers articles about canines and dogs in general, but not the more obscure-but-still-related topics like Shippo (which, in my opinion, looks like a good candidate for a WikiProject Anime). I think that someone who is interested in helping the WikiProject Dogs is quite probably not interested in the least in working on Ozy and Millie, for example. The WikiProject Webcomics looks like a much better candidate here.
The article rating and assessment is a good point, but it is not needed on articles that already have another WikiProject banner. If there is no banner, maybe it might be a good idea to search for a more fitting banner in some cases.
I'm just mostly afraid of talk page clutter by those banners. Robin Hood (1973 film) has dozens of different animals in it, and it wouldn't be very helpful to have dozens of WikiProject banners on the talk page, IMHO. --Conti| 19:11, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, after thinking about it for a little while, I think my main reason for opposing the addition of WikiProject banners in these cases is that they can really mess up talk pages. On some talk pages, there is a whole page of banners and notices before the actual content starts, and I usually try to minimize this by removing the not so important ones. Making the banners smaller would be very nice, do you mean like it is done on Talk:Wikipedia? That looks pretty neat. Merging two or more banners is also a very good idea. I actually wonder why we don't have one standard banner for the WikiProjects, saying something like "This article is part of the WikiProject Dogs, Cats, Films and Literature". The article rating should be the same regardless of the project, and I just don't see much of an advantage in having a number of banners on a talk page when one would do the same trick.
I still think that it's a bit much to categorize (for example) Ozy and Millie as a WikiProject Dogs article, but I don't really mind as long as the talk page doesn't get flooded by numerous other banners. I certainly see how article assessing and rating is a good thing, and getting a bit more attention (even though I think it won't be much in this specific case) is never bad. --Conti| 00:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Schnauzer help[edit]

Someone has move the Schnauzer article to one of another name. I am afraid to try to fix it because I may make things worse. Please help, and also consider some kind of reprimand for this user's activity. Thanks. (After it's fixed, maybe you can tell me how you did it as a learning experience for me?) Keesiewonder 20:31, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

  • I think I figured it out and am going to try my idea. Go to the user's contributions, then their logs, then revert for the article and the talk page (in this instance). Hope you'll help me clean up if I mess up ... Please accept my apologies in advance. Keesiewonder 20:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I think I'm done; I probably did it the hard way. Keesiewonder 20:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


Hey, I saw you were also on the list of portal reviewers, and I would appreciate it if you could give me some input on Portal:Disasters at the portal's talk page. Thanks for any help! =) Nishkid64 22:24, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

legal mumbo jumbo for images[edit]


I saw your name on Wikipedia:WikiProject Lebanon. Do you know anything about the legal mumbo jumbo for images? Please look at Image:BoNM - Lebanon.png & see if all is OK. Thanks! --Ling.Nut 00:28, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Architecture bulletin[edit]

Hello and thanks for signing up to the architecture wikiproject. Here's the bulletin - if you don't like it just delete it from this page - otherwise it's updated 'on the fly' - I've added your name to the new participants. Regards --Mcginnly | Natter 13:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Architecture Bulletin  
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A new Historic houses taskforce has been created.

Please join if your are interested!

Announcements - please add your Project announcements  

Articles at Peer Review - edit list
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Endeavour House
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New article announcements - add new architecture article to list

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New participants (add me)
Jpboudin, Mayarrow, Nwhysel, Cassianto, Jtmorgan
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AfD discussion editing[edit]

Hi ... Maybe you can lend some advice on this. The AfD discussion regarding Tamaskan Dog was deleted and then restored at my request. The administrator who deleted and restored it asked that I'd clean it up. (His text: I can restore the page, but would you be then so kind as to clean it up afterwards? There's some nasty language there. David.Monniaux 14:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)) I've asked him for guidelines on how to do that, since, of course, the discussion header says not to edit it. But ... he hasn't been able to reply yet. Do you know how I'm supposed to handle this? You can see a bit more on David.Monniaux's talk page. i.e. Do I just delete objectional text I see, or mark it with a strike through? Do I need to put a note saying what I am doing? Or shall I just be patient until the admin has a chance to reply? Thanks for whatever perspective you can lend ... Keesiewonder 19:01, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks for your thoughts. (Don't feel bad; it's just like me to ask questions that haven't been asked before ;-) )It's been about 24 hours since I did ask for clarification, and I know he's made edits since then. I think I'll give it a couple more days ... since he is an admin after all and probably has tons to do. I too should be doing something else ... but ... Keesiewonder 19:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
  • FYI, I've squirreled (sp?) around, asked some questions on an administrator page, and finally have been provided with this: [1]

Philosophy Portal collaboration[edit]

Hi, The Philosophy Portal is a new portal improvement collaboration. Please offer your advice for getting it to featured portal status at its talk page. Regards, Rfrisbietalk 22:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


I think you are right to question whether Taoism deserves its A-class status. I only looked at the article briefly, but noticed that there are no in-line references. Considering that A-class articles are higher on the scale than GAs this is a red flag. Do you know how a case like this is normally dealt with? ike9898 22:48, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


:How do you start an article? XYZ CrVo 23:29, 18 December 2006 (UTC) I figured it out!XYZ CrVo 00:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

gabriel van helsing as dog?[edit]

hi badbilltucker -- may i ask, what were you thinking by adding a dog project banner to the Gabriel Van Helsing talk page? that this fictional character briefly turns into a werewolf does not warrant such a global identification, thus i've removed it. did you mean to post something else? regards, Denstat 05:08, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

thanks for your response on my page -- i also replied to you there. cheers, and keep up your good work -- Denstat 19:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


It is a sub-usepage of RHB proposal for WikiProject England (which really does not exist!).

