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Meteorite task force[edit]

I'm not sure if you noticed the task force page (Wikipedia:WikiProject_Geology/Meteorites#Participation) --Tobias1984 (talk) 14:48, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Uh! Sounds good... -- Basilicofresco (msg) 14:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

One for you, perhaps[edit]

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geology/Meteorites#Naming convention question. -Arb. (talk) 03:45, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks to you too! I'll join the discussion asap. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 14:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you![edit]

Gaufre biscuit.jpg This is a great bot; thanks for your work on it. Khazar2 (talk) 17:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
LoL, thanks!! :) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 14:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for your edits by bot in the article of Abhay Bang -- Abhijeet Safai (talk) 09:56, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


Hello Basilicofresco
Are you ok with Tobias' hierarchy
(Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geology/Meteorites#Are irons and stony-irons achondrites?),
or have you a problem with it? Regards --Chris.urs-o (talk) 13:04, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm sorry for the delay, I had no spare time during last weeks. I will rejoin the discussion asap! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 05:32, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Request for Autopatrolled rights[edit]

Why don't you request for autopatrolled permission as you have created more than 60 articles and experienced, and I am sure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. KAS( talk) 07:06, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

I hope the same standards[edit]

The same situation is also Wikipedia article: African nations at the FIFA World Cup. This is why there alright, but not here? There is no need to apply a double standard. This page useful, informative and interesting to ask the football public. Wikipedia does not have the required page. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:51, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mundrabilla (meteorite)[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Removal of spaces by Frescobot[edit]

This is not a biggie but on this edit Frescobot removed some spaces in a table. Why? I think it is quite nice leaving them in place for ease of future editing. Cheers. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 23:35, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

As additional cosmetic fix it removes any useless trailing space at the end of the line. Nevertheless you are right, the spaces I removed could be left in place for ease of future editing. I will leave these spaces (max 1 per row) within tables, thank you for pointing it out. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 06:24, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Another task for Frescobot[edit]

Maybe you could also normalise the casing of common section headers? These are the case I'm fixing semi-automatically:

  • External link → External links
  • External Link → External links
  • External Links → External links
  • See Also → See also
  • Also see → See also
  • Also See → See also
  • Further Reading → Further reading

-- Magioladitis (talk) 21:34, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem, I'm already performing a similar task on I'll ask the brfa for this task. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 05:29, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

How did that go? Is it now done by Frescobot? -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:50, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the very long delay! I read yor message but at the time I was out of the country and later I forgot to answer you. Yes, in the past I made few complete runs. There were no problems, so in 2014 I will run this fix more often. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 14:01, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject Hotels[edit]

Hello, Basilicofresco.

You are invited to join WikiProject Hotels, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of hotels, motels and lodging-related topics.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 13:22, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Sentence spacing[edit]

Please do not do this. Double space between sentences is a perfectly normal typing standard. And there is a good reason for doing it - it makes the text easier to read in edit mode. In any case, it is a matter of editor choice and not something for a bot to change. SpinningSpark 00:20, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:16, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Basilicofresco, please help me to improve my creation the right is "The impala Group of Hotels" help me to redirect "the impala group hotels" to "The Impala Group of Hotels" also i need your support on my bid of the wikimania 2014 bids, hopping to see you in tanzania if arusha Chosen to host the Wikimania Conference. Thanks, Francis kaswahili — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francis Kaswahili (talkcontribs) 13:31, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi thanks for correcting syntax errors — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:20, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Saraiki language[edit]

saraiki dialect is redundant with the Riasti dialect, Shah puri dialect,Multani dialect, Multani language, Thalochi dialect, Thalochi ,Derawali dialect articles. I suggest merging these articles , as the all these are same. And also be Redirected to Saraiki language. Also Jhangvi dialect is dialect of Saraiki. Kindly See these External Links

Meteorite slice image[edit]

I don't have any more information on it that I can find, currently. I took the shot back in 2005 at the Vanderbilt Museum in NY, and I don't know if there was any specific detail on the display plaque. Maybe an email to the Vanderbilt Museum curator would yield something? --Dante Alighieri | Talk 17:07, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

A request[edit]

Hello Basilicofresco,

I would like you to help me expand the Somaliland Armed Forces page [[1]]. The page seems very narrowed--containing small amount of information. In Somaliland, there are many different divisions of the army. For example, they have the Police, and then they have the Special Police Unit, aka [SPU], and then they have the Resistance Unit, aka [RRU], working as a division of the SPU. In terms of the other divisions, they have the Custodial Corps, the Military, and the Navy. And each one of them has smaller divisions. If we could start doing that, I think we can make the page more wider--contain more information.

I am looking forward to work with you.

Thank you very much for your time,

Abdirahim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdirhm (talkcontribs) 08:14, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Yet another task for Frescobot (double brackets to external links)[edit]

Maybe you could also fix [[ bar]] ([bar]) to [ bar] (bar)? This is error #86 of CHECKWIKI. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:44, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Ping. -- Yobot (talk) 06:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the looong delay, I forgot to answer! Well, FrescoBot should already be fixing this problem. However after the message of Bgwhite (see below) I will better check for any problem. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 13:50, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Maybe you could also do something like this one too? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:33, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Sure, good idea. Added! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 16:17, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

A Question[edit]

Hi, I was wandering if you could please help me understand something. I saw that someone marked a page I wrote as an orphan and I don't undersatnad why, since there are links to other pages. I'm asking you because I saw you once entered this page and also added minor changes. The entry is : Rachel Tzvia Back. Thanks!!! 14:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)meitalklachuk14:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meitalklachuk (talkcontribs)

Attention please
Hi! As you can see in the page history I have actually no involvement in the development of the page Rachel Tzvia Back. My only contribution was a small correction as FrescoBot, an automated bot. I suggest you to take a look at Wikipedia:Orphan. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Perfection can get better![edit]

Please check line 22 where the wrong url (//http://http://) is fixed. The leading // should also have been removed. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:13, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Improved! Thank you for the feedback. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 11:50, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Null bot edit?[edit]

What was changed in this edit? The history shows that two characters were removed, but I don't see anything that would affect the display of the page, so I'm a bit confused. – Philosopher Let us reason together. 21:28, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Check line 24 where there is no space between the word "in" and the wikilink. The bot fixed that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:53, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Thanks! – Philosopher Let us reason together. 21:05, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Wait! (please...)[edit]


please give me a minute to finish Alessandro Gogna Page, and the feel free to edit it

Gio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gioalf (talkcontribs) 09:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)


I am done.


Gio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gioalf (talkcontribs) 10:23, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Info on page-Chaudhary Baldev Singh[edit]


I am Nancy, grand daughter of Late Chaudhary Baldev Singh.I just read the article about him updated by you in march.I want to share/contribute on this page on his life,so please get in touch with me on — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Attention please
Hi! As you can see in the page history I have actually no involvement in the development of the page Chaudhary Baldev Singh. My only contribution was a small correction as FrescoBot, an automated bot. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


2005–06 F.C. Porto season

Hi do you know how to make football kits, if so is possible to created the kits for the two pages I have listed. Is it possible to add three kits to the 2005–06 F.C. Porto season page. If you don't won't to, I don't mind.

If you are willing to do it, here are some links to help you

1st kit
2nd kit
3rd kit
2007 Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira

There is a link to help which has the kits of the match:

User talk:Alexgreene87 5 July 2013, 20:22 (UTC)

I never made a football kit, I'm sorry. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Inaccurate edit[edit]

Please see here Your bot should have redirected to Breaking Bad#Spanish-language remake. Does it not understand hyphens? —Justin (koavf)TCM 18:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, it is almost impossible for an automated bot to guess that the word "Remake" has to fixed "Spanish-language remake". The bot did not find any section named "Remake" (or any plausible variation), but was able to find a reference named "remake" (sometimes there are hidden anchors related with the ref names). Anyway I'm going to improve the script in order to reduce this kind of useless edits (the broken link was still broken). Thank you for your feedback. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 09:19, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Trailing whitespace removal[edit]

Why is your bot doing so much trailing whitespace removal? These would be better left alone. Is it approved for this? Dicklyon (talk) 01:36, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

It is an additional cosmetic fix that removes any useless trailing space at the end of the line. Nevertheless it leaves these spaces (max 1 per row) within tables. Where exactly these useless spaces should be better left alone? -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:40, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Leaving them alone in lines you are not otherwise editing prevents big complicated diffs with subtle changes for people to review. There's no benefit in removing trailing white space, and no guideline that says we try to avoid trailing white space. Dicklyon (talk) 16:28, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
I thought a bit about it and you are right. I just want to remove blatant whitespace abuses, so I can raise the maximum number of trailing spaces before a newline, for example from 1 to 4. It will dramatically decrease the number of changes on the diffs. I'm interested too in as readable as possible diffs and just one space before a newline is definitely not a problem. Sorry for the delay, I have been away from Wikipedia for a while and the bot was stopped. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect Joe Parker Image[edit]

Good Day

I was browsing Joe Parker and the Wiki info is all correct however the image displayed is incorrect .Please tell me if you can change the current Joe Parker image with the correct image?



