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Thank you!

https[edit] Bgwhite (talk) 00:30, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Excellent. --bender235 (talk) 07:55, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
@Bgwhite: and I know who's next. --bender235 (talk) 17:38, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
World dominance is within reach!! I thought this link from the NY Times article was a good one. Bgwhite (talk) 18:34, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, very nice find. Even more entries for my bot's to-do list. --bender235 (talk) 18:40, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Redirection of list of state leaders in 2016 and list of state leaders in 2017 to list of state leaders in the 21st century[edit]

On 4 January Tahc redirected List of state leaders in 2016 and List of state leaders in 2017 to List of state leaders in the 21st century without any reason. Neither I, nor you, nor other contributors of these articles expressed the accord to these action which I consider abusive. Please sustain me in the action for annulment of this action,express your protest to TAHC and ask the reversion of redirections. Thank you Bogdan Uleia (talk)

What's the big deal? --bender235 (talk) 14:44, 5 January 2017 (UTC)

Something wrong with the bot here[edit]

Your bot labeled both links as dead ([1]); however, I checked both links manually, and they still work. [2], [3] Fraenir (talk) 14:18, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot is not my bot. --bender235 (talk) 13:12, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Anonymous request[edit]

Hey i want to ask you a question — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Go ahead. --bender235 (talk) 16:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC) -
I found your article about Donald Trump to be very good and I enjoyed reading it however I noticed on the section where you talk about President Trump's cabinet you forgot to update it to say that Sonny Perdue is his designee to Secretary of Agriculture. Thanks for taking the time to read this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)
I don't remember writing anything about Trump's cabinet. --bender235 (talk) 13:56, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:ESPNRISE 2000s All-Decade boys basketball team[edit]

Ambox warning blue.svgTemplate:ESPNRISE 2000s All-Decade boys basketball team has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. –HTD 07:44, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Your BRFA[edit]

Hello Bender235, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Bender the Bot 6 has been approved. Happy editing, — xaosflux Talk 03:35, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Won't take long to finish. --bender235 (talk) 18:08, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

RfC Notice[edit]

There is a Request for Comment posted at Talk:New York Daily News#Request for Comment. You are being notified as one of every registered editor who has edited that article in that past year. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:57, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Strange bot behavior[edit]

I notice that Bender the Bot is adding external links to small village articles with no pre-existing "External link" section. I've checked a few of these links, all to Flickr, and they all return an error message saying that no such place as the village exists. Please see Nelson, Oregon, for example. This seems counterproductive to me, but I thought I'd check with you to ask whether you want the bot to be doing this. Finetooth (talk) 21:16, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

You mean this? The bot didn't add any link, it merely converted HTTP→HTTPS. Links that were dead before the conversion obviously are afterwards, too. It's beyond the purpose (and functionality) of this bot to check whether the links are still live. --bender235 (talk) 21:48, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I see that the Nelson problem originated with an edit in 2014. Definitely not the bot's fault. Finetooth (talk) 23:19, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Relevant content reverted St. Vincent (musician)[edit]

I think your call to revert === Guitar Builder: Anti-Sexist Innovator === its wrong. Can't see why you found the tone promotional as the edit is well referenced with relevant sources. All editors should engage in fighting the gender gap and preventing systemic bias in wikipedia and reverting relevant women-centred content is not precisely helping in my opinion. Please reflect on those issues before reverting relevant content and please undo the reversion. (((Liquen))) (talk) 22:49, 28 January 2017 (UTC)


I didn't revert anything. My bot's name was mentioned in the edit summary, that's all. --bender235 (talk) 23:31, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

February 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

Ruth Behar.jpg

February 2017

Black Women & Women Anthropologists online editathons
Faciliated by Women in Red

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(To subscribe, Women in Red/Invite list. Unsubscribe, Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Ipigott (talk) 14:34, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Not exactly a topic I'm familiar with. --bender235 (talk) 16:16, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Your BRFA[edit]

Your BRFA, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Bender the Bot 7 has been approved for an 1000 edit extended trial. — xaosflux Talk 20:12, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Alright, I'll report the results tomorrow. --bender235 (talk) 22:52, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

http vs https[edit]

Bgwhite (talk) 19:16, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Interesting. So the "but HTTPS is slower" argument is finally out of the window. --bender235 (talk) 04:43, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Your BRFA[edit]

Your BRFA, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Bender the Bot 7 has been approved - with an initial ramp up schedule - please see the BRFA for start up restrictions. Happy editing, — xaosflux Talk 16:34, 3 February 2017 (UTC)