Simply south 19:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I forgot to mention that i have put this down on their talk page and am awaiting a reply. Simply south 19:46, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, theres a Wikiproject Scotland, WP Cornwall, notice boards for the UK/England/Scotland etc but no unified WP UK or WP England. I'm reluctant to go ahead and lead it because of other work, but I'm be happy to help set them up. Thanks, RHB 19:55, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually i have found that there is a WP UK geography which is close. Simply south 23:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Award reply[edit]

Actually, seperately, could you conclude the first award i did?


...that was on the Barnstar proposals page. Simply south 19:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Link and WikiProject Dogs[edit]

Maybe it's just me, but of all his appearances (which number over 20, if you include games, cartoons, comics, etc.) Twilight Princess is the only one where he appears as a werewolf. It seems kind of funny that as soon as he is labeled a werewolf once, the article somehow goes under WikiProject Dogs' "jurisdiction" or something. I'm not saying that different projects can't preside over a single article, but I think that's a little bit of a stretch. I'm not even sure the article even mentions more than a sentence about his TP appearance beyond the category at the bottom either. Anyway, maybe the purpose of the banner should be reevaluated. It's not like someone from WikiProject Dogs is going to actually going to be maintaining every article so tangentially related to the project. Axem Titanium 21:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not trying to put any of the "blame" (if that's what it is) on you. Maybe it should be done on a case-by-case basis with the categories as a guideline for inclusion within the project rather than an absolute rule where the category "comes with" the project. Axem Titanium 22:11, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Denmark[edit]

A WikiProject Denmark-run Denmark colloboration should be set up. Also, let's organize a council in the manner of Esperanza. Laleenatalk to me contributions to Wikipedia 01:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Your assessment of Korban[edit]

Could you please provide some comments regarding your assessment of this article and why you decided on a "B" grade? What in particular do you regard as its key defficient points? Much appreciated. Best, --Shirahadasha 04:04, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Hi Shira: No use asking, I doubt if he knows anything about the subject. IZAK 16:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Southeast Asia[edit]

I think it is better to use Southeast Asia rather than Southeastern Asia. The use of Southeastern Asia is very rare. Please modify it. THank you. I agree with such a project. Thank you. --Zack2007 16:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)



For messages to the romanian related topics you could find this link useful: Wikipedia:Romanian Wikipedians' notice board. You can add you request for participants at the project over there. Mihai -talk 17:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on Template:WikiProject Islam[edit]

Thanks a lot for making this template much more useful and also for adding it to some of the pages. --Matt57 22:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Your AWB account[edit]

Is it the 'done thing' to have two accounts, one primarily for AWB editing? I'd prefer seperating my contributions into mindless talk page tagging etc and proper edits etc. Can you throw some light on the subject? Thanks, RHB 23:35, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Do I need to have the 500 mainspace edits on the new account to have it approved for AWB? And can both accounts be approved for AWB? Thanks for your answer, RHB 13:47, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I've already got AWB on RHB so I'd get it without having 500 edits on RHB(AWB)? RHB 13:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

You just added a RELIGION[edit]

Thumbs Up Award for making me feel good

banner to an article that i have been watching and it was the first time that I'd seen that particular banner and was quite thrilled to discover that it included an image of mine. Even if you did not put the banner together, I owe you. So here is the seldom coveted Thumbs Up Award. Carptrash 00:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Offensive--> Image:7BrahmanMH.jpg[edit]

The image below is offensive and insulting to Jews who regard it as a symbol of idol worship forbidden by the Torah, especially the Ten Commandments. Kindly remove it ASAP from the tabs you are placing on religion talk page, and replace it with something more neutral (like nothing). The words on the tab are controversial enough, you don't have to embelish it with the symbol of only one religion. Pages about Judaism-related articles should not and cannot display graven images of idols etc. It would be like having a cross on a Jewish page or a Star of David on an Islamic page, it's just not right, arrogant, and in total poor taste to do it. Thank you. IZAK 16:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC) File:7BrahmanMH.jpg

Wikiproject religion[edit]

Hi Not going to get stuck into the big dispute, but to focus on one tiny issue, I do think it was a little insensitive to select a statue as an image to use when slapping a logo on talk pages connected with monotheistic religions. Just my pennyworth. Cheers, --Dweller 17:23, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Clearly, several individuals who didn't bother to look at it on the Religion page, which clearly states in the caption that it is a picture of a man meditating, will jump to their false conclusions. It is on the basis of this rush to judgement on the part of others that I am now doing what I have decided to do. Badbilltucker 17:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Bill. Please reread what I wrote. It doesn't really matter to people passionate about monotheism what it's a statue of. And even if your argument holds water, that caption doesn't appear on each tag. Meanwhile, I think it's a shame if you decide to leave. You clearly have a lot to offer the Project. Have a drink and come on back. Cheers, --Dweller 17:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Bill, in general I support your view on the religion articles, but I think this time IZAK has it right. Although it does not literally show idol worship, it shows a body position widely associated with religions that do worship idols, although often used for less specific or even purely secular meditation. But it shows it in a manner extremely suggestive of that religious practice, and only has a place on a page specifically discussing that religion. I think you used it in good faith, but any religious Jew or Moslem would object. I see it on the Religion article, and I am dubious about it there, label or no label. . It would certainly be altogther wrong on a banner used on a page for subjects related to other religions than its own. I think you should be the one to remove it. I mention my usual caveat that I have no connection whatsoever with any religious sect or group. DGG 17:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Rating of Spiritualism[edit]

Thanks, Bill, for including Spiritualism in the Religion WikiProject. I've monitored this article for the last year or so and am therefore interested in comments that would help improve it. Please let us know something about the criteria you used to evaluate the article--the best place would be in the designated section Talk:Spiritualism/Comments. Gracias Anthon.Eff 19:05, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

WP:FILMS Newsletter[edit]

The December 2006 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Please also, if you have not already, add your name to the Member List. Cbrown1023 00:18, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