Giannara (talk) 14:09, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi! There are no images of Joe Parker available on Wikimedia Commons. Nevertheless if you have a picture of Joe Parker (taken by you!), then you can upload it here. I will gladly insert your photo within the Joe Parker article. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Spinal muscular atrophy[edit]

Hello I read your edit at wiki page spinal muscular atrophy. I need to learn about sma information. I am living at Turkey. Where is the most developing research institute at world. Help me please I need to find a clinic which I can join for voluntary. Could you send me an email


Thanks for, Regards Uygur KINAY — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:46, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Attention please
Hi! As you can see in the page history I have actually no involvement in the development of the page Spinal muscular atrophy. My only contribution was a small correction as FrescoBot, an automated bot. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:36, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

[Bot issue] internal links conversion on 2013-05-08[edit]

With your edit [8], you changed this:


To this:


Which makes this:


Look like this:


Which in my opinion is not what the original editor intended to show in the article. I took it out anyway because it was already present in the sidebar's Languages section, but perhaps your bot could not do that?

In the original feature request, all examples were for named external links rather than unnamed external links. --Makkachin (talk) 11:54, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

It's not clear what the original editor intended. External links should not normally be used in the body of an article. Placing it unnamed is even worse. So if he intended to use that link as a reference, he had to insert it within a footnote. Nevertheless I will try to improve the script in order to skip cases like this one. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 11:01, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


I dunno why but. I just wanna say hi! I saw your comment in the cantaloupe talk page. And I just wanted to say hi, so ... Hi from Australia :) (talk) 11:40, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi from Italy! :) You're welcome! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:34, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you.[edit]

Bot operator's barnstar.png Bot operator's barnstar
Ciao Basilicofresco; 'Grazie mille' for the helpful cleaning of minor wikilink issues that your bot fixed in the Andy Irvine article yesterday. Your help is very much appreciated; thank you! Face-smile.svg With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk) 15:23, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much! :) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 13:40, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

FrescoBot broke a section link[edit]

With this edit [10], FrescoBot actually broke the section link that was previously working, and from the page history [11] it looks like its been an issue since at least July. - Evad37 [talk] 13:35, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry for the delay in this answer. As soon I read your message I immediately stopped the bot in order to fix the issue. The problem was caused by the new template {{Ndash}}, I was not aware of it. This template looks like an unneeded complication and in my opinion it should be discouraged within section headings and links... Nevertheless I will obviously improve my scripts in order to properly recognize it. Thank you for your feedback. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 13:38, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Frescobot request[edit]

Magioladitis tells me Frescobot fixes cases of an internal link written as an external link ([ ...]) Is this true? I've got it coded up in WP:CHECKWIKI, but the list is 5,500 articles. It almost makes me to not want add it. Bgwhite (talk) 08:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I fix a broad range of internal links written as external links. Recently I was very busy on the work, so during 2013 the bot did not run very often... but 5500 articles sounds strange. I wish to take a look at this list in order to understand if I missing something, where can I find it? Thanks! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 13:24, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Ciao Basilicofresco! You can start by doing this and that until Bgwhite give us the full list. Nice to see you back! -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:21, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

The list can be found at User:Bgwhite/Sandbox. The list only matches links that contain ** and are generated from December's dumpfile.
The list that matches is at User:Bgwhite/Sandbox1. Thank you for the help. Bgwhite (talk) 22:02, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Inside that list I found:

  • recently inserted links (well... younger than 4 months) --> I will run this script more often!
  • links to pages with = ? & { } characters in the title --> these pages are now included
  • broken links like [ Europe] --> now I'm fixing also this problem
  • intentional links to the page editor, eg. You can help by [!&action=edit&section=2 expanding it] --> internal link conversion not possible
  • accidental links to the page editor, eg. <ref>Robertson, Patsy [ AFHRA Factsheet, 49th Fighter Training Squadron] 12/18/2007 (retrieved March 11, 2013)</ref> --> it is not easy to distinguish automatically the intentional links by the accidental ones... I will try to run sometimes a manual script in order to check these links one by one.
  • links to a page history, eg. A list of contributors can be found there at the [ History] --> internal link conversion not possible
  • links to a specific revision, eg. [] --> internal link conversion not possible
  • links with the pipe, eg. [|Prince Frederick William of Prussia] --> now I'm fixing also this problem
  • unspecific links to a Wikipedia website, eg. [ Greek Wikipedia] --> I'm not fixing them because I'm not sure a fix is really needed (eg. [[:el:|Greek Wikipedia]])

Basilicofresco (msg) 15:56, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

  • Thank you. Your work sure saves alot of time for others.
  • It sounds like any searches for problems on my end should include "wiki"... **     That was my initial plan from looking around, but you confirmed it.
  • I have seen cases that contain a slash... [ Europe]
  • These errors will be calculated for various languages including itwiki. All languages except enwiki have a dump file created twice a month. enwiki is once a month. Unfortunately, an itwiki dump file was just created and checkwiki is currently running on it. So, in two weeks itwiki errors will be available. If there is anything I need to change in searching for these errors or any other type of error I can search for you to help you out, please give me a yell. Bgwhite (talk) 06:48, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
FrescoBot is no longer running on the Commons. Do you plan on releasing the source code for FrescoBot sometime in the near future? I wish to be able to help get rid of the annoying invisible characters that have been obstructing my category moves for some time now. If there's any way I can help, please let me know. TeleComNasSprVen (talkcontribs) 22:23, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
The bot is back. ;) I updated also the Commons script and I had test it. It took a while, but now it is running. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 08:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

Erdbeerteller01.jpg Dear BasilicoFresco; Face-smile.svg Very many thanks once again for all the good work that your 'FrescoBot' is carrying out, to keep our encyclopaedia neat and polished! With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk) 14:44, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! :) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 17:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Milk and Alcohol[edit]

I've reverted FrescoBot's edit to Milk and Alcohol as it turned a blue-link into a red-link.
I'm not sure the link needs to be there at all, but thought you should know the bot had broken a link, in case this is indicative of a bigger problem. Arjayay (talk) 16:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Fixed! Thank you for your feedback! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 17:32, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

more links for frescobot[edit]

January dump file was released. Processed the file thru the Checkwiki program.

Internal link written as an external link
Interwiki link written as an external link

Bgwhite (talk) 08:45, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 09:31, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I wonder if you get the chance to run through these lists. We would like, if it possible, to run through this lists once every month. -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi! I'm sorry for the long delay, but I had to test a pretty large set of new substitutions and I had no time for it in January! I almost finished it and I will come back to normal operations very soon. I plan to launch the script every time a new dump is out. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 18:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
A new dump is being "dumped" at the moment. So, there will be a new list by the end of the week. Sure you had to test a large set of new substitutions.... Substitute cold and snow for a Caribbean beach perhaps?  :) Bgwhite (talk) 19:26, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
LOL!! :D It could be a good idea... -- Basilicofresco (msg) 19:35, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

If you are not too sun-burnt when you return, February's list is now out and at the links at the top of this discussion. Bgwhite (talk) 00:47, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

We certainly need your help! There are thousand of pages in Internal link written as an external link and in Interwiki link written as an external link! -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:14, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

The bot is running! ;) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 15:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Yea!! Tell me when you are done. I'll rerun the list again thru the checks and we'll see what the bot didn't fix. What's left usually are outliers the bot won't ever be able to fix and have to be done manually. Magioladitis and I are manually going thru list right now. Well, I'm mostly doing it... you know how those Greeks "work".  :) Bgwhite (talk) 17:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

What happened with these lists? Did the bot fix them? -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:37, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I filtered these articles with the bot and most of them were fixed. Ps. I skipped articles like Macedonian Wikipedia per WP:WAWI. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 01:11, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

I reran the lists to check for errors. They are at the same links above. Could you double check the non "Macedonian Wikipedia" articles. After you say ok, we will do the rest manually. Hopefully we will see a pattern that can be corrected in the bot. However, if it is like most things, it will be something funky that has to be done manually. Any articles left that are correct, such as "Macedonian Wikipedia" articles will be added to the whitelist, so Checkwiki won't flag them again. The whitelists will be found at the AWB and Checkwiki page. Bgwhite (talk) 08:48, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

For instance, I did this change inside a File description. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Good, I'm double checking them right now. Keep in mind that I'm not going to replace also:
  • [], not possible due the page number
  • foobar. [], someone use it like a "footnote" without the footnote. They should be hand converted in order to address for missing References section, special cases etc. Well, I can convert them in footnotes, but see for example 1, 2.
  • {{cite web|url=|..., not possible due the template cite
Basilicofresco (msg) 10:56, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. It is perfectly ok that there will be some that have to be done manually. Unfortunately, we are used to it. On all the other Checkwiki errors, we run our bots and cleanup manually. Bgwhite (talk) 07:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
We've gone over what the bot missed. There were about 150 articles. We've either fixed them manually or added them to the whitelist. Vast majority of the whitelisted articles were ones about other Wikipedia sites, such as German Wikipedia. Vast majority of articles fixed manually were on your list above. Bgwhite (talk) 09:38, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Good, thank you for your help! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:01, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I noticed that Frescobot won't fix things like this one. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:19, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Many pages that need FrescoBot and more here. At about 250 pages altogether. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:17, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

May 2015 lists for

Internal link written as an external link
Interwiki link written as an external link

have been released. Please run your bot to fix them. Thanks in advance. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:50, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

I just updated the #90 and #91 lists with some more files. Please have a look. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 09:34, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Bot altered valid link targets[edit]

Hi, with this edit, FrescoBot changed some valid links from 'one' so that they became 'one' - which is a completely different page. Please would you review recent edits and repair other similar cases. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:29, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

You're right! Thank you for pointing it out, it was a rare and pretty difficult to find exception. Fixed both the bot and the articles with this problem (just one). -- Basilicofresco (msg) 23:32, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

This edit converted a URL to an image in a citation to a wikilink and broke the citation. Imzadi 1979  23:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Image as a citation? Wow. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:07, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Later, it [converted] a link to a copy of a 1926 map hosted on Commons to a wikilink, also breaking the citation. Magioladitis's comments about image citations notwithstanding, the map is a valid citation with a courtesy link to a copy hosted on our servers. Please fix this behavior. Imzadi 1979  07:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
I replied on my talk page. I've nothing against bug fix. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:56, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
*fixing* -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:17, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
Fixed. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 17:53, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Take a look please[edit]

Both of these are bad refs in any case. They are using the pages Monet Mazur and Titanium Metals as refs for themselves, which is WP:CIRCULAR in the highest degree. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:44, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
If you mean I should fix them (obviously I'm not the author of these fake references), well it's possible... but it is a different task and I should write a new script and ask the permission to run it. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 06:59, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


Hi, I undid an edit your frescobot did on the Cousin page a couple months ago. The edit in question turned a link in the "external links" section into a great big graphic.