Hi, Bender235. Can you please explain to me why you are changing URLs in the HTTP space to HTTPS? I can see a bunch of articles on your user page but nothing to explain your reasoning in your own words. Also I apologize in advance if I am misunderstanding. This edit struck me as unnecessary because The New York Times is accessible by HTTP. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:24, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Sure. In general, HTTPS is more secure but I guess the bot page already explains that. As for the New York Times in particular: last month they announced they will migrate their whole website to HTTPS. As of today some pages still bounce back to HTTP, but (a) this is temporary and (b) the HTTPS link still gives them some benefit even today, because HTTP Referer information is only passed from HTTPS to HTTPS, not HTTPS to HTTP (Wikipedia is HTTPS-only, as you probably know). So converting these links also gives them the additional information of where they are being link from (we had a request by not too long ago asking to convert their links for the same reason). --bender235 (talk) 15:54, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
That announcement is good enough for me. I restored your bot's edit. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:32, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Night of The Living Dead[edit]

I have deleted your edit from the Night of The Living Dead edit as it appears to be non-constructive. Neither the character Barbra, nor her brother Johnny are ever referred to by a surname and there is no listing for one in the credits, nor in the shooting script. (Sellpink (talk) 20:44, 11 February 2017 (UTC))

Fine with me. Just for the record: I didn't edit anything on that article. --bender235 (talk) 20:55, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Paul Thomas Anderson[edit]

Why did you remove my edit?? I quoted the source correctly and it's an interesting information! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:42, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

I did not remove your edit, User:TheOldJacobite did. --bender235 (talk) 17:14, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
What are we talking about? What edit did I remove? ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 17:20, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
You reverted's edit on Paul Thomas Anderson. --bender235 (talk) 19:01, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The Heart Beats[edit]

Any chance you could put the girls photo on the page? Jerry Burleson (talk) 01:39, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

What? --bender235 (talk) 02:30, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Josiah Vavasseur[edit]

Hi Bender235. Your bot has changed the link to New York Times in the Josiah Vavasseur article. The link worked before (on my screen), but it does not work now. Care to look into the matter and maybe revert your bot's action? Cheers --Rsteen (talk) 15:21, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

I'll look into it. --bender235 (talk) 15:31, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Antique Woodworking Tools[edit]

The New York Times link on this page ought to be prefixed with http and not https: New York Times article. If you key in https it reverts to http. There does not seem to be a need to have altered it. Can you shed light on the matter? Thank you Sedicesimo (talk) 16:25, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

As NYT announced, HTTPS support for their website will be gradually expanded. As of today, pre-2014 articles are redirected to HTTP. Still we should convert those links, because HTTP Referrer information is only passed from HTTPS to HTTPS, not HTTPS to HTTP. --bender235 (talk) 16:42, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
I see. Many thanks. Sedicesimo (talk) 17:49, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Bite my shiny metal HTTPS![edit]

Hehe, great work with this. Love seeing Bender crop up on my watchlist. Taking your username from a cartoon. I'd never do that. Lugnuts Precious bodily fluids 09:20, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I picked the name ages ago, now I'm stuck with it. Could've been worse. ;) --bender235 (talk) 13:43, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I think that replacing HTTP by HTTPS is an important work. Thanks for doing it.-- (talk) 11:30, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Alabama State Troopers[edit]

Hey Bender, just wanted to give you a heads up. I was helping my stepson recently with a report on the Alabama State Troopers and found your article very helpful. However, the picture of the badge you have is no longer the badge the troopers wear. I've included a link to the new badge but if the link is no good, it's not hard to find. It basically says the same thing it's just in the shape of the state of Alabama. Thanks, T.M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:13, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

I don't remember writing anything on Alabama State Troopers. --bender235 (talk) 16:03, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

Adam Stone[edit]

You need to tag the article on Adam Stone with the template from AfD, which I do not know a could way to transpose onto your talk page. I would do it but some people feel I have put too many of those on articles, so I will just try and make it so you know how. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion is a very helpful page, if at times intimadatingly long. I have been editing since 2006, but probably didn't nominate for deletion until 2010 at the earliest, maybe later than that. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page. I will try to help as best I can.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:58, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I guess putting the template here to show you what to do created a mess. I think I fixed it now. Sorry for any confusion.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:00, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't quite follow. --bender235 (talk) 02:14, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
He wants to let you know that, when proposing an article for deletion like you did here, you should follow WP:AFDHOW (which, btw, I as non-enwiki-native don’t understand sufficiently), especially asking you to add the notice template (which he first added here, because he forgot a nowiki tag) to the article.
@Johnpacklambert: Doesn’t seem to make a differene who adds this template (if there would be a difference, it’s just the username, which you can simply change), so you could add the template yourself, since you seem to know which one to place where :-) --nenntmichruhigip (Diskussion) 20:46, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I did add the AfD template. See version history. --bender235 (talk) 20:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Jabrill Peppers[edit]