Hi! Don't worry about this whole tiff with user:IZAK who though being a valuable editor to Wikipedia, has a bit of a rough touch when his feathers are ruffled! Forget about it and carry on editing like before, return to your post at your wikiproject, and understand this issue is a touchy subject. Each religion is a specialised area and IZAK may have been correct in the points he brought up, even though he could have been more civil about it. Your wikiproject can actually be very useful in several roles. The main role it would be very useful in is corroborating with all the separate religion wikiprojects so that their all their content is arranged in navigable format, e.g. Jewish Halacha is parallel to Islamic Sharia, or Christian Canon Law and Hindu Law, etc. I've been thinking about it for a while, I don't know know it can be done since each religion wikiproject already have allot of their own interlinking templates but its a very important task that I think your wikiproject should undertake. So come back and we can negotiate! frummer 00:40, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Please be in touch ...[edit]

I don't like what I see on your user page at the moment. Please feel free to email me via the toolbox link if you'd like to vent and/or see if we can find a way for me to help in some way. At the very least, I may have a story to share (misery loves company sometimes) about what may be an analogous experience in a very recent online study group. Hugs and kind regards, Keesiewonder 12:22, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


Please weigh in on this [2] Keesiewonder 11:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

hi thanks for posting this, Keesiewonder -- i read it, then followed Badbilltucker's advice and posted on the WikiProject Horror page [3]. maybe that will start clearing up the kefuffle, because it isn't fair that Badbilltucker is taking all the flak for this. cheers. -- Denstat 19:20, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Why not? I'm sure BBT is a good guy, but he's the one who tagged the articles. TheronJ 19:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Two thoughts[edit]

You sound like a real nice guy (almost too nice!), and I hope you aren't dissuaded by the wildly accusatory language of some (any more than one would have to be). I don't know much about the situation, but I think this kind of umbrella group sounds like a great idea. Also, as someone who knows more about atheism than probably anything else, my sense is very much that it should be included. Atheists should get to participate too! It's about the subject of religion, I assume, and atheism is absolutely a category. The heading is "Religion," right? Not "Religions." Thanks for your work; I've only been on the periphery, and I don't know if you've unresigned, but I would hope you move forward. Best, Mackan79 16:28, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, I just have to say, isn't the whole point of Wikipedia NPOV? How can people of one religion say that people of other religions can't comment, evaluate, criticize, add their input, do anything they would do to any other article? That would make the place entirely POV! I'm fairly new here, but the criticism seems totally anti-Wikipedia. Mackan79 16:32, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Badbill....just wanted to say I support you 100% percent with what you said to IZAK. Hopefully, he will take your words to heart and calm down b/c he can be a bit of a nuisance. MetsFan76 17:27, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Your note[edit]

Hi Bill, thanks for your note. Atheism is a rejection of religion, not in any sense a religion itself. Atheists reject the idea of the sacred, holy, divine, or of anything other-wordly that should be worshipped. I think the listing should definitely be removed from the religion wikiproject. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 19:28, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

No harm done[edit]

No harm done, and thanks for the apology. TheronJ 21:03, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bad Bill[edit]

Hi, I was going to leave you a message about Wikiproject CSBIR, but I also want you to look at the message I left on SlimVirgin's talk page. To further clarify my statement, it's primarily a Western perception that Buddha=God. In fact, in most (if not all) sects of Buddhism, Shakyamuni Buddha is revered, but he is not considered a God. Another way to put it is that enlightenment does not lead to supreme powers that God/s would have.

Fun "fact": Shakyamuni Buddha was poisoned when he mistakenly ate a mushroom from a follower (who mistakenly picked it). The Enlightened One spent his remaining hours fervently praying for the life of the follower (among other things) and expressing concern that the follower was wracked with guilt. More human than God, really.:)NinaEliza (talk contribs count logs email) 00:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Anglicanism COTM[edit]

The Anglicanism Collaboration of the Month has been reactivated! Please consider going to the page to either vote for one of the nominated articles, or nominate one yourself. Thanks! Fishhead64 02:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject British crime[edit]

see discussion regarding image —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MadMax (talkcontribs) 07:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

Wikipedia:WikiProject History of Greece and Wikipedia:WikiProject Greece[edit]

I saw you are the creator of the Wikiproject Greece. Did you know about the existence of the Wikiproject History of Greece (where you are, of course, invited to participate), which already has 29 participants and is active? I think we should have a serious discussion about the future of these two projects. But most importantly: is the project you created actually active? I have opened the discussion here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_History_of_Greece#Wikipedia:WikiProject_Greece. Please, participate. Cheers and Καλά Χριστούγεννα!--Yannismarou 13:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick response. I also think we should discuss the whole matter. A merger seems a plausible possibility; now I do not know if the name will be "Wikiproject Greece" or "Wikiproject History of Greece". This is something will see. After all renaming a project is also possible. The positive thing with the history project is that it has a good basis of members and some sub-pages and projects working (not all of them satisfactory of course - the assessment page could work better). I have left messages to the other two members of the Wikiproject Greece and we will see. Of course, it is a period of holidays, and I am not expecting all the response to be swift! Best!--Yannismarou 15:40, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bad Bill[edit]

Thanks so much for your kind words. Down the road, I might need your help, but it's enough for me to watch everything you do for know - it's a real service to me:). I'm a Mahayana Buddhist, with emphasis on the Lotus Sutra. I'll be happy to explain what this means. I'm also fairly knowledgable in other aspects of Religion as well. Sharing knowledge is a joy to me, so ask any time:).

