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It's clean-up duty, mopping up after the dishonest, incompetent, and fanatical. Can't imagine why you'd have a problem with that.

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  1. I am not an admin. I did not delete your page or article, nor did I block you. I may have, at the very most, suggested or urged deletion of pages or articles but I have no power or ability to do so on my own. I'm just an editor.
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User talk:AndreyVorobyov[edit]

Posting further gibes at him is disruptive. The dispute had been dealt with and is over, and you need to move on too. So stop it and leave him alone. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:28, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

March 2019[edit]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for persistently making disruptive edits, refusal to drop the stick, and escalating a dispute that has already been closed. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:58, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Don't say you weren't warned. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:59, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
    Reverting the comment (the "trolling") that was left over from the dispute was fine, but the dispute had already been closed after that, he had been warned about his behaviour, and he had moved on (and possibly left Wikipedia altogether). Heading over to his talk page two days later, trying to start the fight up again, and escalating the aggression with personal insults was absolutely not acceptable. We're supposed to be building an encyclopedia here, not fighting petty schoolboy battles, remember? Anyway, you know how to request unblock if you wish, but I would oppose unblocking you until you have regained a sense of perspective and agree to stop with your escalating anger and aggression. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:10, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
  • I see that you have also been grossly uncivil with another editor recently...
No matter what the content dispute, those are are all examples of unacceptable incivility and personal attacks. I don't know why you are acting so aggressively these days, but it has to stop. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
@Boing! said Zebedee:, you may want to keep an eye on this page. One wonders how this guy is only being blocked for 31 hours for that sort of language. ~ SashiRolls t · c 07:19, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

ILoveTheVoice[edit]

Why did you remove all of the contest from his page? ILoveTheVoice II (talk) 16:42, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Wikipedia user pages are not free web space for you to host your own fictitious material, and I have now deleted your new user page per WP:U5. Please see WP:User pages to learn what user pages are for. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:58, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Google LLC[edit]

Hello, I wanted to let you know that it is common practice to state the legal company name in the article, despite it being a common name or not. Common name is used for titles, not the start of a heading. You can refer to other company articles such as Microsoft, Facebook and Amazon (company). Cheers. –Wefk423 (talk) 12:59, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Blocked[edit]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for a repeat of the aggressive interpersonal behaviour that led to your previous block. Further similar behaviour will lead to further sanctions, and if I'm the one who deals with it your next similar offence will result in at least a one-month block. To echo what I said last time, no matter what the content dispute, the edit summary "Again: no one left you in charge of ANYTHING, so no one is taking any orders from you. Suck it up, buttercup" is absolutely unacceptable. You must (in fact will, one way or another) stop the aggression and insults.

You know how to appeal this block if you wish to do so. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:33, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

  • Looking back on some more of your recent edit summaries, I see escalating aggression, including sarcasm, "WTF", general snark, before reaching the level of outright personal insult. You really need to learn when to stop and step back. If you're in a bad mood, feeling frustrated, or whatever, the best thing to do is stop editing Wikipedia for a while. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:44, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@Boing! said Zebedee: And you need to grow up, Sheriff Respect-Mah-Authoritah. A bad block, of course, but that's a typical overreaction from you. Maybe you should try paying occasional attention to things that are actually happening instead of running interference for bad editors. --Calton | Talk 09:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

You know how to request an unblock if you disagree with my reason for the block. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:11, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Stop reverting edits[edit]

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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. - I wont hestitate to request for an administrator's attention if you decide to continue, you seem to have a colourful history in reverting edits and being disruptive. I suggest you stop being aggressive. The talk page exists for a reason. Ineedtostopforgetting (talk) 09:44, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Postmodernism copyvio[edit]

Can you explain it to me how is that copyvio when there is proper attribution?Sourcerery (talk) 14:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

(passer-by) @Sourcerery It's because the copyright rules are tightened in wake of Articles 11 and 13 of the European new copyright legislation. Also since there is an ongoing "constitutional crisis" caused by a WMF ban you have to be extra careful these days. 202.126.216.142 (talk) 19:10, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Consensus[edit]

When discretionary sanctions are in place (WP:ARBAPDS), and there's no consensus for a change, the status quo is to be retained until a consensus is met. You should self-revert. Loganmac (talk) 12:39, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Your undelete at the Ty Cobb page[edit]

Dear User:Calton. Thank you for sparing me one more maddening escalation toward an edit war with not only one but two different editors, applying common sense both to the congruence of the image and caption as currently mated and the context the latter provides.

That photo in particular shouts for context. Initially I thought it was a pre-game or Spring Training picture, given how empty the stands were behind the players. It's arresting - even moreso in the un-cropped version of the photo here:[1]. The fact is, it screams for a whole lot more than can reasonably be provided. The Senators only averaged 7,500 fans a game in 1924, yet they were 4th in AL attendance (with just 584,000 total). And were by no means the "Florida Marlins" of their day. In fact, they were en route to their first and only World Series championship.

I don't know the specific team standings on Saturday, August 16, but it would not have been a "throwaway" game, as the pennant race ended up tight (with the NY Yankees just two back) and the Sentaors' opponent Detroit Tigers finished 3rd, just 6 games behind (back when winning the pennant meant everything, before endless rounds of dilutionary play-offs and play-ins).

It's hard to imagine such empty outfield seats, but the image captured them for perpetuity. I've dug quite a bit to find game day attendance, but can't turn it up. Just how empty was the rest of the ballpark, considering all games back then were day games, and weekend games, particularly Sundays, and once highly popular double-headers, drew much larger crowds than weekdays? Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 11:17, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Thanks for your nomination at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sydney Ember. I had originally created this article and in this case made an error in considering the weight of the sources. It seems right to delete it, and I would not support its reestablishment until and unless this person were the subject of 2+ additional reliable sources. Thanks for the the fun exchange in this and good call. Blue Rasberry (talk) 09:37, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Julian Assange and Diplomatic Asylum[edit]

Why did you remove

Matthew Happold, Julian Assange and Diplomatic Asylum, EJIL:Talk (Blog of the European Journal of International Law), 24 June 2012

from the page on Julian Assange?----Bancki (talk) 13:02, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Lsparrish[edit]

Hello, Calton,

I have moved your comments from the "uninvolved admin section" to the general section involving this Arbitration enforcement case. I haven't altered their content but you might want to check to make sure they are worded as you choose them to be. You are a very experienced editor and I hope you won't comment in the admin section in the future. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 02:09, 13 September 2019 (UTC)