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A tag has been placed on Elyard requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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I removed the speedy deletion nomination, as the player clear meets the WP Cricket's notability criteria. JH (talk page) 18:28, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. He definitely played a first-class match. --Jack | ^{talk page} 16:33, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks. Corrected. Jack | ^{talk page} 11:18, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Bowes

Not a problem; that to-do list is largely bollocks anyway, and I don't particularly work from it. I might be able to help a bit though, as I have a copy of his (pretty marvellous) autobiography. There was also a nice article in one of the recent Yorkshire CCC yearbooks, and if you have that Gentlemen and Players book, Bowes is in there a lot. If not, ping me for anything I can get for you. It would be nice to go for GA/FA with it. Also, when I worked on Leyland, I used quite a few of the Wisden summaries to avoid getting long lists of stats; Johnlp has the required volumes if you want to go down this road. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:41, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

And to be fair, "Sir" hasn't been quite as horrible as I'd expected (although I'm a long way from being a fan), even accounting for Swanton's hagiography. In my book, Walter Robins was far, far worse. Although there was a bit of antagonism between Allen and Yorkshire, I think, particularly with Bowes. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:44, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

And I see you have the Bowes autobiography, so ignore that one! (Although mine is signed!) Sarastro1 (talk) 20:45, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Marshall, actually. See Allen's bibliography if you want details. I can recommend it; it's quite gossipy and lacking on specifics, but worth reading and pulls few punches. Sarastro1 (talk) 20:50, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

Bandy merger

I propose to merge List of bandy clubs in the United States, American Bandy Association, and American Bandy League into a new article titled, Bandy in the United States. These three articles are all short, with a significant amount of overlap. A single article could include all of the information contained in those three, and present a more robust and better organized view of the topic. Please discuss this proposal at Talk:List of bandy clubs in the United States. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:14, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

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All fixed. Jack | ^{talk page} 17:41, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

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Both done. Didn't know there are THREE Hobokens! Jack | ^{talk page} 09:57, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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Fixed. Jack | ^{talk page} 12:54, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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Nomination of Young (MCC cricketer) for deletion

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Category 1909 in Ceylon

I happened to notice that you've added the category "1909 in Ceylon" to an article. Unfortunately that category doesn't appear to exist. I don't know whether "1909 in Sri Lanka" exists as an alternative, even though Ceylon wouldn't be renamed Sri Lanka for another 60 or 70 years. JH (talk page) 20:27, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'm trying to clarify the history of tours in Ceylon and Sri Lanka which is a bit of a mess. I'm working on tours in all other countries too and a few are now completed. With these ccyy in country categories, the series tend to be incomplete with the missing years awaiting an article that uses them so I need to create this 1909 one along with several others. The switchover from Ceylon to Sri Lanka is in about 1971, I think. Jack | ^{talk page} 18:59, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Copy-paste move

Hi! I'm sure you know that copy-and-paste isn't the way to move an article. I've reversed what you did at History of cricket in Bangladesh and asked for (another!) history merge. If you want to move it to a different title, requested moves is probably the way to go. This clumsily-written note is instead of the template customary in these cases. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:55, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I know. The problem was the copyvio investigation and the need to preserve the good content. But I'm happy to have the original article restored without the bad content. Thanks. Jack | ^{talk page} 18:53, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

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Done. Jack | ^{talk page} 09:08, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

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Done. Jack | ^{talk page} 09:53, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

No, I'm Spartacus...

I saw. Very droll. I'm getting very confused who I really am, as there was another edit earlier this year that bracketed me with some quite different characters. Ho hum. Johnlp (talk) 12:07, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

ANI

I'm a bit red-faced, for having failed (along with anyone else, I think) to notify you about the ANI case. However, it didn't take long to figure out what the complainant was up to. The funny thing about sockpuppets and block-evaders is that they often seem to think they're the first ones who ever tried it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 12:42, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

That's certainly true of this one. Repeatedly. No need to apologise as I was keeping tabs on the IP contribs in case he attacked anyone else. All the best. Jack | ^{talk page} 12:44, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