On that note, you might consider creating some sub-pages for your user page and sticking some of the larger portions of it in them. That way it loads much faster for slower browsers (or browsers behind a firewall). I just learned this recently. Sincerely, NinaNinaEliza (talk contribs logs) 16:09, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

What are you talking about?[edit]

Dry is good. It's an encyclopedia, for heaven's sake! :).NinaEliza (talk contribs logs) 17:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

RE: WikiProject: The Bill[edit]

Hi, thanks for your message regarding WikiProject The Bill. The project is about the UK TV drama The Bill. The aim is to improve and create new pages about The Bill. I've been incredibly busy lately and that is why I haven't really done anything more to it or spent time getting new members etc but hopefully in time it will grow. Thanks very much. ( Just The Q ) 18:48, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

WP Munich[edit]

Can we start a newsletter for the WikiProject? It would be great. Kingjeff 23:48, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

WP Austria[edit]


I've started a pemenent WikiProject Austria page. You can sign up here. Kingjeff 05:17, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Egypt[edit]

Thank you for proposing a WikiProject about Egypt. As I am interested, I added my name on the proposal page.

--Meno25 02:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Religion portal[edit]

Hey, Badbilltucker! You're everywhere! :-) Since you're so active getting things going, what type of "Selected..." rotation would you like to see at Portal:Religion? You can reply there so others can more easily see what's going on. Rfrisbietalk 18:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

I was bored, so I started setting up a randomized design. If you want it changed, let me know. Rfrisbietalk 02:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Please vote[edit]

Could you please vote on this nomination? It's not as popular as other candidates, but it would be really cool if you would give your opinion on it. Thanks and Merry Christmas!--CJ King 20:34, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Agathoclea's RfA[edit]

Mount Hood reflected in Mirror Lake, Oregon.jpg Hello, and thank you for the support on my recent RfA. The final tally was 63/3/2, and I have now been entrusted with the mop. I hope I can live up to your trust, and certainly welcome any and all feedback and am looking forward to further work together on the project. All the best, and thanks again! — Agathoclea 13:09, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

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Simply south 14:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Rating of Spiritualism[edit]

Thanks, Bill, for including Spiritualism in the Religion WikiProject. I've monitored this article for the last year or so and am therefore interested in comments that would help improve it. Please let us know something about the criteria you used to evaluate the article--the best place would be in the designated section Talk:Spiritualism/Comments. Merci --Anthon.Eff 02:27, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Bill, for your comments. Very clear and helpful. Anthon.Eff 06:04, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Sub-Saharan Africa[edit]

I don't know that these regional boards will draw enough participants, but maybe a subsection of the Africa board that is Sub-Saharan Africa? I'd be interested in writing articles about zoonotic diseases and epidemics of this region. I keep looking at these and seeing all sorts of information that should be added. How about Sub-Saharan (less South Africa, from the economic basis)? KP Botany 21:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

About the WikiProject Egypt[edit]

Hi, Badbilltucker. Thank you very much for your effort concerning the WikiProject Egypt. You proposed and activated the project and created its templates. I will start tagging the articles right away. By the way, I moved your name on the project page from no. 6 to no. 1 because you proposed the project.

--Meno25 23:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Taoism[edit]

The article Taoism you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.png, see Talk:Taoism for eventual comments about the article. Good luck in future nominations. Shimeru 23:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Bill[edit]

If you ever need kind words thrown your way, I'm your gal. I'm seeing your name everywhere, and I'm starting to think you're pretty righteous and wonderful:)NinaEliza (talk contribs logs) 05:51, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


Morning Badbilltucker. An anonymous contributor (with variable IP address) has been adding content to Dominica and related topics recently. Although some of it may be appropriate, most of it is baddly written, non encyclopedic and sometimes straight POV. As this article is scheduled for inclusion on the DVD, what can be done about this? Care to have a look into it? Advice/warning doesn't seem to help. Maybe semi protection might be a solution? Thanks Lycaon 09:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Category:Religious leaders[edit]

I read your post and had a quick look at the category. Zoroastrianism seems to be missing. What is your suggestion? Shabdiz 17:14, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I will take a look at it tomorrow and let you know what I think. But I seem to agree with you. Shabdiz 17:25, 27 December 2006 (UTC)


Sir, can you please help me in developing the article Ayyavazhi to the featured article status? (i.e) by reviewing the article, and informing what is needed where, helping improving the tone of texts, suggesstions, etc.. I found that you are intrested in Project:relgion and so i request you for help. Can you please? - Paul 18:06, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I will try my level best in finding references. But the main problem from my side is ' Imperfect English '. So i request you to pay more attention in copy-editing and increasing the tone (high standard english usages) of the article. Also i request you once again for help me until reaching my goal to make it a FA. Also thanks once again sir, for the help and fast reply. - Paul 18:31, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Image on religion template[edit]

Please see Template talk:WPReligion#Graphic on template. - Jmabel | Talk 02:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Setting up an assessment department[edit]

Hi I noticed you have set up an assessment department for 2 wikiprojects recently, I'm a little confused as to everything needed to set this up so would it be possible to do the same for Wikipedia:WikiProject hip hop? - Tutmosis 22:46, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh okay, no problem at all. Thanks for your kind help. - Tutmosis 01:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I would just like to say "Thank you" for setting up the assessment. Very much appreciated and please call if I'm ever of any assistance. - Tutmosis 20:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Help[edit]

At the moment I think Rev. Margolin will help out, though I'm also trying to attract the attention of Diane Vera. In general I think that the Satanism articles (ranging from the religions, to books, to people) do need more exact attention by people who are interested. A subproject sounds fine as long as there are people concentrated on it and an administrative body to help resolve conflicts (as it is very controversial). I will wait though as I'm new to all of this as I said.WerewolfSatanist 02:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again. I proposed the project and mentioned it on the main Satanism talk pages. Hunting up support. If you know anybody, please refer them. We need all the help we can get. WerewolfSatanist 00:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

On it[edit]

Like white on rice:). Didn't even finish reading the message. In the future, you can just say "do it":).NinaEliza 16:06, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