Was that a bot mistake or was there something wrong with the original post that needs to be fixed? The note on the change cited 'syntax' for the reason. The page is pretty 'graphics heavy' already so the last thing it needs is another graphic, but it's a decent link.

If there was a problem with the syntax, is there a way to fix it while leaving it as a link rather than a big fat picture in the external links section?


Shoeless Ho (talk) 20:29, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Shoeless Ho: It's always a good idea to indicate the edit that you are questioning. I think that you are referring to this edit - if not, please state which. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:31, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Ah yes, apologies. That's the edit. Specifically, the part at the bottom of the page. Shoeless Ho (talk) 16:08, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Uhhh... Fixed! Thank you for your help! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 19:30, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Wanderlust (September 1991) listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wanderlust (September 1991). Since you had some involvement with the Wanderlust (September 1991) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. BDD (talk) 22:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


Why did you get rid of the reference for Vistumbler on Netstumbler's site? — Preceding unsigned comment added by InTheZone (talkcontribs) 08:07, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

I didn't. Take a look at the history. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 15:52, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

FrescoBot makes no visible change[edit]

Like here, here, here, here and here. Always replacing sport into sport in a category of a category. Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 16:38, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi! The bot in these pages removed an invisible LTR character (Left-to-right mark). Some special characters are not allowed within page names but are present (by mistake) in some wikilinks and categories. They cause problems with some tools and create confusion. The LTR invisible character (U+200E) is one of them (the most common). If you copy and paste [[Category:2000 in French sport‎|Uci Road World Championships]] inside this webpage you will be able to see it: there is an invisible character between "sport" and "|Uci". You can also "feel it" backspacing one character at once. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 17:05, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for your nice response! Learned a new thing :) Thank you. Sander.v.Ginkel (talk) 08:50, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Hello mr bot, Im looking for more sources of info on the Solomonari, any chance you can point me in the right direction?

Thank you Sinstar :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:47, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Family Support in the US[edit]

Thanks for visiting my entry on family support; however, the Arc-US was a subcontractor of mine on the national research Center which had a project (first in the nation) to study community integration statewide; I also was US technical lead. In addition, in that particular state study, the Arc was not the family support lead in the state of New Hampshire, and neither was the other family group cited by your revision (yes, surprising to me; so please remove from the journal article by the professor). The Arc, by the way, has family support services, primarily respite, from back in the 1950s (and I have cited elsewhere in the article; they did not predate this author's professional family support in New York either). Very early community integration groups are the Arc, a bit on the maternal/paternal side.JARacino (talk)JARacinoJARacino (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:18, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Anyway, first of all, read carefully Help:Page history. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 23:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi, Wondering why the page "eevee" is still locked. Would like to do some clean-up work on it, but can't access. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chief Beef (talkcontribs) 20:50, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

There was a lot of vandalism, so they protected it from anonymous users. Edit is still possible for registered users, so I suggest you to register an account. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 23:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Tube Web Spiders[edit]

We have 2 on our balcony. We live in Exeter in Devon. Where can I send a pic? Josey — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:48, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

No Title[edit]

I added "The Wiggles Live at Disneyland" on here.

But Angus_WOOF reverted back because she doesn't care about the title. Dcelano, 20:17, July 11, 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

Blue in-text link to page in other language[edit]

Hi Basilicofresco. In this edit you linked to page in the German WP. Is that a prcatice that is commonly used? Don't readers expect to be taken to a page in the same language when they click on a blue in-text link? Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 21:49, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi! As you can see I did not inserted any new link, I just converted a preexisting one with an automated bot. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 23:30, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
Hi. My question was more about linking to text in other WPs (in other languages). Thanks. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 15:05, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Well, it is not easy to say in this case if it is better a red link or a blue link to an article written in a different language. IMHO we should ask us: is the creation of the article "The Mission of the Vega" likely? If yes, a red link is better. If not, probably an article in german is better than nothing. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Karon Bradley[edit]

Hello! my name is Karon Bradley a pro basketball player and I would like someone to write an article on me when people search my name I played in France, Italy, Switzerland, Hungary, Macedonia, summer in China..

Hope you can help me

Does you meet the notability guidelines? -- Basilicofresco (msg) 00:03, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Invisible nbsp[edit]

Since you fix spacing I wonder if you also deal, or could you also deal while doing other tasks, also with invisible non-breaking spaces (u00a0). They are useless in-between words, at end of template parameters etc. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:04, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the long delay! I can do it. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


You recently edited an article about prevention of insult of national flag. So can you tell me that is it unlawful to use national flag as a profile pic — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:45, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Attention please
Hi! As you can see in the page history I have actually no involvement in the development of the page Prevention of Insults to National Honour Act, 1971. My only contribution was a small correction as FrescoBot, an automated bot. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:51, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Add to WWII survior list[edit]

How can I add my grandfathers name to the list of survior of ww2 my grandfather Edward Charles Anderson is 93 now.— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:35, August 16, 2014‎ (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello. You unfortunately should not add anyone to lists unless they are notable enough to be on that list. They should have an article on themselves first - see Your First Article on what every article should contain and whether their subject is notable enough to deserve an encyclopedia article. --k6ka (talk | contribs) 23:38, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) Media Viewer RfC[edit]

You are being notified because you have participated in previous discussions on the same topic. Alsee (talk) 16:12, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

FrescoBot: Breaking external links to a foreign language Wikipedia containing templates[edit]

Hi, first of all thanks for the bot! I came across this edit by it, though, which broke an external link to another Wikipedia that contained the template {{de icon}}. I suppose some templates might still work within wikilinks, which would make the decision more complicated, either way I just thought I'd bring it to your attention. Cheers. ‑‑xensyriaT 21:08, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay! I will modify the script in order to move out this kind of template and create a list of other template included inside a wikilink (in order to study a solution). Thank you for pointing it out! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:08, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! ‑‑xensyriaT 23:08, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:54, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Vettai (Singapore TV series)[edit]

the article is about Singapore famous tamil language series, Vettai that aired on MediaCorp Vasantham

And Ladies of the Club[edit]

Regarding the Helen Hooven Santmyer novel "...And Ladies of the Club", the quotation marks are in fact part of the title. See the jacket cover in the infobox on the novel's page, for example. I can overwhelm you with attestations if you really really want them. Does your bot have an exception list? Choor monster (talk) 16:14, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

You're completely right. It's my fault. I just added this novel to the exception list, thank you for letting me know about this problem. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 21:50, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Mistake in FrescoBot[edit]

This edit [14] made a mistaken correction. I suppose you are trying to add forgotten spaces after the article 'a' before a link. However in this case 'a' or 'A' is not an article, but a music note. There is not supposed to be a space in A. −Woodstone (talk) 08:02, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

You're right, I inserted this exception in the script. Thanks for your help! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Your bot is still dequoting "...And Ladies of the Club" to "...And Ladies of the Club"[edit]

Your bot is still moving quote marks from inside the wikilink (blue-link) to outside the wikilink (red-link), this time on Publishers Weekly list of bestselling novels in the United States in the 1980s#1984 diff. Choor monster (talk) 15:13, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, the mistake was mine. Re-fixed! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 06:51, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Speaking programmer to programmer, I'm not sure if your way of fixing things is correct. You maintain a list of articles that contain links that look bad but are in fact correct, and the bot doesn't touch those articles. But that means that if in addition to this oddball Santmyer title, if someone does the quotes wrong with a normally titled link, your bot won't catch it. Feel free to ignore! Choor monster (talk) 13:42, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Bots and diffs[edit]

Greetings. Bots can be so useful but I do find it that long diffs such as [15] waste a lot of time and no small amount of my patience. If this extra long diff file was caused by the attacking of spaces then you have to find a better way of indicating that in the diff. I personally prefer a few extra spaces in the edit window in order to enhance readability without affecting the article page. I would be happier if they weren't removed: only gross spaces should be attacked. Peter Mercator (talk) 14:14, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Peter! The edit was caused by the correction of the sub-optimal syntax of the link "s:1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica/Earth, Figure of the". The unnecessary whitespaces were removed as additional minor change. I don't think that few extra spaces here and there in the middle of a sentence can enhance readability of the text or can be considered an improvment in any way. Nevertheless please note that for example the bot did not remove the double spacing after the end of the sentences. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 14:38, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Typo correction[edit]

Article on Opelousas Catholic School You spelled "School" wrong, you put "chool" instead of "school"

"Richard Rossiter" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect "Richard Rossiter". Since you had some involvement with the "Richard Rossiter" redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. - MrX 01:51, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

LeBlanc relative[edit]

Who are you? I'm Pat's second cousin, & his godchild, and I'd like to know who is posting this information.

If you could get back to me at I'd appreciate it.

Thank you, A proud LeBlanc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:16, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Patrick Leblanc family member - updated post[edit]

Who is this? I am Patrick LeBlanc's second cousin, and his godchild. I'm just wondering who / where this information has come from,and if you have proof to its' COMPLETE validity. You can contact me at I'd sincerely appreciate it.

Thank you. Leah LeBlanc — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Attention please
Hi! As you can see in the page history I have actually no involvement in the development of the page Patrick LeBlanc. My only contribution was a small correction as FrescoBot, an automated bot. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 19:01, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Rinconada Bikol[edit]

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fcbelmontejr (talkcontribs) 01:57, 12 apr 2015‎ (UTC)

Gallipoli[edit] (talk)Gallipoli took place in March 18 1915 ,not in 25 April! (talk)

Hi The proper place for your message was probably here: Talk:Gallipoli. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 10:26, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Link simplification confused by following apostrophes[edit]

Hi! I've found several examples of FrescoBot making an incorrect edit. When FrescoBot works on links like [[Example|''Example'']], it sometimes ends up bolding the following text: diff1, diff2, diff3, diff4, diff5, diff6, diff7, diff8. I caught the AWB general fixes making this mistake and reported it at the AWB bug page, but I was told there that FrescoBot doesn't use the AWB code. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:31, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your report, I will fix the script before the next run! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 05:29, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
Well, taking a look at yor links I noticed that the problem actually was not caused by FrescoBot: some extra '' were already present. The cleanup by FrescoBot just exposed the problem, I mean there is nothing to fix in the script. Nevertheless I can insert additional controls in order to found these extra '' and fix these rare problems manually before the bot pass. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:49, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
John of Reading AWB fixed their side. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:09, 24 May 2015 (UTC)


excuse me, are you Ball?

my number is one

Interwiki links[edit]

I posted an updated list with interwiki/wikipedia links written as external links at Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/090 dump and Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/091 dump -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:31, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

You help is needed! Error 90 and Error 91. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:24, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Category:13th-century lamas[edit]

Please see my proposal to speedily rename Category:13th-century lamas to Category:13th-century Lamas Hugo999 (talk) 05:00, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

"Fixed" a technical term detail as if it were lay-language[edit]

In [16], "all-cis" and "syn" are not two separate adjectives for the following noun, but instead are part of systematic nomenclature, where spaces are not used between comma-separated stereochemical details. In particular, I'm following the examples in ladderane, and the "all-" actually distributes over both "cis" and "syn" in this case. I can't find a clear rule for whether some other punctuation might be appropriate here ("all-cis/syn"?), but in the mean time, is there a way to keep FrescoBot away from it? DMacks (talk) 02:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I just added it to the exceptions list. Thanks a lot! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 05:53, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
And I re-wrote that detail to be in more "language-like" form. The general pattern is probably "strings of comma-separated 'cis', 'trans', 'syn', and/or 'anti'". DMacks (talk) 13:09, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Bracket/Interwiki fixes for FrescoBot[edit]

I wonder if FrscoBot could also fix things like this or this. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:07, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

This. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:49, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Ok np, I will add them. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 06:18, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I love your bot. I would like to see it working constantly and daily :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:54, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Can you please add right-to-left mark (U200F) removal to your fixes? Example. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:52, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

No problem. It's pretty rare, but now I fix it as well. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 23:26, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

And Ladies of the Club, third time[edit]

Your bot has made the same mistake, "fixing" the link "...And Ladies of the Club", this time in Book discussion club. Again, the quotation marks are part of the title, and the article is titled accordingly. Choor monster (talk) 11:29, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Also, it "fixed" the link in List of longest novels. Choor monster (talk) 11:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

And yet again, on Helen Hooven Santmyer. Choor monster (talk) 18:23, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

The exception list was not updated, I'm sorry for that. Fixed again. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 21:13, 28 June 2015 (UTC)


Can I join the A.L.K.Q.N? Cornholeo01 (talk) 17:10, 29 June 2015 (UTC)coenholeo

Sure, but I don't think it will make your life better. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 11:04, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

muneeb choudhary[edit]

hy — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:42, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

?? -- Basilicofresco (msg) 11:04, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Copyeditor Barnstar Hires.png The Copyeditor's Barnstar
Thanks for you review over the article Sadiqkhan79 (talk) 06:14, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Re: serial[edit]

Hello Frescobot,

I noticed you edited the Wiki on Sarah Koenig a few days ago and was wondering about your connection to her. Just to be clear: I don't personally know her and only learned about her from the podcast Serial.

Thank you. RolandBenderr2001 (talk) 04:00, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Attention please
Hi! As you can see in the page history I have actually no involvement in the development of the page Sarah Koenig. My only contribution was a small correction as FrescoBot, an automated bot. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 11:02, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

October lists[edit]

October 2015 lists for

Internal link written as an external link
Interwiki link written as an external link

have been released. Please run your bot to fix them. Thanks in advance. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:14, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Charles Schroeter (Medal of Honor)[edit]


Would you be so kind to look once again at the article on Charles Schroeter (Medal of Honor)? My primary goal is a B Class article.

I think it is far better than the last time you looked at it. Writing is not my forte and American syntax and grammar sometimes is confusing for me. Any help appreciated.

Thank you! Jrcrin001 (talk) 19:11, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Internal links to mobile version[edit]

I wonder whether FrescoBot fixes these. If not, can you please add it? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Added! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 16:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Bgwhite created a list with the current instances. It is located at Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/090 dump. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:34, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Converting worldcat links[edit]

Maybe you could also help in concerting worldcat links? E.g. Like that. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:14, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

No problem, tomorrow I'll add it. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 20:44, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Any news on this? -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:54, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the delay. I just wanted to be sure the "'s incident" was closed. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 10:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Yet another wikilink simplification[edit]

A database scan revealed that there exist cases of [[Foo|Foo.]]. Maybe you wan tot add them to your list of simplifications. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:10, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

[[Foo|Foo,]] too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:11, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

No problem, I will add them asap. Thanks for the ideas. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 06:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 Done -- Basilicofresco (msg) 17:12, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Bgwhite and I fixed everything for this month so do not get supriced that you might find no pages to fix :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:50, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

I noticed, you are always pretty fast. ;) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 06:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
There's a bug with AWB that causes it to not fix every case. You know how how wacko the AWB developers can be. The listing of just under 500 articles and can be found at User:Bgwhite/Sandbox1. It contains cases of [[Foo|''foo'']], [[Foo|'''foo''']] and [[Foo|'''''foo''''']]. Bgwhite (talk) 22:25, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
 Done -- Basilicofresco (msg) 17:12, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Bot removed only useful portion of reference[edit]

Hey, undoubtedly this would be a rare occurrence, but FrescoBot made what seems a mildly harmful edit here. The bot removed all of the useful information from a reference, and left only the wikilink in its place. Of course, wiki shouldn't be used as a reference, but in this case, the other parameters of the cite template contained enough info for me to find the proper url, and fix the ref; only the original url was improper. I don't think it ideal to remove the meat of the ref, and leave only a wikilink, which shouldn't be there in the first place. Any way to prevent the bot from working with ref tags? Antepenultimate (talk) 00:46, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Antepenultimate as you wrote, this is a rare situation. In every other page I 've seen what FrescoBot did, would be the correct thing to do. Unfortunately, many active bots may cover vandalism. This is the price we pay for automated editing. I do not think Basilicofresco should take any action. One thing that comes in mind and we should do is to search for cases where the reference is a single wikilink to English or any other Wikipedia and see why this happens since Wikipedia can't be a reference to itself. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:55, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Well, it is hard to say what is the best approach in borderline cases like that. The problem was waiting for some attention since 20 sept 2014, at least the bot made the hidden mistake evident. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 06:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello! Please have a look at this edit, there's obviously something wrong with the bot. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 05:19, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Hi! Well, it seems correct. As you can see it was just a fake external link. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 11:53, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
On second thought, yes, it makes sense. Though, you might also want to modify the bot so it simply deletes such "sources" – as we know, Wikipedia articles can't be used for that purpose. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 11:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Dsimic I had the same thought. But I think it's difficult for a bot to decide this. I am deleting them when I find them manually. -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:01, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Hm, it should be rather simple to check programmatically whether a reference is just an article link. It's just about parsing the Wiki code, which is already done as part of the bot's implementation. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 12:06, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes, but someone may argue that sometimes the internal link to the article where the information was taken could be useful to find out the original source. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 17:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
True, but that's why we have page histories, right? :) — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 19:10, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I guess the thing that I keep coming back to is that, even when this bot is executing this task in the 'normal' way (for example), we still wind up with a statement that uses Wikipedia as a reference, which we all agree is wrong. It's just wrong in a simpler way now, and my original diff shows that occasionally information that would be useful for verification is removed. Even in my example diff above, and in Dsimic's diff, an access date is removed, which could be useful in locating an older version of the cited page that contains a true reference (a long shot, but possible).

More simply put, what exactly is the benefit that is gained from this automated task? I don't really see a clear improvement being made by removing the remainder of the citation template (it's a bad ref before, and still a bad ref after), so even if the harmful edits are rare, that's a problem. It would be better, I think, to leave the citations alone (or maybe only convert the external link to a wikilink), and tag them with an {{Unreliable source?}} template, so that attention is called to the problem, without deleting the information that could be used to solve the problem. (As far as I can tell, there is no template to specifically point out cases where Wikipedia is used as a reference, but my search is undoubtedly incomplete. 'Unreliable source' is the truth, however, it's part of the reason such references aren't allowed.)

Not trying to disparage your hard work in creating and maintaining this bot. I'm always impressed with the amount of work that has been automated around here, and the vast majority of the work done by FrescoBot is great! Antepenultimate (talk) 22:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Maybe we could instead comment out such self-references and put {{Citation needed}} next to them? That way, we'd have no disallowed sources around, and when someone checks why the {{Citation needed}} is there, they will be able to see the commented-out stuff and potentially do something with it. Just as a thought. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 22:42, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
I like that; it's a much more elegant solution than my original suggestion. Antepenultimate (talk) 23:16, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I paused this script. The idea to call attention to the problem using {{Citation needed}} or {{Unreliable source}} sounds good. The reason why I was removing the {{cite web}} wrap was to expose the problem, but your suggestion seems more effective. Let's find out the best solution in detail. Original reference:

<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=Delaware Army Guard||year=2006|accessdate=May 11, 2012}}</ref>

Solution1: just adds {{Unreliable source}}

<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=Delaware Army Guard||year=2006|accessdate=May 11, 2012}}</ref>{{Unreliable source|certain=y|reason=per WP:CIRCULAR|date=August 2015}}

Solution2: adds {{Unreliable source}} and converts the external link in internal link ("url" parameter cannot accept a wikilink, so uses "quote")

<ref>{{cite web|quote=[[153rd Military Police Company (United States)]]|title=Delaware Army Guard||year=2006|accessdate=May 11, 2012}}</ref>{{Unreliable source|certain=y|reason=per WP:CIRCULAR|date=August 2015}}

Solution3: comments out the original reference and adds {{Citation needed}}

<!--<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=Delaware Army Guard||year=2006|accessdate=May 11, 2012}}</ref>-->{{Citation needed|reason=Commented out source per WP:CIRCULAR|date=August 2015}}

I will apply one of the above solutions + url conversion as well to:

<ref>[ 153rd Military Police Company]</ref>
<ref>[[153rd Military Police Company (United States)]]</ref>

Personally I prefer Solution1 because actually the problem is the unreliable source. I believe {{cn}} is more suitable for all quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged and here the bot cannot verify if after commenting out the bad reference a citation is actually needed. Moreover other sources may be present and {{cn}} may be inappropriate. Does Solution1 sound good? -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:18, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

After thinking more about it, I'd say that the Solution #1 might be the best, but with adding {{Better source}} instead of {{Unreliable source}}. The source is certainly inappropriate, and what we need is to draw attention to the need for a better source. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 07:32, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Good, {{Better source|reason=per WP:CIRCULAR|date=August 2015}} sounds even better. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:49, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
I think that this solution sounds great. I like that this clearly flags the issue for attention so anyone watching a page will immediately see what needs to be done. I had not noticed the {{Better source}} template in my earlier search but it describes the problem perfectly. Thank you for addressing the concern! Antepenultimate (talk) 11:26, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Anchor task for FrescoBot[edit]

Per documentation, change ==Foo {{anchor}}== to =={{anchor}} Foo==. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:18, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I'll do it, but I want to be sure to use the best solution. For this reason I requested some comments in Template talk:Anchor#Position about placing the anchor outside the section header. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 16:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Blocked Bot for 12 hours for changing a style issue in articles.[edit]

I have reverted an edit that your bot made here to Battle of Worcester but I see that your bot has been making similar changes to other pages.

  1. I find it strange that it is necessary to block the account and not simply stop your bot by setting a flag on its talk page.
  2. I have set the block to 12 hours, as a heads up, so that you have time to modify its behaviour, but I will extend it if you start to make similar edits without a clear consensus to do so.

The reason why changing is because these two are visually different and the former is a deliberate choice:

This is different from a plural where the s also appears in blue so that there is no visual difference

If you agree that these Worcester cathedral's and Worcester cathedral's examples are different then I expect you to run you bot and revert the changes it has made to articles. -- PBS (talk) 07:13, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, it was not necessary to block the bot since a message here, (as you can see above) is usually enough to raise my attention, but come back to the issue. Well I was not aware that [[Worcester cathedral|Worcester cathedral's]] could be considered deliberate. I just considered it a typo because saxon genitive clearly does not belong to the subject name and there is no reason to include it in the link. For the very same reason for example I was fixing as well:
  • [[cathedral|cathedral of]] --> [[cathedral]] of
  • [[cathedral|cathedral.]] --> [[cathedral]].
  • [[cathedral|cathedral,]] --> [[cathedral]],
  • [[cathedral|"cathedral"]] --> "[[cathedral]]"
I agree that Worcester cathedral's and Worcester cathedral's are different, but the latter is better. Since the consensus now is not clear I will open a discussion. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:36, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Basilicofresco should I unblock so that you continue the other fixes? Just skip this rule the other rules are fine. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:54, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

PBS by mistake autoblocked the bot instead just blocking it. As you know this means that after few minutes my ip address was blocked as well... I written via email to PBS more than 30 minutes ago but without any luck. Usually I prefer to wait for the same administrator for lifting a block, but in this case the autoblock is really a mistake and it's preventing me from starting a discussion about the issue he was complaining... As I said to PBS the above job is stopped, so the block can be safely removed from the bot as well. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 08:31, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

@Basilicofresco and PBS: Done. The block was used to just stop the bot. Basilicofresco, there is trust that you won't do that particular change till the issue is resolved. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 08:47, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

The above job is completely stopped now. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 09:02, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

08:59. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:11, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm sorry. I forgot I was running a second instance of the script. As I said, since 9:00 UTC the job is completely stopped. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 09:15, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Magioladitis. I would have unblocked once I knew the issue was being addressed (and no more such changes were being made).
Basilicofresco I think you need to implement a red button any editor can use to stop your bot. Eg check for changes to the talk page of the bot and only run it if the last edit to the talk page is later than your bot change.
Now to the issue at hand you write "I agree that Worcester cathedral's and Worcester cathedral's are different, but the latter is better." so you agree it is a visual style issue and it is not up to the bot to make style changes. "I just considered it a typo because saxon genitive clearly does not belong to the subject name". "saxon"! Links are not specifically to an article name, it is simly a link to an article (for example one can write the cathedral's), and the appearance is a visual issue (eg is the whole word underlined? Why are the two characters at the end not? It looks odd!).
As you do not have an agreement to make such changes, re-run you bot and undo them. -- PBS (talk) 09:22, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

I also want to note that the agreed changes did not affect the visual output. And all additions I proposed to the bot tasks after the BRFA were in the same spirit. This change we discuss here changes the visual output so PBs was correct to stop the bot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:28, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Sounds safer to find out before what is the best solution. You consider it a matter of taste, I consider it a markup mistake. It is not clear what is consensus about this issue, so reverting them back could be equally problematic. When the consensus will be more clear I will revert them back or I will fill a new BRFA for this new fix. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 09:35, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
WP:BRD, revert them and then discuss it. -- PBS (talk) 09:43, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

@Basilicofresco and PBS: My opinion: I see no reason to be hasty here. Let's ask to get some opinions. This is a medium scale change. Reverting back and forth won't help. We ask, we get consensus, we run the bots and we are done. After we get consensus the bot will require a few hours.

I support PBS version but I support Basilicofresco's approach of how we deal with this problem. Just be more careful in the future when introducing new changes that can be controversial. The experience shows that every change in the visual output (and sometimes not even that) can be controversial. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:47, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Ofcourse, PBS and any other is allowed to revert to the previous version. I am discussing the bot run here. I do know even have a clue of how many pages where affected. The first edit I noticed in this direction was yesterday and I would have not noticed it affects the visual output till PBS acted. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:49, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

After thinking a bit about it, IMHO "Worcester cathedral's" looks better than "Worcester cathedral's", although "Worcester cathedral's" is technically better by requiring less Wiki code. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 09:55, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Yes, the latter break sticky links which I consider wrong too. I wonder how many pages were affected and where should this discussion be held. -- 10:00, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Dsimic, if we worry about code levels then there is a lot that can be stripped out, but we do not worry about performance over such issues. Besides long term there is a better fix to alter the underling wiki interpretaion to treat "'s" the same as any other usual extension such as "s" -- PBS (talk) 10:04, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Quite frankly, I'd say that seeking for such MediaWiki changes would be rather far-fetched. It could be worth a shot, though. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 10:18, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Basilicofresco do you have an estimate of the pages affected? -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:41, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

I opened a new discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking#Saxon genitive and piping. Frankly I was surprised by the number of pages involved by the 's issue... I just launched a query to find out the exact number of articles involved. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 10:49, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
About 4600 pages were edited so far for the above reason. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 15:52, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
@PBS: see why I said that we should be careful? -- Magioladitis (talk) 01:07, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
@Magioladitis careful and thoughtful is to revert the changes as there was no consensus for the change, every day tthat passes makes fixing the problem harder. For example what is to be done if another "'s" is added by hand to one of the articles that was change, keeping to the style consistent with the bot's recent change? Do we change that new one as well? If not then the article will be inconsistent. If so then the bot is committing a similar inconsiderate edit as has already been made. The potential for complications expands every day there is a delay. So I expect Basilicofresco to stop the prevaricating, to act in good faith and to revert the bot's changes as soon as possible. I agreed with your removal the block, because I assumed that Basilicofresco would act in good faith over this issue. ... -- PBS (talk) 15:10, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

@Basilicofresco and PBS: I think the best solution is to change all' wikilinks with "'s" to [[foo|foo's]]]. I'll ask MW guys why there is this inconsistency in stickylinks. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:16, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

No that is a bad idea. People choose the style they prefer. While I personally prefer [[foo|foo's]]] that is no reason to force it on others. All that matters is that articles are consistent, there does not have to be consistency across articles over something like this. Basilicofresco should simply revert the bot's edits for the pages that the bot changed from 's]], ]]'s. It should have been done days ago as soon as it was raised. If Basilicofresco's bot can not revert its edits then we need to have another discussion. -- PBS (talk) 15:22, 18 August 2015 (UTC) (edit clash)

@Basilicofresco and PBS: phab:T109450. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:19, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Iteresting as that discussion may become, it is just another delay, as the difference has been there since the project started, and quite frankly anyone who makes this change ought to have been well aware of the difference. Basilicofresco has stated above that (s)he was aware of the difference. It is long past time that this change was reverted. -- PBS (talk) 15:27, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm not "prevaricating", I drop the fix. The point is the usefulness of the mass revert. Does a correct form exist? -- Basilicofresco (msg) 05:40, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

One area the hit and run editor gets involved in is the formatting ... The quality of work has increased in some areas, which makes it harder to contribute without good knowledge in the subject matter and sources. Fiddling with the formatting seems to be a suitable alternative passtime.


EEng (talk) 06:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

"I'm not 'prevaricating', I drop the fix." You dropped the "fix" because if you had not your bot would have remained blocked! You are prevaricating over fixing your mess.
I should not have to lecture someone running a bot on Wikipedia:Bot policy
  1. "Bot usage: The community expects high standards before a bot is approved for use on designated tasks, because bots: ... may cause severe disruption if they malfunction or are misused. ... Administrators blocking a user account suspected of operating an unapproved bot or an approved bot in unapproved ways should block indefinitely."
  2. WP:BOTACC "Bot accounts should not be used for contributions that do not fall within the scope of the bot's designated tasks"
  3. WP:BOTACC "The contributions of a bot account remain the responsibility of its operator, who must be prominently identifiable on its user page. In particular, the bot operator is responsible for the repair of any damage caused by a bot which operates incorrectly." -- Your choice either run you bot to revert the change, or use AWB, or do it by hand. But unless I see action very shortly I will block you bot account.
--- PBS (talk) 07:50, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
I believe you did not understand at all my point, probably I was not able to explain it properly. There was no hurry and I just wanted to be sure about revert: there is still no consensus on a correct form, apparently we can't consider one form "broken" and therefore the only damage was changing the style itself. Now you are forcing me to change it again fixing something that is not broken. Ok, I will do it. There is so little time and so many more useful things to do for both of us. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 11:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
I have been relying on your good faith, to get on and revert the changes. It is now 11 days since we last corresponded and you have not reverted the changes. Here for example is one of the edits that was made was and is not been revered. You are to provide a time line in days not weeks for the reversal of all the changes you made without consensus to make them.
1) when will you start the reversals?
2) when will you be finished?
-- PBS (talk) 12:04, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
I replied there. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 10:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to kvetch...[edit]

...but please modify your bot to make trivial changes like this onne [17] only as part of an edit which fixes an actual problem. Watchlists and edit histories shouldn't be cluttered with such trivial tinkering. EEng (talk) 13:12, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Bot should not move "apostrophe s" out of links[edit]

This edit by the bot was incorrect: apostrophe s does not work correctly when tacked onto a link. The link excludes the apostrophe s. The bot should not do this.

Compare: laser's and laser's. They are not equivalent, and the former is correct, not the latter. --Srleffler (talk) 06:22, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Srleffler this is already discussed above. -- Magioladitis (talk) 06:26, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I see. The changes made by the bot are inappropriate and should have been reverted by the bot's owner by now. Bot owners should be more responsible than this. --Srleffler (talk) 06:33, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

help me to build a page[edit]

hi dear please help me to build kamal sarabandi's page in EnWiki. TNX ETR e YAS (talk) 12:21, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Not a good idea[edit]

Where were edit of this type discussed? And this, same type. Debresser (talk) 17:09, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

All over this very page. EEng (talk) 00:45, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
I know it was not a good idea and I'm sorry about these changes. As you can see here and at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking#Saxon genitive and piping a couple of users have very strong feelings about the 's outside the link and demanded a revert with some peremptoriness. Feel free to revert them if necessary. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 05:38, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. By the way, I added my opinion there. Debresser (talk) 07:15, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Samuel L. Jackson[edit]

Hi, when I look at your Bot's edit of [[]] The following text appears in red (same text style as Wikipedia's This is a preview): "Script error: The module returned a value. It is supposed to return an export table. Script error: The module returned a value. It is supposed to return an export table." This appears 5 times in a row just under the header, a couple of times in side boxes and replaces the text of every citation except one ( Ryzik, Melena. Supporting Actor Category Is Thick With Hopefuls, New York Times (December 19, 2012).). I haven't reverted it because it might just be something nuts with my browser (Chrome 44.0.2403.155 m), it doesn't appear in IE, Chrome mobile, or Safari. Previous edits all look normal. Anyway, I thought you should know in case it is something not just happening in my machine. Thanks ---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falamingotoo (talkcontribs) 19:45, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Falamingotoo: This was a widespread problem which has now been resolved. See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 139#Script error. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Hey I was just wondering. It says you made an edit 7 days ago. I was wanting to know what it was you editited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:17, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Attention please
Hi! As you can see in the page history I have actually no involvement in the development of the page Samuel L. Jackson. My only contribution was a small correction as FrescoBot, an automated bot. For further information you can take a look at Help:Page history. Have a nice day! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 10:29, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

What the heck...[edit] this about? BMK (talk) 03:06, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Fixed! Thanks for your message. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 05:46, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
No problem. Thanks for the fix. BMK (talk) 05:51, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

More pages need your help![edit]

Please run your bot against these lists: Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/090 dump, Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/091 dump. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:18, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

{{Better source}} template on Wikipedia refs[edit]

I'm not understanding the reason of adding the {{Better source}} template to references that only source Wikipedia, especially with WP:CIRCULAR. Example would be [18] or [19]. Was there a talk discussion or something else? Bgwhite (talk) 19:45, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

See User talk:Basilicofresco#Bot removed only useful portion of reference above. Antepenultimate (talk) 20:28, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
@Antepenultimate and Dsimic: I see nothing to say why the reference is not removed, though it is large discussion. Per WP:CIRCULAR, Do not use articles from Wikipedia as sources.. It gives only one exception. WP:CIRCULAR is a step above MOS. {{Better source}} is worthless because Wikipedia cannot be used as a source. What reason is there to go against circular? Bgwhite (talk) 21:12, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
@Bgwhite:, it is a large discussion, but I thought it was pretty clear in the initial discussion section that the reasons for not removing the refs outright is 1) Not all wikilinks in citation templates are worthless refs, the remainder of the templates can contain clues to replace the circular ref with a valid one (as occurred in the case that prompted me to start the discussion), and 2) that the original source may sometimes be found by visiting the linked article, as stated plainly by Basilicofresco is response to Dsimic raising the exact issue you have.
From the documentation at Template:Better source: "This template is used in articles to identify sentences or short passages which have an inline citation but reference insufficient sources." Note that 'insufficient sources' is linked to WP:NOTRS... and that WP:CIRCULAR is a sub-section of WP:NOTRS. In other words, this is exactly the sort of situation this tag was designed for. Anyone seeing these references pointed out by the bot's edit (it's not like the bot is inserting them) is welcome to remove them if they think that is the best course of action. Antepenultimate (talk) 21:49, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
For folks who may be interested (I know I would have been), Bgwhite has decided to start a discussion at WP:V regarding treatment of internal wiki refs. Antepenultimate (talk) 03:06, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Karl Boer date of Birth[edit]

In his book his birthday is listed as March 23 1926

On this site it reads March 26 1926

Which is correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:18, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I inserted a source for the birthdate. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:27, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Pinacol rearreangement[edit]

May I know what edit you made in pinacol rearreangement page? (talk) 16:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi! As you can see there was a missing space at the beginning of the article between "The" and "1,2-rearrangement". -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:17, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

List of former US installations in Germany[edit]

Just read your list. Thought I would let you know about Rhein Kaserne in Wiesbaden Germany. I was there from 1972 to 1973 when our unit 5/81 Field Artillery left to go to Strassburg Kaserne in Idar Oberstein. Rhein Kaserne was given back to Germany I think in 1974. Thanks. James Page166.173.248.122 (talk) 00:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

A page you started (Andriana (disambiguation)) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Andriana (disambiguation), Basilicofresco!

