User talk:Bongwarrior/Archive 9

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Time to go

On the authority of Wikipedia:WikiProject UniNet and per [1], I'm afraid you are no longer welcome on the Internet, we're going to have to ask you to leave--Jac16888 Talk 11:15, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Whatever, the internet is just a fad anyway. --Bongwarrior (talk) 18:21, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Calvin Coolidge

I wanted to inquire as to why you have deleted the recently created page Calvin Coolidge (rapper). Calvin Coolidge is an up-and-coming rapper with a significant following, and I fail to see why the page warranted deletion. On the contrary, more people should contribute to the page and help it to grow.

Marinedonut (talk) 02:10, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

He is unsigned and doesn't appear to have done anything to suggest that he is notable yet. Has his significant following been documented in any reliable sources yet? Adequate sourcing is what usually decides whether an article is kept or not. --Bongwarrior (talk) 02:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


KABOOOOM! HalfShadow 05:35, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Ramalamadingdong?. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:39, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, if you want. Didn't think you went for that, myself. HalfShadow 05:42, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Ha, you're pretty funny (looking). --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:49, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, and you're priceless As in: having no value. BAM! HalfShadow 05:55, 28 May 2011 (UTC)


Hey dude, your block here was a bit premature. He already told us his little brother did it but whatever, my cat once got me kicked off of #wikipedia-en, seriously :) --Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:43, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

He's had plenty of opportunities to get his malevolent little brother under control. My good faith regarding this account has been exhausted. --Bongwarrior (talk) 02:36, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Philosophy semiprotection

I noticed that you semiprotected Philosophy here:

And that the protection was removed here:

There appears to still be an ongoing problem with edits that are not made to improve the article, but rather because of Wikipedia:Get to Philosophy, and thus in my opinion semiprotection is appropriate.

To reduce the likelihood of damage to Wikipedia I added a section to Wikipedia:Get to Philosophy (section "Gaming The System") and made sure that the first few links in Philosophy went to appropriate philosophy-related articles rather than articles about partially or completely unrelated topics, but I still believe that semiprotection of Philosophy is needed due to ongoing vandalism by IPs and new accounts.

If I understand the note at Category:Wikipedia pages with incorrect protection templates correctly, this can be corrected by using <noinclude>{{tl|pp-semi|small=yes}} instead of {{tl|pp-semi|small=yes}}. Guy Macon (talk) 19:59, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Looking at the history at it seems that several of the pages that were unprotected may need some sort of protection. It's hard to believe that Anal sex doesn't have an ongoing vandalism problem, yet there is I will leave it to you to decide on those, especially because I have this sneaking suspicion that perhaps I am making a newbie mistake by assuming removing {{tl|pp-semi|small=yes}} actually changes the protection level. Guy Macon (talk) 20:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Just to cover all bases, I put in a request here: Guy Macon (talk) 21:59, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
You're right, you are making a newbie mistake :) {{pp-semi}} is just a template to notify other editors that the page is protected. It has no bearing on the actual protection level. The protection on philosophy wasn't removed, it just expired: I only set the duration for a week. Incidentally, I don't think I protected it due to the philosophy game, but rather run-of-the-mill vandalism. But you're absolutely right that the philosophy game has been something of an annoyance lately. I've also noticed some related problems at articles like sequence, quantity, and information, with some editors trying to break the chain, and others trying to restore it, with little regard as to what's best for the article. --Bongwarrior (talk) 23:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Hey, what would Wikipedia be without Newbies? (grin). One can only hope that the section I added on Gaming The System will help. Guy Macon (talk) 00:38, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I had a look at the section, very nicely done. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:41, 31 May 2011 (UTC)


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HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

uhh hi.

Um, what I edited to the Kate Voegele page is... "true". But now I guess I'll have to find scholarly sources that meet your stringent requirements for adding to the field of human knowledge. Because we can't gain access to her plastic surgeon's surgery records, I suppose we'll have to find some of kind of "E News" style discussion of it, which... doesn't exist, because she's a nobody in the grand scheme, who will probably be spit out the bottom of the porn industry in 5-6 years. By the way, the thing about clearchannel is 100% guaranteed.

I would like to add an epistemological comment, namely, that because the sphere of Wikipedia's coverage is _far_ beyond that of any kind of properly "encyclopedic" standard, not to mention, journalistic standard, any thing which could possibly call into question the bona fides of this... "pop star, singer-songwriter, and actress," whose wiki entry makes her sound like a self-made creative juggernaunt, which might be found in a "real" journalistic source simply does not exist. How can you rectify this with your apparent high standards, as I note a palpable lack of sources for the positive (epistemologically speaking) details presented on the page as it stands?

You know what I mean?

Sincerely, Someone who went to school with the aforementioned charlatan

P.S.: Would it be ok if I added the detail about her nepotistic connections to Clear Channel corporation, if I found a source for it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:16, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

The criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. If the references present in the article are lacking, the solution isn't to add even more unsourced information, especially if that information is contentious. The Clear Channel stuff would be absoulutely fine, as long as it is properly sourced. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:26, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Would it be ok if I were to remove the unverified and unverifiable content, that is to say, 95% of the article that isn't linked to any reputable source? It might a be a big project though. -- (talk) 08:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, another post, but to back up what I just had. "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source."