If you need help with Hip Hop, I can help and I know who to see. Specifically, My "Wiki-daddy". Also, your talk page is very long for folks with slow browsers. Gently, consider archiving some portion. It doesn't bury anything - people can always resurrect and old discussion:).NinaEliza 16:13, 28 December 2006 (UTC)


In case you hadn't noticed, Liquid! has been proposed for deletion. NickelShoe (Talk) 17:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, there's also Lee Loughridge. NickelShoe (Talk) 20:52, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Portal Peer Review[edit]

Hey, Badbilltucker! Check out the new Wikipedia:Portal peer review! You may want to request a portal to be reviewed or review some portals there! sd31415 (sign here) 17:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

RE: Appreciation week[edit]

I'm taking Wikipedia a bit easy at the moment, so won't be able to commit to this any longer. Please feel free to take it forward; I still love the idea. Regards, —Celestianpower háblame 19:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

That article[edit]

Is beautiful - holy schmoley.

I've got two other irons in the fire that are burning up right now, but I did a section of it and will come back to it as I can. I think once every section is worked on we should set it up for peer review, then straight to FA review, if possible. If not, then GA at least. It should be on the main page for sure:).NinaNina Odell 05:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Request for clarification[edit]

Hi there. With regards to Snopake, I'm sure/know that she would be really happy if she recieved the reward (OBF), and she is very flattered that you thuoght of her. Her rank, however, was simply chosen for her username, and isn't a reflection of any actual rank that she was promoted to.

Hope that clears up somethings, but if not, please leave me more messages. I love that orange banner ;)

Thε Halo Θ 11:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Appreciation week?[edit]

What exactly is appreciation week? Is it a mass award giving day? ;-) Why not just have a banner on the main page that says something like:

Today, on January 15, 2007, Wikipedia celebrates it's 6th aniversary of "making the internet not suck". It would like to thank all it's editors for the contributions they have made.

I think that would be enough, but perhaps I should know more about this; could you please explain it to me? | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 17:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

By "mass awards" I meant "mass awarding"; sorry. I thought it was giving almost everyone an award. I don't think the idea is very practical, but I'll give out awards if I see any good contributers. Thanks for explaining. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 17:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Field Marshal Snopake, OFB[edit]

Hi Badbilltucker,
I don't know what to say. I really am lost for words. I guess what I am mostly feeling is thank you. Thank you so much. For the barnstar, the promotion, and making me the Cat Project's honorary commander-in-chief. I cannot believe this, it was the last thing I ever expected. I guess I just really believed in the Cat Project, and felt very passionately about it, but I really don't think I deserved all this...And when you look at the project now, it's amazing - a lot of that is down to you. In fact, I feel really humbled just looking at all the projects you belong to, and all the work you do. Really, I'm so grateful for all that you've done for me (although I don't think that I can ever return as Sergeant Snopake; I just wouldn't feel comfortable editing). Thank you so much, Sergeant Snopake 17:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Under the circumstances, no one could reasonably expect you to return after what happened, and I'm frankly surprised you still remembered your password to log on. I know I probably wouldn't have. And, yeah, I really didn't think that there would be much of a chance of anyone returning knowing that they might have your new title as their screen name. That doesn't mean that the recognition isn't deserved though. It is. Like I said, I only wish we had had the award to give you while you were still active. Badbilltucker 18:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)


Hey, no problem I'd be glad to help you and I am sure that other would too. Just tell us what to do? Your work is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Vseferović 21:50, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok, and invite.[edit]

OK, I get that. Lot of other people think that though. :)

On another note, might I invite you to join WP:LGBT? We've got 19 unassessed articles, and you're a member of so many others I thought you might like to complete the set, as it were. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 20:25, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I can do what I can to correct that, and will accept the offer to join. Badbilltucker 20:32, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm on that like white on rice, Tucker. (Tucker was the name of one of my more famous kittens in childhood, so Tucker you shall be:) ).Nina Odell 20:55, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Egypt template[edit]

Hi, Badbilltucker. Can you please modify the template of WikiProject Egypt: {{WikiProject Egypt}} by adding a visible importance parameter? So that the template is like the template {{Ethnic groups}} of WikiProject Ethnic groups which you can see at Talk:Egyptians. This will help us find the importance of any article quickly without having to see the code of the page. Thank you.

--Meno25 21:35, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Wow! I am impressed. Thank you for your quick response and valuable contributions.
--Meno25 22:00, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


Drawing-Gay flag.png

Hi, Badbilltucker/Archive, welcome to WikiProject LGBT Studies!

We are a growing community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles regarding lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) and intersex people. LGBT Studies covers people, culture, history, and related subjects concerning sexual identity and gender identity - this covers a lot of ground and your help is appreciated! Some points that may be helpful:

  • Our main aim is to help improve articles, so if someone seeks help, please try to assist if you are able. Likewise feel free to ask for help, advice or clarification.
  • Many important discussions take place on the project's main discussion page; it is highly recommended that you watchlist it.
  • If you have another language besides English, please consider adding yourself to our translation section, to help us improve our foreign LGBT topics.
  • The project has several ongoing and developing activities, such as article quality assessment, peer review and a project-wide article collaboration, all of which you are welcome to take part in. We also have a unique program to improve our lower quality articles, Jumpaclass, so please consider signing up there.
  • If you're going to stay awhile, please create a square in our project quilt! You can put anything you want in it.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again - Welcome!

