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Welcome message from ancient days[edit]


Hello, Boffob, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  -- pm_shef 22:53, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Invite to WikiProject Spam[edit]

No-spam.png Hello, Boffob. Thanks for your help removing linkspam from Wikipedia! If you're interested, come visit us at WikiProject Spam and help fight linkspammers on Wikipedia. Hu12 02:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Spamstar of Glory[edit]

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To Boffob for diligence in the tireless battle against Linkspam on Wikipedia. --Hu12 21:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for your tireless efforts in keeping article clear of spam and other nonsense. Wikipedia is a better quality project because of hardworking and conscientious editors like you!--Hu12 21:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Re: Bot making bad edits[edit]

Please, put the template {{nobots}} on page Un gars, une fille and the bots (every bot in the world) will never modify the page. Regards. --Alleborgo 17:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Un gars, une fille[edit]

I have changed to nobots tag to bots|deny=.... This is a bit of an experiment, as I don't know quite how many pywikipedia bots will make this class of mistake, or how many articles it may apply to. Just thought I'd let you know. Rich Farmbrough, 14:53 31 October 2007 (GMT).

European Year of Creativity and Innovation[edit]

Thank you for finding the previous AfD for European Year of Creativity and Innovation. Please see my comments at Talk:European Year of Creativity and Innovation. I think that Wikipedia will need an article on this topic sooner or later, regardless of what happens to the current version of it. --Eastmain (talk) 14:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Mouni Abderahim[edit]

You tagged Mouni Abderahim for speedy deletion. As an athlete competing at the Olympic games, she is automatically considered notable. --Eastmain (talk) 18:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


Kindly restore it, then, pending such discussion. I would like to see the discussion that led to the deletion of this page, to which I had contributed quite a bit. I really appreciate it. Badagnani (talk) 20:32, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

3 August 2008[edit]

As I observe above, this particular day brought a few opinion collisions to you.

In my case you removed two pieces of information instead of moving them to the see also or to similar locations.

In addition to this, you put an NPOV marker without giving a detailing of what you think, of where you need more information, etc.

Looks for me as if you were not an expert of this subject, while I do it since 1972!

You have to understand, that NPOV does not mean, that we have to give supporting references to those evaluations what belong to the everyday opinion of the experts of the topic. That is, we simply say that "it is part of the folklore".

Each portions of my sentences were double checked in my mind, if I were able to defend it even before a curt.

I teach these scientific softwares regularly at my university, I evaluate the scientific projects made by these softwares, I regularly see the impact (success or failure) of choosing a scientific software for the given project, as a teaching staff I recieved plenty of personal Points Of Views, I really know, what in this case can be considered NPOV. I am not a child in this subject.

I was very very polite not to write the whole truth, the whole experiences. As you can observe, I wrote everywhere the positive aspects of the software in question.

Let us examine just for example two random sentences from the article: In the 90's, Maple had a relatively cheap pricing in the frame of campus wide licensing at big technical universities. Hence it is still wide spread among the engineers and physicist.

The both is trivially true. The both look for a non expert as if they were Personal Point Of View, some sort of Personal evaluation, and No references at all.


Do you have the prices lists from 1995? Can you give me a documentation, what the exact pricing of Maple, MuPAD and Mathematica have that time? The price was almost always a non public contract between the software houses and the particular universities! I remember the prices what we got, but except for court I have no right to disclose it!

The second sentence is even harder: probably you know the value of market information. Wiki editors have rarely the opportunity to put satisfactory market information into a GPL document.

But on the other hand, if you regularly meet or chat with teaching staffs of other universities (I do it with more than 41 universities all over the World!), then you will immediately see, that what I wrote in the article is simply a Neutral Point Of View!

Dear Boffob! Be first well informed, and edit only after it!

prohlep (talk) 10:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)



Moved discussion[edit]

Thanks for your advice on footnotes for the 'Tom Hardy (designer)' article. I will try to figure out how to to fix the current issue. Last weekend I attempted to apply the proper Wikipedia method, but could never get it right.....but I'll keep at it until it works.--Dezignr (talk) 21:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I have repeatedly attempted to implement the proper footnote guidelines as required. However, after many trials I'm not having any success. Obviously, I'm having some type of block when it comes to the tagging method. Is there an experienced editor who can graciously help by properly applying the footnotes in the article 'Tom Hardy (designer)'? I hate to give up, but it seems I have no choice but to ask for help. I did reduce the number of in-text footnote numbers as you recommended, and have applied in-text superscripts in the proper locations with numbers that relate directly to the proper reference in the "Sources" list of the article. Thanks, in advance, for guidance.-Dezignr (talk) 02:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

SUCCESS!!!! -- The footnotes have been corrected on the artcle 'Tom Hardy (designer)'. Your example and simple directions helped clear-up the the process. Thanks again for your editing help!!!