Wikipedia editor Zppix just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Try to avoid red links within disambiguation pages.

To reply, leave a comment on Zppix's talk page.

Learn more about page curation.

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:50, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Basilicofresco![edit]

Dear Basilicofresco, Face-smile.svg
Thank you once again for all the wonderful things you do in support of our encyclopedia! Face-wink.svg
I wish you to have a great and enjoyable New Year in 2016!
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 17:28, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

fixing 's outside of wikilink[edit]

Magioladitis is wondering if you were interested in fixing:

Team Canada junior team's


Team Canada junior team's Bgwhite (talk) 21:36, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

He played for stanningley sarlc not rangers — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:27, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Did the bot stop?[edit]

Hi. Your bot had no edits cine December. Why???? Please come back! -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:50, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Magioladitis! I'm sorry for the looong delay. I'm stuck with real life events, hard time with the work and the migration of all bot scripts. However I see the light at the end of the tunnel and I expect to come back really soon. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 16:09, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Basilicofresco Thanks for the reply! It's nice to hear that you are OK! -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:50, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

We need you back to keep fixing CHECKWIKI errors. :) Take care! -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:09, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Improve syntax fix logic[edit]

I noticed this edit. Can you please update your logic so it does this too in a single edit? Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 08:17, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Magioladitis! FrescoBot is back. :) Well "Marine Aircraft Group 40" ≠ "Marine Air Group 40", so in this case it was not fixable by a bot, but in any case I will improve the fixes about an extra indesirable character at the end of piping. --Basilicofresco (msg) 09:49, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I am so happy that you and your bot are back!! I did not nice that the two names were not the same. LOL. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 11:31, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

I wonder if you can also detect and fix these [20]. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:15, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I'm studing the kind of tags I can find inside the piped links and figuring out which ones can be safely moved outside or removed. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 06:01, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
I only need the br tag to move outside the wikilink. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:05, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
Ok, I'll add it. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 22:31, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

I noticed this edit. Maybe you could also simplify the wikilink in a single edit too? -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:06, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Already fixed! –– Basilicofresco (msg) 14:23, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

FrescoBot glitch[edit]

Hi and thank you for the very useful work of this bot. I'm not entirely sure though what it was trying to do here [21]. Uanfala (talk) 08:19, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I immediately noticed the problem with that edit and I was already working on it. The bot tried to convert .5Bv.5D in [v], but failed because I did not expect to encounter square brakets within a wikilink during the conversion. I'm working on a solution. Nevertheless, thank you for reporting it! --Basilicofresco (msg) 09:09, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
I just discovered that in this particular case the codes %5B and %5D should not be converted because obviously even Mediawiki has got problems with square brakets within links. I will skip them. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 09:21, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Adding Categories to a Wikipedia entry - Question[edit]

Caro Basilico Fresco, I am learning a lot about Wikipedia article writing via editing the Charles Sherman (artist) article. I would like to follow through with the suggestion made by your 'bottino'. I think that categories for this sculptor would best be "Sculptors from California" and "21st Century American Sculptors". I am not sure how to do it and read this page: It is a bit complex for me. I actually often edit by following the example of a prior edit! I could add in the categories I mentioned above fairly easily - but: do I add the artist's page to the Category page first - or do I add the Category page to the artist's page first? That is the question! Grazie mille per il vostro aiuto! UserMusaVeneziana talk 20:28, 21 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MusaVeneziana (talkcontribs)

FrescoBot oops with 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica[edit]

Example of a page of [[s:1911_Encyclopædia_Britannica/Assumpsit|]] going to [[{{subst:uc:}}s:1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Assumpsit| Encyclopædia Britannica/Assumpsit]]

This is clearly an example of garbage link going in and getting garbage out. However, I was wondering why the bot added {{subst}}? There's ~15 articles that CheckWiki picked up and I'll be fixing them. Bgwhite (talk) 05:59, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

I made an assumption. It's not just the Encyclopedia links. Others are Baba Sali, Elizabeth of Bohemia (1292–1330), Eosinophilic granulomatosis with polyangiitis, Henoch–Schönlein purpura, List of Aegean Islands and Tsang Lap Chuen. All have the same subst issue. Bgwhite (talk) 06:10, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Strange problem... Thank you for pointing it out! The bot is stopped. I will fix both the affected pages and the script asap! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 10:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Beautiful in Green[edit]

Caro BasilicoFresco, Grazie mille for your Categories instruction (please see note to you on my Talk page.) I have a problem with my signature - User is stuck to it and it is red colored! It is my aim to remove the User and make the signature in capital letters and green-colored like yours. I admire your classical style! UserMusaVeneziana talk 18:47, 22 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MusaVeneziana (talkcontribs)

“Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness.” ― Oscar Wilde.
MusaVeneziana (talk) 20:42, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

On articles on Donald Trump changing to "Donald Drumpf"[edit]

It's nothing more than a web extension made by comedian John Oliver that I found on the Google Chrome Web Store. This extension changes any articles containing his last name to "Trump" to "Drumpf". Just wanted to let you know. Thank you. -NewHikaru07, August 30, 2016, 13:00 (UTC)

I copied the above to the Talk page of NewHikaru07 where its intended recipient: Granger will see it. MusaVeneziana(talk) 13:23, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

About the name illirya.[edit]

Hey, i just saw that u said that the name illirya is latin, I totally agree with that.. But i absolutely dont agree with you writing that it also can be greek! I'm an albanian, so the Word/name ILLIRYA, will say "i" = i'm " ilir" =free. The reason the albanians named their terretories illiria(in albanian) was because they

struggled to be free from others who would love to have their country.

I dont know much, but after always hearing my ancestors and my parents always talking about history, i know that much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:23, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology Delhi (Q24883643) vs Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology Delhi" (Q17056472)[edit]

Respacted sir,
  Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology Delhi (Q24883643) is copied from Indraprastha Institute of Information Technology Delhi" (Q17056472) and abolish all languages topics of it, please  look into. 
                                                                     thank Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).


         (talk) 06:47, 19 September 2016 (UTC)                                                Richa Choudhay

New db dump[edit]

Hi. Oct 2016 dump is out. Please, resume your bot! -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:39, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Lulu Haangala-Wood[edit]

I would like to clarify that Mr Mathias Mainza Chona was not Mrs Lulu Haangala-Wood's grandfather but her great uncle. Her paternal grandfather was Mr Haangala.And not as stated in the facts. (talk) 10:27, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

New simplify links[edit]

Can you please search and fix things such as [[foo|"foo"]], [[foo|'foo']], [[foo|'''''foo''''']], [[foo|«foo»]], [[foo|`foo`]] and [[foo|„foo“]]? -- Magioladitis (talk) 16:13, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Fro more ideas please check Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Check_Wikipedia#.2364_suggestion. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:27, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Here is a full list of pages detected. Please run your bot! Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 064 dump. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:28, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi Magioladitis! Sound good ideas! I will test them tomorrow. Thanks for your suggestions. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 15:25, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

I noticed some tests. Maybe our list contains false positives too? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:40, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Hi @Magioladitis:! The bot is running on the list right now, however I noticed some false positives. For example [[505 Gibbs|.505 Gibbs]] should not be converted in .[[505 Gibbs]]. Moreover I would be happy to convert [[Robert Toombs|Robert Toombs']] into a reasonable [[Robert Toombs]]', but I guess that PBS would consider it a great reason to block me again etc... ;) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 17:59, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
PS. Ok, I actually just converted few links with the traling ' but after few seconds I realized it was comparable with the dreadful trailing 's issue and I immediately removed that new fix. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 18:07, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I believe NicoV would be happy to now about it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:20, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

It's OK to fix as many as possible and then see what's left. I just fixed this one. -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:08, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

There has been a massive cleanup. Please check the Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 064 dump page again. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:35, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

@Magioladitis and NicoV: Ok, I processed the list. Would you like to recreate it in order to check for the articles left? -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:32, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

NicoV wont be around for a few days. We'll have to wait till middle of next week. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:30, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

@Magioladitis and Basilicofresco: I'm back Face-smile.svg As we are at the beginning of a new month, I'm waiting for the new dump to run the analysis again: probably before or during the weekend. I've also added the detection of parenthesis (an open parenthesis before, or a closing parenthesis after) for the new analysis, maybe you can update your bot for them ? --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 12:38, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Some parenthesis typos are already included, but of course I can improve it if necessary. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:49, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
Ok. The analysis has been run on the new dump, 1254 pages detected for #64. --NicoV (Talk on frwiki) 06:46, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

New cases added. New bot run is required. -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:26, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Basicilofresco we need you! -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:46, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

Basilicofresco Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 064 dump contains some new ideas too. Still 1000 pages to go :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 18:56, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I'm sorry for the delay, during the last 2 weeks I have been on a pretty busy work trip in the USA. Ok, let me see what I can do for these pages... ;) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:10, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Basilicofresco Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 064 dump was regenerated. Please rerun your bot! -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:00, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Where is the evidence of Sikh Sudhans?[edit]

I have heard of "Sudans" but they don't seem to be the same people as Sudhans. And there is no source on this page of Sikh Sudhans like there is of possible Pashtun origin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:57, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

FrescoBot hitting the spamblacklist[edit]