You probably don't need this, but what the hey. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 21:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)


Needs serious work. More importantly, a copy-edit of the neetham revealed that probably most, if not all, the children articles need to be copy-edited before the parent can truly get up to speed. It's beautiful work though - I'm currently bored with my other projects and might just pass them along to others. Nina Odell 02:00, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Re. Wikiproject Western Asia[edit]

Qatar already has its own, apparently abandoned, though. See [4].martianlostinspace 14:25, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

You might want to run this past the listed members there.martianlostinspace 14:26, 2 January 2007 (UTC)


I am sorry about this. Never was sure what that beef was about, but on behalf of the project regret it was ever started. See you around. - crz crztalk 19:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Ayyavazhi article[edit]

Sir, other than the grammatical corrections, What sort of improvements I have to do in the article? Please say if there is any such things. I will do my level best to do so. Thanks. - Paul 18:28, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Also thanks for quick reply. - Paul 18:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

The Fauna Barnstar[edit]

Thank you so much for the lovely barnstar! Really, I love working on wikipedia--but that's the problem. The rest of my life has become so much more productive since I stopped living here. I figure if everyone on earth gave as much of 2 years of their lives to WP as I did, then it would be the most totally amazing web site in the universe--and no fundraising efforts could ever keep up with the demand for disk space. Anyway, it was a pleasant surprise when I just logged in briefly. Thanks again, and more power to you. Elf | Talk 21:17, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that was effulgent![edit]

Thank you very much for the confidence you place in me. I don't actually know all that much about either Islam or Taoism, although I am learning very quickly. I do know something about using sources and reflecting what they say, which is a useful skill in WP, I hope. So I'll try to bring that into the Religion project.

I would like to send you the greetings of the season and will do so in this format, which I got sent and might as well pass on. (Perhaps a warning of what the WikiprojectReligion might become.)

"I wanted to send season's greetings to everyone, but it is so difficult in today's world to know exactly what to say without offending someone. So I met with my solicitor yesterday, and on her advice I wish to say the following:

"Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral celebration of the winter/summer solstice holiday, practiced with the most enjoyable traditions of religious persuasion or secular practices of your choice with respect to the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all.

"I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2007, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make England great (not to imply that it is necessarily greater than any other country) and without regard to the race, creed, colour, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee.

"By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms: This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for himself or others and is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.

"Disclaimer: No trees were harmed in the sending of this message; however, a significant number of electrons were slightly inconvenienced." Itsmejudith 17:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue VII - December 2006[edit]

The January 2007 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.

This is an automated delivery by grafikbot 19:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity[edit]

I see from my recent changes patrol that you have created this project. It looks like a great start. I left comments on the project discussion page. Edison 20:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Tucker[edit]

I removed your talk page from my watchlist and regret it now. I did a massive copy-edit of Neetham and wanted to see what you thought before I went forward. I still don't get from the language if this is religion or history, or both. I may have perhaps made things a bit too current.

I want to let you in on some thoughts I'm having. I basically need your advice. I want to start two new Wikiprojects. Wikiproject Mental Health and Wikiproject alternative sexuality. I've got no clue how to start either one, but I have a vision for both. Yours truly, Nina Odell 17:49, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Ayyavazhi removal[edit]

Sir, why you removed Ayyavazhi from here? The sentence (you mentioned) is changed and added appropriate citations. If you find any thing (mistakes) like this please ask I will add appropriate citations using the sources with me. But please add the article there in the Good article cadidates page. Thanks - Paul 18:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry very much sir. I think you yourself felt uncomfortable to place the article there for some unknown reason. Also I was not knowledgable of such things you notted untill. Sorry and Thanks.
Also one request too. While discussing with me please use simple english that I can understand quicky since I am a non-native speaker to English and not so much knowledgable with the language usages. Thanks and also Sorry for all my mis-understandings. Thank you very much also for your help edits. - Paul 19:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
No matter sir. Also, You proceed on your own way making it to FA status. Since you are much more experinced than me, you know what to do. And ask me for any citations and for any doubts about the texts in the article. Thanks once again. - Paul 19:48, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

B9 hummingbird hovering[edit]

Hello I would like some assistance in charting a commonality between transignification, transubstantiation and ganachakra and appropriate deixes and editing. May I have some assistance with an article that I would very much like to initiate on "saccidananda or "sat-cit-ananda". I have asked Ekajati for some assistance as well as the German Wiki crew to assist with a translation of their comparable page ( so we English Wikikin are not recreating the wheel! I would also appreciate peer review and collaboration of trance.

Wheels within wheels for the glory of the Ophanim Thanking you in anticipation Namaste in agape and walking my talk in beauty B9_hummingbird_hovering [B9_hummingbird_hovering] 17:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)


Hi, tucker. I would like to ask you to design a portal for Egypt. We now has 1 FA, 1 A Class and 3 GA articles within the scope of WikiProject Egypt and as you know I don't have enough experience to design it myself. Thank you.

--Meno25 17:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Changes in Ayyavazhi[edit]

Sir, I re-edited the section Inclusiveness and exclusivity in Ayyavazhi article, since I started a new article on that section as Inclusiveness and exclusivity in Ayyavazhi. Do this re-formation now, affects your works on that article any way? If so you change back the section to the previous level.

Also Iam on a trip to Chennai and so I may not repond quick to the articles and the discussions for two or three days. Thanks - Paul 19:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Blue Network[edit]

Pursuant to your suggestion, I have added a bibliography to Blue Network, and would like your further thoughts regarding same. Eric O. Costello 19:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

As this seems to be your area...[edit]

Category:Unassessed LGBT articles could do with some assessing. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 20:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

A lone voice in the wilderness...[edit]

Thanks for your note; I've seen your posts and appreciated them. I continue to be amazed at some people's reasoning skills, if they can even be called that ... Ugh! Anyway, thanks for your efforts. :-) Keesiewonder 00:15, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

English mediaeval monasteries[edit]

I've noticed that you've been adding ratings to the articles on certain English mediaeval monastic sites and related topics as part of the wiki Catholicism project. Many of your ratings seem to me rather arbitrary and to be honest I would strongly question whether your giving such ratings is useful at all; it would be more constructive to point out where an article is, in your opinion, weak (as you did with the Beaulieu Abbey article). The speed at which you are giving these ratings also gives great cause for concern. Soph 01:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Article assessments[edit]

Hi Badbilltucker.

