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List 1: projected TFA dates[edit]

List 1
Article TFA date Rationale
Noye's Fludde 15 July 2016 St Swithun's Day
George Bernard Shaw 26 July 2016 160th anniv. of birth
Bessie Braddock 24 September 2016 Anniversary of birth
Jarrow March 5 October 2016 80th anniv. of march
Imogen Holst 12 April 2017 110th anniversary of birth
Horatio Bottomley 23 March 2017 Anniversary of birth
Jeremy Thorpe 29 April 1917 88th anniversary of birth
C. R. M. F. Cruttwell 23 May 2017 130th anniverary of birth
Percy Grainger 8 July 2017 135th anniverary of birth

List 2: FAs with no scheduled or projected TFA date[edit]

List 2
Article Promotion date
Ernest Joyce 17 July 2008
SY Aurora's drift 11 April 2009
The Ordeal of Gilbert Pinfold 16 July 2015
Handel's lost Hamburg operas 31 January 2016
S. O. Davies 6 May 2016


Reminder to me: check opera discographies - regularly.


Watch it! (prose and referencing)

Bayreuth canon[edit]

Update performance statistics each September.

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey[edit]

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The Signpost: 05 June 2016[edit]

Bach Cantata[edit]

Please move the Bach cantata back to the way it was in the FAC (which was also the way it was started, and what you read on critical editions), to be consistent with the lead. I think I should not do that myself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

I don't think I can do this. I've explained why I restored the version of the article that existed before the disruptive editing began. It's now up to all editors with an interest in the article to discuss and decide what amendments are necessary. Brianboulton (talk) 10:18, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
Not sure that I understand that. Moving it back to the name it had when approved would be part of restoring that state, imho. It was also the name under which it was created, and the name from 2011 to the recent move. I am sure that I should not do it, because I reverted once already, and try to adhere to 1RR. - I am happy that Reger's Requiem made it to FA, the second time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:31, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Gerda, I tried to make the move as you requested but was refused. I got the message: "The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name, or use Requested moves to ask an administrator to help you with the move." So the current name seems to be under some form of protection. I suggest you ask an administrator (which I am not nor ever will be) to assist. Brianboulton (talk) 16:55, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for trying, - I didn't think of that. As for adminship, you and I are in the same position ;) - Dr. Blofeld once kindly said it would make a princess a janitor, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:08, 21 June 2016 (UTC)


  • Hi Brian, I've finished scheduling June. I'm pleased to pass the baton over to you for July. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 06:23, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

TFAs scheduled January to June 2016[edit]

@WP:TFA coordinators: : I've updated the table which plots our scheduling against unused stocks. Nothing alarming – our proportioning is generally pretty close. Brianboulton (talk) 13:44, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

TFA scheduling January–June 2016 Target share Actually scheduled + or -
MilHist 33 31 -2
Biology 24 23 -1
Sports 18 16 -2
Media (films, tv etc) 16 15 -1
Music (all) 15 15 0
History/Politics 13 14 +1
Video gaming 11 11 0
Literature, theatre etc 10 11 +1
Transport 8 8 0
Meteorology 7 8 +1
Geography/geology 5 6 +1
Art, architecture etc 6 5 -1
Royalty and nobility 4 4 0
Business/econ/coins 4 4 0
Physics/astronomy 3 4 +1
Sundries (Religion, Law, Ed, Culture etc 5 7 +2
Total 182
Thanks for doing this Brian. It's always nice to see people taking their job seriously and enjoying the work. - Dank (push to talk) 14:08, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
  • Glad to see this. I would say to not schedule any sundries for the next two months, if possible. We had three last month (a bishop and two laws, both TFAR) — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:03, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
  • In other news, I'm getting some pushback on the June 28 article from the FAC nom ... nothing to worry about, I'm discussing it at WT:MIL. I'll report back when I'm in a position to make a call. - Dank (push to talk) 15:09, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Dr No[edit]

Hi Brian, Just a quick note to let you know that Dr No is now at FAC, so if you happen to be passing through at any point and wish to make further comments, I'd be grateful to receive them. No problems if you are still in your review 'purdah', obviously. Cheers. – SchroCat (talk) 07:52, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 June 2016[edit]