Not sure why users keep reverting Jabrill Peppers' height. He's clearly not 6'1. Just because Michigan listed his height incorrectly, it does not make it a fact. Seems Wikipedia should be looking more to report the truth, than what's listed incorrectly on a college site. History shows they always fudge players' sizes. Peppers wasn't 6'1 at Michigan, and he's not 6'1 now... unless he miraculously shrank at the combine.Cdman882 (talk) 23:21, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not include what is true, but what is verified. If Michigan lists him as 6-1, we list him as 6-1 in his college football player infobox. The NFL will list him as 5-11, so we list him as 5-11 in his NFL player infobox. It's as simple as that. --bender235 (talk) 23:24, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Regardless, he is 5'11. Cdman882 (talk) 23:25, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
And that HAS been written about by reliable sources (aka verified). In other words, Michigan's bio is not a reliable source, as they are known to stretch the truth, as are most college sports programs. Cdman882 (talk) 23:28, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Again, no. We use college bio as sources for infobox height and weight. Simply to avoid this kind of nonsense. Just wait until the draft, then the NFL infobox will reflect the combine measurements. --bender235 (talk) 03:04, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
What nonsense? The truth? Or, in the case of Michigan's obvious failure to report it, the lack of truth. We're essentially quoting a piece of information for which we know is false. I played sports my whole life, college basketball, as a matter of fact, and I faced many players who were clearly misrepresented by their school bio. It's well known that they fudge the numbers. You see it at the NFL combine every year. I could understand not wanting to report personal research from every Tom, Dick, or Harry, but a piece of information from the NFL combine is well sourced. By putting up false information, you are stating that you believed that when he was in college at Michigan he was 6'1 and he has now shrunk to 5'11. They clearly didn't care to report the truth. The article should strive to have the truth. When a piece of information comes along that disproves what is on the article, it should be fixed, not adhere to some arbitrary "infobox." Cdman882 (talk) 05:03, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
90% of the players at the NFL Combine are measured different heights and/or weights than is reported on their college website. Still, we leave the college football player infobox untouched, because the data in there reflects the college website. We have always done so. Similarly, we have always used data to fill the NFL player infoboxes, even if they conflict with Combine measurements or any other "reliable" data. It's just a matter of convenience. --bender235 (talk) 14:30, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I guess it gives you something to look at. Even if it's not accurate. You've clearly spent more time looking at this than I have. Cdman882 (talk) 03:12, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
I have to hand it to you Bender235, you're very diligent in your reversion of those height/weight edits. I'm glad we have a crack guy like you on the case. Cdman882 (talk) 16:57, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm just going by the rules. --bender235 (talk) 17:13, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
I understand. Am I completely on board with the line of thinking? Not really. Though, I see where you're coming from. Cdman882 (talk) 18:15, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Request for Creating Page[edit]

Hi, Pertaining to the list of video games that you have created, I wish to create an article on a "1916: der Unbekannte Krieg", as listed therein. I don't really know whether or not I needed your permission (forgive me if I look stupid), so I had to ask. Thank you -- BulbAtop (talk) 13:46, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

I don't remember creating a list of video games, so I'm not sure which article you are referring to. In either case, you can always create a new article yourself. Anyone can. --bender235 (talk) 13:59, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

my advisors pge[edit]

Dude, why do you keep undoing my changes? These are legitimate changes that I am making to professor lists page. These exact same words are on many economists pages. Why re you targeting him? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:29, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Have a look at WP:PEACOCK. We do not need this puffery about Nobel Prize speculations etc. As for your own part in this charade, have a look at WP:AUTOBIO. What institution you work at right now, or where you about to place, has nothing to do with the John List article. --bender235 (talk) 15:17, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

I am back to write about my advisor. I have now researched many prominent economists pages and they are identical to my Professors in what they say. Check out Acemoglu, Laibson, Mankiw, etc. You are being rude and distasteful by deleting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:32, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Again, you still not understand how Wikipedia works. Your advisor's WP article is not an extension of your personal CV. We do not include unnecessary fluff like that Nobel Prize rumor just so you can feel better about yourself. --bender235 (talk) 15:37, 20 March 2017 (UTC)


Hey there, thanks for this task. One request: when the current run (Bloomberg, WSJ, etc) is over, can you do all the remaining outlets on the Secure The News list at once? Obviously the bot's successive https conversions are often to the same articles, and it's been a large presence in my watchlist for awhile now, it'd be great to minimize the disruption. Thanks again!— TAnthonyTalk 16:01, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Sure, I'll try to combine the tasks from now on. But you have to remember the "Secure The News" list is a moving target. --bender235 (talk) 16:11, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

issue with urls[edit]

i had to undo your edit on as it removed the online part witch is required for the url to work — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:00, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Well, actually the link is dead both ways. --bender235 (talk) 13:59, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Access Industries -- the bot seems to have killed the link by replacing 'online' with 'www'[edit]

