User talk:Bovlb/Archive 2012-05

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Note to self: [1] Bovlb (talk) 05:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

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For being a rational voice in all this. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:47, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. If I might offer a suggestion, please try your best to avoid being snarky or aggressive even when you're responding to the same. It might make you feel better, but it makes it harder for people to accept the point you're making. Better to be the one person on the thread who is above that. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 23:59, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
TBH, I've given up on WP _ever_ "accepting a point". Cliques and policies to hide behind, with no-one left who's remotely interested in building an encyclopedia. Have you read Uncle G's comments on his talk? They'd be unforgivable if it wasn't an admin making them.
I'm trying to stop editing altogether - just write stuff, then publish it as a one-drop operation. The fewer people who notice it's there, the less damage it suffers. Andy Dingley (talk) 00:05, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry you've been having such a frustrating time. There are several comments related to that thread that left me rather disappointed in the contributors. Regarding that thread, I really don't think you're likely to get any resolution better than "Some technical errors may arguably have been made, but they're well within the bounds of admin discretion or expected human error. No pattern of abuse. No admin action required." You might want to think about withdrawing it in favour of DRV where you can focus on the issues of each article separately. (Or perhaps just recreation with non-copyvio content in the case of Tamara Brooks.) Bovlb (talk) 00:26, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Mind you, I suppose I could be said to have a huge COI with Kraftwurx and now WP has managed to have one of my competitors perma-banned from having a WP article. By the standards of local wikipolitics, I ought to count that as a win! Andy Dingley (talk) 00:11, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Heh. I think this is where I'm supposed to admonish you for a battleground mentality. :) Bovlb (talk) 00:26, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

What does this mean. I am not sure how to interpret the above paragraphs. there seems to have been a request by a user to do or have something done about Kraftwurx? What exactly was asked and by whom? As far as we have seen, nobody has attempted to edit or post anything in months related to that posting but suddenly it is being discussed. Please be through in your response as to what exactly is the nature of this discussion and what exactly the nature of any issues are with that company and or the concerns expressed in this any related attempts to have some sort of change applied to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:34, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The conversation above relates to this discussion. To summarise the situation:
  • About six months ago User:Bcn0209 created a page on Kraftwurx. It was "speedily deleted", then briefly resurrected for discussion, and then deleted again for lack of notability.
  • A few days ago, User:Cwaldo39 created a different article about Kraftwurx, which was "speedily deleted", and the page was locked against further creation ("salted").
  • User:Andy Dingley then started the discussion thread linked above, suggesting that the deletion of an unrelated page, and the recent deletion and protection of the Kraftwurx page were not fully in line with Wikipedia policies. The discussion has ranged far and wide, and some tempers have become frayed. My prediction is that it will conclude that the page will remain protected, but that the protection can be lifted if and when an acceptable article is written.
If you are interested in there being a Wikipedia article about Kraftwurx, then my advice to you is to consult our notability for companies, and write an article that demonstrates notability in those terms. As I told the marketing department of my own employer: Show me three national news articles that are not press releases or passing references and you can have a Wikipedia article. I have reviewed all of the external links and references supplied in all versions of the Kraftwurx article. I'm afraid they all seem to be self-published, press releases, blog entries, or user comments. I hope this is helpful for you. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 06:07, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

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