User talk:Calton

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It's clean-up duty, mopping up after the dishonest, incompetent, and fanatical. Can't imagine why you'd have a problem with that.

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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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Elevations Credit Union[edit]

WP:GNG, yes I've heard of it, just as I've heard of sarcasm. If you did a simple Google search of this you would find there is enough independent coverage to qualify this article. Tag it for needing more citations, but saying it may not meet notability guidelines is clearly wrong. Garchy (talk) 05:08, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your cleanup at [1].

After some research efforts and work expanding the page, I'm taking a step back from editing it for a while.

Not sure what to make of these edit summaries and edits: [2] and [3].

Do those choice of words in those edit summaries seem appropriate to you? Might they display an underlying motivation?

Sagecandor (talk) 21:56, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Calton, thanks for pointing that out, now I see the topic ban by NuclearWarfare. In light of the violations of WP:SYNTH and No Original Research [4] and then edit-warring to add back again the same violations, [5], might it be time for another WP:AE ? Sagecandor (talk) 15:57, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Your 3RR report[edit]

I'm sorry you feel the way you do about this situation. However, please note that the reverts of mine you reported as violating 3RR did not, in fact, do so, as they were not made within a 24-hour period of each other, as that rule requires. I am very much aware of it and checked as to when I had reverted before doing so ... if I had thought I was even close to a third revert within 24 hours, I would not have reverted.

Please take more care to be aware of the rules you report people for violating next time you make such a report. Thank you. Daniel Case (talk) 04:02, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

No, I did not take 3RR as an entitlement to revert 3 times within 24 hours and then stop, primarily because I did not revert three times within a 24-hour period. I made two reverts on 14 December, and two more on 18 December, yet you reported all four as if they had occurred in the same 24-hour period.

I know you may have reasons for questioning the sincerity of my apology, but please try not to voice them. I do recall that at one time you were a very helpful editor (albeit a little overzealous) in reporting suspect usernames, and as one of the admins who regularly worked that page at the time I did appreciate it, even if some other people had a few problems with your work. Daniel Case (talk) 19:59, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Per WP:DDE, reports to WP:3RR can and should only be made when someone has reverted more than three times in a 24-hour period. It says that pretty clearly (There is also a warning somewhere, although I can't find it right now, that editors should not be reported for two reverts on the grounds that they are trying not break the rule that otherwise they really want to). Don't confuse restatement of the rule, and editing within its terms, with attempting to game the system.

Your claim that bluntly restating what I did amounted to an invocation of 3RR as a right to revert is irrefutable evidence of failure to assume good faith. Daniel Case (talk) 02:33, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

BTW, I said that you were a helpful editor because I'm not actively involved in UAA anymore, and so I can't speak to whatever you've been doing lately since I haven't been keeping track. Perhaps I should have phrased it differently. Daniel Case (talk) 02:36, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

A page you started (Meguro Parasitological Museum) has been reviewed![edit]

Thanks for creating Meguro Parasitological Museum, Calton!

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"Given your fundamental misunderstandings of some pretty basic concepts, I don't think you get the luxury of that smirk."

Who was that intended for? - Jack Sebastian (talk) 07:58, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Based on the usual and customary meaning of WP:INDENTing (not to mention the context), the reply would seem to have been directed at the editor who smirked.... TenOfAllTrades(talk) 13:10, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
I was prety sure I knew, but it came right after my reply, which made me think - bc the editor C and I are having difficulties with is more than a little passive-aggressive - a bit paranoidly. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 14:59, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Sorry for the lack of clarity. I should put in more marker words. --Calton | Talk 04:49, 21 December 2016 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed your post on Dicklyon's talkpage. Bit tough.

But more important, you live in Japan; I wonder whether you read/speak Japanese, and do you have any knowledge of jp.WP? I ask because the Signpost would really like to have a contact between it and a notoriously impenetrable WP version and community. We have never covered anything about that site, and it's one of our largest. Tony (talk) 10:28, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

You haven't answered my question: You evaded it.[edit]

I asked when it is proper to delete another person's comment on Talk page on WP. My question was general, those who addressed it ignored the question, and it seems tried to attack the person who they think asked the question. (talk) 08:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

User talk:Ontario Teacher BFA BEd[edit]

Hi. I hope you don't mind, but I have removed the comment you added at User talk:Ontario Teacher BFA BEd. They are not allowed to reply, or to discuss the matter at all, so your engaging in it on their talk page is not helpful and might even serve to inflame. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:38, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Seems worth mentioning[edit]

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This notice of the applicability of WP:AC/DS to discussions of article titles and the manual of style, "broadly construed", seems necessary. I don't care for its wording/tone (which sounds menacing instead of advisory), but WP:ARBCOM does not permit it to be modified. This is response to your "MOS is ... not a religious doctrine and ... people like you and Dicklyon aren't its High Priests and Defenders of the Faith" comment at ANI, which is precisely the kind of personalization of a title/style dispute and histrionic and WP:BATTLEGROUNDy casting of WP:ASPERSIONS that were why discretionary sanctions were authorized to be applied to title/style discussions (in the WP:ARBATC case linked in the notice).  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  07:50, 16 January 2017 (UTC)