Clearly a lark on the part of whoever wrote that. Or if not, why shouldn't one be able to remove the unsourced material? Could I tag every thing as unsourced and after a week is it fine to delete it? Or do the publicity companies have free reign on this "encyclopedia"? -- (talk) 08:39, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

More over, you avoid the epistemological issue: could one add whatever they want unsourced so long as it isn't controversial? I mean, how did any of this get on here in the first place then? The only links here are to thumbnail galleries and publicity releases by dubious corporations.-- (talk) 08:41, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello, anonymous user. I noticed this question, and thought I would try to help out.
It's quite easy, really; and quite fast. Please see this edit. In accordance with the policy WP:V and particularly WP:BLP, I have removed a large amount of unreferenced or poorly-referenced information.
Now, if possible, please add back anything you like, with a reliable source - that is, something with a 'reputation for fact-checking and accuracy'. Anything that does not have one should be removed.
If there is not evidence of "significant coverage in independent reliable sources", the article may be deleted - see WP:VRS, WP:BIO.
I also suggest you create an account - amongst other reasons, it makes it easier to get help with this sort of thing.
Cheers,  Chzz  ►  08:51, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
That's sooo encyclopedic of you. Cheers. -- (talk) 08:55, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
See also Talk:Kate Voegele#Verifiability. Happy to discuss it further there - that's the best place to talk about the article. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  08:58, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
@Bongwarrior, see also under User_talk:  Chzz  ►  09:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Tourism in Antarctica

I'am sorry for the inconvenience. I will be sure to use the sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:47, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


Could you revdelete all of those annoying edits that Swordancer made to my user talk page as RD3: purely disruptive material? Thanks! Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 18:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I've only removed the worst of them, hopefully that is acceptable. --Bongwarrior (talk) 18:37, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
You could have done four of them at once (I think), but thanks! Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 18:38, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Could you only allow autoconfirmed users to create User talk:Crazymonkey1123/Fooled You? It has a history of non-autoconfirmed users creating it with attack content or gibberish.. Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 18:44, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
No problem, done. --Bongwarrior (talk) 18:48, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


(Moved from your user page, where it was originally placed by UnifiedLeft StrikerforceTalk Review me! 10:48, 3 June 2011 (UTC) ) Why did you revert the Donut Day page back to a SPAM advertisement page for donut retailers? How is any of the nonsense about doughboys relevant? Instead of reverting, how about gutting the advertisements and nonsense from the article and seeing what would be left?--UnifiedLeft (talk) 10:42, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rahul Bhandari (2nd nomination)

As an editor who previously commented on this Article, I would like to inform you that this article is on the AfD discussion again. Please feel free to make a comment. Hasteur (talk) 15:54, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --Bongwarrior (talk) 16:02, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Walking

Bongwarrior - I have noticed that you have contributed to the List of people who have walked across the United States, and cordially invite you to participate in a new WikiProject Walking that I have proposed. Your support for the project, active or passive, would be appreciated. Bezza84 (talk) 19:55, 4 June 2011 (UTC)


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Speedy deletion

Request re-evaluating your recommendation to undelete in light of the fact that all issues raised have been addressed. Mangopr (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:13, 5 June 2011 (UTC).

AFL players

I see you have still been busy cleaning up after various people's "attempts" on articles on AFL players. Thanks, but if there are any that look like they are salvageable, or you want a 2nd opinion, then let me know. Cheers, The-Pope (talk) 17:34, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Will do, thanks. --Bongwarrior (talk) 17:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

talk page abuse has already began abusing his talk page access. Crazymonkey1123 (Jacob) T or M/Sign mine 04:14, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Alan Rubin

Thanks! Best wishes DBaK (talk) 19:57, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

He is now legally, offiically, dead (as the Munchkins would say). His obit is in the LA Times and I have so noted on the page. I also removed the protection. I think. Am I allowed to do that? Paul, in Saudi (talk) 07:10, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Don't worry about the protection, it had already expired. Take care. --Bongwarrior (talk) 07:15, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you both very much. I am relieved, not of course that he's dead, but that this is resolved. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 11:40, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

James Edward Franks II

Any chance you can salt the page since it's the third time it's been created and CSD'd? Noformation Talk 23:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking about it, but decided to wait for now. I'll keep an eye on it. --Bongwarrior (talk) 23:49, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Kyle Mosher

Just curious why you removed Kyle Mosher as notable resident for Nashua, NH? Goodartistscopy (talk) 19:29, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

He didn't have a Wikipedia article when I removed him, which led me to believe he wasn't notable. I see that he has one now, so I'm appeased. Please understand, people like to add their buddies or themselves as notable residents of wherever. Seeing if they have an article written about them or not is a quick and easy way of determining if they really belong. Sorry for the misunderstanding, and good luck with the article. --Bongwarrior (talk) 21:46, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


Gah. Thanks for the fix; did not mean to revert that back in.  :) Ignore the poster above, you are nice. Kuru (talk) 16:54, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

No worries, and thanks for the kind words. My niceness is debatable, but I've learned to fake it pretty convincingly, when it benefits me to do so. --Bongwarrior (talk) 17:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)


Why do you keep deleting "Qalrus"? It's not hurting anybody, bro

Glow0512 (talk) 21:45, 16 June 2011 (UTC)Glow0512

Sorry, but it wasn't exactly helping anybody either. Please read this, and if you have any questions I'll be happy to assist you. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:00, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Anthony Weiner

I think you should semi-protect it again. It expires tonight, yet he only resigned today. Just a thought. SOXROX (talk) 00:10, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to see how unprotection works out first. My guess is not very well, but you never know. I'll be sure to reprotect it if necessary. Thanks for the heads up. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Sure, but I would give it a 48 hour semi-protection. SOXROX (talk) 02:08, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


Ya hi....I was wondering why the article for D-Pryde was deleted, and I am not able to create that page. There is plenty of info that I can use on him in this page:

--Techno31 (talk) 22:10, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

The article was repeatedly deleted, then finally protected, because the subject didn't meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. I'm reluctant to unprotect it because there's nothing in the Rap Wiki article that suggests that much has changed since then. If you believe I'm mistaken, you are welcome to work on a draft in your userspace. If you are able to develop a suitably referenced article, I'll consider moving your draft into the main encyclopedia. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:24, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Or, you could just create an unreferenced article at an alternate title, which will soon be deleted. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:34, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Kit Kat

Why did you undo what i wrote? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:57, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

It was unconstructive. --Bongwarrior (talk) 17:59, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Attack Page

Thank you for deleting the attack page I tagged. Should the author be blocked for creating it? Ryan Vesey (talk) 03:34, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

In my opinion, not unless they keep doing it. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:40, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Then why are you deleting?

Is there a reason of such!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoamRodrik (talkcontribs) 10:06, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Please see CSD A7 - it was an article about web content that didn't indicate importance or significance. --Bongwarrior (talk) 10:13, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

YOU are not nice

it isn't funny to delete good pages --Patriotman11 (talk) 16:11, 14 June 2011 (UTC) +1 --NoamRodrik (talk) 10:15, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Guy's about as bright as an unlit candle, innit he? HalfShadow 16:28, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Steven Joseph

I am not upset that you are flagging my topic "Steven Joseph" for deletion. I have discovered myself that some of the information is falsified but I will be posting legitimate information about the subject as soon as I get clarity about his filmography projects. You can then use that information as a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thecvntxo (talkcontribs) 22:36, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

thanks man

so why can't i have my own fictional biography of myself again? - roydominguez4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roydominguez4 (talkcontribs) 16:32, 21 June 2011 (UTC)



Thread created to vandalize the article, recommend temporary semi-protection Charitwo (talk) 05:33, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. It was a pretty lame raid, so I was going to wait it out a little longer, but Prodego has protected it. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:36, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Go ahead if you want. Prodego talk 05:39, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
No need now, protection is an equally valid response. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:42, 25 June 2011 (UTC)


Thanks. I don't have the tools with this acct. LadyofShalott-alt (talk) 05:47, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

No problemo. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:49, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks & A question abt. reverting vandalism

High Bongwarrior, wanted to say thanks for blocking that IP user that launched a wholesale vandalism attack on Red Sea. I tried to fight them off best as could but it was so late at night here (central USA) I finally had to go grab some sleep. Question - in a situation like that how can I revert more than one of their edits at a time, like back to the last honest edit? Is that whats called "rollback" rights? If so, how can I be granted them. I'm not a full-time vandalism fighter, but have been involved with it quite a bit lately patrolling recent changes, and thought it might be useful. Thanks again, and have a great Wiki kinda day! Sector001 (talk) 19:37, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I've enabled rollback for your account. Be sure to use it with caution, and only on obvious vandalism. You may also want to have a look at Twinkle. It's basically a slower version of rollback, but it gives you the option of adding an edit summary if needed. It's also very useful for warning users, reporting them to WP:AIV, welcoming them, and nominating pages for deletion, among other features. It can be enabled as a gadget under your preferences. Take care. --Bongwarrior (talk) 23:16, 26 June 2011 (UTC)


Hi Bongwarrior, I'm curious why you added "philosophy" to the Lupin/badwords list. Is there some particular philosophy related vandalism going on? So far, I have only seen false positives for this word.--Kubigula (talk) 05:05, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

I added it because I thought it might help track edits related to the philosophy game. I haven't noticed it to be a very worthwhile addition either - would you like me to remove it? --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:15, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Fascinating - I'd never heard of that one. Now that I know why it's on the list, I'll keep an eye out for malicious uses. I say we leave it on for now.--Kubigula (talk) 03:39, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

May 2nd

I made those changes because of the new Harry Potter movie that is coming out in America on July 15th. May 2nd is the date that the final scene takes place on. I do not think that my content is considered "vandalism". Most people around the world know of, or have read the Harry Potter series. The Harry Potter series is much more relevent than some of the other things that happened on May 2nd. The date of May 2nd was the date that the author of Harry Potter, J. K. Rowling, said in an interview as the date of those characters deaths and the final battle. Millions of people would not care if they see this in a Wikipedia article for that specific date. <--- this is the link that J.K. Rowling said that it was May 2nd. I hope you change that article back and include my additions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:24, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

I apologize if your edit was meant in good faith, but that information has been added so often that it's starting to become a problem. The addition has no encyclopedic relevance - we don't present fictional events and people alongside real ones on date articles, whether it's Harry Potter, Twilight, Indiana Jones, or whatever. --Bongwarrior (talk) 07:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

wonderful. just wonderful.

let us Harry Potter Fans have our fun, and editing the 31st of October isn't harming you, unless you have OCD towards editing pages and/or hate the series. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Livii23 (talkcontribs) 11:12, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Your proxy block

Hey there, Bongwarrior. That isn't actually a proxy, but a school system in Australia. --Bsadowski1 04:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

How are you so sure? I'm not especially IP-savvy, so it's entirely possible that I've botched this one. --Bongwarrior (talk) 04:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
At, it says --Bsadowski1 04:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, I've changed the block. --Bongwarrior (talk) 06:15, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Looks like it may be time for a range block.Jasper Deng (talk) 04:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for semi-protecting Killing Floor (2009 video game). The vandalism was getting out of hand and that shut it down. HistoryStudent113(talk to me) 06:40, 29 July 2011 (UTC)


hi why you do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Narcotics123 (talkcontribs) 07:25, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

The Red Wings are still in the Western Conference, aren't they? --Bongwarrior (talk) 07:27, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Deleted article

let us wikipedia people have or fun. im srry if this was somehow offending u. but im just making a page that people could mess around with for fun. people on wikipedia can have some fun too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingnoobie (talkcontribs) 04:47, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but it had to be done. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:10, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the crude editing on the Mortal Kombat page

Though it was a joke I appalogize for the inconvenience. - Scorpion20

Not a problem. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:13, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the page protection

I was having a beast of a time getting that page to revert Wildthing61476 (talk) 02:53, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

No problem. --Bongwarrior (talk) 06:50, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Natasha sharp

you deleted my page! wtf that was legit!!1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wit0011 (talkcontribs) 06:45, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

It didn't look very legit to me. You may want to read Wikipedia:Your first article to get an idea of what we're looking for. --Bongwarrior (talk) 06:50, 9 August 2011 (UTC)


Hi Bongwarrior,

Did you block that user? They were becoming extremely annoying. :( --Onewhohelps (talk) 08:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Affirmative. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:31, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
This person is blanking things continuously. --Onewhohelps (talk) 08:33, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
I'll keep an eye on it. It doesn't seem to be typical vandal behavior, so I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt right now, to see if they'll stop on their own --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:46, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

cmon dude

lemme make my page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingnoobie (talkcontribs) 04:44, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Come on! The people who died in the Battle of Hogwarts deserve it!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:55, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Choco-Nut Bake with Meringue Top cropped.jpg Hey, I thought you could use this as that was some tricky vandalism on My Little Pony. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 05:35, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Heavyhanded smackdown on IPs re Moo shu pork

Bet you saw this header and thought I was going to complain.

Nah, just stopping by to voice my approval.

If the rest of the night has been any indication, the 4channers are stirring, and we probably came across a nest of the vile little critters. You shut the whole thing down quite effectively.

Thanks, Sven Manguard Wha? 08:28, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been pretty busy tonight, unfortunately. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:36, 12 August 2011 (UTC)


My friend and I are writing each other's page. We were video chatting as we wrote it, it wasn't some random page without their consent. (Guitarnoob (talk) 08:04, 13 August 2011 (UTC))

I realize you didn't mean any harm, but the topic (your friend) isn't notable, and thus isn't appropriate for a Wikipedia article. If you need a copy of the text, I will be happy to provide it to you. Take care. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:08, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Cupcakes and Kisses

Didn't really send em.. hope youre not too upset.Bb 220 (talk) 08:31, 13 August 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bb 220 (talkcontribs) 08:21, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I could use a cupcake. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:30, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG Thanks for the semi-proc at 2011 England riots, some admin denied my request at WP:RFPP, on grounds that nothing was happening, but there obviously was. Cerejota (talk) 19:45, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Professing my love. For... umm... your work... Nice save... right? Atomician (talk) 12:58, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Mistaken block?

I think you got the wrong person, with the block of Beepoppab (talk · contribs) ?  Chzz  ►  05:04, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

No mistake. Check the contribs, as well as his previous unseemly behavior. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:06, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Ah, yes; I missed one [2] - I see. Sorry. I thought he was reverting, and the IPs were vandalising, and there was a mix-up in the undo. But no - you're right - sorry. Thanks for checking.  Chzz  ►  05:16, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

IP vandalism

First Dirk, now John Elway--are none of the gods safe? What's next, Pele? Drmies (talk) 16:04, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Hardly gods. None of them played in Pittsburgh. --Bongwarrior (talk) 16:08, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Oh come on now. I was in Pittsburgh a couple of months ago. It's not the Garden of Eden, you know. (I did have some real good Cajun food, and ate frog legs for the first time--and I gladly admit that enjoying Cajun food up there is kind of odd.) Drmies (talk) 16:20, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Black man on a Moulton bike

I think you unfairly blocked this user. I checked his edit count via the edit count tool on the toolserver, (Twinkle provides a quick link to a users edit count) and it says that the user has 1 live (not deleted) edit, and 0, count 'em, ZERO deleted edits. Wikipedia admins should always check and make sure that they will keep doing it. Perhaps (s)he was going to be a good editor after that, and now (s)he can't due to an indef block made after they made one edit. LikeLakers2 (talk) 22:27, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

That's a gamble I'm willing to take. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Nevermind, apparently it was a sock of a banned user. [3] LikeLakers2 (talk) 22:36, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
WikiJaguar here: There is a lesson here... which is? :)--Cerejota (talk) 22:43, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Probably WP:RANDOM :P LikeLakers2 (talk) 00:36, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Srobak#User talk:

You basically summed up what I was clearly explaining to him in one message. Thanks. :D LikeLakers2 (talk) 00:11, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

What can I say, I have a gift for redundancy. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:13, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Redundent edit is redundent. And so is {{sp}} abuse, as shown here. :P LikeLakers2 (talk) 00:20, 27 August 2011 (UTC)


Ya remember me? I'm Ezekiel63745! Though, I lost the password to that, so I'm now Ezekiel53746. Notice the positions of the 5 and 6 changed? :D Ezekiel53746 (talk) 00:28, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, hope everything's going well. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:34, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Block on User:Leopard0leo

Bongwarrior, many thanks for the indef block on Leopard0leo. I wonder if I could ask you a further favor? Would you consider a temporary semi-protection on the Queensland Core Skills Test article? It has had a lot of vandalism in the last 24 hours from a number of editors, mostly IPs. I have a request at Wikipedia:Rfpp#Queensland_Core_Skills_Test_.28edit.7Ctalk.7Chistory.7Clinks.7Cwatch.7Clogs.29 but its getting a bit tiresome reverting while waiting for that request to be addressed. Many thanks, Claviere (talk) 09:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, someone got to it before me, good idea though. I'm not sure why I didn't protect it myself at the time, it was certainly justified. Take care. --Bongwarrior (talk) 18:21, 27 August 2011 (UTC)


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Srobak (talk) 13:01, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Interested in talking to you about Hurricane Irene revisions

Hi, I'm a reporter from the Daily Dot ( I'm interested in speaking to you and other contributors to the Hurricane Irene page. My story will be about how Wikipedia pages are formed about events that are still occurring. Honestly, I just find it interesting. If you'd like to be in my article, please respond or write me back at Sorry if I made any mistakes in this request. I am brand new to Wikipedia. Laureninspace (talk) 19:08, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Barnstar of Reversion Hires.png The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For your general work against vandalism. You seem to keep beating me to the rollback button while we are patrolling the recent changes page. Happy Editing! pluma Ø 19:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:51, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

A Barnstar!

Userpage Protection Barnstar.PNG The Userpage Shield
Just to say thanks for reverting that vandalism on my talk page --5 albert square (talk) 21:35, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Danica Patrick

I reported the named vandal to ARV...--Cerejota If you reply, please place a {{talkback}} in my talk page if I do not reply soon. 03:39, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:40, 11 September 2011 (UTC)


Hello, I wanted to ask you if you would be willing to be change the block settings of User:Traffikevents because they were suspended from Wikipedia because the account's purpose was COI advertising and it seems that they've resorted to using their User talk:Traffikevents talkpage as a vehicle for advertising now. Cheers, SwisterTwister talk 07:09, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I've disabled their ability to edit their talkpage. Take care. --Bongwarrior (talk) 07:13, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

dude leave some for me :P

I am just joking but damn you quick :P--Cerejota If you reply, please place a {{talkback}} in my talk page if I do not reply soon. 01:31, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

If it makes you feel any better, I usually get beat by someone using Huggle :) --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:34, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

WikiDefender Barnstar Hires.png The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Here's a barnstar to symbolize your contributions to Wikipedia whether it be suspending/reverting vandals or protecting pages. Anti-vandal reverters unite! SwisterTwister talk 07:33, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

What did I do?

I'm trying to write myself a Wikipedia page. You deleted it.... No explaination? If I did something wrong maybe you can explain it. Is there a specific format I should be writing in? Am I supposed to pick a topic first, and if so, how? You got time to go through and delete stuff, maybe you can try being constructive this time and offering some advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christhulin (talkcontribs) 15:22, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

The subject of the article (you) does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. My best advice would be to pick a new topic. --Bongwarrior (talk) 15:32, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

I can't pick a different topic. And what makes someone notable? There's rappers on Wikipedia! Do I have to hit the Billboard charts first? I'm confused. And how is it that you get to decide who's notable or not? Not trying to sound angry, these are actual questions, not rhetorical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christhulin (talkcontribs) 15:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

No problem, check out Wikipedia:Notability (people). Essentially, a person is considered notable if news outlets and magazines and so forth have covered or reported on him or her. And yes, if you hit the Billboard charts you're pretty much in. --Bongwarrior (talk) 15:44, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Impersonating me!!!

Dear Wikimate, Kindly check the actions done by this user. He is impersonating my ID and leaving false messages in my talk page. Kindly check this edit. Kindly do the needful. arun talk 13:06, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you...

...for your quick response! LovesMacs (talk) 05:09, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

No problem, thank you for the report. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:10, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Pat Brittenden

Can you protect this article because it seems both IP and username accounts have been playing with the words in the article for two days now. Thanks, SwisterTwister talk 05:22, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I was away for the week. It looks like it's been handled. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:51, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

Cheeseburger.png Here is a cheeseburger for deleted my page :) Landyyecla (talk) 05:42, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

It was a joke. :~) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmbaqua (talkcontribs) 01:54, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Latest block of an Anon.

Hi Bongwarrior!

I just came here to inform you, that I believe that the Anon. that you blocked,, is actually a sock of blocked sock-puppeteer User:Catherine Huebscher. I have my suspicions, because another one of he/r Ip's he/r Ip's that had been blocked for Sp,, just so happens to have the same editing pattern as this new Ip, simmilar address, has shown hatred to User:Legolas2186, and has confessed to saying, "I'm happily editing on another IP and there is nothing you can do about it you lame biased d...". I know I should be reporting this somewhere, but have no clue where, and since you are the blocking admin of this current Ip, I was wondering is there anything that can be done? Thank You -- MelbourneStar☆ (talk to me) 02:49, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey. In my opinion, nothing else needs to be done at the moment - the IP has been given some time off, and probably won't be used again. As for the sockenmeister, you may want to make a note at the SPI page for future reference. If it continues, a range block might be the way to go. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


Different person here, I really think it is notable when its on the front page of a major site. (talk) 03:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

This is in reference to...? --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

EDIT Sorry, I didnt realise this was your user talk page. New to editing and wikipedia! (talk) 03:37, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok, understood. Now, I like Reddit, but being on the front page of Reddit isn't quite the same as being on the front page of or something. Reddit is entirely user-created content and doesn't come close to being a reliable independent source with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy, which is something that Wikipedia requires if we are to have anything to base an article on. Using Reddit as a source about a meme/theory invented on Reddit isn't exactly kosher. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:56, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Whilst I understand it is user created content, I still believe it should be considered notable (possibly not for this article in question) and reputable generally because it has such a large userbase. (talk) 04:58, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Notable, maybe - but only if or someone were to do a story about the concept first. But reputable? Not likely. --Bongwarrior (talk) 05:50, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Those two IPs

Could you have another look at the two IPs of that guy who seems to have it out for me? I ran a Whois on both of them (see this report I refiled) and I think he going for open proxies now. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 18:49, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that certainly does seem to be the case. Thank you for pointing that out, I've adjusted the blocks. --Bongwarrior (talk) 19:12, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Sentinel247 (talk · contribs)

Wonder who that is/was. I see now that we block-conflicted. Drmies (talk) 04:09, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Nobody of importance, I'm reasonably sure. --Bongwarrior (talk) 04:11, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Rev Del

Hi. Please rev del the addition of personal info here. Thanks,  Abhishek  Talk 09:38, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Er, there's one more.  Abhishek  Talk 09:47, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
All done, I think. --Bongwarrior (talk) 09:54, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Yeah, and while you were doing that you left non-commissioned men to clean up the AN board for nine solid minutes. Can I get a combat promotion now? Freakin' admins... ;P Doc talk 10:00, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Declan Hannon

Alright bruv sorry about tha. But i have strong evidence these rumours are true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gnoonan999 (talkcontribs) 00:21, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Young cats.jpg

I see you are doing a good job keeping up with this vandal. (the one on and and probably more ips)

Thank you and keep up the good work!

SkittleJuice (talk) 23:54, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

My protection

Sorry for protect conflicting you. It looks like a specific imageboard's attack from a banned user. --Bsadowski1 22:53, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Not a problem, protection conflicts are unavoidable sometimes. --Bongwarrior (talk) 23:03, 9 October 2011 (UTC)


Hi Bongwarrior, I know we're going to butt-heads on the appearance of the santorum definition but just to let you know, it's nothing personal but it should stay. Best wishes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by APoincot (talkcontribs) 05:27, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I disagree, of course, but respect your opinion. --Bongwarrior (talk) 06:01, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Confused I am

What is going on with . I know they tripped the Grawp filter, but I can't find any of their edits. Were they oversighted or? NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 04:20, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

The edit was disallowed by the edit filter, so technically they have no edits. See here. --Bongwarrior (talk) 04:23, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
Misread edit filter. Didn't think it was set to disallow, but I should have checked the filter log in any case. So thanks a lot. NativeForeigner Talk/Contribs 04:27, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

February 01

In general, a person or organization added to a list, as on February 1, should have a pre-existing article to establish notability. If you wish to create such an article, please confirm that your subject is notable according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:01, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean mate? What do I have to do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daveman1987 (talkcontribs) 08:11, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

It means that when a person's birthday is added to a page such as that, an entry with no corresponding Wikipedia article (David Michael Millward, in this case) is considered not worthy of inclusion. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:19, 12 October 2011 (UTC)


this is why wikipedia can not be trusted. cause so many people mess with things. -.- — Preceding unsigned comment added by DANIEL ALAN (talkcontribs) 05:12, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Like you. Let this assure you, our security consists of diligent people like me, and admins who block you from editing. →Στc. 05:15, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Vandal alert.

Sorry to bother you, but can you block Qcez123 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log)? He constantly put disrespectful (and unsourced) statement on a contestant of the show Pinoy Big Brother: Double Up. Also did the same thing one time on the Tomas Osmeña article. Already reported the guy at WP:AIV. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 23:45, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I've issused a final warning, and I'll try to keep an eye on him. --Bongwarrior (talk) 23:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
But that's a long term vandal I'm talking about. Issued him several warnings, but based from what he did hours ago, he didn't heed them. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 23:51, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Three days is hardly long term, unless there are other accounts involved that I am unaware of. --Bongwarrior (talk) 23:54, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
He just came back and he did it again. Apparently he didn't heed the note. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 01:45, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
PS: The guy has now been blocked as a result. - 上村七美 (Nanami-chan) | talkback | contribs 01:56, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Nyjer Morgan

Thanks... I was trying to figure out how far back I needed to go to clean that mess up! Tgeairn (talk) 00:11, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

No problem, happy to be of service. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:12, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Please review these blocks

There was a bug in MediaWiki 1.18 that caused blocks made via the API to have talk page access disabled when it should have been enabled. This also affected scripts such as User:Animum/easyblock.js. Please review the following blocks to make sure that you really intended talk page access to be disabled, and reblock if necessary.

  1. (talk · block log · block user) by Bongwarrior at 2011-10-05T06:50:13Z, expires 2011-10-19T06:50:13Z: [[WP:No personal attacks|Personal attacks]] or [[WP:Harassment|harassment]]

If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to post at User talk:Anomie#Allowusertalk issue. Thanks! Anomie 02:03, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I believe that was on purpose. Thanks for the heads up. --Bongwarrior (talk) 02:21, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


Bongwarrior, I see you have deleted my page about Kraken Dek Hockey, for your information everything in this article is factually accurate, nothing was made up or lied about. I see no reason for you to delete my page. Also what makes you an expert on the subject why do you have a right to delete my work. What is your incentive for deleting my page?

Dan61rusty (talk) 18:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC) Dan61rusty

Please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's notability guideline, which determines whether or not we should have an article about a given subject. --Bongwarrior (talk) 18:19, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

So you can't even tell me what is specifically wrong? How are you an authority on wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan61rusty (talkcontribs) 23:59, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm no authority, but I've been here for a while and I have a good understanding of what Wikipedia is and what it is not. The article's primary flaw is a very fundamental one: nobody cares about the subject, a dek hockey team created by you and your friends. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:12, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Funny. Don't worry about crap when you don't know anything about the subject. Which you clearly don't. For your information over hundreds of fans have attended our games. Show some respect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan61rusty (talkcontribs) 04:17, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Just spotted this conversation; hope you don't mind my jumping in.
Dan61rusty:  I haven't read your article, so I can't say for sure, but based on your's and Bongwarrior's comments above, I'd refer you (like Bongwarrior said above) to Wikipedia:Notability (WP:NOTE).  Basically, a reliable, independent third-party (like a local newspaper with an editorial policy for fact checking) must publish a story about whatever before it is considered sufficiently notable to be included on Wikipedia.  This ensures that someone, themselves independent from the topic, thought that this was something (at least some) people might be interested in, and it provides a source for the Wikipedia article to be compared against to ensure that what appears on WP is accurate and unbiased.  Odds are there aren't a lot of WP editors in your area who could attend your game(s) to verify what you might have said, and even if they did, that would be Original Research (WP:OR) which is not acceptable on WP.  (Note that for an article to demonstrate that a topic is notable, the article must be about the topic; it wouldn't be sufficient for someone in an article to just mention that they went to one of your games; just so you know.)
Basically, you have to contact your local newspaper and get someone who isn't involved with your thing to write a story (unbiased third-party), and get them (the newspaper or other third-party media) to publish a story about your games/league.  This will then be a Reliable Source (WP:RS) which will prove notability; but review WP:NOTE to make sure you've met all the requirements.  After than, you can re-create the article (including appropriate references to the WP:RS Source), and if anyone suggests that your article should be deleted because of WP:NN (Not notable) or for any other reason, you'll be able to argue your case citing the references you have from the independent third-party.  It seems harsh when someone else deletes your work, but I've seen Bongwarrior's name elsewhere (although I've never dealt with him/her before), and from all I've seen (s)he's just trying to make WP the best it can be (which includes not having a bunch of irrelevant articles about things which only a tiny number of people care about).  This is, after all, a global encyclopedia; and while the 3+million articles that do exist here represent way more than any other encyclopedia, they are all still stories which (could) be of interest to the entire English speaking population of the planet.  Don't get discouraged, just try to learn the rules and procedures (and there are quite a few of them and it takes a while) and then do what it takes to be able to create and keep the WP article you want.  (I notice that Bongwarrior didn't say (s)he deleted it because of lousy incoherent writing style, so you must be doing something right! Face-smile.svg)  Anyways, I hope that helps explain it more; and remember, just have fun!  — Who R you? (talk) 20:40, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Wadsworth's constant

Although I agree with the deletion, where was the deletion discussion? The Mark of the Beast (talk) 22:10, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

It was at a slightly different title: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wadsworth constant. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:13, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Ah. Thanks.  :) The Mark of the Beast (talk) 22:19, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
No problem, I really should have linked the discussion when I deleted it. Laziness on my part. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:30, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

I read an article about the Wadsworth Constant on Lifehacker this morning, and immediately came to Wikipedia to learn more about it, only to find that you deleted the information I came here to read. "&wadsworth=1" is now an official URL argument to a YouTube video's URL to obey the Wadsworth Constant and start playing 30% into the video. It's surprising; YouTube took it seriously enough to integrate it into their application, but it warrants deletion here. Rpdillon (talk) 22:32, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry you feel that way, but the deletion was entirely logical according to the Bongwarrior Principle. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:41, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Could you "unprotect" a certain article?

Excuse me, I'm new to Wiki, could you do me a big favor? I don't know who to ask, but I was wondering if you could immediately "unprotect" Genetics and archaeogenetics of South Asia so that myself and Andrew Lancaster could go in and re-edit the article. Plus, we recently edited/updated a few other articles and leaving this one untouched would leave it as a potentially contradictory source of info. I'm quite sure that whatever controversy over the article that existed before has died down considerably. Would be eternally grateful. Thanks.

--Bodhidharma7 (talk) 16:18, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I'd prefer to leave it up to the protecting admin, but he appears to be away right now. Put in a request on his talk page; if he doesn't respond within a week, I'll see what I can do. --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Sure, no problem.

Bodhidharma7 (talk) 22:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you...

... for clearing the vandalism from and protecting my Talk page. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 21:13, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. --Bongwarrior (talk) 21:19, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Deleted pages

Hi Bongwarrior, why have you delted the page that i just carefully created? all the information is accurate and valid, kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atelier-az-phootgraphy (talkcontribs) 23:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for blocking this guy, but have you seen this little note that he posted on his talk page afterwards? I don't know if that warrants a block extension or just a stern word, but I thought I should point it out. Absconded Northerner (talk) 10:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. No I didn't notice that, but I'd just ignore him. If he follows through, he can be dealt with then. --Bongwarrior (talk) 10:12, 16 October 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for fixing that mistake as my keyboard is being a bit finicky lately. It's good to know that people still care and don't just revert. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:46, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

No problem, the page has been pretty busy today. The whole thing is such a shame. --Bongwarrior (talk) 22:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

User talk:

Needs talk page access revoked. Calabe1992 (talk) 00:54, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Already done. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:54, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Page move issue

I have a user at Bondi Rockets Floorball Club that created duplicate pages in an attempt to get the page to the correct title. I attempted to move one duplicate page to clear the title but it didn't work as I wanted. If the duplicates could be deleted I'd appreciate it. Calabe1992 (talk) 01:06, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

No problem, done. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:10, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I realized I left one bad redirect, however, here. If that could be deleted as well I will move the page. Calabe1992 (talk) 01:12, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Also done. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:14, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
Excellent, hopefully we've done what they wanted. :) Calabe1992 (talk) 01:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

why delete it

MacForce3 (talk) 03:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC) hey I'm trying to put some credible info to pay respect to my C.O. because not may show him any for his accomplishments. this article about Johnathon MacDonald is like a biography for future reference of a great leader and a great person. can u at least give me this to pay him my respects for training me and teaching me some really great things that saved my relationship with my parents.This guy need some encouragement because people only do great things for a while before they get tired of it as they don't get the respect they deserve.