Dezignr (talk) 17:24, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Your sharp WP:ELNO eyes[edit]

That was quite a swathe you cut through kigo. I wonder could I prevail upon you to take a similar glance at haiku, as I'm too close to the subject to be able to make any judgement that would not be totally subjective? Thanks for any help.
--Yumegusa (talk) 15:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Afd Campingkirche[edit]

Hi Boffob, I would like to make a Wikipedia:NAC to Campingkirche with keep and change it to my proposed stub. You may rewrite or correct this, please. If there is an exsisting article (maybe Church service) where this could be a section, we can also redirect campingkirche and merge it. Will you please leave a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Campingkirche. Your opinion is very appreciated. Thank you. Sebastian scha. (talk) 14:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Article Name[edit]

Sorry to bother you with this request, but I have searched sections of Wikipedia and have been unable to locate instructions on how to modify the primary name of an existing article. Any guidance to the appropriate instructional section will be appreciated. Thanks. Dezignr (talk) 13:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Your "wtf" objections to Sales_Engineer[edit]


I understand that you need to have conformity of style, and I am sorry that my first contribution isn't at that standard yet. I'll do my best to make edits in an attempt to make you more agreeable to the article's inclusion. -pat --Bogus Exception (talk) 17:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

The following was posted on Talk:Sales_engineer:

Fair enough. But there are some parts of your objections that cannot probably be met. For example: This article does not cite any references or sources.. This role is new, and as such has virtually no places to site or use as reference. I was lucky to find the DOL site. Any other searches reveal businesses that want to sell the services of a Sales Engineer, or have a job posting looking for one.

Unfortunately, the title is being mis-applied, or even mis-used, which is why I created this page in the first place. Before I did, this page was directed to Field_Application_Engineer, which couldn't be farther from the truth.

So I'll work on formatting per your original wtf, but there may not be a lot that can be done with references beyond whhat I already submitted. -pat (Bogus Exception) User:Bogus_Exception --Bogus Exception (talk) 17:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Request to move article Ballade des Dames du Temps Jadis incomplete[edit]

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You recently filed a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves to move the page Ballade des Dames du Temps Jadis to a different title - however your proposal is either incomplete or has been contested as being controversial. As a result, it has been moved to the incomplete and contested proposals section. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

Please make sure you have completed all three of the following:

  1. Added {{move|NewName}} at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved, replacing "NewName" with the new name for the article. This creates the required template for you there.
  2. Added {{subst:RMtalk|NewName|reason for move}} to the bottom of the talk page of the page you want to be moved, to automatically create a discussion section there.
  3. Added {{subst:RMlink|PageName|NewName|reason for move}} to the top of today's section here.

If you need any further guidance, please leave a message at Wikipedia talk:Requested moves or contact me on my talk page. - JPG-GR (talk) 05:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

One tribe creative[edit]

Hello Boffob, my name is David Welch and I work at One Tribe Creative. Taking advice from you, I added a client list and external links to help resolve the notability guidelines. Because of my conflict of interest, I feel as though I should not edit the page anymore. Is there any way you could check the external links and client list to see if they resolve the notability, and if possible, clean the text up to remove the conflict of interest and advertisement tags? It would be greatly appreciated, and forgive me if I missed any wiki-etiquette guidelines (I am new to this). Thanks Boffob! Dreamguru1632 (talk) 16:05, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello, Boffob, thank you for the quick reply. To be perfectly honest, I would rather have the page deleted than to have the tags remain on the page. How would I go about deleting the page (or putting it up for deletion nomination)? Again I would like to thank you for helping me out with this situation. It is greatly appreciated. Dave Dreamguru1632 (talk) 20:13, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

D&D articles for Wikipedia 0.7[edit]

Hi there!  :)

As someone who's worked on D&D and/or RPG articles before, I'm inviting you to participate in our goal to both improve articles that have been selected to be placed in the next Wikipedia DVD release, as well as nominate more to be selected for this project. Please see the WikiProject D&D talk page for more details. :) BOZ (talk) 17:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Wescorp Energy Inc.[edit]

I made some style edits to Wescorp Energy Inc.. You may want to revisit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wescorp Energy Inc. -- Eastmain (talk) 19:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Beta Omicron Iota[edit]

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An article that you have been involved in editing, Beta Omicron Iota, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beta Omicron Iota. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Unschool (talk) 05:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Interim HC is notable as per WP:CFB[edit]

Just a quick FYI: an interim HC is notable as per plenty of WP:CFB precedent, since they (1) come from key coordinators who often warrant articles on their own, and (2) often become the permanent HC. --Bobak (talk) 18:25, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Since American college football is bigger than most international sports leagues, I'd disagree with that --but I think we both agree that the newer version is much better :-) --Bobak (talk) 21:35, 13 October 2008 (UTC)


Doesn't look notable to me either. Bongomatic (talk) 15:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

LA Direct Models[edit]

Hi. What was the problem with the external links? Epbr123 (talk) 21:20, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

AfD marker of "Ubank" article[edit]

Hello there. You seem to have a different view from the broader user base: there are several direct banks with wikipedia entries here. Do you really think they do not have any public interest value ? Also, did you actually read the UBank article: there are heaps of external references. I think you may have been a little lazy here and just slammed an AfD on it. Please review the respective talk and you'll see no/little support for deletion. Pls reconsider your mark. Appreciated

Thanks for your response. So, will you adjust your entry in the AfD talk page ? Or, better, whty don't you rewrite the article so it does conform to your opinion ?? I do believe there are too many people on Wikipedia who criticise rather than contribute ! - Signed: Myself

Hi Boffob. Sorry that you got blamed for the Afd which I put up. This anon seems to have an odd view of consensus. Cheers. Moondyne 12:29, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Alannerd and[edit]

Good morning.

You have proposed deletion of the article due to WP:ONEEVENT but for a forum instead of a person and WP:NOT#NEWS, notability of website outside of particular news event not established by reliable sources.

I take issue with that on two counts.

1) It is not notable simply due to one news event. It is notable to multiple news events, and continues to be an important part of the Kansas City area.

2) Reliable sources. I dont know how much more the newspaper for the entire Kansas City area, and an NBC affiliate can be. What is a reliable source if those are not?

I believe that the article, while not as important as The President of the United states, serves an important purpose in the Kansas City area.

Not all encyclopedia articles need worldwide, or even nationwide notoriety to be important.

Thank you

-Alannerd (talk) 12:42, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Prods

I do understand that, but thank you for reminding.

I suppose I am curious if you think that my rationale is viable for Wikipedia.

-Alannerd (talk) 13:19, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Re: Prods

Thanks for your suggestions, I will do as you suggested.

-Alannerd (talk) 15:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Editor Assistance Request[edit]

Dear Boffob,

We are attempting to create a Wikipedia Page for Lou Stanasolovich who is founder, CEO and President of Legend Financial Advisors, Inc. in Pittsburgh, PA. Our company Web site is We are having difficulty once we have created the page, it is being deleted and we are not sure what we are doing wrong. We are putting in descriptive content that uses a neutral point of view and we believe we are complying with Wikipedia's editorial guidelines. We are primarily seeking to post factual biopgraphical information about Mr. Stanasolovich. Mr. Stanasolovich is a highly regarded and an extremely accomplished financial advisory professional who is frequently sought after by the national media and industry conferences to speak about various topics. Our goal is to create a short, factual Wiki about him as his name is often searched upon in search engines due to the media recognition he receives. We have noticed that a friend of ours in the financial advisory profession, Harold Evensky has successfully built a Wiki article and we were attempting to model Lou's after his but it still got deleted. Could you please advise us as to how we can mold the content a certain way in order to create and sustain the article? Also, is there a Wiki customer service contact person we could speak with directly by telephone if we continue to experience problems? We are excited about being part of the Wikipedia community to provide objective information about one of the most prominent figures in the financial advisory profession. Please advise.

Best Regards,

Christopher J. Kail Legend Financial Advisors, Inc. (412) 635-9210 --LFA061807 (talk) 14:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michelle Belanger[edit]

I added some references to Michelle Belanger. You may want to revisit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michelle Belanger. -- Eastmain (talk) 22:13, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Sports team[edit]

Hey, quick question: Why did you remove the Carabins logo from the Université de Montréal infobox? The very reason why I put it there is that most university articles (including featured ones) have their sports team logo included in their infobox (See Michigan State University). Maybe there's some guideline I've missed. Anyway, I would very much like to have your rationale behind this =) --m3taphysical (talk) 22:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Universite Laval[edit]

Speaking of that, I e-mailed the school asking them what the official name was. Someone more or less responded "The Name in English is Laval University" (if you want I can CC a copy of the e-mail to you) - I'm wondering if there was a misunderstanding. Anyway, I'm aware of the Canadian noticeboard convention. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Diesel monorails[edit]

The correct response to seeing poorly formatted, unsourced text is to fix it, not delete it; a simple Google will pull up nearly a million hits for diesel monorails. Jpatokal (talk) 03:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for David_Krikorian[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of David_Krikorian. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ryan8403 (talk) 23:27, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


Just as a heads up, the nominator had actually previously merged that information (see [1] and [2]} to the section where he says it already exists (that's why it exists there) and thus per the GFDL, my understanding is that the contributions of the various editors who originally wrote that content must remain visible, so when he says it is already covered in that section in the nomination and himself merged the content a few weeks ago to the area where he is okay with it existing, the nomination strikes me as odd, because if he believes that section should exist, then we cannot delete the article, rather only redirect the article. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 18:08, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Carmelita Fox[edit]

Please note that the character does get a number of references on Google News, which I have begun adding to the article. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 17:45, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

July 29 in rail transport[edit]

I just want to let you know that the July 29 in rail transport ended in a no consensus. I am currently disputing that decision atWikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 December 3. If you wish to speak your opinion of the result of the AfD, please do so at the Deletion Review. Thanks for your opinion in the discussion. Tavix (talk) 00:48, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: RFC bot bug[edit]

Betacommand, the programmer of the bot, responded:

"its an error with the recent update of mediawiki. Cydebot had the same issue. βcommand 02:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)"

--harej 02:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

List of fictional governments[edit]

For your attention, a recent AFD you were involved in has gone up for a deletion review here. Ryan4314 (talk) 21:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

about Demonologist[edit]

as you participated in editing of Demonologist article, you mignt have an opinion for Talk:Demonology#Demonology in fiction (Idot (talk) 02:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC))