- 1 Comment on Robert's talk page
- 2 Aro
- 3 ANI
- 4 SPI
- 5 Disambiguation link notification for January 23
- 6 Correct use of sources
- 7 A small problem about Jomolhari
- 8 Ngathrek Golop Lhakpa
- 9 Questions about Padmasambhava
- 10 Dzogchen in India
- 11 ArbCom elections are now open!
- 12 ArbCom elections are now open!
- 13 Category:Academic institutions currently affiliated with the University of Mysore
- 14 Some Tibetan characters looks too close in DDC Uchen font
Comment on Robert's talk page
- @ZuluPapa5: Thank you. Actually that diagram makes more sense than the article ever did. From it I gather followers of Aro gTér consider Khandro Dechen to be a rebirth of A-shé Khandro (who was in turn a child of Khandro Yeshé Réma aka Aro Lingma) and Ngakpa Chögyam / Ngak'chang Rinpoche to be the rebirth of Aro Yeshe who was in turn the rebirth of a-Shul Pema Legden and the son of Khandro Yeshé Réma and a-Shul Pema Legden. Whether these predecessors were actual flesh and blood human beings in the mundane physical world or some kind of Sambhogakāya ḍāka and ḍākinī Ngakpa Chögyam saw in a meditative vision (or maybe both) I'm not clear. Presumably Ngakpa Chögyam "remembered" the Aro gTér teachings from his previous rebirths, or had them revealed to him again in a vision of Aro Lingma / Khandro Yeshé Réma. Cool. I live in Bhutan where people believe in all sorts of things like this and I have no problems with any of it. If the Aro gTér teachings which Ngakpa Chögyam gives benefit some people and give them realization, then great. Nobody but the people who actually do the practice are in a position to judge this. However it is rather difficult or impossible to substantiate any of this "lineage history" by Wikipedia standards though ~ unless these things are simply presented as the beliefs of followers of Aro gTér - in which case it shouldn't be too difficult. About the content of the Aro gTér teachings, I'm not sure that Wikipedia (or the internet in general) is the best place to explain details of any Dzogchen and tantric teachings. Chris Fynn (talk) 12:33, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
- I have filed an SPI here naming LilyW, JosephYon, ZuluPapa5 and Arthur chos. Montanabw(talk) 21:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
- Montanabw Yes - amazing that a new editor like Lily_W (BTW not LilyW) seems to be familiar with things like ANI. I know it took me several years editing Wikipedia before I even knew about that. Anyway an SPI may help clear the air one way or another - it is pretty bad when people start making accusations of "religious prejudice" against other editors. Chris Fynn (talk) 22:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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Correct use of sources
Could you please help to explain the correct use of sources to a new editor/ScientificQuest (talk)? The discussion is atTalk:Anatta/Archive 3#About Reliable Sources for Articles on Religion. Thank you JimRenge (talk) 17:54, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I am very glad for your font. But I found a small problem, when I opened Tibetan Shorthand Contractions (created by BabelStone), I found several Tibetan syllables positioned incorrect in Jomolhari; but after switching into Microsoft Himalaya, all of them looks normal.
And I copied them in BabelPad, the problem looks the same.
- I should mention that I would not have been able to create that page without the help of Chris, who provided me with the source documents. For reference, the sequences that render with a dotted circle with Jomolhari (Version alpha 0.003c 2006) on my Windows 7 system are:
- དངྲོུབ་ (normalized from dngruob to dngroub)
- ཆྲིུན་ (normalized from chruin to chriun)
- ཆྲོུལ་ (normalized from chruol to chroul)
- Three of the sequences are in non-canonical order on my page, but it seems that the Wikimedia software automatically normalizes, so it is impossible to show these three sequences on Wikipedia as they should be (in logical order). All these sequences render OK for me with Microsoft Himalaya. BabelStone (talk) 10:16, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Questions about Padmasambhava
I apologize for bringing this up so suddenly, but there is a post on the talk page of Padmasambhava that puzzles me a bit. It is written by the user Joshua Jonathan and he directed me to you. English is not my second language, and i was wondering if you perhaps could help me. The text is fairly long and i apologize for any inconvenience
My questions are:
Do the writings about Padmasambhava being a murderer and interested in underage girls have any historical accuracy? Or are they "historical fiction" as was said in the quote?