West Indies

Hi Jack. Great work on all the tour articles. Just one question: surely tours of the West Indies should be titled "Team X in the West Indies in YYYY", rather than simply "Team X in West Indies in YYYY"? Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 12:55, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jenks. Actually, I agree but there was a consensus years ago. I know why. It's because CricketArchive uses titles like "New Zealand in West Indies 2014" and it was thought we should comply with that. If you like, we could take it up at CRIC. What do you think? Jack | ^{talk page} 13:19, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Ah, OK. Thought it might be something like that. Worth taking up at CRIC I think, "in West Indies" just looks so jarring to me. Jenks24 (talk) 13:28, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for starting the discussion. Jenks24 (talk) 16:33, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

No problem, Jenks. Jack | ^{talk page} 08:08, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: Want a good laugh?

Hello me! Yes, I also shouldn't be talking to myself!!! You would really hope people would have better things to be doing with their time, instead of obsessing over you and I and our contributions. I can only imagine this Daft creature is a rather lonesome character. Amusingly, he claims to be watching the Scheldt from his window... yet his IP is coming up near Kidderminster. I think our Daft friend might have gotten himself lost, or confused... either or! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 18:26, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

He claims to be a solicitor and yet he cannot differentiate between a threat, which of necessity pertains to a potential FUTURE action, and a report, in this case information about a PAST action which has probably been done already. Well, I see I have just received his "last-ever message" to me (and he "means it") so I must now face the future without his invaluable guidance and mentoring. How will I cope? As Winston Churchill said, I will just have to KBO, I suppose.

After another short trip to SPI, of course, and this time a request for CU as apparently he has a whole battalion of trolls under his command. You've seen it all before.

Anyway, I've noticed all the categorisation work you've done lately as it has touched on many of the 18th century players and this is good stuff as I think the system needs better and more thorough categorisation as an aid to reader navigation. I've been trying to tie up loose ends and repair categorisation in the international tour articles; working on West Indies at the moment.

All the best. Jack | ^{talk page} 08:31, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, he left me a most romantic "parting" comment. I though the way he was obsessing he would ask me on a date, alas it's not to be! I do like this though, his comment to you where he says, "As you could not resist more offensive remarks we leave with a list of crimes...". And he claims you have multiple personalities! Who are "we"?

I finally got through MCC category, which took an age and compiled a list of fc MCC cricketers who don't have an article... just 839 players outstanding! I'll try and set up some categories for the early "J Blogs XI" teams. I also have a list of English first-class teams here, but am at a loss of a quick way to find out total matches played, won and lost and overall win/loss %. Liking your tour work, very thorough! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 23:02, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I've always found MCC a daunting prospect and not surprised there are so many, especially in the 19th century. I believe we do have articles or stubs about all players up to the early 1830s. Without those, I think your figure would be well over the thousand. I'll keep an eye on the list and see if I can help at some stage but I'll have to finish all the tours first now I've started. For the first-class win/loss stats, you could try the ACS via their website as they just might have something like that. They probably would welcome the enquiry and try to assist. All the best. Jack | ^{talk page} 05:00, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

It was quite interesting, found many who we had done as "J. Smith" who I managed to find their full names and a bit about them, one of them was a Norfolk MP and merchant. Those who say nothing will ever be discovered about them are talking nonsense. On the subject of our Daft friend, it seems his socks are coming out of the drawer. Amusingly he doesn't seem to understand an IP will geolocate him to a rough area... he's not in Belgium or wherever it was he said he is! He's as successful a troll as Cook is a captain! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 19:11, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Exactly. There's always the possibility of finding more information somewhere and it makes complete sense to have a stub set up so that the information can be added in due course. With players, as long as we can confirm he played in a first-class match that is enough for a stub. We must have a lot of these "gentlemen" cricketers who have turned out to be notable in another sphere. I remember one a while back, Methuen or something, and it turned out he already had an article as a politician or whatever.