See this bot edit of March 13 at Access Industries. The updated version of the page is here, and please note that the Ethan Smith reference (#1) is now a dead link. Unclear why changing '' to '' would always be a safe operation. The 'online' to 'www' change isn't mentioned in BRFA 8. I repaired the link manually in the latest version. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:01, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, true. I fixed that. --bender235 (talk) 16:32, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

YouTube failing WP:V[edit]

Hi Bender235, your bot reverted the ref I added about words said by Michael Greger during a talk. Wikipedia:YTCOPYRIGHT actually talks about YouTube and making sure that the cited material doesn't violate copyright. The RedBurn (ϕ) 18:17, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

My bot didn't revert anything. User:Alexbrn did. --bender235 (talk) 18:41, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, indeed, I read wrong. The RedBurn (ϕ) 08:43, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

WSJ links broken by your bot[edit]

WSJ links were broken by your bot's edit, see Talk:Samsung#Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2017. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:05, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Werner Maihofer[edit]

Hello Bender235. I see that you added some short info back in 2009 about this former deutsche minister as a speed skater but I can't seem to find any speed skating results for him. Do you know of any such thing ? Best regards Migrant (talk) 15:31, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello again. If my sources are correct (see page 246) it looks like he was part of the figure skating squad for the same olympics mentioned, but did not participate with results in the 1936 Winter Olympics in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, or do you have other sources ? Best regards Migrant (talk) 16:42, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Well, the source the information came from I added. --bender235 (talk) 16:46, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Ali-Illahism[edit]


An article that you have been involved in editing—Ali-Illahism—has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. MiguelMadeira (talk) 22:58, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

--MiguelMadeira (talk) 22:58, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

"Nader El-Bizri" article for your attention![edit]

Dear Bender235, based on your technical knowledge and your role as a Grand Master editor with knowledge in philosophy, I wanted to bring an urgent matter to your attention: It seems that I caused some confusions around the Wikipedia entry "Nader El-Bizri" when I first un-did an edit with tags and then contacted the Wikipedia NoticeBoard & Miscellaneous Queries about it without knowing that a casual editor like me should not do so! Tags were placed on the entry and even some suggested that it should be deleted altogether, or that it was copied from the website of a school in Lebanon even though this Wikipedia entry dates back to 2008, and it is clear that it was Mirrored by the school and not the other way round. Some editors might have acted in haste but with the good intention of protecting the entry from vandalism. This Wikipedia article received over 359 edits since 2008, and it has numerous links across Wikipedia and to many reputable external websites as well. I am just bringing this to your attention since maybe my unintentional confusions with my casual edits caused all of these editorial issues, and I do not want that my casual edits result in harm to the reputation of the actual living person who is covered by the article, and who based on the various Google searches has a broad public persona of notability. I have been dismissed by the editors who hold usernames since I am not registered via Wikipedia and I only casually edit here and there when I can. I hope you do not mind me bringing this matter to your attention... I have understood now that as a casual editor I am not allowed to make edits or contribute as such to talk pages unless I am fully registered with Wikipedia (or at least this is what has been conveyed to me through the talk pages by some users). Thank you for your consideration of this matter since I feel partly responsible for some of this editorial confusion and I feel I should not longer make edits... Thank you 2A02:C7D:36C6:8300:DCDF:6069:402F:B06 (talk) 20:10, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Request for help[edit]

Bender, I see that in the past you have helped with the Ellis Paul article. I am trying to resolve a dispute regarding the article and am hoping you will lend support on the Talk:Ellis Paul page by offering a Third Party Opinion. In a nutshell, another editor removed a sound sample box that has been part of the article for 10 years. I would like to have a consensus to be able to add the sound sample back. I would appreciate your support. Thank you for your time and consideration. Kmzundel (talk) 11:59, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Todd Heap[edit]

I would change the information you added on Todd Heap to,say he has five children and then explain that one is deceased. Just because the child tragically died yesterday doesn't mean they now only have four children. They will always have five children. Please change this. Gkuche (talk) 18:50, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

The only thing I changed was adding his high school to the player infobox. I did not changed any family information. --bender235 (talk) 19:19, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

if you changed the page to what you think it should be then why are you keeping the coi? makes no sense[edit]

if you changed the page to what you think it should be then why are you keeping the coi? makes no sense — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:51, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

There's still too much puffery and peacockery in that article. --bender235 (talk) 16:29, 16 April 2017 (UTC)