User talk:Bardhylius

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Rubén

No need to shout! I undid your change about Ruben because you didn't enter any source for that information. If you have a source, please renter the information with the source. Thanks. --ClaudioMB 20:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Look, there is no need to call anyone stupid, I'm not here to fight anyone. I've changed what you enter only because you didn't inputed a source. Maybe I should have asked you for the source before changing it. For that, I apologize. And yes, today a I saw the source there, but, I'm letting you reenter the information with that source. The information you enter originally still there only with a , I never deleted it. Please, you don't need to ask anyone to enter a valid sourced information, just do it. I hope this ends peacefully. Thanks. --ClaudioMB 01:53, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

It's OK mate, it's just that I was very surprised how you didn't see the source, I thought someone who edits Barca's articles visits the main article everyday and the source was there. Together we can work more on the article, like fix the Racing de Ferrol thing and probably add all the Primera Division fixtures (you've only added Racing and Bilbao).

Bardhylius 14:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok. I've entered the Ruben's information. By the way, since English is not my first language, I have a question for you. Should the articles use "Loaned out" or "Loaned" is just fine?--ClaudioMB 15:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Loaned out is better because you're referring to a particular club, i.e. Loaned out to Racing de Ferrol but the main status is regarded as "Loaned out".

P.S. Do you think we should put the exact month of transfer instead of just 'Summer'. e.g. Ruben's transfer in August 2007. And what about adding more staff members (Other information) like Ferran Soriano, Marc Ingla etc.? What about the full La Liga fixture?

Bardhylius 16:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

So, I guess I'll change the Loaned status to Loaned out in other articles. There are a few article using the same lay-out as Barcelona. About the transfer, I try to not overwhelm and crowned the article with information. I believe when there is too much information a reader loses what's important. I even reduce the letter size in order to not crowned too much the table. I not quite sure, but I think the month the player was transfered instead of the window will not make much difference. In the end, Summer, July or August means the player will play for that team in the begin of the season and Winter or January will mean the player will play for the 2nd half of the season. Maybe you could open this discussion in the article's talk, to get opinion from others. About staff, if you think they are important staff member and you have the source, please add them. About the fixture, I just didn't have the time to finish. I'll do it later or if you want to enter some. Regards.--ClaudioMB 18:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the good response. You highlighted some good points about my suggestions. Let's keep it that way. I'm now going to get the adequate information to write about board members. By the way, do you use Messenger? An instant-messaging contact would be better. Bardhylius 20:58, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I think the best place to discuss articles' issue is on the articles' talk. That way, other people could input their ideas and any decision we take after a discussion will be archived and later if someone else has questions about why the article is that way it could be found there. Like the one about Loaned or Loaned out, or Summer or month. So, I'd like to invade you to stop talk here and start talk in the articles' talk. By the way, since English is your first language, when you find any possible grammatical improvement on the article, please, fix it. Lots of editors, like myself, are not the best English writers. Regards --ClaudioMB 01:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

No English isn't my first language but I'll do my best to fix any grammatical errors. Bardhylius 14:12, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Manual of Style for club season articles

As you have often contribute to club season articles, I believe this and this are pretty much of your interest.--ClaudioMB 15:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Gerimalaj.jpg)

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Civility

Please do not insult fellow Wikipedians as you did here. We do not permit personal attacks on Wikipedia, because they do not help in building an encyclopaedia. Racial slurs are especially unacceptable, and if I see it again, you will be blocked. Please understand that we need to work together in a civil manner, especially on controversial topics. Thank you, Jitse Niesen (talk) 04:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Prose for FC Barcelona's season

Since you have contribute so much for FC Barcelona 2007-08 season, could you help on this. Regards. --ClaudioMB 07:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Barcelona's 2007-08 star formation

Hi, I've created this sub-page to keep track of the start formation of FC Barcelona in 2007-08. I've done this based on watching the games on TV. If you have time, it'll be good if you could check if I made any mistake. Also, in the time to come, you could enter the formation or check what I'll enter. Thanks in advance. --ClaudioMB 23:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the changes and you're right, I'll improve that page to a table format, that will be much better. I have seen that first team line-up in the official web site, but there is no formation (like 4-3-3) or players' position. Did I miss something else? Also, I'll try write some prose for each section (I did already for overall competition), if you could, when I enter them, check for any mistake or if you could improve them, that would be a great help. Thanks in advance. --ClaudioMB 01:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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Skanderberg