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Mr. Dooley[edit]

As I predicted I would do, I've left this at peer review. Hope you're doing well.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:00, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you (and some assistance)[edit]

Thank you Brian for the review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Port Phillip v Van Diemen's Land, 1851/archive2. While I have now cited all the statements, restructured one-line paragraphs, and removed the weird usages you had pointed out, I realise there is much still to do in the article. I have written to the editor you recommended; haven't had a reply yet; will request the editor again. You have mentioned over detailing as one of the issues; Casliber had mentioned earlier that I should jot down all that is available and then we could work on it. That's one reason I think I ended up doing excessive detailing. I will reduce it in the coming days. I just wanted to know if you could help me and point out the exact things/statements/paragraphs I should work on. I am ok if the current FA nom doesn't pass. But I wish the article does improve. So whenever you have time, it would be wonderful if you could just point out the lines/paragraphs that are not up to the standard and I will work on them. Thanks. Xender Lourdes (talk) 04:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting me. My WP activity is somewhat limited at present, and I am unlikely to be able to find time in the immediate future to help in the way you suggest. I think that the extent of attention that the article requires is a matter for a second peer review rather than this FAC; the previous PR was carried out before the article's expansion, and FAC was never intended to be an article-building forum. I'd say your best chance of getting it through would be to withdraw it from FAC for the moment, and open a peer review. If you can be patient I'm sure that help will come your way – in a few weeks I'll have more time and will definitely be ready to help then. Brianboulton (talk) 17:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Thank you Brian. I will try my best too to improve the article. And will come back to you in case I have any doubts. Xender Lourdes (talk) 10:59, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

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2008 vs 2016 "how TFA works" article[edit]

Good idea to do this, but I wonder whether it would best to find a new page for it rather that rewrite a 2008 archive. Maybe the 2016 Signpost would like to run it. If not, it could go to somewhere like Wikipedia:Today's featured article/Choosing TFAs, and then we can compare and contrast the old and new. BencherliteTalk 23:48, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

You are undoubtedly right, but whether I'll get round to it... Brianboulton (talk) 18:18, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Today's featured article/July 15, 2016[edit]

Pinging Sarastro1. You two nominated this one at FAC ... how does it look? - Dank (push to talk) 00:32, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Looks good to me – did I not ping Sarastro? My apologies - I intended to. Brianboulton (talk) 09:10, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
Great. On pinging, I'm not sure ... I always ping all the noms, unless they already know about it. - Dank (push to talk) 09:57, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
I wasn't pinged (the horror!) but looks fine to me too. Sarastro1 (talk) 17:27, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

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Nice to know the Americans are celebrating...[edit]

4th July 2006 Pacific Palisades HS Fireworks.jpg

...your birthday. Happy 21st! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 07:27, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

As they always do. Most kind of you to remember. Brianboulton (talk) 08:57, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

LIkewise from across the pond... Ealdgyth - Talk 15:37, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Keep up the partying on my behalf. Brianboulton (talk) 16:09, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Adding (music) from across the pond, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:52, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Much appreciated (not sure which pond) Brianboulton (talk) 16:09, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Happy Birthday Brian! Graham Beards (talk) 17:27, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
And to you. Graham, whenever that might be. Brianboulton (talk) 20:46, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 July 2016[edit]

Sonestown Covered Bridge[edit]

Hi Brian, happy birthday and thanks for thinking of Sonestown Covered Bridge for TFA. The bridge was damaged in the 2011 floods and has thankfully since been repaired and reopened, but I have not found many reliable sources on the repair to use to update the article with. My guess is that if I go to some libraries that keep newspapers I will find the needed sources, but I have not done that yet. So July 24 may be a bit soon for TFA. I am OK - pretty busy in real life. Hope all is well with you, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 23:24, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Nice to hear from you. No need to hurry over updating the bridge article – I'd like to run it some time, but it doesn't have to be this month. All is well, though at present I'm not as active as I once was as far as content creation is concerned. Pretty much I just do TFA, update my older FAs, and avoid hassles as far as I can. Brianboulton (talk) 09:16, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Alwats a pleasure to talk with you. I will let you know once the article is updated. The repair work to the bridge itself is obvious, but I would love to find sources that give the amount spent, dates for work done, etc. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:21, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Noye's Fludde[edit]

