User talk:Calton

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It's clean-up duty, mopping up after the dishonest, incompetent, and fanatical. Can't imagine why you'd have a problem with that.

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Nomination of Luke Edwards for deletion[edit]

I tried looking for the Articles for deletion page where the relevant discussion would take place. There was no such page until less than 30 minutes ago. I wasn't wrong to delete that template since there was no such page. Kingjeff (talk) 20:08, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

I have been here for a while. But the point I was making is that this page was created about 12 hours after this edit. The "Wikipedia:Articles for deletion" page wasn't created when I deleted the template from the article. Kingjeff (talk) 00:44, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

The issue is you didn't complete the process immediately. I took down the template after around eight hours without any deletion discussion page being created. This could have been avoided if everything was done immediately. I don't mean that you had bad intentions or anything like that. But preferably, creating the article's deletion discussion page should be done immediately after adding the template to the article. Kingjeff (talk) 02:46, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

You did not use the template for speedy deletion. Kingjeff (talk) 03:51, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Could you please be more careful?[edit]

In this edit your edit summary "Reverted to revision 847728393 by 2605:8D80:62C:7EEE:DF30:7C4A:D338:A99A: A NEWPAPER article is being used to psychoanalyze someone? Not MEDRS compliant," echoes the concerns of CommotioCerebri. In my reply I wrote "If you think WP:MEDRS is relevant here, is there a reason you didn't cite a specific passage you think is relevant?"

The best thing we can all do to avoid edit wars is to avoid leaving triggers for edit warring.

Do you think you could explain your concern more fully, on Talk:crane climbing? Geo Swan (talk) 11:46, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Not helpful[edit]

Hey Calton, please don't provide suggestions on my Talk page as to articles that may or may not meet the criteria for notability *especially* when there's a shitstorm in a teacup going on in relation to that specific topic. It isn't helpful. HighKing++ 12:54, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Seriously? Why not? If you're confident of your standards regarding the other articled, why would you be suddenly reticent to apply them here? Pretty much the opposite of "helpful", here. --Calton | Talk 13:09, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Well, for one, people would most likely say "Oh look, he's only nominating that to show he doesn't have a bias against UK companies so clearly he must have, otherwise he wouldn't have taken that suggestion". For another, it would be seen as antagonistic until editors satisfy themselves that the allegations in the newspaper are without foundation and most likely the result of a disgruntled VC. For another, I don't do commissions. If you want to nominate it yourself then go ahead. HighKing++ 13:18, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Also, in relation to this edit, I posted a full account on my Talk page. Eileen, in turn, thanks a "Jason Trost" for giving her the "heads up". Jason says his page was deleted a month ago which was probably the article on his company. The article was created by User:Chopz who wrote to the AfD closer on July 13th (just after the article was published in the Telegraph) still arguing that the company was notable. To date though they haven't brought it back for a Deletion Review. Also, I also note that the Telegraph says "One person who works at a UK technology company which had its Wikipedia article deleted accused Wikipedia users of being biased against UK technology companies. “The political bias of the editors is astounding and especially the anti-UK sentiment” they said. “They want only delete UK firms while leaving any US firm with a page.” They wished to remain anonymous for fear of further action from Wikipedia users against them." Might be a coincidence, might not, but Jason Trost was checked as having given Eileen the heads-up and he works in a UK technology firm and probably felt aggrieved. HighKing++ 14:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018[edit]

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You are edit warring. Take it to the talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:4023:D900:E187:794D:3126:2B87 (talk) 12:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Are you serious?[edit]

Excuse me. Why are you deleting my proposed edits on a talk page without giving a reason and then telling me to go educate myself? Not sure that is how Wikipedia works.Wesley Craig (talk) 03:10, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Impossible Interpretation[edit]

How could you interpret this: " "Because I said so" is insufficient." ->, therefore, makes a revision. from this: "Misleading wording and false source, as previously explained." and this: "Last post and source was misleading; Trump did not call, command or demand to end the Russia Investigation. Please read actual tweet. He said J.S. "should". Trump is J.S.'s boss, if Trump called for an end J.S. would be forced to comply because Trump is J.S.'s boss<source is Ben Shapiro>." (talk) 8:14 PM Wednesday, August 8, 2018 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) diff:

Main article for Category:Advocates of the Fourteen Words[edit]

I don't think this category is long for this earth based on your CFD nomination but I did want to touch base on your reversal of adding Fourteen Words as the main article. It's permissible for biography categories to have a non-biography main article per WP:SEPARATE. Although the main article is still in the category header, there's no direct navigation path from the main article to the category.

Just food for thought for next time. Thanks for the nomination.RevelationDirect (talk) 23:26, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Everwin Pneumatic Corp.[edit]

Hello Calton, I am one of the main editors of the article under the name "Everwin Pneumatic". I noticed that you proposed the deletion of this very article a few days ago as it seemed like an advert in your point of view. Due to this, I have revised the article and changed many of the wording and contents in the article that seemed not "neutral" enough. For instance, I removed all external links that focused solely on products of this very company. Furthermore, I completely removed the category under the name "Product line". In short, I believe that these recent revisions of mine have made the article as objective as possible and that my article no longer deserves to be under the proposal of deletion.

W22593889 (talk) 04:50, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


I suggest you remove "--The Management." from your talk page. It confuses new editors if you are a manager at Wikipedia or not. I was confused, so it could mislead others. Computer40 «»(talk) 06:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

False accusation of rape[edit]

You are kindly invited to read the discussion here

The discussion was started by another user who, quite rightly imo, objected that only mentioning the lowest rates in the lead was biased, I agreed (consensus, YOU do know what it means, right?) and acted on it.

Why don’t you explicitly state where iyo my edit does not comply with WP:NEUTRAL in the talk page instead of hiding behind a convenient revert button accusing me of not having a consensus I gave given to orhers instead thus making it at least 2 against 1 in favor of neutrally mentioning both extremes of the spectrum? Isananni (talk) 10:21, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

Miquel Reina[edit]

Hi, I just read your message about conflict of interests with the page I created but I don't understand. I created this page because I read a book from this author last year and I realized that he hasn´t a Wikipedia page. This is my first article published and I have so many troubles having it published. Any advice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josanva (talkcontribs) 02:20, 18 September 2018 (UTC)