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Page vandalism[edit]

To however keeps vadalising my friends User Page with your "see the truth" junk, it isnt big and it sure as heck isnt funny. Go add your gibberish on your own user page or something Jennytablina 09:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

United Kingdom[edit]

Why do you feel that stating that the UK is one of the world's most powerful nations is pushing a POV? A nation which has the world's fourth largest economy, second largest navy and considerable cultural reach (all mentioned further down the article in great detail) is surely a powerful country? This is said in the article on the USA in the introduction and it should also be emphasised in the UK article. (Ouip) (12th Jan 06).

The economy is mentioned later on, as is the navy so they aren't needed in the intro which is long enough already. The previous version mentioning the Empire seemed pro-Brit pov whilst the final line of your edit can also be seen as pov. - JVG 11:53, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


hi, i saw you entered population statistics for Littleport, Cambridgeshire, i assume you got the data from, please could you explain how you found that data, i want pop for [caxton, cambridgeshire]] and bourn, but i cant find it anywhere thanks Bluemoose 11:26, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Thanks a lot for dropping in to the Westport, County Mayo article! It seems there are quite a few Westport exiles in the UK on Wikipedia!--File Éireann 17:57, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Proteus infobox[edit]

Thank you very much for getting the Proteus infobox going. I had gotten started on it in a sandbox of mine, but I find those kinds of tables very troublesome to edit. --arkuat (talk) 02:42, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

New category[edit]

Of possible interest, [[Category:Wikipedians who are pilots]]. Best regards, CHAIRBOY () 18:54, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Gay rights in Iraq[edit]

You listed yourself as Roman Catholic so I thought I might bring this unencyclopedic total POV pushing article to your attention. It is currently up for deletion here. Chooserr 00:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Reverting GWB[edit]

The rollback button makes it easy, but I almost always get the edit conflict trying to add the {{test}} templates to a George W. Bush vandal's talk page. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 12:08, Dec. 20, 2005


Well done. Thanks :-) Jogers 13:38, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Dia Duit[edit]

Hi there! If you're ever short of a few subjects to do, we'd be more than happy to see you at Wikipedia:Irish Wikipedians' notice board. There's not that many of us, and we need all the help and opinions we can get. Cheers!Fergananim 21:26, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Deleted template substitution[edit]

I've edited your page semi-automatically to substitute the deleted template {{user bad EU}}. // Pathoschild (admin / talk) 00:00, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

The Game[edit]

I just lost the game.Sumthingweird 13:06, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Funny, I did too - Sir Grant the Small 20:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Crossing a flag[edit]

I would like to ask you not to cross an official flag on your user page. Imagine someone did that to that of your country. This is even considered a crime in many countries. I just regard that as bad manners. I am sure you are able to express your reasonable opinion in a respectful way. ROGNNTUDJUU! 20:41, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

You are not, however, free to forcibly impose your views upon others. I appreciate you raising the issue but it may be worth looking at the background of the person before you complain that they are being disrespectful to a flag. You asked me to imagine if someone did that to a flag of my own country when the crossed flag was of a entity to which my country belongs. You could find that out quite easily from the other Userboxes on my page (esp. the one saying I'm from the UK) and by looking up the members of the EU, who's flag was the one crossed on my page. - JVG 15:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to answer. I do not want to impose my views upon others. I am perfectly ok if someone expresses concerns about the EU or any other union. I am concerned myself about the agricultural subsidies and antidumping cases in the EU and US, for example. I however think that there are more respectful ways to express concerns than crossing out a flag many people fill represented by. I am sorry if I missed your user box when posting at your page. I just thought it would be more respectful to tell every user the reason why I listed the image for deletion as it was solely used for a user box that had already been deleted for being disruptive and was set up again on personal pages. What I got out of this is a massive amount of delete votes for a respect template I created and a massive keep vote for the respectless crossed out EU flag. But I also convinced some users that there are nicer ways to express their legitimate opinion, and I am thus sure that I achieved at least something. Have a good time here. ROGNNTUDJUU! 23:06, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

SOS save our Anglophiles!![edit]

Flag of England.svg This user is an Anglophile
Hi! :) i'm the maker of the Francophile/Japanophile userboxes. I'm contacting you to warn you that our fancy userboxes are in danger. Someone has decided to delete them and to replace them by a category "Wikipedians interested in UK" for Anglophile wich is totally weird, as England is not UK! Well you can support the "Anglophile/Francophile/Japanophile categories" by posting a "Keep" comment on the Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 August 16. The quicker the better, as the more we are to support it, the bigger the chance we still have is. (everyone can vote, not only those who have the userbox). Thanks. Cliché Online 01:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
p.s.: in order to find the thread more easily once in the Deletion Vote article, just press & hold Ctrl and press F (Find) on your keyboard to display the Search screen, then type Anglophile and you're in! ;) Cliché Online 01:43, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


Your user page got blanked again - I've just reverted it, but you might like to add another one to your vandalism count! (I, incidentally, live just round the corner from you, in Reach. Small world, isn't it!) Squeezeweasel 17:14, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


Thanks, I try to do my best :-) - Myanw 15:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)


Hey - this is Sabrina. Love is a Rose was modified by my mentor. He removed the lyrics and changed some things. It still needs some work, but I'm not sure what else I need to put.
If you have any ideas I'd be very thankful.
Oh, and can pages on things like singles ever be more than a stub?
Okies, have a wonderful day!
Saber girl08 14:50, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Okies, thank you. OH! I have over 500 edits...nearing 570! I'm so happy.
Have a wonderful day!
Saber girl08 13:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Ipswich Town F.C.[edit]

No problem. I wouldn't normally edit other clubs' templates, but the Ipswich one appeared to be quite out of date. Dean Bowditch wasn't listed on the ITFC official site as a squad member and his article (at the time) still listed him as on loan at Northampton, so I assumed that this must still be the case. Andy Rhodes also isn't listed as a player on the ITFC website, so I assume that means that he's not registered as a player any more - I'll leave it up to you to try to work that one out, you'll probably have more luck than me, me being an outsider!

It looks like the template (and maybe the individual player pages) could do with being monitored so that they can be kept up to date - maybe you would like to volunteer for the job? Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 00:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

You're right - funnily enough, I've just been on a crusade updating all of the Football League season articles pre-1929 (the year that Sheffield Wednesday was officially registered) that were ALL incorrect. I'll have a look at the main article too.
I'm not sure when Bolton changed their name, but I could probably find out with a few internet searches... Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 00:31, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


Okay, so you've been around here longer than me by a long chalk but recently I've seen you take interest in the ITFC articles. I was wondering if you'd take some time at the WP:FAC for History of Ipswich Town F.C. as I'm sure you can contribute to and improve the article. I'm working on an ITFC featured topic and this is the last article.... All suggestions welcome! The Rambling Man (talk) 22:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Heh, I guess you haven't looked at the sources for all of the ITFC featured content - Pride of Anglia is the number one reference! Anyway, thanks for your suggestion, if you have the time to contribute at the FAC then cool. Either way, happy editing! The Rambling Man (talk) 22:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Well in case you hadn't noticed, the history article is the last on my list for an ITFC featured topic - Ipswich Town F.C., History of Ipswich Town F.C., Ipswich Town F.C. seasons, List of Ipswich Town F.C. managers, List of Ipswich Town F.C. Players of the Year, List of Ipswich Town F.C. statistics and records and Portman Road. Pride of Anglia features pretty heavily - I've been in touch with the webmaster quite a bit! The Rambling Man (talk) 22:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Carrow Road[edit]

Hi. Thanks for the tags. As per Template:Fact/doc#Contraindications, you'd probably be better off using the {{unreferenced}} tag instead of littering with cn tags, unless you're planning to fix the problem yourself. A scattering of cn tags often aggreives other editors and can look pointy and there's no (erm) point in riling people when we're just trying to improve the encyclopedia. Incidentally, if you were looking to fix this yourself, there's a lot of referenced material on this topic in the relevant section of the FA Norwich City F.C.. Cheers, --Dweller (talk) 16:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wembley Stadium matches[edit]

Not sure why you left me a note on its prodding. I didn't create the article. - Dudesleeper / Talk 23:02, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Aorangi Terrace/Henman Hill[edit]

Following on from your comment here, would you like to vote in the move request? --Philip Stevens (talk) 13:54, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

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Happy Birthday[edit]

Have a brilliant birthday, Burwellian! All the best of luck and health in the year ahead. This wish was brought to you by the letters B, D and C. —what a crazy random happenstance 07:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

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East Cambs stuff[edit]

Hello from South Wales! As my username Burwellian suggests, I grew up in Burwell and have gotten a bit fed up of the state the village page is in. Again. I've tried half heartedly a few times to make a decent article out of it (about half of the content there before yesterday was my own doing over the past few years) but have lacked a bit of direction until looking at WP:UKCITIES the other day and seeing the Little Thetford article. I was curious if you've got any suggestions, advice, etc that could be benefitted from? I'd advise a hard hat if you're going onto the article at the moment as it's a mess as I'm kinda using the actual article for drafting as well, hence the in use template... - JVG (talk) 17:34, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

I am flattered that you are asking me for advice though I am really no expert. My initial approach was two-steps forward, one-step back. Like you I then found WP:UKCITIES which helped enormously. For Little Thetford I used the editorial facilities available to us all at Wikipedia: WP:RFF, WP:PR, then WP:GAN, WP:PR (again) and finally WP:FAC. The FAC was an horrendous process! Given the above, I can provide some overall comments which I hope you take constructively as intended
  • The lead does not summarise the article well. I would suggest leaving this until last. One point I would make about the lead. Who says it is large? Although the word large is not mentioned in MOS:words to watch, I would be careful of using it unless a WP:RS says it. Litteport is large and is verifiably so!
  • Bare external links should not be in the main body of the article - see WP:EL. At the very least convert them all to references using <ref>[http://somethwhere]</ref> but better is to use a relevant {{Citation}} template. If a link is not appropriate to convert to a reference it should be in the external links section. Avoid links in the external links section that are also referenced in the article
  • Much of the article is unreferenced. If you cannot find supporting sources with inline references for every paragraph or potentially contentious statement then such paragraphs and statements should be removed
  • The governance section seems inappropriatly political for an encyclopaedia. I recommemd cutting a lot of it. Consider what would need to be modified if there was a change in political party and remove all such detail - see Wikipedia:MOS#Chronological_items
  • Consider using prose instead of lists as per Wikipedia:MOS#Bulleted_and_numbered_lists
  • The Burwell Museum section is probably too WP:ADVERT and should be cut or significantly reduced
I have not looked at other article details such as prose, images, WP:RS nor WP:VERIFY. My above observations may assist getting through the editorial process (WP:PR, WP:GAN and WP:FAC) a little easier. I consider WP:RFF an earlier editorial process which I suspect is not needed here. I hope it helps. Feel free to drop me a line any time if you feel I can help further. Good luck
--Senra (Talk) 19:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
All useful; Governance was knocked together this afternoon but I'm aware it's pretty political so will prob revisit it anyway. I've barely attacked the lead yet and was kind of intending to leave it til last except it kept bugging me so I redid the first para at least. External links and references are also issues I've spotted, and the Museum is why I've tagged it as unsuitable and singled that very point out on the rather long to do list I've put on the talk page! The lists are mainly my notes to tell me what I'm planning to write in, so won't be staying :) Cheers for the reply, I'll copy this onto my own user talk page so I can refer to it easier if you don't mind? - JVG (talk) 21:18, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
No worries. Just been thinking (dangerous I know). The resources listed on my user page my be of use to you as they have mainly been developed for places and churches. Additionally, consider reviewing British Geology Survey for your geology section, specifically Geology Viewer and Heritage Gateway for local archaeology information
Oh thank you! Geology's the one bit I'm kinda dreading doing; love geography, but my geology is more than a little bit rusty. How does the Governance section seem now by the way? - JVG (talk) 22:01, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Looks better. Personally, I would remove Paice entirely due chronology and put Pym into the notable people section --Senra (Talk) 22:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Just checked the geology (I am not a geologist so you need to check this somewhere else too). According to Geology of Britain viewer, Burwell sits on an chalk outcrop. More specifically, it sits on a north-east to south-west running West Melbury Marly chalk formation with the southern most part of the village outcropped by a zig zag chalk formation.
Icknield Way probably passes nearby or through Burwell? That has historical roots (Iron Age?) and is a modern ramblers walk
  • The Times Tuesday 11 July 1786 p. 3, col.3 Extract of a letter from Cambridge, July 7th: Murder in Burwell
  • The Times Saturday 8 March 1851 p. 8, col. F A riot in The Fens
--Senra (Talk) 15:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Worssam, B C (1975) [1969]. Geology of the Country around Cambridge:Explanation of One-inch Geological Sheet 188, New Series (2 ed.). London: HMSO. p. 130. ISBN 011880068 Check |isbn= value: length (help).  Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help) {{quote|text=The principal locally-produced building stone is Burwell Stone, or Burwell Rock, from the [geological] horizon of the Totternhoe Stone in the Lower Chalk. Penning and Jukes-Browne (1881, p. 46) remarked of Carter's Pit, Burwell, that the lowest beds exposed were used only for interior work but that the over-lying 'bond' stone, 3 ft thick, if properly dried became very hard and made a good building stone. In a pit just to the south a block of it weighing 5 tons, and measuring roughly 100 cu ft, had been obtained. The blocks were shaped with a tool somewhat like a two-edged battle-axe, and allowed to get thoroughly dry before being used for building. In 1952 the 'bond' stone had been worked out at Carter's Pit, but compact unjointed chalk from below its level was being worked for external repairs to Woburn Abbey.
--Senra (Talk) 15:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Icknield Way passes just to the south, but will get a mention due to Bronze age findings on the Heath in the south of the parish as well; the A11 certainly looks like a Roman Road too and remains of a Roman villa are known in the village, but can't find a name for the Roman Road. The parish may only extend as far south as the A14 now, but it used to cover part of the racecourse as far as the old A11. The murder is news to me but the riot isn't, I still need to work the details of that out though. Chalk sounds right; there's that and clunch in the area and a few quarries, plus an obvious ridge extending north of the village towards Burwell Broad and Soham... *copies sources to Burwell talk page* - JVG (talk) 16:44, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


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Some images for you. I also have an image of the "Places to visit in Burwell" and "Welcome to Burwell Castle" signs, both produced by Cambridgeshire County Council. They are not suitable for uploading to commons. If you drop me an email, I will send you them both (for your research only of course). Senra (Talk) 15:44, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

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Just added some more stuff - I am about done now. If you need anything specific, just ask. By the way, if you have expanded the article five-fold or more within the last five days why not submit it to Did you know? Perhaps you could use "Did you know that ... the 51kg bell of the St Mary the Virgin Church clock was made by the Whitechapel Bell Foundry - the oldest manufacturing company in Great Britain?" Senra (Talk) 18:01, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I have a copy of Franklin, William (2005), Burwell The history of a Fen-edge Village, King's Lynn, Norfolk: Heritage and Marketing Publications Limited, ISBN 0954445694  if you need anything from it, just let me know. It is due back 9 November 2010 and can be renewed (if no one requests it) three times. Chapters are
  1. Topography and Archaeology
  2. The Development of the Village
  3. The Period of Turmoil
  4. Manors
  5. Medieval Life
  6. Churches and Chapels
  7. Open Fields
  8. The Post-Medieval Burwell
  9. The Enclosure
  10. Fen Drainage
--Senra (Talk) 19:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


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Happy Birthday[edit]

Burwell, Cambridgeshire[edit]

Hi there! (I would've put these comments on User talk:Burwellian/Burwell, but it looks like space has been reserved. :P

So, on my cursory review of your draft, I'll list my comments below...

  • Nice work on expanding such an article, though; it is difficult to put so much into such a small town!
  • Frankly, it is amazing that you've been able to find this many sources about Burwell. On a preliminary run-through, it seems like you've got all the content readily outlined. The only thing I can really suggest for you is that, if you want to put Burwell through GA, you'll need to format the references in some manner. Take a look at Template:Cite web and its sister templates.

Presently, I find that the actual Burwell article meets the criteria to be C-class. My primary concern is that it is not comprehensive, but it looks like you are well on track to fixing that problem, especially given the extensiveness of the subpage variant of the Burwell article. Nice work on achieving your short-term goal. :) --Starstriker7(Talk) 05:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

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Hi I was just looking at your user page (being a former Burwellian myself) and noticed your draft article for Burwell Village College. It may be worth mentioning in this article that BVC was not always a primary school. In the 1970's/early 80's Burwell followed the Suffolk system of schools (primary, middle and upper). At this time BVC was the middle school (age 9 to 13 if I recall correctly) and there were two primary schools (Ness Road - now a housing estate, and Parsonage Close, which I think is now sheltered housing). I think it must have been around 1984 when BVC became a primary school. I have no citations for this (I only know because I was there!) but there may be something in some council archives. I hope I am not teaching you to suck eggs/stating the obvious as you may already know all this! --RE73 (talk) 07:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

I was aware of it not always being a primary, so was as least partly aware of the old set up; I lived for a few years on the former school site on Ness Road and I know some of my teachers at primary had been teaching in the village since before the school was a primary. I'll need to find sources for it, but the main village article is my main priority tbh! Thanks though :) - JCJ (talk) 08:47, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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