Standard also means the same as "estandarte" in Spanish. I think the wording made sense as it was. Regards, Asterion^talk 16:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. If you're thinking about the word "standard", then you've got me wrong. The article says Scanderbeg uses the standard flag on his return. What is standard? It is null for a user. You can not describe things in that way. I'm sure every user was caught in surprise: "So wich is the standard flag?". That was my idea about it. Wiki is an information center giving you details from scratch. Articles shouldn't be based on the assumption that you already know about the subject. Bardhylius 21:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Bardhylius, Standard also means a type of flag or ensign (i.e. a flag or banner carried by military units). I think this is what this is what meant by the original editor. See its entry in wiktionary for more details. Regards, --Asterion^talk 21:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Then I can humbly say that I didn't know this. I'll revert the edit to its original. Many thanks for the note! Bardhylius 22:03, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Sorry it took me so long to reply. Regards, Asterion^talk 00:40, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi there

--ΛэтєяиuS 13:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Personal remark or attack

I advise you not to do such attacks (accusing me of xenophobia is rather rude). See more at: Wikipedia:Civility --TheFEARgod (Ч) 00:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

How about your accusations against BanatFree at the very same place? See more at Hypocrisy. Bardhylius 17:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

well, those accusations were not personal attacks, like yours, but expressions of being offended. Again, I encourage you to refrain from personal attacks, as that could be strictly sanctioned here. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 22:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't see how calling someone "Serbophobic" isn't personal offense while calling someone "xenophobic" is? What's more, you implied a rather, bossy, attitude towards the user and that is more than a personal attack. Instead I encourage you to stay within the line of civility or I will have to report you to the administrators. Bardhylius 22:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

November 2007

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Bardhylius (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

First of all, I didn't know about the 3RR rule. Second, I was the first to propose that the article is left like it is, and that we discuss any changes before making them. None of the users (theFEARgod and Medule) agreed and they kept changing it, usually without replying in the talk page first. I think you should remove all of our edit blocks, and participate in our discussion so that it is as valid as possible from your point of view as an administrator. The article will be left like it was in the first place (without the "genocide" claim) and as soon as we reach an agreement, we can make the changes we have agreed on. Bardhylius (talk) 22:14, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You have been an editor for over a year. I find it hard to believe that you know nothing of 3RR or of edit waring. Let your block expire and chalk it up to experience. We will see what happens at the article after that. — JodyB _talk 22:26, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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Wow, honestly I am surprised by your reply. I expected it to be more positive. If I knew the rule I would not revert anything because I'd know I would only get myself a block. I would rather search for the interference from an administrator, like I did here. Anyway, let's just wait for the expiry then. Bardhylius (talk) 00:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Greater Albania

I had been encouraged by the improved sense of working together since the protection lifted at Greater Albania. I was a little disturbed by some comments I received this morning (in USA) on my talk page. I have suggested to your fellow editor that he refrain from adding what I felt was POV statements about the persecution of people into this article. You reverted it and I asked him to let it go. But I would also encourage you to better temper your replies to him. Please remember to "attack the edits, not the editor." As always, I am happy to assist in any way possible. Thanks! JodyB _talk 13:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the understanding. I am open to any discussion in the talk page and a successful editing involves resolving disputes first and then making changes to the article. As I said in your talk page, TheFEARgod rushed to change the article several times without even looking for an agreement first. Bardhylius (talk) 13:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

