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Bosniakophobia article

Hi BigHaz, yes, I said it once, but I wanted to give more detailed explanation second time, so I think my opinion should also be taken into consideration both at Bosniakophobia Srbophobia talk page. Thank you.Bosniak 07:07, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


Why did you take my vote? Why did you cross "delete" two times? This way you censored my vote not once, but twice ! I will complain to other admin's for your clearly illegal behaviour! Bosniak 07:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Context Note: The discussion here refers to the user's comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bosniakophobia. He had posted a bolded "Do not delete" on three separate occasions, and I struck two of them out for the sake of clarity when the AfD was going to be closed. He still has one of his three "votes" (inasmuch as they are in fact votes), which is as many as everyone else involved. The "more detailed explanation" to which he refers isn't in fact present, as it is in fact roughly 50% of a longer explanation that he had already posted. Again, in the interests of clarity, I struck this out. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 07:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


Concerning your comments on my TalkPage, now that you gave enought explanation, fair enough. Although I wish you somehow merged all comments together instead of crossing them, but anyways. I see that Serbs are winning against nomination of Bosniakophobia as an article @ Wikipedia. What Serbs did BigHaz, and you need to understand this from factual and fair view of perspective, they (Serbs) invented word "Serbophobia", then nominated her on Wikipedia, and other Serbs came and voted "YES! Keep it!" and now thousands of "wikipedia scrapper pages" are basicly spreading this word as a cancer over the internet. So, let's delete both Bosniakophobia and Serbophobia, because NONE of these words is in English dictionary ! So why keep Serbophobia? Why? Please tell me your reasoning. Please! Thanks. Bosniak 07:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I would have merged the comments if there'd been anything to merge. As it was, one comment was a duplicate of the other, which meant that there was precisely nothing which could gainfully have been merged. In terms of Serbophobia, you'll note that I have not expressed any opinion at all in that AfD (even I have my limits when it comes to the murky world of Balkan ethnic politics). However, I will investigate the matter further, since you've asked. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 07:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Contextual Postscript: Having looked into the murky world of Balkan ethnic politics slightly further in the interests of making sure that I wasn't shooting off my mouth about something that multiple people were doing, I noticed at the Serbophobia AfD that the above user had in fact done much the same thing that he'd done at the Bosniakophobia discussion - although with the opposite intention. I repeated the process of striking the duplicate "delete" votes. One of the delete votes had a relatively long and potentially important rationale attached, so I didn't strike it. Of course, anything that's struck out is still patently visible to a closing admin or contributing user, and more legible via the editing screen if legibility is a problem. One of these days I'm going to have to make good my promise to myself of learning Serbo-Croatian. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 12:20, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Lakes United

I have added information to the article in an effort to establish notability. I would be grateful if you could take a look. Capitalistroadster 08:53, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Done and done - complete with my position altering. Not being a Rugby League fan of any note, I'd taken the assumption that what looked like a local team in its initial incarnation as an article probably was. Now I see that it's a team responsible for a couple of important careers launching. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)


Many thanks for your kind help! Mikebe 11:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for offering to help resolve the "teaching certificate" controversy. Note that I'm not against short certificate courses per se, but they are too often marketed by exaggerated claims that you really need one to find a job teaching English abroad. That certainly isn't true in Italy or Albania where I have a lot of personal experience, and I suspect it isn't true in other countries either. I suspect that some sites selling certificate courses even publish ficticious want ads for teachers in order to sell certificates. They are turning the web into a den of thieves. Merging my article with "Teaching English as a Foreign Language" would make it easier for certificate sellers to monitor and censor my writing, as well as make it harder for me to keep up with their extensive discussions. Their article is already too big. Let me know if need any more info. and thanks again. Omadaf2 16:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Currently, I don't see where the problem is. I agree that the general TEFL community may well be infested with advertising promoting this and that course, but I don't see that in the article itself. The only mention of certificates and qualifications is right at the beginning, talking about some of the more popular ones to have. Whereabouts in the article (or the external links section) are these courses being advertised and false claims being made? BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Teaching Certificate Scams Here are some quotes from the "Teaching English as a Foreign Language" article. “The basic qualification” is a “TESL or TEFL certificate” Blatant advertising and meaningless other than expressing “The ones you should buy, see our external links for easy ordering”

“the two most commonly recognized certificates” are the UCLES CELTA and the Trinity CertTESOL Unverifiable and blatant advertising.

