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Thank you very much. So where would I load the photos and facts about them at? Above their photos says New Hampshire related. Did someone add that? Because it was actually named after Concord, Mass. They have received the many things from the ship.Banditia (talk) 18:47, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Put the pictures on Commons along with the facts known about them. This information can go in the description section when you upload. Somebody had the Concord down as being related to New Hampshire for some reason, if there isn't a valid one it can be deleted. Don't forget the category relates to the article not the photos. When you post the pictures to Commons, see what categories I've used on English and McCool and use the same ones, that will keep them together. NtheP (talk) 18:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for all your help.  I really do appreciate it.  No it was not related
to New Hampshire.  Sadly enough it is showing up that way on Viswiki.  The USS 

CONCORD CL-10 was named after Concord, Mass. Some want to believe it is any Concord though. Have a great afternoon, will try better. Let me know if I am doing something else.


Banditia (talk) 19:00, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure it will all turn out right. It's evening here (I'm English) so I'll check into Commons tomorrow to see what we have to work with. Cheers. NtheP (talk) 19:20, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
Love the 1936 newspaper cutting of the Battenberg Cup crew. I've added that image to the Battenberg Cup article. NtheP (talk) 15:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much, have been busy but would really love to get more information out there.


Regarding the deletion request on one of the photos at Commons. Do you have the full page from the newspaper or magazine it came from? The best thing is if we have the name of the periodical it was in. NtheP (talk) 20:27, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I do not. It was given to me out of a sailor'S log album who was on the USS CONCORD CL-10 during my research on finding people who served with grandfather. He is still alive, but not sure he would know the newspaper, although he is from Philadelphia. Have others and they were from there and CA but can only assume. I listed as newspaper article under sports awards and I gave credit as much as possible with the photo of the clippings. Did I mess something up again? Banditia (talk) 21:53, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Not really, it's just that we need to establish with more certainty that the photo is in the public domain. I'm pretty certain it is due to it's age and original date of publication in the US but the name of the publication would really help to nail it. If only someone hadn't cropped the bottom of the page we would probably have the name :-) NtheP (talk) 07:03, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


Added a piece from Richard Byrd. On the right side of what is there is a couple of sentences and then a list of the soldiers lost. I could not figure out how to get them to the right and listed as he did. One side is what he had to say and the right side was a memoruim sentence and then the list. I would appreciate any help you may have. Thank you so much.Banditia (talk) 03:30, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok stage 1) where did you get the text of the letter from Byrd from? Is it a document you have in your possession? NtheP (talk) 07:07, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I have the document in my possession. Also the guy who took the photos for the sports awards has public domain photos in the library archives if that helps any there. Thank youBanditia (talk) 09:39, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Brilliant. Stage 2 for Byrd. Scan the document and upload it. It'll need some thought on what the permission is, I'll have a think about that. If the sports photos are definitely public domain they can be uploaded using permission PD-US.

Hello. Thank you for all your help. Wish some could explain things because I found the how to more Well I uploaded the paper and edited the men to 24 again. I uploaded more photos last night, will try to get more up. Would like to know how to reference so I can add to main USS CONCORD CL-10 page.Banditia (talk) 22:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010[edit]

Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article USS Concord (CL-10), please cite a reliable source for the content of your edit. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. Take a look at Wikipedia:Citing sources for information about how to cite sources and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. (talk) 03:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Will try to figure more of this out this evening. There are 24 men who perished. I have the list and the small letter which came from Richard Byrd to the Commanding Officer, and the soldiers of the USS CONCORD. All information sourced or not on the internet is typed by a human, would love to see this corrected. The other half of the letter called Special Navy Mission is the list of the men. Just could not figure out how to get it there. Thank you for your help.Banditia (talk) 09:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we do not allow what you are attempting. The listing of names such as you are attempting goes completely against WP:NOTMEMORIAL. You need to stop this behavior at once. -MBK004 05:43, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
That's not to say that the letter can't be displayed as an image, just that the article doesn't turn into a memorial as mentioned. NtheP (talk) 07:56, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Well thank you for letting me know. I am sure I still have alot more to read and learn without just jumping in, but in the same aspect your attitude as to my behavior is childish. You could have typed everything else without that, and I would have understood. I think you are the one that needs to not take it so personal. When we are new I am sure no one reads and understands it all. Please think about that. It is not an owned site, it is all of the world trying to help if I understood that right. Also, there is even proof that there was 24 men whom died in that explosion, so if it is verified why do you put 22? Have a good day.Banditia (talk) 09:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

