User talk:Bob Blaylock
I noticed your edit to Downtown Sacramento and I wanted to thank you. It slipped my mind that it could have a reference to Heather Fargo on that page. I was going to "officially" welcome you to wikipedia (your talk page was a red link) when I looked at your contribs, and noticed you've edited off and on for over a year now. Well, I wanted to say "hi" and "keep up the good work" (both horrible cliches, but oh well). On another unrelated topic, I noticed you work for Cambell's. Nice. Killiondude (talk) 01:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
You are great.I like the images of algae taken by you.I am also working on algae.My name is Akshay Adamuthe.I live in India
Hi, I've been a veteran of Answerbag since the site was less than a year old. What Q&A sites do you visit now? I am now on Yedda much of the time. (Answerbag has jumped the shark for many users.) --Let Us Update Wikipedia: Dusty Articles 06:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Alas, there really are no other sites comparable to Answerbag. I think I was probably there as about as early as you, when Answerbag was still very new. It seemed to me, at one point, that it started very rapidly going downhill. I peek in on it occasionally, mostly to see what my brother (who is still active there) has been posting, but I've seen nothing to make me want to go back to being an active user there. I've tried a few other Q&A-type sites, but none of them really did it for me. — Bob Blaylock (talk) 08:37, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Non-free rationale for File:20091014 001914 FrancoAmericanSpaghetti.jpg
Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:20091014 001914 FrancoAmericanSpaghetti.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under non-free content criteria, but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to the file description page, and edit it to include a non-free rationale.
If you have uploaded other non-free media, consider checking that you have specified the non-free rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions, please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Kelly hi! 22:32, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
Questions about Edwin Rushton photo
Hi. Some controversy has arisen regarding the copyright status (if any) of File:EdwinRushton.jpg. The editor who recently reviewed White Horse Prophecy for promotion to a "Good Article" questioned whether the photo really is in the public domain in the US. This turns out to be a more complicated question than "author unknown, but the photograph is well over a hundred years old, so does it really matter?" — apparently it really does matter.
You said the source of the picture was "a photograph in my Book of Remembrance". Can you tell me whether the picture really is an original photographic print, or if it was copied from or cut out of a book, newspaper, or other publication? And is there any indication (possibly written on the back of the photo) of an author, photographic studio, etc.? Or is it really, really just a photograph, taken by who-knows-who, handed down in your family and mounted in your Book of Remembrance, with nothing written on it, and absolutely no other clue regarding how it came to exist?
As part of getting White Horse Prophecy promoted to a Good Article, I agreed to remove Edwin Rushton's photo from the article until such time (if ever) that the image's copyright status can be definitively and unarguably established. I wouldn't mind restoring the photo to the article, but this can only happen if a consensus can be reached at Commons that the picture really is in the public domain in the US.
- As of this point, I do not know that there is any possible way to establish who took this picture, or who ever might have held or claimed any copyright on it. The “Book of Remembrance”, in this case, is something that was once a tradition among Mormons; a sort of a scrapbook containing various materials relevant to its owner's ancestry and heritage. The specific photograph is in the form of a small (about an inch wide by an inch and a half high) photographic print, glued among several others to a sort of a photographic pedigree chart, prepared a very long time ago by my paternal grandmother. I can only assume that she had this picture, and probably the negative thereof, because this was of one of her own ancestors, in this case, her maternal grandfather. (I believe she produced similar pages for several of my cousins around the same time, so I presume she had access then to the negative from which to have as many prints made as she needed of this and other photographs that she used for this purpose.) She's been dead now, for more than twenty years, so I cannot very well ask her where she got this picture. I think I can definitively say that it was not “copied from or cut out of a book, newspaper, or other publication”, and that “just a photograph, taken by who-knows-who, handed down in your family and mounted in your Book of Remembrance, with nothing written on it, and absolutely no other clue regarding how it came to exist” is really about the best possible description of its origin.
- It's difficult to imagine how this photograph could possibly fall under any extant copyright. Edwin Rushton died in 1904—more than a hundred years ago—at the age of about eighty years, and this photograph appears to be of him at a considerably younger age than that. This photograph cannot possibly be any less than one hundred eight (108) years old, and is most likely considerably older than that. It's impossible to establish who took the picture, but it is very likely the the photographer has been dead for at least a hundred years, and almost certain that the photographer has been dead for at least seventy years.
- If it's of any use to know who is connected to whom, I refer you to my pedigree chart at this URL: [deleted] The person who prepared the page on which this photograph appears is Edna Verl Field, who appears at position 5 on this chart. She is my father's mother; and her mother (11) was a daughter of Edwin Rushton (22).
- Thanks. The people at Commons are very conservative in their interpretation of copyright laws — they really, really don't want anything which might (even by totally innocent accident) be covered by a copyright and not freely usable without any strings attached. The last word I got (a short time ago) was that "it is very, very likely that this image is [public domain under US law], but we can't be entirely sure". I'll pass this latest info from you along to the Commons people and see what they say now. BTW, I am LDS and am familiar with the "Book of Remembrance" practice. I also took the liberty of deleting the URL above pointing to your pedigree chart, in order to lessen the chance of giving anything useful to identity thieves. Thanks again for replying to me with this information. — Richwales (talk) 02:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
- So what is the current status of this controversy? I assume that the photograph ought to have been deleted by now from the Commons if it could not be reliably enough be established as having no copyright issues. Otherwise, it ought to have been put back into the White Horse Prophecy article. Neither of these have yet been done. — Bob Blaylock (talk)
- Hi. I restored the Edwin Rushton photo to the article. I included a link to the Commons discussion in the talk page. I agree that if the Commons people are comfortable with having the picture stay, then there is no valid reason not to use it here on Wikipedia. — Richwales 07:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)