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Hi! Comment away! Billbrock 01:38, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Where is this work[edit]

I've read a little of Fourier. I realize, the citation is for "Goldstein, Leslie F. (1982). 'Early Feminist Themes in French Utopian Socialism: The St.-Simonians and Fourier'. Journal of the History of Ideas.", but it seems like such a curiously random blip of information considering how tenuous a distinction from Fourier's brand of socialism was from what Feminism endorses. Not to mention that Fourier thought the women's revolution would be swift and corrective. I still haven't found the work that features the coined term, how did find out about this originally? It's really so unfortunate how few of the theorists works have been translated. I don't know what the JSTOR article says, but I don't really trust its usefulness enough to this goal to invest in it, without need. I was hoping you could assist me in the endeavor of locating this work of Fourier's. (talk) 01:17, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Good question! I remember my frustration trying to track the primary source down. May have been a random essay that did not make it into the 12-vol. Oeuvres complètes. I have been out of academia for 20+ years and trashed my research notes long ago.

Fourier's economic critique is in part a critique of the vestiges of patriarchal society (feudalism); his antisemitism & anticlericalism are in part a reaction to patriarchal religious forms. Too lazy to look up the primary source, but see

"As a general thesis: Social progress and historic changes occur by virtue of the progress of women toward liberty, and decadence of the social order occurs as the result of a decrease in the liberty of women."

"Other events influence these political changes, but there is no cause that produces social progress or decline as rapidly as change in the condition of women. I have already said that the mere adoption of closed harems would speedily turn us into Barbarians, and the mere opening of the harems would suffice to transport the Barbarians into Civilization. In summary, the extension of women's privileges is the general principle for all social progress."

Hope this helps. Billbrock (talk) 21:03, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

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