I think Cook has to go now but the problem is who will take over? Probably Bell, but has he done any captaincy? Maybe they'll have to think back to Mike Brearley and pick someone just as a captain. Andrew Gale, possibly? Jack | ^{talk page} 19:29, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

It's like Welsh (MCC cricketer) who is Richard Welch (cricketer), or A. Buller who is Anthony Buller (MP). If we didn't have these stubs this probably would have been neglected to have been discovered. Setting the inclusion guideline at one fc appearance is practical and very simple! Personally I think the whole Cook/Moores/Downton "experiment" is an abject failure and those three, along with Giles Clarke should resign in shame at the awful team they have produced. I can't see an obvious replacement for captain, this seasons best in the Championship is an Irishman! Pietersen must return, but won't with the clowns in charge of the circus. Oddly Bell averaged 44 with him in the team and 26 with him out of the team. Madness! Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 19:39, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

They'll have to persuade Andrew Strauss out of retirement at this rate but you're right that Moores, Downton and Clarke have failed miserably. Can't see them lasting till lunchtime tomorrow in this Test. Jack | ^{talk page} 19:54, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Strauss is part of the problem, Cook was influenced by his useless characterless captaincy. It's a shame Dimitri Mascarenhas was never a Test cricketer, he had Warne's addiction to playing to win, even if it meant losing. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 20:55, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

All told, we're right back to the problems we had in the eighties and nineties when those "experts" on Sky were playing. We need a Mike Gatting / Ray Illingworth type if there is one out there. Jack | ^{talk page} 05:28, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Jenks have protected the pages. Well they made it past lunch... but that was about it. Shocking shots! But captain useless wants to stay on. Of course he no doubt believes himself to be above criticism and part of the Moores/Downton club. As long as the dressing room is happy and there's no whistling! How a certain Mr Pietersen must be laughing to himself. Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 18:10, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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Done. Jack | ^{talk page} 08:57, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

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Done. Jack | ^{talk page} 05:55, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

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Done. Jack | ^{talk page} 10:03, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

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Room for improvement

Hello Jack. I've finally pieced together more or less the stats for every English first-class team. However, in the prose for the list I'm stuggling with sources a little. I don't have the sources at hand to source the expansion of first-class cricket in the main body of writing and wondered whether you would be able to help if you have any written sources which document from Hambledon to Lord's, personal XI's to early county sides, town clubs, formal county matches ect. I've started a little bit here, any help would be appreciated :) Howzat?Out!Out!Out! (talk) 12:38, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

@AssociateAffiliate:. Hi AA. First of all, apologies for the long delay in replying. I was on holiday in August when you wrote to me and since then I've been incredibly busy with no time at all for the internet. Well, not for leisure; plenty of development work as I'm helping two members of my family to set up a new business and I'm designing a website for them. Great fun.

For the pre-Wisden period from 1772 to 1863, the best book sources are Arthur Haygarth's Scores and Biographies, G. B. Buckley's two Fresh Light works and the books by F. S. Ashley-Cooper and H. T. Waghorn. However, they don't provide team summaries if that is what you need. You would find scorecards of the vast majority of matches now rated first-class in them, of course. Please note that with Waghorn in particular, care needs to be taken re dating errors and the like. Can you let me know of specific needs such as page numbers for matches played by a certain team and I'll do what I can to assist. Jack | ^{talk page} 17:58, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Bank War

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@36hourblock: Hi, 36hourblock. I really must apologise but I've been away from the site for nearly two months. First on holiday and then incredibly busy in both the personal and professional spheres. I did have an initial read of it just before I went on holiday and it is very interesting; and new to me as I don't know very much about Jackson's presidency (except he was called Black Jack like me: LOL!). I will try and get on with it. Thanks very much. Jack | ^{talk page} 17:42, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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@Vensatry:Thank you very much, Vensatry. I do my best but there are plenty of others who do better. Still, the project is coming along and we can all feel pride in a job well done so far, but with a long way yet to go. All the best. Jack | ^{talk page} 17:37, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Jack, I've enabled my email and would be most interested in seeing what the ACS have to say about Daft. I've not been very active of late, been training a lot for an upcoming Tough Mudder event in March. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 19:19, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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Blackjack, you opened this review over two months ago, and it has been sitting ever since. Please let me know whether you plan to do the review or not (and very soon, if so), or whether it should be put back into the reviewing pool. You could even have the review page deleted if you don't plan to conduct the review. Thanks for your prompt response. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:20, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: Hi, BlueMoonset. Per my reply above to 36hourblock, I really must apologise but I was away from the site for nearly two months from August till a week ago (first on holiday and then incredibly busy in both the personal and professional spheres). I do intend to review the article and have had an initial read of it. I will try and get on with it in the next week. Thanks very much. Jack | ^{talk page} 06:58, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for letting me know. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:21, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

John Brocklebank...