If the combination of the MT article and the page I sent you ain't enough I'm v. happy to mosey down to the BL for a spot of rummaging. It is genuinely a pleasure, so no 'no, no-ing'. Let me know. Tim riley talk 20:24, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the Herbert page. The two sentences in the article which are cited to the original Aldeburgh programme are:
  • "The Chorus of Animals was provided by children from three local schools: Sir John Leman, Beccles; Bungay County Primary; and the Heath Primary School, Kesgrave", and
  • "The professional element in the orchestra was provided by the English Opera Group players, led by Emanuel Hurwitz. The remaining adult players were a piano duet played by Viola Tunnard and Martin Penny, and the organist Ralph Downes. The children players, billed as "An East Suffolk Children's Orchestra", included handbell ringers from the County Modern School, Leiston; a percussion group, whose instruments included the slung mugs, from Woolverstone Hall School; recorder players from Framlingham College; and bugle players from the Royal Hospital School, Holbrook".

Some of these details are, as I've said, confirmed in the MT article already in use as a source. The following details, however, are not covered by either the MT or the Douglas page as seen:

  • The three local schools mentioned in the first sentence
  • The piano duettists
  • "An East Suffolk Children's Orchestra"
  • Woolverstone Hall School
  • Framlingham College

We need specific sources that mention these particulars. Will the BL have a copy of the original programme?

Thanks for taking the trouble. (I've just enjoyed a four-day total break). Brianboulton (talk) 21:44, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

This suits my timetable perfectly. I already had it in mind to toddle down to the BL today on an unrelated mission. I'm fairly certain they will have the original programme, but if not I'll see what else I can find as corroborative detail. Tim riley talk 07:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Reporting back[edit]

Modified rapture. I've found a couple of things, but the BL denies all knowledge of a programme for the 1958 première. I suspect they may have it but have not catalogued it – a lost cause either way.

  • The three local schools mentioned in the first sentence – nothing, alas, except that in Grogan's biog of the Blessed Imogen (this edition, p. 313) the participation of the Bungay lot is mentioned.
  • The piano duettists – no joy
  • "An East Suffolk Children's Orchestra" – is specifically mentioned in the Myers Musical Times article
  • Woolverstone Hall School and Framlingham College – are in the Herbert book, and I've swapped the citation accordingly.

Progress of a sort, but I'm sorry I can't do better. – Tim riley talk 13:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Excellent. I have deleted the sentence referring to the three schools (no sense in mentioning Bungay without the others), and I've also removed the duettists. I have re-cited the outstanding details to the Myers MT article. The original programme is no longer cited as a source; should it turn up later, we can reintroduce it. Brianboulton (talk) 20:57, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Life-long opponent of racial discrimination[edit]

Thank you for today's Learie Constantine, a Trinidadian cricketer, barrister, politician and a life-long opponent of racial discrimination! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:23, 15 July 2016 (UTC) ps: the day you were on Wikipedia 8 y + 8 m + 8 d --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:24, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

16 July 2016 thank you[edit]

Reger, Zwei Gesänge, Op. 144.jpg
16 July 2016

Thank you for helpful comments in the FAC, and for scheduling! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:43, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Margate F.C.[edit]

Hi Brian. See this discussion and the improvements I've made at the article. Do you think it passes muster for Aug 6? --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 10:31, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I'd say its almost ready to be TFA. There are still two uncited statements: "For the last two of these three seasons the team were playing in Dover" ("Supporters" section} and "This figure is unlikely to be broken in the foreseeable future, as even after its planned redevelopment is completed, the ground will hold less than half this number of fans" ("Statistics and records" section). It should be possible to cite these facts to reliable sources, but if you have difficulty you could simply strike the sentences. Also, a number of the citations are not properly formatted – see 16, 17, 34, 35, 39. You have twice cited "This is Kent" (95 and 104), but this is a nom-de-plume - the publisher is the Kent and Surrey Courier. These points need fixing. I haven't checked that all links are working as they should, but assume you will do this. Brianboulton (talk) 18:53, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 July 2016[edit]