Sorry, but he isn't notable. Wikipedia really isn't the place to pay tribute to someone. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:07, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

File:Gombitova Nocne lampy.jpg

Hi, can you help me with a correct specifying of the image to avoid its deleting? What should I use instead "Invalid fair use rationale" for the file, please? It is a screenshot taken from a TV talk show. Thank you. Uzerakount (talk) 10:39, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't think there is one. Many of your uploads are okay, but too many of them are either non-free images used for decoration, or used to identify living people. For living people, it has to either be a free image or no image, with very few exceptions. --Bongwarrior (talk) 10:45, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I thought Wikipedia policy allows to use screenshots. Else we couldn't either use a screenshots from music videos... I believe that as for Gombitova, one picture for a well developed article shouldn't be considered as decoration but be that "exception". Sorry to bother but can you advise, please? Uzerakount (talk) 10:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
The rules for music videos and album covers are different than the rules for living people. There is no possible free substitute for an album cover, so it is usually acceptable to use a non-free image under a claim of fair use. The same is usually true for music videos, as long as the video is being discussed in the article, not just the song. For File:Gombitovascreenshot.JPG, there is no valid claim for fair use because it is replaceable: i.e., a free image can fulfill the same purpose. It is not necessary that a free image is readily available, only that one could conceivably be created, which is always possible if the person is still alive. If the person is deceased, then a fair use image may be permissible because it is no longer possible to create a free one. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:14, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing as above... It is a sort of difficult to manage all the rules for a non-native english person. One more question, please. As for Gombitova's screenshots I didn't use claim for fair use because it is "replaceable". I included in 'REPLACABLE' field that "the image is not replaceable by free content". Or am I getting confused...? Thanks heaps again Uzerakount (talk) 12:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
I modified the description details for Gombitova files. Hope it is alright.. Uzerakount (talk) 12:33, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
But it is replaceable by a free image that would serve the same purpose, so I don't think that will work. It can be kind of tricky - Wikipedia:Non-free content probably does a better job of explaining the difference between acceptable and unacceptable fair use than I am able to. --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
How could a picture that refers to a concerete event be replaceable by any free image. If so, in that case it must apply also for screenshots of music videos. I discuss the person and the issue itself (e.g. Car Accident of Marika Gombitova) in the relevant article. I left my comments on the discussion page of the discussed files, there is nothing more I can do about as it seems. Uzerakount (talk) 21:26, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I know that Hullaballoo Wolfowitz removed the files yesterday. Though, I think he'd wait unless discussion is not finished. I included today into all files' description that "a free equivalent is unavailable," which is true. But I don't know what more I can do. Thank you anyway Uzerakount (talk) 20:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for handling the "award" on my talk page last night

It's appreciated. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:19, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

No problem. Congrats, by the way :) --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:40, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Dan Wheldon

I think the crash image does belong. Dan's alive and well in the photo and the photo furthers the reader's understanding of the accident by illustrating it in a way which text cannot. I've made a more detailed comment on article's talk page and would appreciate your input before we decide whether or not to include it. N419BH 01:06, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Understood, thank you for letting me know. --Bongwarrior (talk) 01:19, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Why did my page get deleted?

I have been working on a wiki page since 6 pm today, right now it is 1am in the morning and my page has been deleted. I'm new to Wiki, so I don't know if it got deleted because I saved it before it was done... and I wasn't done with it. More information had to be put in like the discography. I was making a page about Jlcdlt. He is a recording artist. And he is notable enough to be on Wikipedia. He has fans in South America, the United States, Europe, the UK, Australia and Canada. Do you think I could make a page about Jlcdlt and not save it until it's complete? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popguru101 (talkcontribs) 07:56, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I've moved it to your userpage, where you can work on it as much as you like. However, I'm fairly certain that the subject doesn't meet Wikipedia's notability requirements, so I'm not sure there's anything you can do to make it more acceptable. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:04, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't understand how you are certain if I hadn't put sources in it yet and it wasn't even complete? And I read the notabiliy requirements. I'm have studied this artist enough and I am fairly certain that he meets those requirements. I would like to finish the page to the fullest, but I don;t want to spend hours working on it, so it can be deleted. How can I assure that it won't be deleted? Maybe it can be reviewed by a person that has done research about this artist's notability? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popguru101 (talkcontribs) 08:11, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

If you like, I'd be happy to review it when you are finished. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Why did the Jlcdlt page get deleted...again? Can you provide specific reasons? --Popguru101 (talk) 06:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Because Jlcdlt is not notable by Wikipedia standards. Facebook, Twitter, even iTunes - great for promoting an artist wanting to make it. This site is for those who have already made it to a level that at least a few reliable sources have commented on. Bongwarrior is just doing what the majority of editors would do, so don't take it personally. Doc talk 07:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

What the heck would I do with this?

Hi BongWarrior, I see you've been busy clearing out CSD tagged articles. I ran into this (Love_To_Be_Hated) and cannot find a suitable CSD rationale. Does it really have to be PROD'd or have I missed something? Best, ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN 00:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Much thanks. I thought it kinda leaned G11 but wasn't sure. I was skipping A7 since it wasn't quite talking about a company (just their product line). Thanks again, ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN 00:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. You picked the best possible course of action, which is to not tag it if you are uncertain, rather than to try to shoehorn it into a category where it might not fit. Sometimes it's painfully obvious that something needs to be deleted, but it's not really a speedy deletion candidate. There's nothing wrong with using prod in that case, but that wasn't necessary here. --Bongwarrior (talk) 00:32, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Oliver Tarney deleted

why have you deleted the page? You based your decision on a vandalised version of the article which I restored, which DID state his importance. At the very least it deserves to stand trial . Δελφι — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

No, I saw the correct version. There wasn't a big difference, and I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

If u saw the correct version, then why did you delete it. There was a claim of importance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

I read it twice, very slowly. There wasn't, honestly. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:08, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes there was. It said he was a prominent musician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:10, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Being a "prominent musician" is so vague that it means absolutely nothing. If you feel I have deleted this incorrectly or out of process, you are welcome to mention it at Wikipedia:Deletion review, which functions as a sort of oversight, but I don't believe you will find satisfaction. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


for the protect on Heather Mikayle‎ its been a problematic CSD. If you look at the primary author's contribs you'll notice that they've created it under other titles... might want to place a protection on them too, if you see fit. Cheers Petiatil »Talk 14:52, 21 October 2011 (UTC)