Are ALL stories about Padmasambhava transmitting buddhism to Tibet just made up by 13th century monks? What is the historical consensus on Padmasambhava? Was he some kind of master of tantra who introduced buddhism to Tibet, or a murderer who was into little girls? Or was he a regular buddhist missionary or something in between?
Dzogchen in India
I figured out what is going on with Khunu Lama saying there is Dzogchen in India. If you read The Holy Land Reborn by Toni Huber, its clear that Tibetan Buddhists projected their own fantasies upon India.VictoriaGraysonTalk 18:19, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- @VictoriaGrayson: But Victoria, Khunuu Lama was Indian not Tibetan - and he had travelled on pilgrimage by foot the length and breadth of the Indian subcontinent, in the days of the Raj and after, meeting scholars, mendicants, and sadhus of all traditions. He was one of the most down to earth people I have ever met and certainly not one to project fantasies. Sometimes he was sometimes critical of Tibetan Lamas for doing just that. He told me that he had also translated for some Indian yogis practising Dzogchen who visited eastern Tibet. Of course I have no evidence, other than his first hand account for this - but I regard him as a knowledgeable and reliable witness. If a Tibetan Lama, or anyone else had told me I wouldn't have beleived them. However since Khunu Rinpoche told me about this shortly before his death over 40 years ago it is possible, even likely, that this tradition has also disappeared by now - so perhaps we will never know for certain one way or the other. BTW I'm in Kathmandu just now. Chris Fynn (talk) 18:56, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- @VictoriaGrayson:Because some, many, or even most Tibetan Buddhists misrepresented or misinterpreted what they encountered in India based on their own deep pre-conceptions it does not follow that all Tibetan Buddhists necessarily did. Unlike most Tibetan Buddhists khunu Rinpoche (who was very Indian in his outlook and habits) had a deep knowledge of contemporary Indian religion and philosophy while. Most native Tibetan Buddhist scholars read texts written and translated into Tibetan centuries ago - and that too filtered by centuries of Tibetan commentary and dogma. Khunu Rinpoche studied over 50 different traditions of Hindu philosophy and religion that were still alive in his day and wrote the only book in Tibetan I've ever seen which criticises recent schools of Indian thought (such as Swami Vivekananda's neo-Advaita Vedanta) from a Buddhist perspective. (He even had a good understanding of different denominations of Christianity and Islam). He taught Sanskrit to Hindu scholars at BHU in Varanasi and other places for many years and could quote most of the major Hindu scriptures and commentaries from memory - so I think it unlikely that he would confuse any Hindu system with Buddhism. He thought Tibetans should study the original Sanskrit (and Pali) Buddhist texts rather than simply relying on their Tibetan translations and commentaries. He did teach that Buddhist meditation and Tantra shared a lot of method or means with Hindu meditation and Tantra, and that outwardly it was easy to confuse the two but that the Mahayana motivation and Buddhist philosophical view combined with those means were completely different (even diametrically opposed) - and so the two should in no way be confused.
- Anyway it is probably rather pointless to try and convince you - and, since I've never actually tried to claim in an article that there is an Indian Dzogchen tradition, there is no real purpose in you trying to convince me. I did read Toni Huber's book once - and agree with much, though not all, of what he has to say. Scholars are often prone to take their pet thesis and the supporting evidence they have assembled just a little too far and try to apply it to or use it to explain more things than warranted. I think I only mentioned what Khunu Rinpoche told me in the first place as a way of suggesting that western scholars may not yet have all the facts and that we should be very cautious. I've read several different learned theories and speculation on the origins of the Dzogchen tradition and, so far, been convinced by none - I don't believe there is yet any real consensus let alone some sort of clear cut historical evidence. Anyway I don't think I ever said Khunu Rinpoche claimed that Dzogchen originated in India - just that he said that there was a living (though very small) Dzogchen tradition in India ~ which is not quite the same thing. Chris Fynn (talk) 21:25, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
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Category:Academic institutions currently affiliated with the University of Mysore
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Some Tibetan characters looks too close in DDC Uchen font
Hi Chris, I found some Tibetan characters seems so closer when use DDC Uchen font to read article. For example, in Pentaglot Dictionary article, ཛུའི and ལོང་། looks nearly have no distance. Could you please making kerning adjustments for them? -- Great Brightstar (talk) 02:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC)