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list of surviving starfighter aircraft[edit]

In addition to the list of surviving F-104 Starfighter aircraft, There is a model CF-104F on display I Innisfail Alberta legion Branch #105. If you google the legion branch and look under images you will see it as it is currently mounted.

The Beatles Invite[edit]

AbbeyRoadZebraCrossingRevisited.jpg Hi! I've seen you around on The Beatles' articles... Would you consider becoming a member of WikiProject The Beatles, a WikiProject which aims to expand and improve coverage of The Beatles on Wikipedia? Please feel free to join us.
Abbey Road... You're not in this picture... yet!

It all good!!![edit]

Thank you for posting the photo of The Otis Redding Memorial. What a beautiful person he was. He deserves any and all attention he gets. The statue is breath taking. I will be paying him a visit while on my way to Florida this year. Thanks again!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.255.112.185 (talk) 12:59, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much. You might like the statue of Ray Charles too. I took the photo if it that is in the article. Personally, I like the Ray Charles statue better. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:22, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
And thanks for bringing this up. I totally forgot about the pictures I took 4 years ago of the Ray Charles statue in Greenville, Florida. I added one of them to his article. Cheers! :) --Ebyabe talk - Inspector General ‖ 03:07, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
The one I shot was in Albany, Georgia. I had a heck of a time keeping it in WP because statues are copyrighted. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:24, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Shhhh! :) --Ebyabe talk - State of the Union ‖ 03:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Beatle[edit]

I was going to suggest it might actually have been a Rolling Stone, rather than a Beatle. In any case, it was a joke (and the bug looks much more like some sort of moth)-relative. I have really enjoyed your images though, great uploads! My 'professional' opinion is that it's a tree frog based on its toes. It's certainly not a member of the Ranidae. μηδείς (talk) 02:44, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. The one of the underside was taken from within my house. Then someone asked for a dorsal view and I went outside and used a flash (nighttime). I didn't account for the flash bouncing off the glass - I should have taken it at a little of an angle. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:18, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Troitsky line[edit]

Hi Bubba,

You haven't responded to the discussion on this topic for some time. Are you still thinking about it, or have you dropped out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martin Rattigan (talkcontribs) 09:19, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

I've pretty much dropped out. The positions you give as examples are exceptions of a sort, but they are where the side with the two knights is forced to give up a knight or unblock the pawn. In either of those cases, the statements no longer apply. Think of it as "if... then" - if the "if" part no longer applies then the "then" part is no longer a consequence. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 14:13, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Not position C'. The white king alone can prevent the black king from attacking either knight and there is no way for black to force white to abandon the blockade. I can't see how any interpretation of the antecedent could be regarded as false in this case. (C' would cover about 4000 similar cases if you count reflections.)
What you say could conceivably cover positions A and B, but then I think the phrase "securely blockaded" would have to be taken to mean much more than any reasonable reader would understand by it. It would need to be defined, and defined in such away as to turn the Troitzky line rule from a statement about positions into a statement about positions and the play following from those positions (which it was actually meant to predict).
Anyway I've solicited opinions on a number of chess fora and also from members of Schachgesellschaft Zürich and so far 100% of opinion is that the wording on the site needs to be changed in view of (any of) the positions I gave. (Admittedly with a very small response - it's obviously not a popular topic.)
I can make the changes myself if you prefer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.58.143.131 (talk) 23:14, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

(Sorry, that was me - forgot the twiddles again.)Martin Rattigan (talk) 23:20, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

White wins in that position. I have almost all endgame books written in English, but I don't know of a reference for the things you talk about. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 14:32, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
"Securely blocked" obviously covers the position where White has to release the block on the pawn in order to save one of the knights. ("Securely" is the word used by Muller & Lamprecht in FCE to handle these few cases.) Ask on the Wikipedia Chess Project talk page. And if you make such changes, you must have a verifyable third-party reliable source. A blog doesn't count - it has to be something like a commonly available book. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:21, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
And position C' is a draw because White can't get the knight on a8 out. But how did White get into that position? The knight on a8 had to come from b6, so why didn't black capture the knight when it was there? Well, there may have been something else, like an exchange of queens on h8, but then why did White move Nb6-a8?? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 03:21, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
The first respondent from the chess fora clearly took the phrase "securely blockaded" to mean no more than that the knight is in front of the pawn and not en prise, which is a reasonable interpretation but obviously not the one intended by whomever was the source of the rule as you now give it (Muller & Lamprecht I assume, but I'm surprised they added the phrase, "with White to move"). The other respondents also didn't think the phrase was sufficient to handle any of the cases I gave.
"White has to release the block on the pawn in order to save one of the knights", could only apply in the first of the positions I initially gave, but even there White has no reason to release the block and black has no reason to take the knight if he doesn't.
a b c d e f g h
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Possible precursor to position C'. White to move.
I agree position C' is unlikely, but it could result from a position similar to that on the right (with extra pieces if necessary) if white decided he could win the c7 pawn by Nb6-a8-xc7, but black defended the pawn before white could complete the sequence.
At any rate it's clear that the phrase "securely blockaded" needs clarification and that there are exceptions no matter how it is defined.
I think I would be inclined to write that "securely blockaded" is probably meant to imply that the pawn is blockaded and white can prevent the black king from attacking the blockading knight, or defend it if attacked, without leaving a knight en prise or the knights in an unrecoverable fork (probably not the right word here) in the process.
Since I've never seen any mention of exceptions, I would leave the statement of the Troitzky line rule as it stands with an attribution to Muller & Lamprecht (if you could confirm that) and add that there are obvious exceptions, showing diagrams A, B and C', and adding that with a more catholic interpretation of the phrase "securely blockaded" one or two of these could be considered as conforming with the general rule.
I'll think of some suitable wording and submit it to the board for approval.
Thanks77.58.143.131 (talk) 10:43, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
a b c d e f g h
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c7 black pawn
a6 white knight
c4 white knight
d3 white king
g3 black king
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Pawn is securely blockaded on c5 (or just is potentially ...)?
By the way, before we had the discussion on the talk pages I understood a fourth meaning of the phrase "securely blockaded", viz. as proposed in the preceding, but where "blockaded" allows for a gap between the pawn and the knight (see diagram right).
I have played a lot of these endings against the Nalimov DTM EGTBs and native Rybka (zeroing the 50 move counter as necessary) and haven't found any positions behind the Troitsky line (i.e. knight at most one square beyond the Troitsky line) where a gap affected the result. I've always assumed that this was Troitsky's intended meaning.
Do you know of any reference that discusses this point, or of a counter-example?
Martin Rattigan (talk) 11:59, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Please ask for opinions at Wikipedia Chess Project talk page. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:52, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

WikiChessDiagram.exe[edit]

Is this program yours? If so, please correct it to not use the “” parameter (|=content format). Currently it creates the following format:

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And the good format would be:

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Or place the comment wherever you want. Can you correct it? It causes that pages with chess diagram are placed in Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls and (since the last software update) there is an error message while editing (below the “this is just preview” text). I hope it will be fixed soon. Regards, --Tacsipacsi (talk) 06:28, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it is a program I wrote a few years ago. Thank you for telling me about the format - I went by what I had seen in chess diagrams. I used the program a lot to generate diagrams. I told the chess project about it but I don't know if anyone else uses it. I've seen cases where the comment about the program is in a new diagram, but they may have copied a diagram with that comment in it and modified the diagram. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 14:10, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
We use this program on huwiki. --Tacsipacsi (talk) 14:19, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I used to have the EXE available on my website, but I don't have my website anymore. However, I've put the new EXE in dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/e4gw7urw2nilknl/WikiChessDiagram.exe?dl=0

This version makes that change. This version also includes some other changes I was working on 2-3 years ago, but they may not be fully functional. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 17:27, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Waycross, Georgia[edit]

I saw you recently removed Waycross, Georgia from being in Pierce County, Georgia. Waycross is in fact both in Ware and Pierce counties. Per the commissioner district map here: [1] and comparing that to Google Maps when typing in Waycross [2], you can see that Waycross' boundaries extend across the Satilla River which is the dividing line between Ware and Pierce counties. --Mjrmtg (talk) 17:40, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

OK, sorry I didn't know that (and I was born in Waycross). Thank you for the correction. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 18:29, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Vandal reversion[edit]

I also think that the vandalism reduction in summer and the spike when school starts relate to the school year and who many of the vandals are. I assume most vandals are middle school and high school age boys with a few girls and college students mixed in. They are at their computers at school or maybe while doing homework which they don't want to concentrate on. They are apparently more active in social or other activities in the summer. The other vandals seem to be extreme POV pushers who don't understand that Wikipedia is not a blog or opinion forum and won't accept the guidelines even when pointed out to them. I think part of the vandalism problem is that there is no good way to get the message across about what Wikipedia is and what some of the main guidelines for editing are to new users before their vandalism starts. Welcome messages to all new users might be of some use, but they are only distributed if someone cares to do it while they are online as far as I know - and the links are probably ignored by many people who get them anyway. Donner60 (talk) 21:24, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Darien[edit]

I like those pictures you took. Darien was very pleasant, I wish I could have spent more time there. Looking back at the photos I took, I see it's coming up on 4 years since I was there last. Wow, the time, she sure do fly. Cheers!  :) --Ebyabe talk - General Health ‖ 22:37, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I took several more, mostly in the historical district. (The one at 3rd and Clark was my great grandfather's house.) Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 22:39, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

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West Darien Historical District[edit]

If you change the West Darien Historic District nomination form external link into an inline reference, you can get rid of the NRIS-only template and it won't come back. I'd do it, but don't want to take the fun away from you. There are many ways to do it, see Columbia City Historic District (Seattle, Washington) for how I do it. Generic1139 (talk) 22:33, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't know how to do it, I'll look at the article you gave. But if all of the text is based on the National Register, why isn't the template still appropriate? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:11, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
OK, I think I got it, using 2010a instead of 2008a. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:55, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
NRIS refers to a database that has some of the information from the nomination forms, but not all of it. From what I've been able to gather from reading old project talk pages (I'm not an old timer here), in the past, a lot of articles were written as mini stubs with just the information from that database. Arguments ensued has to whether or not that was a good idea, as it resulted in a lot of articles with little information and no context - and NRIS has some errors, like all databases. Articles with no references other than the reference to that database, via the nris template, get automatically tagged so they can be found and added to. In the case of your article, it does have additional information from the nomination forms - which makes it more than nris only. The automatic tagging is only averted if there are actual inline references, however, not just external links. To get rid of the NRIS-only tag, you need to add some info from the nomination forms into the text of the article and have an inline reference. That's what I was attempting to show you in the reference to another article that has them. Generic1139 (talk) 15:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Pictures[edit]

You've been busy lately, haven't ya? Reminds me of me, back in the day.  :) You're a better lifeform than I. I usually wait until it's cooler to do my roadtrips. More comfortable for all the wandering around, plus I think the ambient light is better in fall and winter. Plus with trees dormant, less obstruction of buildings. The driving seems nicer too. :) Do you take multiple pictures of sites? I always do, since if one or two don't turn out, you have backup. Nothing like going to Pensacola or Key West and having pictures not turn out well, as it ain't easy to just go back and retake. Though it's tough to take a bad picture in Key West. :) Anyhoo, keep up the good work and keep hydrated. I freeze various sized bottles of water (qt, half-gal, gal), so I'd have cold water the whole day. Sometimes keep an icechest too. --Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 23:38, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Actually, the water thing is partly from hurricane prep. I always keep a dozen gallons of water in the outside freezer. Haven't needed them for a while, and continuing to cross fingers in that regard. --Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 23:41, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
I went to Macon Thursday and came back late yesterday. I would normally take I-16, but there are many places along US 341 that needed photos. I came back north of I-16 until it got dark. Yes, I generally take several photos of a place. I had really ambitious plans for Telfair (needed 2 of 3), Dodge (needed 3), Bleckley (needed 2), Pulaski (needed 4), Houston (needed 2), and Peach counties (needed all 7), but Bleckley is a little off 341 and I skipped it because of time. Also, several places I couldn't find (street address not seen/GPS location not accurate enough, misidentified a couple, etc.) And some were on private property. And one was on a dirt road I didn't want to go down. I also picked up one in Appling County that I couldn't find the first time I was there. I also took some newer photos of some that already had photos. Yes, summer is a bad time for being out, but I was going to Macon anyway. I have more plans... Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 23:56, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