“The typical” (unverifiable) U.S. qualification is a TESOL “although many shorter certificates exist” Irrelevant Who cares if shorter certificates exist unless this is a shopping guide?

“Schools willing to take untrained staff typically run short courses” Unverifiable How common are schools that force teachers to pay for training? VERY common only on the sites that sell certificate courses.

“More Information on the TEFL Profession” Links are Blatant advertising If your site steers visitors to buy certificate courses, advertise here. Any links to sites that question the value of short certificate courses will be quickly deleted.

Genuine want ads for teachers in the international press rarely mention certificates as preferred, let alone required, but on the sites that sell such courses the percentage of ads shoots up amazingly. Attempt to contact those "employers" to confirm the ads and you receive no reply. I wonder why. Omadaf2 15:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, now I see what we're on about here. Here are my thoughts on the phrases you've cited:
  • "The basic qualification": You may well be right here, although in my own experience there are fewer places which are interested in you without a certificate of some kind than there are who like you with one. I don't see any advertising in the external links section, though. Yes, they all tend to have the acronym TEFL (which I understand to be both the title of a certificate and the acronym for the act itself), but none of them are actually promoting a course that I can see.
  • "The two most commonly recognised certificates": I disagree that this is unverifiable. Surely it's possible to look into legitimate employers and see what qualifications they want? Obviously without any practical experience in the field, I can't be sure, but the article on the CertTESOL says that both it and the CELTA are recognised by the British Council, which confers a level of prestige. In terms of the advertising side of things, it only reads like advertising to me in the sense that an article on any product could be construed as advertising. It makes a statement about the certificates, yes, but it doesn't say that they're the "only" ways to get in or anything like that.
  • "The typical US qualification": Again, this can be verified. Simply round up a series of bright-eyed young TELF types in the states and ask what qualifications they have. The fact that shorter courses exist is a statement, not an advert - the sentence doesn't read "shorter certificates exist at these links", it simply says that there are other certificates and things available.
  • "Schools willing to take untrained staff": I really couldn't speculate about how common they are, but there's no discussion of how common they are in the article. What it says is that if there is a school which is willing to take untrained staff, then it will typically do the following. I'm sure there must be schools out there willing to take untrained staff, so again it can be verified.
  • The "more information" links strike me more as places which have links to sign up for courses, rather than "sign up for courses here" stuff. There have certainly been very commercial links on the page beforehand, but the worst of them are gone at the very least, if not all of them.
  • Looking at the link that you've added (to the interview with you), what seems to be the case is that your experience has been different to that of other people. The thing is, though, that an encyclopedia is about the generality of human experience, rather than how something was for one person. If you can find more sources than just your own interview (and very possibly about more than just Italy) saying that certificates aren't all they're cracked up to be, then you might be onto something. As it currently stands, it really does look as if your experiences have resulted in you adding your POV to the article. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Did you know?

Updated DYK query On 30 November, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article La Coco-Dance, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--GeeJo (t)(c) • 08:50, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Arabic Music

Hi BigHaz, i see that you are involved in editing Samira and Nawal's article. Whenever you'd have time, could you please have a look at Arabic music which i 'm trying to rewrite? I'll be helping at Samira's one as well. Cheers -- Szvest Ω Wiki Me Up ® 09:11, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure thing, mate. I'll have a look right now if you want (I've done my bit on Samira's article, so you can do what you want without me stepping on your toes). BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


Sorry for the mistagged article [1]. Good edits are things of which a half-awake editor like myself, does not make... -WarthogDemon 09:33, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem at all. It would've been deleted anyway, I'd imagine, but this was just in case someone decided to have a bit of fun. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Christine L. Borgman

You suggested the article on Christine L. Borgman be deleted, for reasons I'm still not sure why. She is the thrid most highly cited scholar in her field of all time - or at least since ISI has been gathering data on the most highly cited scholars. She's extremely well known in numerous fields, including information studies, communication, and computer science. I was surprised there wasn't already an article about her in Wikipedia.

Really? My first port of call was the online journal database at my university and the only thing I could find was a review of one of her works. Still, if she's in a field which does more book-publishing than article-publishing, that might be the reason. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:44, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The irony here is that Borgman has helped create the theories and research that provided for library databases, perhaps even the database you searched. I wonder, however, if your school subscribes to information studies databases. They're kind of expenseive, and many libraries opt out because of cost.
You may well be right. Still, looking at her faculty page, she seems to be one of the very few academics I've ever seen who doesn't have a list covering 75% of the page with every word they've ever written. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 10:34, 30 November 2006 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 1 December, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bitaqat Khub, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

(on behalf of Sandstein) BigHaz - Schreit mich an 07:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the DYK (I will also send one to Sandstein)

Thank you for the DYK on the Food Technology (magazine) article. I greatly appreciated it. Chris 14:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Withdrawing AfD nominations

Just so you know, the traditional way to do this is to post on the AfD's discussion that you're withdrawing it. Someone will then be along to close the AfD properly. Blanking the page and db-empty'ing has a similar effect, but it mucks up the records and so on. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Noted. Thanks for fixing it. here 01:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem at all. Pleasure to have helped. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 3 December, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article De Vogels Van Holland, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

---- tariqabjotu 00:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Updated DYK query On December 4, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Laurent Nkunda, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

For the sake of context, I only suggested the "hook" that appeared on the main page. The work of writing the article on Gen. Nkunda was undertaken by editors specialising in the region. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Updated DYK query On November 11, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article I See A Star, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Hey BigHaz - great work. Yeah, sometimes I forget the nom bit....Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Sheikh al-Hilali

Sheikh al-Hilali I never nominated Sheikh al-Hilali for deletion... I'm not sure who did but your re-direction solves the problem. --PeterMarkSmith 02:41, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

This is a strange situation, since the user above is marked as having created the AfD page. I'm not quite sure who went and nominated it, but at least it's all fixed up now anyway. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:25, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Redirect of Amr Khaled

Thank you for your effort.

--Meno25 11:10, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

There are high supports of keeping عمرو خالد as redirect page. Should I close a debate? --Gh87 23:26, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
I read your reply, and here's the thing: {{rfd top}} and {{rfd bottom}} are to close a debate with it inbetween. Rather than typing both templates, type in {{subst:rfd top}} and {{subst:rfd bottom}} with a whole discussion inbetween. For more guidance, look at Wikipedia:Deletion process and Wikipedia:speedy keep, and see what you can do. --Gh87 07:01, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
For context, it should be noted that my reply had nothing to do with the mechanics of the actual closing of the debate. It was merely a reflection that I did not believe that 2 opinions of "keep" constituted consensus (although I'm much less familiar with the numbers of people who contribute to an RfD discussion than I am where AfD is concerned). Thus, I suggested that the user might want to be circumspect about the closure itself. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 09:18, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Italian songs

Bye. I see that you generally occupy of individual songs here. Well, Italian titles should be ALL without capitals (aside from personal names, of course), differently from English ones. Say, "Nel Blu Dipinto di Blu" is wrong, while the original is "Nel blu dipinto di blu". Also, song in Wikipedia must be between "..." tweaks. Bye and good work. --Attilios 22:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Righto. I'll make the relevant changes when next I'm up to no good. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 03:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


How was it? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely wonderful, in short. It was one of those wonderful occasions where pretty much everything we'd been recommended to do/see/eat/etc more than lived up to expectations. Now to recover from ye olde jetlag and get started on the remaining old ESC entries.

As a quick thought, by the by, I'm planning to hold off on creating articles for the confirmed national final winners until after they're actually performed at the contest itself. That way, we'll avoid any possible charge of Crystal Balling ("this will be the first time that X has done Y in Eurovision history") and should also end up with a more stable end product - free of fans saying that a song should do well before it tanks in the semi and also free of the need to change titles/artist details, as of course would have been the case in at least three cases last year. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 04:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Saudis and Yemenis


I'm not sure if you've got access to Dresch's work which I cited in the AfD on the Saudi-Yemeni war - or even whether the online sources are superior to it, since I haven't yet had the time to check them through - but if you need any citations from it, just drop me a line and I'll be happy to footnote away. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 07:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Thank you for your offer. I will see what can be done with the online sources noted in the AfD and any others I might find, but I think it is appropriate to mention the book at least in a further readings section if not as a direct source for the text. Wenn Sie es mögen, kann ich Sie informieren sobald ich mit der Erweiterung des Artikels fertig bin so dass Sie es durchsehen können. My German's a little rusty, so I'm not sure if that's wholly correct Nochmals danke, Black Falcon 07:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Not a problem at all. There's precious little in the book - which is more of an irritation than the definitive history I'd hoped it would be when I bought it - but I'll do what I can when needed. Don't worry about the German, it made sense enough :P BigHaz - Schreit mich an 08:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a bit more information in the article now (most of it added by User:Dhartung and some by myself). I can't think of anything particular that should be sourced from the book--maybe you could add some details on the fighting (p. 34-5) if any is really presented. I will probably get some books from the local library the next time I go (in a few days) so that I can expand this article and maybe create 1-2 others that are currently missing. Maybe you could check whether the book mentions whether Jizan Province was in dispute along with 'Asir and Najran Province. Thanks, Black Falcon 23:37, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Will do. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 00:27, 3 February 2007 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 7 February, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vrede (song), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Yomanganitalk 10:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)


Yes, it probably ought to be changed throughout the article (except for the version with diacritics at the beginning, that can be left as a sop to the pedants). Given that I have no doubt caused yet another argument by moving the page I'd better lend you a hand. Sikandarji 08:04, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Romeo (song), was selected for DYK!

Updated DYK query On February 22, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Romeo (song), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 23:58, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


Aye aye captain! just found out about it today and wanted to get something in it ;p Sorry if i offended you. M3tal H3ad 11:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Not at all. Good to see there's another keen contributor out there. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Lunchtime soccer

You said in your policies on schools "My university is notable, it's big, important and old and has a lot of important people associated with it. My high school is notable because it has two famous people associated with it as well as having been in the media for less savoury reasons. My primary school may well be notable because I seem to recall learning that some famous people went to it, but if they didn't it would need another claim to fame. If it didn't have another claim to fame, it wouldn't be worth writing an article on it." I interperet this to mean that schools which have a claim to fame are notable. However you say that my school, which has many claims to fame, is not notable. Is this not contradictory, the very thing that you and the people you agree with have tried to catch me out on in the discussion on Lunchtime soccer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jensen 198 (talkcontribs) 05:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

There are two misconceptions in your comments. Firstly, the quotes which you cite are from my "philosophy" page. They are not guidelines or policies, but merely my own thoughts on what notability is and is not as it relates to schools. There are periodic attempts to create a more coherent policy on when a school is notable and when it is not (I think WP:SCHOOLS3 is the most recent one), and much of that section needs to be viewed in that light.
Secondly, at no point am I questioning the notability of your school. Indeed, the fact that it has an article would suggest that nobody is questioning the notability of your school. What I am questioning, however, is the notability of the game which you and some of your friends at the school play in your lunchtimes. The comparison to my university or my high school is thus an unfounded one. If I were to create and/or defend the inclusion of a club which my friends founded at my high school or something along those lines, that would be contradictory to what I'm saying at the AfD for your article.
As I have said to other users, the President of the United States is a notable person, that's not in question. However, just because he's notable, there's no automatic notability for what he ate for breakfast yesterday morning or the contents of his iPod. Likewise, you attend a notable school, but there's no automatic notability for the games you play there or the teachers who work there. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:40, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

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