...already has an article. He was also in the 1939-40 touring party selected for the India tour, BTW. Cheers. Johnlp (talk) 22:24, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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All done. Jack | ^{talk page} 14:08, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

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Francis Parr...

= Frank Parr (musician). One of the livelier Lancastrian cricketers. KR. Johnlp (talk) 19:55, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

@Johnlp: Thanks, John. I'll put mine into speedy delete. I'll admit that Lancashire is famous for its musicians. :-) All the best. Jack | ^{talk page} 19:58, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

John McMahon (cricketer) was another now-largely-forgotten cricketer of that era whose experiences with alcohol provided entertainment. Not Lancastrian, though... Johnlp (talk) 20:10, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

@Johnlp: Definitely a character. I love the POW-loop trick. LOL. Jack | ^{talk page} 20:15, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Just spotted this discussion. Frank Parr (musician) is one of mine. When I read his obituary in the Telegraph a couple of years ago, he was such an interesting character that I couldn't resist creating the article. :) At present it relies over-heavily on that obituary, so if you have some alternative sources they'd be a welcome addition to the article. When deciding what to call it, I felt that he was more notable as a musician than as a cricketer. JH (talk page) 20:37, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

@Jhall1:I'm afraid I know little of him, John. My article was only a brief stub to introduce him along with other Lancashire players. I agree with you that he should be remembered as a musician. All the best. Jack | ^{talk page} 20:48, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

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Done. Jack | ^{talk page} 20:14, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

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Done. Jack | ^{talk page} 19:00, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

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All done. Jack | ^{talk page} 20:12, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Help Please

Hello BlackJack, The pages Twenty20 cricket and Twenty20 International cricket have been moved to Twenty20 and Twenty20 International. So I'm assuming that just "Twenty20" and "Twenty20 International" are the standard terms used. Also the page List of Twenty20 International records does not have the word cricket in it. I created a page named List of Twenty20 International matches played by Nepal and another author also created a page for the same purpose later on with the word 'cricket' added to it (List of Twenty20 International cricket matches played by Nepal). Earlier, I moved a page named List of Twenty20 cricket matches played by Nepal‎ to List of Twenty20 matches played by Nepal‎. But the author who created the page moved back the page saying "Non cricket watching viewers wouldn't understand what the page is about by just looking at the previous title." I thought that didn't make sense as non-cricket viewers wouldn't be interested in looking at the list of matches a cricket team has played. And at the moment both pages exist. I don't think it's a good idea to have two similar pages for the same purpose. I'm wondering which is generally accepted that's why I'm asking for your help. I also asked an expert, who have been editing cricket related articles since very long time, regarding the matter. The author also believes that the consensus would be that the pages without the word cricket is correct. Please have a look at them, and delete one of those pages or do what you think would be suitable. Cricshady (talk) 05:31, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

@Cricshady:Sorry about the delay in replying, but I haven't been on the site for several days. I'm afraid I can't do anything directly as a move would not work and a merger is subject to consensus via discussion. The correct procedure is to go via WP:AFD and request either that the second article is deleted or that it is merged into the first. If you do that, please let me know and also post a notice on WT:CRIC. I agree with you and will support your motion. Thanks. Jack | ^{talk page} 20:11, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I've created a discussion in the talk pages of both the articles. Please consider giving your opinion in the discussion here and here. As you suggested, I have also mentioned about the discussion on WT:CRIC. Is it enough or something else needs to be done? If something more is need to be done please do it. Thank you once again. Cricshady (talk) 07:50, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I see that you have not provided your opinion regarding the matter. Please consider giving your opinion in the discussion here and here so that the consensus can be reached. Thank you, Cricshady (talk) 08:36, 20 December 2014 (UTC)