I'm a member of WikiProject Abortion, and I've been working on article assessments. I've never assessed articles before, and I'm not sure I'm doing it right. I wonder if you could take a look at a few of the articles I've assessed and tell me if you think I'm way off base. Here are a handful of my attempts: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 I would greatly appreciate any pointers you can share. Thanks in advance. -GTBacchus(talk) 08:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Please stop what I am perceiving as unjustified attacks[edit]

Whether you intend them or not, I am very troubled by an ongoing focus on me, rather than the issue, on the Hinduism Wikiproject page. If you're concerned about my conduct, let's discuss it in a productive way - but making comments like 'notice the ongoing behavior', etc. are decidely unproductive and I believe entirely unwarranted. Thank you for your consideration. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 18:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


Hello - I wanted to point out that Armenians are not Eastern Orthodox, they are Oriental Orthodox. Please remove the tags you added to the talk pages of Armenian Monasteries as they do not belong there. Thanks, --RaffiKojian 19:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

No worries. There is no listing that is appropriate on that page. There should be a separate listing of either the Armenian Church or the umbrella Oriental churches which have an article. In any case, these monasteries all fall neatly in the realm of wikiproject Armenia - so they can always get that tag if need be. --RaffiKojian 05:14, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Failure to answer questions?[edit]

Hi Badbilltucker. Perhaps I am missing something. It seems to me that Ryan has given direct answers to your questions. Could you, for my benefit, state (in question form) exactly the question that you believe Ryan did not answer? Thanks. --BostonMA talk 19:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


Hi! Can you help remove the 'unknown importance' tag from the Lutheranism article? I guess I could probably do it too ... but will give you the option first ... Thanks! Keesiewonder 11:08, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


I am just curious, but why are pushing so much for the creation of so many WikiProjects? They should be created by people who are knowledgeable about the subject and will be able to devote time to them - otherwise they will simply be lame ducks with a a bunch of tags around; which will be worse than not having the WP in the first place since its desolate state will discourage new users from joining in - something that won't happen with quality and functioning WPs. WikiProjects are not a trophy collection u know :)) Baristarim 14:40, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok, no problems :) I agree that every article should be covered somehow.. Baristarim 14:53, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Left Hand Path[edit]

Image wise, the Inverted Pentagram. Its a nonspecific and commonly used in the LHP.

Is there a difference between "work group" and "task force?" They both sound good to me really. Task force kind of suggests a specific set of goals. I guess task force. WerewolfSatanist 05:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

So not to be a pain, but how long before we have our own page to call our own and properly bring the Devil to Wiki?WerewolfSatanist 23:24, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

The Big Man requests a better explanation of the distinction between "task force" and "work group." Sorry to bother you still. Its just weird to actually affect change like this WerewolfSatanist 23:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Work Group. Work group implies more of a working together kind of feeling (and also a little more permenance). Thanks again. If I wasn't lazy I'd do it myself. WerewolfSatanist 00:15, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

General about WP:COUNCIL and WP:TIS[edit]

If i were to join the council, what would i be expected to do? Or would it just be where i could show that i assisted in Transport in Scotland. Remember i originally had a sdifferent proposals but due misunderstangs due to me this expanded into the present project. I still haven't got round to sorting the page out yet. When i have more free time, i will follow the guide and see what happens.

I have also tried on the talk page to WP:SCOTLAND, at least a while back, and got no response. What do you think i should do? Should i try again? Simply south 17:40, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I think i mentioned that i needed help with the project and should it be a part of WP:SCOTLAND, either that or related. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scotland#Wikiproject.
I'll join the council to show that i assisted with WP:TIS. I've also raised a question on criteria towards lists, templates and categories, amongst others on the council talk page. Simply south 17:55, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I've got some urgent univesity work to do and so that is why i am trying to take this break. Also, do you have any ideas how lists, templates and categories could be rated? Simply south 18:28, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the above link. Anyway i'll get back to you, i just need to expand out from railways right now first. Maybe i should have sub-cats for different modes of transport. I think i will wait a while longer before assessment on the project and when i can focus on it. Thanks. Simply south 18:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Expert attention on Religion[edit]

Hey, thanks for your edit to Category:Pages needing expert attention from Religion experts. Turns out the template {{Expert-subject-cat}} already takes care of adding the category to it. No need to do it manually. :) --Brad Beattie (talk) 00:55, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Mariko Yashida and Shintoism[edit]

Hi, you've recently added the Wikiproject Shinto banner to Talk:Mariko Yashida. I'm not sure if it was an automated edit, but this article is about a comic book character. The article makes no mention of anything having to do with Shintoism, and from my personal memory of the comics she was in, I don't believe she had anything to do with Shintoism. Brad T. Cordeiro 22:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)


See [5]. Thanks for telling us that. Also, please post at Wikipedia talk:Did you know, not Template talk:Did you know. Some people mix them up, but WPT:DYK is the discussion page, adn T:DYKT is the suggestions page. Thanks. Nishkid64 00:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


I too loved the Foundation trilogy and was excited enough when I first discovered Wikipedia to compare it to the Encyclopedia Galactica (although my enthusiasm has fallen off a bit as I realized Wikipedia's limitations). I was just so pleased to discover I had this "ultimate archive" dream (and related to Wikipedia) in common with someone else that I felt obligated to share! Um, now you know. —vivacissamamente 11:06, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


Hi there,

Looking through our Archives I saw that you took an interest in the Adopt-a-user program during its formation and development. Well this is just a quick message to tell you the program is well and truly lifted off, with over 200 users involved in the program, 50+ active Adopters and approx. 150 Adoptees, and always expanding. If your still interested please pop by WP:ADOPT, have a look around and ask any questions you want on our talk page. Look forward to seeing you there. Cheers Lethaniol 15:36, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