The image is in and refernces the fact that 24 men died in the mission during September-November 1943. As there is no attempt to list their names, I don't think there is anything contrary to WP:NOTMEMORIAL. NtheP (talk) 10:43, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I had typed up a Special Navy Mission area and listed their names with the article beside it. Now I understand, just didn't like the attitude in the typing of response. I am in no way trying to hurt anyone. Just have a wealth of knowledge and would like to share it. Heard about this site and here I am. It says jump in and by george I have. I think some could be more helpful instead of short. Understand no memorial list but why can't the names be part of article. Banditia (talk) 20:26, 6 October 2010 (UTC) Banditia (talk) 20:28, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)It's all to do with WP:NOTMEMORIAL, this case it's only 24 names but there have been ridiculous efforts e.g. attempting to put all the names of men killed at Pearl Harbor in an article, so where to draw the line - in the end the decision was zero. Please don't get too offended by some of the messages, most of them are templates so the wording is pre-defined and yes they can sound a bit short but they are designed to be succinct rather. Admittedly and I've done this before now this can lead to it looking like a case of biting the newcomer which isn't intended but sometimes just happens. You've got access to a great range of information but we just need to make sure it's managed correctly, which brings me back to the pictures from the magazine of the rowing crew - any luck in identifying the publication? other pages cut from the same mag which would help to identify it. Like I said I'm pretty sure it's covered by {{pd:us}} but without the name changing the attribution on Commons would be a recipe for disaster. NtheP (talk) 20:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Wow read messages first then went to page. Thank you for putting article up. GREATLY APPRECIATEDBanditia (talk) 20:32, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

no worries. Out of interest where did you get the Byrd letter from? NtheP (talk) 20:37, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know about the template, felt like I had been scolded. I do have alot of things, but jumping in has seem to caused much. Trying to read tutorials, but lost there. Still trying to find out about papers. I got the letter from CEM Kitchen's log album and CEM McCool. They were on the USS CONCORD CL-10 during this time. Kitchen passed in the 90's. Have alot of his things. There is another sailor whom has it as well, but the copy he sent is pretty dark. I just want to say thank you for all your kindess and knowledge.Banditia (talk) 20:45, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if you noticed, but I do have an article with the newspaper name of the historic gun being removed that shot the last shot. Thought maybe it could go next to the sentence stating that. Thank youBanditia (talk) 22:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't think there will be a problem with that photo, it's correctly attributed (I think) but I'm loathe to lose the rowing crew photo all for lack of a title. It's the same with the basketball team, obviously the same magazine but no title becasue of the way the page has bee cropped. Interestingly I found out that O A Tunnell did a lot of work for the Navy, so I think there is a chance it's a Navy publication in which case public domain is easily established. One page showing the title will be enough. NtheP (talk) 22:28, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I am trying to find something on the internet to help. Yes he was a highly used photographer and well know for panoramic views. Trying to take picture of a Battenburg Cup watch 1935 you can use in your article if you would like. I OWN IT....LOL. Banditia (talk) 22:40, 6 October 2010 (UTC) :Hello. Wanted to let you know I uploaded the Battenburg Cup watch. Nothing on articles yet. Most newspapers you call are not sure where to look, if at all.Banditia (talk) 23:04, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure is of the crew of the Concord. there aren't enough people in the photo for one, and there are a lot of women in that picture. Now I know the USN is emancipated but I don't think it was then :-) You might want to check your sources. Is it perhaps the staff of the building in the background?
Thanks for keeping on plugging for the source of the magazine pages NtheP (talk) 15:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Hello. In the album it just says part of the Concord Crew. So not sure other than that, if its a class, training, etc. Still trying on articles and you are welcome.Banditia (talk) 02:11, 9 October 2010 (UTC)