SKËNDERBEU

Edhe unë e kam përshtypjen që artikulli mbi Skënderbeun le shumë për të dëshiruar. Janë shumë burime të cilat nuk janë paraqitur, për të mos thënë që janë deformuar. Unë kam disa libra për Skënderbeun por e keqja është që nuk mund as t'i skanoj e t'i hedh në rrjet sepse kështu mund të shkel të drejtën e autorit e të publikimit. Desha të shtoj gjithashtu se dhe Fan Noli ka bërë një libër shumë të bukur për historinë e Skënderbeut dhe mund të them që libri i Kristo Frashërit është pak a shumë në atë linjë, vetëm që përmban më shumë detaje e referenca që nuk diheshin në kohën e Nolit. Pra mund të përdorësh këtë libër të Nolit. Mirë do ishtë që këta libra të ishin online në variantin anglisht. Ashtu si dhe historitë e Barletit dhe Muzakës etj. Nëse ke nevojë për ndonjë ndihmë të caktuar për referenca ose ndonjë gjë tjetër për historinë e Shqipërisë mund të më drejtohesh kur të duash, pasi kam shumë njohuri dhe libra në këtë drejtim. Gjithë të mirat dhe mirëundjefshim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aigest (talk • contribs) 13:50, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Faleminderit shume per ndihmen tuaj. Mendoj se se pari duhet te krijohet nje grup i caktuar i redaktoreve, e pastaj te hartohet nje plan paraprak per dukjen e pergjithshme te artikullit te heroit tone kombetare. Une po pres qe me shume Shqiptar dhe te huaj tjere qe e njohin historine e tij te kyqen ne diskutim keshtuqe qe te mund te identifikoj personat paraprak qe jane te gatshem per ndihmen e reformimit te artikullit, ashtu siq je paraqitur ti. Numroj ne ndihmen tende dhe shpresoj qe se shpejti ta redaktojme artikullin ashtu si e meriton. Bardhylius (talk) 13:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Në rregull, pa problem, më ke gati. Nuk e di nëse ke dijeni për këtë link [1] Mund të them që informacioni në atë website [2] është përgjithësisht i saktë, pa ekzagjerime dhe mund të përdoret si skelet në shumë artikuj për Shqipërinë. E keqja është se i mungojnë referencat dhe varianti në anglisht (mangësi e autorit, si gjithmonë do dallohemi:)). Edhe njëherë gjithë të mirat. Aigest (talk) 15:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

you have my suport. LONG LIVE INDEPENDENT KOSOVA

when yur solved the status of Vojvodina will start to be solved. All regions under Serbian occupation will be liberated. B-H will have to unite, genocidal Republika Srpska cant exist. And as we can see Serbian propaganda is dying in Montenegro.

LONG LIVE VOJVODINA AND BANAT!!! --BanatFree (talk) 21:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Revert warring advice

Hi,

You have been reverting quite a lot at Greater Albania lately. Please consider this a friendly warning that revert warring, whether slow or fast, is viewed dimly. Please also note that discretionary sanctions can be applied to any editor of Balkans-related articles who fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, expected standards of behaviour or normal editorial process. I am not accusing you of having done so, but please bear in mind that the Balkans is an inflammatory topic and should be treated with care and an extra dose of cool-headedness. Stifle (talk) 15:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, being from Balkans I know very well the sensitive side of discussing about it. That's not the point, the point is that editors come and make changes against the will of others. We have cases of an administrator, abusing his position, saying "But the claim about the Illyrians goes out, period." Instead of being led by facts, sources and references, this user implies orders and limits to what he personally thinks is right and yet can not prove anything at the slightest. If you want to keep users active in Wikipedia, you have to give them a fair share of place to express their opinions. Having dictatorial administrators who decide what they want is a disgrace against the core values of Wikipedia. We should be discussing about the relegation of this user's administrative privileges, and not well known, supported facts which have been changed through personal wishes. Now if you want to keep things this way, then I will back down and leave it up to your conscience. Bardhylius (talk) 16:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

When wilst zou finally declare independence from Serbia??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BanatFree (talk • contribs) 16:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Soon my friend. March 2008 the furthest! Bardhylius (talk) 16:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Kosovo

Hey Bardhylius,

I've seen that you have been active within the Kosovo subject and would thus like to personally invite you to join the Kosovo WikiProject. Cheers. --Prevalis (talk) 00:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

illyrians , ancestors of albanians ?

hey , Bardhylius

I'd like to invite you in the disscusion on wether the illyrians are ancestors of the albanians or not , wich is taking place here : Talk : Kosovo --Bindicapriqi (talk) 13:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Pristina name

Hey
There is a survey gonig on on whether the name of the article Pristina should be changed from the serbian one to the english one
Please vote here
Thanks --Cradel 13:06, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes please comment at Talk:Pristina before making any more controversial and undiiscussed edits. Abc30 (talk) 13:18, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Placenames in Kosovo

Hi Bardhylius. Please, before making or discussing changes to the names used in all Kosovo-related topics, take the time to carefully review our general naming conventions and the specific ones on geographic names, using English & settlements.

In short, they ask us to reflect common English usage (which will often be a local name, or one of them; but not always), because those are the forms our intended readership of English speakers would most easily recognize.

Furhtermore, for the specific purposes of name usage in the English Wikipedia, the language and usages of the population of Kosovo, Serbia or China are simply irrelevant. Local usage only becomes important as a tie-breaker of sorts when there's no common English usage at all. This is not often the case of Kosovo-related articles, for there was a significant amount of literature and printed material on it even before the 1999 war, and there is much, much more since 1999.

For a number of historical reasons, the English language has adopted the Serbian forms. We merely restrict ourselves to reflect this usage. Wikipedia is not a venue to advocate the adoption of the Albanian names by the English language.

Bear in mind that Wikipedia is descriptive, not prescriptive. We cannot declare what an English usage should be or will be, only what it currently is.

The names we use in the English Wikipedia will be modified only if the English usage itself changes to something else, or if our current naming conventions themselves are amended to "reflect local usage instead of English one".

If you want to change the current naming conventions of the English Wikipedia, you're free to propose your desired modifications at the appropriate talk page (for example, at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions :-) However, while the current conventions remain in place, they should be respected: they are an official policy of the English Wikipedia.

If after carefully reading the naming conventions you still have any doubts on this topic, don't hesitate to ask me about it :-) To keep discussions coherent, I would appreciate if you could post any answer here, in your talk page, please. I will see your post :-) Best regards, Ev (talk) 23:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

I realize I must have given the people the wrong impression about my understanding of the "naming policy". Anyway, let's stick to that. It says that articles should be given names which correspond with their popularity and usage. How can we find, please don't tell me Google searches, in a more rational way which one is more appropriate (according to the rule): Pristina or Prishtina. If you have a solution for this, I'm more than happy to listen. Or you can always use the very simple, practical choice - Prishtina. For multiple reasons which I can state again. Bardhylius (talk) 14:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Let me start by apologizing for assuming that you had not reviewed our naming conventions yet. You're saying exactly what our current naming conventions postulate: in the absence of a clear common English usage, the simplest, most practical choice is to use the local form.

There are rational ways to establish if a common English usage exists, and I hinted to it above, when mentioning "a significant amount of literature and printed material". The naming conventions for geographic names describe seven methods to archieve this.

As simple examples, In 2006 I proposed to move Suharekë to Suva Reka, in 2007 Shtime to Štimlje. Today Erudy did a similar thing about Prišshtinaë (to which I would have added book examples from Google Books & Amazon.com).

About the use of diacritics there is no agreement yet among Wikipedia editors, and thus no clearly established guidelines, with the issue being decided on a case by case basis. Some editors see diacritics as just another case where the common English usage criterion applies, while others (like me) think that, given the technical limitations of an "English alphabet" that doesn't have them, the use of diacritics by a minority of highly reliable sources is enough to justify it's use in Wikipedia as "a more perfectionist and educative way to display the name" (just as Britannica does). But the issue is not clear-cut.

Of course, I can imagine that Kosovo's declaration of independence may well induce a change in English usages, with the Serbo-Croatian names being phased out and the Albanian ones adopted. If/when that happens, the English Wikipedia should reflect that change.

In any case, ChrisO has mentioned at least twice diff. & diff. that he would "put together a manual of style for Kosovo placenames along the lines of WP:MOSMAC". This will centralize the discussion and hopefully resolve the issue of all Kosovo placenames.

I hope this helps :-) Sorry about writing such long posts, and, once more, for my pervious assumptions with regards to your understanding of the naming conventions. Again, if you have any doubt on this issue or any other, don't hesitate to ask me. - Best regards, Ev (talk) 18:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks to you and ChrisO for approaching this dispute with special care. I fully agree to the presence of one, strong, foreign administrator to interact with the both parties. I also agree what ChrisO suggested, the establishment of new guidelines which will open the way for all the cities in the new Republic to be interpreted in English, whether that means changing them or keeping them that way. I have my ideas and my points which I will defend eventually, but I agree to wait until ChrisO completes his work so that we can have a good platform to discuss on. Bardhylius (talk) 19:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo and maps

Without taking sides for one side or the other in the Kosovo conflict, I'd just want to add that this really is a non-problem for many articles where you are posting it. There are many articles where a decision over Kosovo is of some importance, but definitely not in the articles on the (United Kingdom, Germany, Australia etc.) I can guarantee you that not one person comes to these articles with the intention of finding Kosovo on the map. I can understand that you feel it is important to have it included and I can understand those who object to its inclusion, but it's really irrelevant to many articles where there's currently a big argument over Kosovo. These disputes should be settled at the discussion over Kosovo, not exported to every second Wikipedia articles as they are at the moment. JdeJ (talk) 14:33, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

It's not a matter of problem. We're not talking about dispute here as these particular countries have all formally recognised Kosovo as independent. Maps are not only important to show where France or any other country stands, but also what they recognise in the world. It is of little importance but it is still natural procedure. I mean, when is Kosovo eventually going to be there? When it's recognised by all the countries in the world? This matter is handled separately and the countries which have had their maps changed, already recognise Kosovo as independent. Bardhylius (talk) 14:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

As I said, I don't mind the maps at all. It's the long discussions about them at talk pages that I find a bit off-mark. JdeJ (talk) 21:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

You are beginning to become annoying on pages such as Talk:Australia. No-one is objecting to you amending the map to show Kosovo's borders if you wish. Just do it and stop badgering others. --Michael Johnson (talk) 21:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Vëlla shqiptar,

Më duhet ndihma juaj rreth seksionit të historisë në artikullin për Kosovën. Shkijet dhe miqtë e tyre po e sfidojnë pa arsye, megjithë referencat që kam ofruar. Ndihmë, ju lutem!--Getoar (talk) 21:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Ku saktesisht? Une jam i rregullt ne artikullin e Kosoves veq qe ne pjesen kryesore edhe te emerave. Natyrisht duhet mu kyc edhe knej ka historia ma shume. Tregom per cka saktesisht eshte tuj u diskutu. Bardhylius (talk) 21:23, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Bardhylius, faleminderit per porosine. "Kosovar" e kam username'in per te mesuar boten qe njerezit qe jetojne ne Kosove quhen Kosovar -- termin qe e perdorim na shqiptaret -- e mos te perdoren disa terma te armiqve tane si "Kosovoian" apo ku ta di une. Migjeni eshte ma shume i lidhur me dialektin geg sesa termin Kosovar, por ndoshta e kam gabim. Me te mira, Kosovar (talk) 07:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Identitet te ri per shqiptaret s'mundet me pas. Ata gjith kane me mbet shqiptar, pervec kur armiqt deshirojne me i nda per me i sundu ma lehte, qysh kane mendu qe nje kohe te gjate. "Kosove" eshte gjithashtu emen sllav, qe do te thote zog i zi. Ri-emertimi i regjionit te Dardanise eshte pjese e fushates se kahmotshme te kolonializmit qe ja ka bere Serbia trojeve te Shqiperise. Ajo qe njihet si "Kosovo" eshte Shqiperi dhe ka nje popullate shqiptare prej me se 92%. Migjen Kelmendi s'pajtohet me kete, keshtuqe muj me than se ka problem ma t'madh se vetem ndarja geg-toske. Ne kete kuptim, mos u lodh fort qysh na thojne t'hujt (Kosovan, Kosovian etj.) sepse krejt jane forma te reja te emrit fillestar serb. Ajo me te cilen duhet me u lodh eshte pranija shqiptare dhe me ate se kuj i takon kjo toke, ne te cilen natyrisht pakicat duhet te respektohen si ne cdo vend te civilizuar te botes. Bardhylius (talk) 14:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

About Vace Zela

Seeing that there was nothing about her in the English wiki I created that sorry excuse for an article using some scattered info.As you probably noticed the article is at least poor and I'd appreciate any additional info.Amenifus (talk) 08:21, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Abaian national football team

I notice that this article (and many others) refers sometimes to Shkodra and sometimes to Shkodër. Is there any reason this shouldn't be made consistent, so they all refer to Shkodër? Otherwise those who aren't familiar with Albanian geography may think that these are two different places. (A similar question applies to some other Albanian place names, such as Tirana/Tiranë, Gjirokastër/Gjirokastra). Colonies Chris (talk) 12:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Well it has to do with the Albanian grammar. We have two ways of saying names, what we call "i/e shquar" and "i/e pa shquar" form. It's hard to explain this in English, a similar case may be a name with(out) "the" prefix. Shkodër is "e pa shquar", or what could be "the Shkoder" in English. Shkodra is "e shquar" or what could be just "Shkodra" in English. I don't know whether the Albanian Wikipedians have reached a conclusion about which form they should use. Cities in Albania template has both but is dominated by "i/e pa shquar" form. Bardhylius (talk) 13:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

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