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Draft:Glasgow Life[edit]

Just getting in touch re. recent deletion under "speedy deletion" of my Glasgow Life.

Could I request you send over the original markup as it was before deletion please, and place it somewhere I can access.

I also wish to strongly contest the basis for deletion. The reason you gave was "unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic". Whilst I'd accept some rewriting may well have been required, I contest it was "unambiguous advertising", not least I have no involvement with the organisation and no wish to promote it. I'm simply a resident of Glasgow, who was perplexed there was no information on wikipedia in relation to it.

By way of explanation/justification for the article, Glasgow Life is a distinct body from Glasgow City Council. It controls a huge budget, with a big impact on the lives of us living in Glasgow. It is one of the largest operators of facilities in the UK. It is poorly understood both organisationally, and what it does, and I felt it merited the article.

There are already existing articles for facilities/organisations of a comparable sort, which include:

I hope that goes some way to outlining both the basis, and comparable organisations that already have pieces on Wikipedia.

With thanks for your time,

Rleyton (talk) 09:49, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Rleyton Greetings. Glasgow Life has been deleted by HickoryOughtShirt?4 and understand that you have contacted them. You could request the deleted article to be restored on their talk page or request it at WP:REFUND by following the instructions. I could not commment much about the deleted article as since it is deleted and I cant view the content at the moment. When the deleted article is restored, you can pop back and let me know and I see what I can help by then. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:20, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, appreciated Rleyton (talk) 10:27, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Rleyton Welcome. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 10:32, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Still pending a response from admin, but discovered a version of my article in a suspended tab that is mostly there. Version is in my sandbox. I've also collated further info on User_talk:Rleyton I intend to incorporate when I have the original restored. Anyway, would appreciate comments as to what needs fixing/removing/improving in my sandbox Rleyton (talk) 18:55, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
I have restored to User:Rleyton/Glasgow Life with the recommendation to find more third party sources. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:27, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
HickoryOughtShirt?4 Thanks for informing. Best. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 03:50, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, appreciated. I'll work in the various other sources I've already identified, restructure a bit, and await a response re. original G11. Rleyton (talk) 19:54, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Just on the off-chance, I've finished a reworked draft (in my sandbox this time), and submitted it for review User:Rleyton/Glasgow_Life#Glasgow_Life Rleyton (talk) 19:48, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Rleyton I have reviewed the page and removed all the deem promotional sections/texts. Your article has 2 issues - one is promotional material/texts and second is lack of independent, reliable sources. Do note Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, content inclusion of company officers, budget, details of services and etc are for a company/organisation brochure/newsletter which is deemed promotion. The content should be those source that is independent from the subject and the source need to be reliable. Any sources associated/affiliated with the subject is considered not independent. Relaible source are those from reputable published agency such as from major newspaper. The article should be what other talk about the subject. In short, we need significant coverage (3-5 sources) of independent, reliable published sources (such as from major newspapers) where by the sources talk indirect about the subject in depth and in length and not passing mentioned. Here we have only one independent, reliable from BBC. We need at least two more at the current stage. By the way, do you work with the organisation? or in anywhere related to them ? Let me know if anything I could help. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:59, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

May I be a student in Counter Vandalism Unit?[edit]

I have to get rollback rights for using Huggle, but first, I have to go to CVUA for handling vandalism. Cheers! CentralTime301 19:03, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

CentralTime301, Good day. I have a look at your user page and you state "Even though I am an experienced user, I do not want to be an administrator on the English Wikipedia, because I may abuse admin tools and either remove my admin rights or be indefinitely blocked. Would you please explain to me what kind of abuse you might carry out? Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:30, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Since you told me about that even though I am experienced but does not want to be an admin, the reason why is because I might protect pages and block users when they don't tell me so. Cheers! CentralTime301 11:30, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
CentralTime301, If an editor does not make any vandalism edit or the page does not meet the criteria to be protected, even if you are not admin, it would be inappropriate to report of such incident to WP:AIV. The motto of counter vandalism unit academy is civility-maturity-responsibility. Your thought of the above would be not suitable to be in the program for that would go against the maturity and responsibility of a vandal fighter.11:37, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

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Draft:Agar Maqnat[edit]

Sorry about the incomplete article. I'm a bit of a novice to wikipedia, so I had no idea how to move an article to that section. I will work on finishing it up when I can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HiddenHistoryPedia (talk • contribs) 01:09, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

HiddenHistoryPedia Greetings and no worries. Do check out WP:Your First Article and WP:REFB on how to write an article in Wikipedia and how to provide inline citations (sources). Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

about the Draft:The Nation Builders[edit]

I add citations but any user has removed citations . -Vivek ji123 , 12 Nov 2019 11:33 AM ,(UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivek ji123 (talk • contribs)

Vivek ji123 Good day. Pls see the explanation from the editor HERE. Kindly read WP:Your First Article and WP:REFB on how to write an article and providing referencing in Wikipedia. Cheers. Once you have read the info as per links provided above and you still have questions, then pop back here.Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for this information Vivek ji123 (talk) 06:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Vivek ji123 You are welcome. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:18, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Martin Nguyen/ONE Championship[edit]

"Subject fails WP:MMABIO notability for he has not fought in any top tier promotion. Subject needs to have at least 3 fights to pass the notability guidelines. One Championships is not a top tier promoter." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Martin_Nguyen

I'm just looking for clarification on why ONE Championship is not considered a "top tier promoter" in the eyes of Wikipedia. And for criteria going forward. ONE Championship is not only an equivalent, but a larger promotion on a global scale than what Strikeforce was (which has/had a page and its fighters were included) as well as current active organizations such as Bellator and Invicta FC. Both of which meet criteria of notability.

I'm just trying to figure out the distinction between them and ONE Championship as ONE is bigger on a worldwide scale than either of those yet does not get the inclusion (especially Invicta which is minuscule by comparison). I began with Martin Nguyen as he has a place in organization and MMA history with multi-division title wins, but also because he is included on other Wikipedia pages such as the Italian Wiki (https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Nguyen).

If I can understand why ONE Championship is being excluded on this basis when smaller organizations are being included, it will help with future submissions.

I appreciate your work and just attempting to get clarification for moving forward with future edits for ONE Championship fighters.

All the Best! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ACCBiggz (talk • contribs) 06:18, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

ACCBiggz Good day. Pls see here - the last message thread - Martin Nguyen's Wikipedia page where the editor asked the same question. Once you have read it and still have questions, then pop back here. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). CASSIOPEIA(talk) 06:26, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

aboutdraft:Uno Lai[edit]

Good day! my submission just got declined by saying "references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article", but i do reference with detail info, and i have no idea how to improve it. ULDAsabrina (talk) 10:17, 12 November 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ULDAsabrina (talk • contribs) 08:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

ULDAsabrina good day. We need significant coverage from published independent, reliable sources sources such as from the major newspapers or books to verify the content claimed. Sources need to talk about the subject in lenght and in dept and not only passing mentioned. Sources which is associated/affiliated/marketing/interview/home page/user generated sites are considered not not reliable or independent and can not be used to support the notability claimed. Pls read WP:Your First Article and WP:42. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 08:11, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Pulanaivu[edit]

Hi there, I have just improved this article after you declined it in May and November 2019, based on previous contributions by other users. I have added sources and formatting, and it is a fine film article now. There is no reason such as no notability anymore as there are reports by local news. Hope the article stays, it is a film that will be screened nationwide in Malaysia. Can't compare the film to English-language film articles who receive widespread coverage. Notability reasons such as lack of film reviews or box office can't work, because the film is not yet screened. Thank you ;) LoveFromBJM (talk) 14:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

LoveFromBJM Greetings and pls see comment at draft page. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 14:26, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi, noted, but i just don't get it, why you guys need to make things so trouble and frustrated like this? It seems like the only purpose of these drafts or declines is to prevent any article from being created by citing any reasons. First this, then the next, endless reasons to keep the article away (asking in a polite way) Is there a chance that it will be published when box office or more sources added? Astro is not sponsoring them, just reporting news in press manner, other film articles cite these kinds too. Movie articles don't always need to be aired to be at here, right? and it got sources. Thank you, LoveFromBJM (talk) 15:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
LoveFromBJM For a page to be accepted in Wikipedia main space, the subject need to be notable and the content claimed need to support by significant coverage of published independent, relable sources whereby the sources talk about the subject in lenght and in dept and not passing mentioned. Sources such as from newspaper and books are good source. Pls see WP:42. Once you have sources from newspaper (sources can be in any languages), reviews and resubmit. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:20, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Malaysian films typically do not have reviews published by newspapers or reviewers. So any suggestions on that? If I add more independent sources reporting only, will it be accepted? can't compare the style to English film articles though LoveFromBJM (talk) 15:27, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
LoveFromBJM if you would find that (at least 3), then add them in and we will review it. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 15:34, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Some sources has been added, and fandom website source has been removed. And I would like to explain these listed sources:
1) Bernama News, reliable local news, you can check it
2) Astro Ulaagam: Astro Ulaagam news is considered independent new source under Astro, merely reporting on the news of the film, like CinemaBlend, Deadline which always has these kinds of news and are cited in articles. Plus: Astro is not the TV Network of this film, Astro Ulaagam always reports on local Tamil films to help the films, it writes in non-demanding favor, unlike other fandom or taboo website.
3) Anegun News, local independent newspaper, in Tamil
4) Malaysia Gazette, local independent new and critic website, in Malay


-all the sources listed are written well, in reporting manner. You can read the source articles. This is surely enough, if it is published, i will add on box office coverage as Malaysia will reports on this and add more in future. Thank you LoveFromBJM (talk) 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
LoveFromBJM I have reviewed it once and will let other reviewer to work on this draft. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:16, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
You mean you will pass the draft to other reviewers? Will you notify them? If not; it's okay, noted, thanks LoveFromBJM (talk) 04:44, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
LoveFromBJM No need to notify as one of the reviewers will review it when they com across it. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:51, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
noted thanks LoveFromBJM (talk) 11:14, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Israel Adesanya[edit]

Hi there, I would like to report the user NEDOCHAN for persistent edit-warring and bad faith per below:

  1. User keeps removing NPOV info for no good reason (WP:IDONTLIKEIT, "not relevant" etc). Even after I reworded the sentence to remove any ambiguity/UNDUE and quoted the subject himself per your suggestion, user continues to delete it (It is a fact that Adesanya moved to New Zealand to get i) better education ii) which he later found to be not the case. According to user its fair to mention i, but not ii. This is clearly in violation of WP:NPOV as Adesanya stated the same thing on JRE this week.
  2. User keeps talking in circles, and keeps bringing up concerns that have been already addressed before (1, 2, 3).
  3. User keeps misrepresenting his unjustified removal as a "compromise" when a) that is exactly what he did in his original edit which he himself admitted to here) and b) he has already been made aware that NPOV is "non-negotiable" and cannot be "compromised" on.
  4. User just created a 3rd discussion thread to further convolute discussion, as if 2 threads weren't enough.
  5. User continues to obstruct and demonstrate bad faith, and this has been going on for over a month now. Please advise. --Retrofan781 (talk) 09:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Seek consensus for inclusion. Cass is not consensus and is no different from you or me. There is a proposal on the talk page. Oppose it and see who else agrees. Simple.NEDOCHAN (talk) 09:51, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
@Retrofan781 and NEDOCHAN: Guys, Good day. As mentioned to both of you before, if there is a dispute on content/content inclusive, please take it to the article talk page for there might be other interested editors would like to participate in the discussion instead, both of your have partial of the discussion in article talk page and partial of the discussion in your talk pages. I Will copy this above message to the article talk page and since I am request to comment, I will respond there as well. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 11:18, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
I know how it works, thanks. And I started the appropriate discussions on the talk. It's not my fault I was pinged here and I'd appreciate it if you stopped suggesting it is.NEDOCHAN (talk) 12:38, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
@NEDOCHAN: I am not suggesting but just based on the previous edit of yours HERE. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:42, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Katupitiya Walauwa[edit]

Hello! Mr.Cassiopeia This is a about Katupitiya Walauwa. I just want to say thank you helping me for edit this page. it is a missing place in sri lankan. So I'm writing about this article. So i need your help for edit and get nominate for this article.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wishmithak (talk • contribs) 12:19, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Wishmithak Greetings. There are at least 4 messages from 4 different editors informing you that the subject fails the notability guidelines and links and advice has also given to you on how to improve the issues in your talk page thus please read them. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~).. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 12:31, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

New article about Norwegian artist -Draft:Ross Kolby[edit]

Dear CASSIOPEIA,

In Febuary I tried to write and publish an article about a Norwegian artist. It got refused twice and I gave up. Now I have tried again.

It is in the Sandbox and is about the artist Ross Kolby. What is the next step now? I was told last time that my subject is notabile and worthy an article. So far so good. I have now tried to make the article as neutral, good and in accordance with the Wikipedia rules as I can.

Could you please skim through it? I don't know how to proceed now.

Best regards,

Constituto Constituto (talk) 17:23, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Constituto Greetings. Comments have been made in Draft:Ross Kolby. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:31, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi, and thank you for your quick answer. I have rewritten the whole article. I now have a new text without all the old links out in the Sandbox, and with two new photos from Commons. It is this new article that I would like to have read. How may I have someone to rad this new article?

Best,

Constituto. Constituto (talk) 17:37, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Constituto As mentioned in the draft, you need to first read WP:Your First Article, once you have done that and still help, the pop back here. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 18:02, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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