One Correction[edit]

Sir, one correction; It was noted that, Ayyavazhi was founded by Ayya Vaikundar in 19th century South India. ==> Ayyavazhi was not founded by Vaikundar. Ayyavazhi rise-up as a religion(developed) after the period of Vaikundar only based on his teachings, but not initially founded by him. If you have anny suggestion please tell. Thanks - Paul 19:05, 13 January 2007 (UTC)


I am really messing up Template:WikiProject Iran, can you help fix it like you did for our Burmese one? Thank you so much! Chris 04:12, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy King Day[edit]

"The greatness of a community is most accurately measured by the compassionate actions of its members, ... a heart of grace and a soul generated by love." - Coretta Scott King (attributed)


On this 6th anniversary of the founding of Wikipedia, I am awarding you "My Barn". You are one the Wikipedians that have made the most exemplary contributions to my "home" areas of Wikipedia in the past year. Congratulations! Royalbroil T : C 17:18, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes atheism is immune[edit]

ttp:// I would like to word it right but can not because there is no way to not be offensive I can't think of how. Please help. Vote to keep the article. There are articles on Chrisitian, Judaism and Islam but why not atheism? Fair is Fair. LoveMonkey 06:49, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Cocktails[edit]

Hello. As a person interested in WikiProject Cocktails, you may be interested to know that a name change is being considered from Cocktails to Mixed Drinks. Please add your opinions to the discussion and vote. Also, check out the recent changes to the WikiProject area. Consider becoming an active Participant. Thanks! --Willscrlt 08:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello again. As someone who seems pretty familiar with WikiProject proceedings and Wikipedia in general, I was wondering what your view is on ending the renaming discussion of this project early. I was the silly person who set such a long term for voting (expecting a bit bigger response and a lot more conflict). However, looking at the edit histories of all the past and present members of the Project, I think all but two members have voted who are likely to vote (the other two seem to have gone on hiatus, but at least one supported the change; the other I'm uncertain, but doubt he would object). That would indicate 100% acceptance of the proposal. As I start working in earnest on the assessment of articles, it seems ridiculous to continue creating new categories, templates, etc. under the old name only to have to change them in less than half a month. As a result, some have been named using the new name (depending on how optimistic I feel and how difficult it would be to rename the thing later), and some still have the old. Would there likely be any negative fallout from ending the discussion and voting early, even though we have not yet met the early ending criteria I arbitrarily set? We obviously have consensus among those most likely to care or even express any opinion. And waiting makes much more work down the line. I'd appreciate your feedback, here or on my talk page, whichever is more convenient for you. Thanks. --Willscrlt (Talk·Cntrb) 03:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for responding and the advice. I will do it then whenever I feel ready to tackle the challenge. :-) Probably within the next 48 hours. --Willscrlt (Talk·Cntrb) 14:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Temples and shrines in Kyoto[edit]

Hiya. Regarding your decision to split the Category:Temples and shrines of Kyoto - I'm not particularly opposed to the move, I would just like to mention a few points. (1) I originally created the category with the phrasing "temples and shrines" with the intention that "Buddhist temples and Shinto shrines" was implied. Now that they are split, why not go for "Buddhist temples in Kyoto" or "Temples in Kyoto" and "Shinto shrines in Kyoto" or "Shrines in Kyoto"? That is to say, since all temples (寺) are Buddhist and all shrines (神社) are Shinto, why not shrink down the category names? (2) There is a degree of syncretism in Japanese religion, and while it is fairly simple to label all -dera, -ji, and -in places as Buddhist and all -jinja and -jingu places as Shinto, is this split really 100% accurate? Do these places not contain elements of both faith systems? As I said, I don't really have a problem with this move, I just want to make sure that we've considered all the angles and done what's ultimately best organizationally. Thoughts? LordAmeth 20:51, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


Sir, I've made some additions to the Teachings section in Ayyavazhi article. Please take a look.

Also, One thing I wish to remain once again, (perhaps you might not have noticed, which I told earlier)

"one correction; It was noted in the article that, Ayyavazhi was founded by Ayya Vaikundar in 19th century South India. ==> Ayyavazhi was not founded by Vaikundar. Ayyavazhi rise-up as a religion(developed) after the period of Vaikundar only based on his teachings, but not initially founded by him."

Sir if any suggestion please tell. Also, Thanks for all help edits. - Paul 00:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Okey, Sir. Sorry and Thanks very much for all helps and quick response. - Paul 00:46, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

New WP:PARA page[edit]

Hey. I'd like to delete this page you created recently; the very fact that we have those categories (and a link to them in our navbox) makes this redundant. --InShaneee 01:29, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Crap alive! I didn't know that was even possible! Consider my objections withdrawn with all haste; that's just awesome (however, I'm still not sure that the 'adding articles to that page' goal needs to be there; that's a pretty mechanical task that can be done using the handy-dandy assessment log). --InShaneee 01:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Don't suppose I could convince you to volenteer for the job? :) --InShaneee 02:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Rightous! One other thing though: the page seems a bit sparse. According to the Assessment page, the project includes exactly 600 articles at present. Do you think it's just because a lot are missing tags? --InShaneee 02:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Alright, cool. Just be careful; Quang khem sounds like an actual animal (and thus not under our scope), and creatures that are purely mythological in nature fall under the Mythology project's scope. --InShaneee 02:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and you can find a list of all current Paranormal articles that may be missing Cats here. --InShaneee 02:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
That's dangerous territory, though, do be careful. Many 'mythological' creatures don't qualify as Cryptids (as no one seems to be claiming that they were or ever real, and many would argue that once a creature is confirmed as 'real', it no longer qualifies as a Cryptid (and thus wouldn't be under our scope, anyway). --InShaneee 02:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)