Hi. FrescoBot is trying to update old links for urls that have now been blacklisted. It might be worth looking to skip fixing any articles or files that have (regex) urls listed in Mediawiki:Spam-blacklist. Not an issue if you don't mind having the bot have its attempts listed in the logs for the spam hits. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:15, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Uhmm... probably is a better idea to let the bot trigger the filter because it means that there are disguised blacklisted urls in that pages. Doing this someone can manually check these pages and annihilate the disguised urls. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 08:39, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Bot bug - "trans_title" changed to incorrect "trans title" in cite template[edit]

In this edit, your bot changed the valid cite template |trans_title= to |trans title= and put spaces in URLs. Please fix these bugs in your code. Thank you. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:39, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll immediately fix it. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 09:45, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Simpsons writer help[edit]


I am having trouble getting a page made for tv writer David King. I noticed you had edited a similar writer with only an IMDb credit. Wiki tells me IMDb is not good enough. He wrote the Simpsons episode from this year "the town" as well as multiple parks and Rec episodes. Please advise. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcjc (talkcontribs) 08:20, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

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More link simplifications[edit]

-- Magioladitis (talk) 14:55, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

FrescoBot and author–date references[edit]

It looks like there’s a glitch in FrescoBot when cleaning up some links for author–date references; it converts citations such as “Adams (1981, 39)” to “Adams (1981), 39)” (see Exposure value#Setting EV on a camera for this example). The code for the link is

[[#CITEREFAdams1981|Adams (1981]], 39)

The link may look a bit weird, but the link is to the entire book rather than just the page number, so it must be as it is. And in any event, the link doesn’t look nearly as weird as “Adams (1981), 39)”.

JeffConrad (talk) 06:28, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

@JeffConrad: Hi! Ok, I will improve the logic in order to detect a closing bracket even several characters outside the link (and avoid that kind of problems). In any case that link looks strange... maybe something like [[#CITEREFAdams1981|Adams (1981)]], 39 is more natural and simple. One bracket blue and one bracket black is really weird. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 06:05, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
You’re not the first person to suggest the different-colored brackets look weird ... Hard to say if the form you suggest is more natural; it probably is from the standpoint of balancing parens and WLs, and of course the appearance of the link, but it’s not a proper parenthetical citation—the entire reference, including the page number, goes inside the parens. Conceivably, it could be given as Adams (1981, 39); prima facie, this probably looks less weird, but it implies a target specific to the page number, which isn’t the case. One thing to note here: there are many varieties of author–date citations. This article uses Chicago-style author–date, which doesn’t prepend “p.” to the number. Other styles—such as Harvard and APA—would give this as Adams (1981, p. 39).
I concede it’s a pain to have to deal with all of this, but I haven’t figured out any other way to give the citations. Incidentally, I used author–date citations because the article has substantive footnotes, which don’t mix well with footnote citations, however one dances around the problem.
JeffConrad (talk) 07:23, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Break tags inside wikilinks[edit]

Maybe you could add a fix for [[Foo|Bar<br>]] to [[Foo|Bar]]<br> . -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:17, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Done! Good idea, thanks. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 22:54, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


Consider fixing this too:

Cognitive rhetoric: [[Reader response|“reader response”]]

-- Magioladitis (talk) 23:11, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Added! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 07:21, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

What about

  • Yitzhak Ben Ner: [[Rony Gruber|Rony Gruber)]] -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:43, 22 December 2016 (UTC)
Done! Now the bot is exterminating also this one. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 10:49, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Is this different? Banking in the Jacksonian Era: [[Pet banks|“pet banks”]]. Please check the Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 064 dump list for unfixed ones! -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:52, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

...and keep in mind we have this list too! Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/064 dump. Your bot code is amazing! -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:03, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

Today working on Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/064 dump I found some new families of counterintuitive unexpected mistakes created with the help of visualeditor. I'm taking care of them... -- Basilicofresco (msg) 22:26, 26 December 2016 (UTC)
Perfect. Sometimes, I just want to sit and watch FrescoBot editing while eating pop-corn :) -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:34, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Things like Beneficiary (trust) [[Inter vivos trust|''Inter vivos trust]] should be fixable too. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:36, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

 Done -- Basilicofresco (msg) 22:34, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Yet some good ones:

-- Magioladitis (talk) 22:56, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

This one: [24]. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

A pie for you![edit]

A very beautiful Nectarine Pie.jpg For the awesome work you do! Magioladitis (talk) 13:11, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
Uhh! Thanks!!! :) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 18:01, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

FrescoBot changes to Felidae article[edit]

The automatic changes made to the Felidae article by the Frescobot on Dec 24 introduced some errors. It added some spaces to a Newick string used to create the cladogram. The Newick string is parsed by the new clade template (cladeN is the test version) and spaces are conventionally forbidden in Newick strings. While I can fix the changes I'm concerned the Frescobot is going to redo them. I think it would be better not to change template parameters automatically, but I'll see if I can change the Lua module so the parser is more forgiving. Jts1882 (talk) 16:10, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

I was not aware of this problem. I will adjust the script in order to avoid that kind of strings. Thanks! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 22:01, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Cosmetic only changes[edit]

In this edit the bot seems to be only making cosmetic only changes to the Wikitext, removing extra space, and capitalizing links. I thought there was a rule WP:COSMETICBOT about that. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:58, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Graeme Bartlett check line 49. Bot fixed a wikilink. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:03, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the quick response! (Thanks also for not changing image: to File: which some other bot editors would do). Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:28, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
  • How about this one? It seems that all it is doing is fiddling around with white space. Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:08, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Hawkeye7 this is a good one. It added space between two wikilinks. This is one of the main purposes of this bot. -- Magioladitis (talk) 11:23, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

February lists[edit]

February 2017 lists for

Link equal to wikitext
Internal link written as an external link
Interwiki link written as an external link

have been released. Please run your bot to fix them. Thanks in advance. -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:27, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

I just updated the first list with 2,000 pages. Please help. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:58, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. FrescoBot is chewing pages. ;) -- Basilicofresco (msg) 16:59, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

You are great. See also if you can do some of these Wikipedia:CHECKWIKI/WPC 064 dump. It has been regenerated with 3,000 pages. -- Magioladitis (talk) 20:56, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Airport stubs[edit]

Hi Basilicofresco. Your bot singled a double space before the stub tag on the Perales Airport page. I don't have any documentation on it, but it is the custom on at least the airport pages to double space before placing the stub tag at the very bottom of the edit window to separate the tag from the article. If you can fix the bot to leave those alone, it would be appreciated. Thanks Cptmrmcmillan (talk) 07:07, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I think it was done due to the 2 stub templates on the same line. I fixed it. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:30, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I will improve the scripts in order to preserve any extra blank line before a stub template in any condition. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:21, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
 Done -- Basilicofresco (msg) 12:34, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks muchly. Cptmrmcmillan (talk) 20:43, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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It is not exact. I just created the redirect, 7 years ago. Basilicofresco (msg) 05:41, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

FrescoBot and category sorting[edit]

Hi, just dropping a line because of a recurrent problem in a series of articles I've been writing and editing (but this probably applies across Wikipedia). The main articles of categories are normally sorted as a space, per Wikipedia:Categorization#Sort keys, No. 2:

The main article/s of a category, if existent, should get sorted with a space as key so that it/they appear at the very top of the category. Example: [[Category:Example| ]] Those articles are typically homonymous or at least synonymous to their category. Furthermore other general articles that are highly relevant to the category should be sorted with an asterisk as key so that they also appear at the top of a category but beneath the main article/s. Example: [[Category:Example|*]] Those articles are typically called "History of example", "Types of example", "List of example" or similar.

However, FrescoBot is replacing the space with the name of the page being sorted. So twice in the last day, Autronia (gens), which should be sorted at the top of the category [[Category:Autronii| ]], has been automatically changed to [[Category:Autronii|Autronii]]. I admit to having been confused myself at an earlier stage about how to sort Roman gentes within their categories, but on further investigation and consideration, there's no doubt that they should be sorted at the top, before any other entries in the category. This is the third time I've had to revert the change on this particular page, and I've had to do it before with other gentes (I've never asked a bot manager for help before). Since a great many categories are designed to work this way, I'm sure that an exception is warranted. Hope you can do something to help! P Aculeius (talk) 02:30, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi! You are right, it's a mistake. Actually it was not properly recognized as category and the misplaced full stop after the category triggered the edit. I fixed the script and it should not happen again. Thanks for your help! -- Basilicofresco (msg) 04:28, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! You know, I never noticed that period there before. I wonder if there are more of them in other articles where this has happened! I appreciate your quick fix! P Aculeius (talk) 12:39, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

FrescoBot boob[edit]

Sorry to report that your bot boobed with this edit: BushelCandle (talk) 06:01, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I will immediately fix the problem. -- Basilicofresco (msg) 11:12, 26 May 2017 (UTC)



I saw your edit to the article "khubz". The article is vague, it is not clear what kind of bread it is talking about. If it is talking about Pita bread (Arabic bread) then there's another good article about it. If it means the thin bread then it should have another name. Khobz is just bread in Arabic. For example, in Lebanon it is called Khubz Marquq, or Khubz Sokhn.

Cheers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:16, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


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National heros Sri Lanka[edit]

N H M Abdul Cader was a national hero — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:01, 15 June 2017 (UTC)