And a strange thing: there are quite a few photos needed in National Register of Historic Places listings in Bibb County, Georgia. But I wanted to concentrate on the more out-of-the way places. However, while I was in Macon, I thought that at least I would get two houses that are one block apart - #32 and #33. I found one but couldn't be sure of the other (couldn't find the street address number)- but get this - while I was on that trip, someone posted a photo of the one I could not be sure about! Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 00:44, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

See, you're not the only one out there taking pics.  :) Btw, if you need help finding stuff, I might be able to help. Lord knows I've been led down the garden path a few times on my roadtrips, and learned therefrom. :) --Ebyabe talk - Attract and Repel ‖ 16:57, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Well, I have a variety of problems. I would have a lot better success rate if I prepared more and looked up what it looks like. For instance, on this recent trip, I was looking for Taylor Hall in National Register of Historic Places listings in Pulaski County, Georgia. My GPS doesn't get me close enough - it will say "you have reached your destination" when it may not even be in sight. I saw three big houses, but they lacked street numbers. Then I saw a sign around the corner that said "Taylor Hall", so I photographed that house. When I got back, I found that it was the wrong house. Then I was looking for the library in Dublin and couldn't find it. Back home I looked up the NRHP form and checked the lat/long. It is actually 1' north (1.1 miles) of the lat/long in the file, so I missed it. And a few weeks ago in Bryan County I got in trouble twice for being on private property, so I'm avoiding that now. (It would help if I could get my wife or daughter to navigate, but they don't want to do it.) Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 23:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
If you need help on the prep front, I can help. I make Excel spreadsheets which I print out, so I have a checklist. Also I print out routes using Googgle maps. If you'd like me to do some of that research and email it to you, I have some free time to do so at the moment. :) --Ebyabe talk - Opposites Attract ‖ 16:13, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
You're kind of where I was the first year or so I was doing my roadtripping. Happy days. :) --Ebyabe talk - Inspector General ‖ 16:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Public buildings are usually not a problem. Usually either the address or the lat/long will work. Some of them only give the street name, not number. And most buildings don't have visible street numbers on them. Some street names have changed, though. And maybe they've been renumbered too. There was a case where I saw the 300 block and the next block should be the 400 block, where the target was, but there were no numbers there. It was actually the other way (I got that one on the second trip to Baxley, GA.)

And sometimes the lat/long is a mile off. And my car GPS will say "you have reached your destination" when it isn't even in sight. My biggest problem is with houses - few street numbers on houses and I'll get close but not know which one it is. I take a printout of the Wiki NHRP page for that county and use those addresses and/or lat/long. But for houses I do a lot better if I print out a picture of it so I know what it looks like. It also helps to get on Google Maps and look at that and maybe the satellite view. But I might can use your spreadsheets, especially if they have photos. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 19:00, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Willacoochee_River,_west_of_Ocilla,_GA,_US.jpg[edit]

Could you check your file description for this photo? It says west of Ocilla and also on the wiki page it says west of Ocilla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willacoochee_River, but on the text of the same page it says the "river rises ... east of Ocilla". When looking at Google Maps, I found the Willacoochee River is east of Ocilla, at its closest location to Ocilla being https://www.google.com/maps/@31.5103804,-83.1674489,15z --Mjrmtg (talk) 10:44, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

You are right - it is actually east of Ocilla. Thank you. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:05, 26 August 2015 (UTC)