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My list:[edit]

Okay, here it is. I'll group stuff in topical sections. Maybe we can create a subpage on our user pages to keep our collaborative efforts and our projects. I'm thinking big here, so I'll get started. Here they are:

  • Animals:
    • Duck. Crab. (Check out the misc sections in Crab and Duck; they both have the sentence "The Moche people of ancient Peru worshipped nature, especially the sea. They placed emphasis on animals and often depicted crabs/ducks in their art". The only word changed is crab/duck, so I'm doubting the verifibility of this claim.)
    • Snow Leopard. Worked on this before - needs major work.
    • Griffin. Looks fine, but underneath has serious issues. Like Tom Cruise. ;)
    • Toad. Comprised mainly of a list of species and not much else. It also has the same "The Moche people of ancient Peru worshipped animals and often depicted toads in their art..." sentence as Duck and Crab.
    • Gull.
  • Plants:
    • Oak. Can use a good expansion.
  • People:
    • Samuel Duncan Parnell. Main person at head of NZ's Labour hours etc.
    • Dong Zhiming. A paleontologist who could use some expansion.
    • Baldwin IV of Jerusalem. A bit of a change; most of the foundation is there, so it wouldn't take much to get the article to at least GA.
    • Genghis Khan. Tonnes of stuff on this guy and most of the work's already done.
  • My favourite, core topics:
    • Rock (geology). For something that we all live on, it's a pretty pathetic article.
    • Island gigantism.
    • Name. Some parts are rubbish and others have no sources.
    • Habitat. Woeful condition for such a core topic.
    • Wind. No sources whatsoever and many small paras.
    • Practically anything from Category:Animal anatomy.
    • Nail (anatomy). We all have them, but the article is made of small paras.
    • Night. No sources and almost all sections are prodded as needing attention. Possibly Day needs attention as well...
  • Colours - I know, but they are in dire need of cleanup...:
    • Green, Red, Blue (A bit better than the rest), White, Yellow (Which has OR and sentences like: "The planet Saturn is yellowish, like a class G star"), Orange (colour), Violet, Indigo as well as any article from List of colors. Seeing as how a new colour is created every second (so I've heard) then we might have a lot of work to do. But we can get a great Featured Topic if we get a few up to scratch.
  • Other stuff:
  • My second fave article; Really really short articles. I'm not sure if they'll be easy to find info on, but I'm sure we'll be able to find something to expand them:
    • Amolops nepalicus. Adding a line or two could double the article's size.
    • Adenomus. Keep on coming up with frog articles on random article...
    • Sooty Orange Tip and many others etc etc etc. You get the idea.

Well, that's just the tip of the iceberg. We can either: 1) Begin working on these articles we've both suggested. 2) Press the random article button and edit whatever comes up if it's notable (A bit silly really...) or 3) Give up the whole idea. I'm leaning toward 1), but we'd need to set up a subpage on our user pages and compile a firm list of what articles we want to expand. Then we can decide if we want anyone else in on the act. Maybe Circeus would be interested? Or someone else you know. Or maybe we could occasionally enlist people to help - an expert maybe. Anyway, I'm really excited - I hate working on articles alone and if we did the old "my turn, your turn" in choosing articles, we could keep on going indefinitely. We get on pretty well as well, which can't hurt... So, whatdoyasay? Partners? Spawn Man 05:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Great Scot man! Are you ever ever offline? I'm beginning to think you edit wikipedia whilst listening to patients "Doc, are you even listening to me??" ;) In regard to "some of those thingies look good too..." - what things? Anyway, get back to me later, as I really think we could be a great team. You've come a really long way from when I first saw your edits on t rex (Or was it Dinosaur...?) and now you've helped get more articles featured than me. Cheers, Spawn Man 05:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Nah, I don't like putting my name to DYKs that I didn't create - just a habit thing. The only one I've done it with was Janjucetus. Anyway, how about this - We both close our FAC's, Andre for me, and your future lion FAC for you. Then we meet back here and begin. We can bring Circeus in on the act during FAC time or as a general copyeditor. Anyway, I'm gonna chill out for a while. See ya later! :) Spawn Man 05:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and I put some extra refs in Kertesz - hopefully that helps. Cheers, Spawn Man 05:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC) P.S. Just noticed I've got 30 DYKs!
Oh, is that all? I didn't include it because I didn't think it was important lol. I'll stick it in after dinner. You're very optimistic. I'm more a Mr. Negativity. :) Spawn Man 06:03, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay; I added notations to most of the books in the bibliography section - I'm asuming you wanted them there as that's where most of his books are. Check it out anyway, and if there's something missing, tell me. If not, I've fufilled your request. Cheers, :) Spawn Man 06:59, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Sea otter[edit]

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Hi Cas, now for the furriest critter of all! I've got Sea otter pretty much filled out now, and am trying to step back and look at structural issues. I don't think it's quite ready for a full-on peer review yet because discussing structure with 20 people could be unmanageable. However, I know you're really good at structural stuff so I'd love it if you could swing by. Eliezg put up some interesting ideas on the Talk page and I've also asked Sabine's Sunbird for her input. Best wishes, Kla’quot (talk | contribs) 05:08, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

congrats on the mention in the wikipedia signpost[edit]

you prolific FA contributor you! Sabine's Sunbird talk 22:58, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

I just found it now. I asked him to drop a note about the Flaming Joel-wiki too...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Animal taxobox color[edit]

Hi Casliber, what do you think about a nicer color for the animal taxobox? (See Wikipedia talk:Taxobox usage#Another color for animal-taxobox?)--Altaileopard (talk) 09:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


I saw this on MAM talk. A bear is an obvious choice, maybe?

I have had a related but somewhat contrary thought. Of 150-odd mammal families, only 19 (I tried to count) have an FA. It would be neat to pick "medium" targets (fairly well hit, if not the most obvious targets) to represent various mammal groups. Say, Capybara, because its the largest rodent. A bat species. Another large herbivore. And so on.

Of course, it does also make sense to list the top ten or twenty Google-searched species, and go for those. But maybe we'll be too heavy on carnivores? (This idea for targets wouldn't have to be only mammals—a focus on them is systemic bias, in its own way.) Anyway, it's just a thought.

I tried to make you famous on the Signpost :). Good work. Marskell (talk) 22:59, 31 January 2008 (UTC)


Is this about the sea lion article I nominated? Bobisbob (talk) 01:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


Congratulations on the promotion of Sirius, and thanks for your hard work. Hopefully we can collaborate on some more astronomical articles soon. Chrislintott (talk) 08:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

I really wanted to do Canopus but there was precious little info I could find...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
It's mentioned in more than 300 technical publications as you can see here. If you have the time to do a quick trawl to see which might be useful, I'll happily help translate them. Chrislintott (talk) 11:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Aha. great. I'll take you up on that soon, just considering what I feel like doing next...Gyromitra esculenta...Boletus edulis....choices choices..cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

A brief comparison of Sirius and Vega can be found here [1]. Ruslik (talk) 18:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Ruslik I can only see the abstract which doesn't say much - can you summarise what it says in a sentence or two and pop it in or leave here and I can insert with references (or is the full text version around somewhere..) cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Here's a free version from the arxiv server (which is an excellent resource for recent astronomy papers. Chrislintott (talk) 16:12, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks from Happy-melon[edit]

I just wanted to say thanks for your support for my RfA, which closed (74/2/0) this morning. Your comment and support was very much appreciated. Happymelon 15:26, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

CBT in Bipolar[edit]

Saw your note in Bipolar Disorder about your plan for a CBT section. Good work. I have Bipolar-mixed, and upon discharge from Payne Whitney, besides the usual meds, was "strongly advised" to take up DBT, which I know find invaluable.

I look forward to reading your entry. Best,---Shlishke (talk) 15:41, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Sirius 2[edit]

Congradulations on the promotion of Sirius! Cheers, Basketballone10 00:35, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Notification of injunction relating to episodes and characters[edit]

The Arbitration Committee, in Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Episodes and characters 2, have voted to implement a temporary injunction. It can be viewed on the case page by following this link. The injunction is as follows:

For the duration of Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Episodes and characters 2, no editor shall redirect or delete any currently existing article regarding a television series episode or character; nor un-redirect or un-delete any currently redirected or deleted article on such a topic, nor apply or remove a tag related to notability to such an article. Administrators are authorized to revert such changes on sight, and to block any editors that persist in making them after being warned of this injunction.

As noted in the text of the injunction, this restriction is in effect until the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Episodes and characters 2 case is officially closed by a clerk, following a successful motion to close by the arbitrators. Please note that, for the purposes of enforcement (c.f. the final line of the text of the injunction), all parties in this case at the time of this message (link) have been notified of this injunction.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel (talk) 02:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Oasis (band)[edit]

Hi friend, I've addressed some of your concerns that you highlighted on the said article's talk page. I'm still working on it, but if you could check them so far that'd be great. Thank you! ScarianCall me Pat 13:40, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


Just wanted to say thanks for the barnstar! RL has kept me busy since I returned from a wikibreak to see that Wormshill had made FA. It will be a while until I next submit something for such intense scrutiny but was fun to be able to add to WP's very best work :) Cheers once again Dick G (talk) 00:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Recent Amanita research[edit]

Thought you'd want to look it up:

  • Hallen, Heather (2007). "Gene family encoding the major toxins of lethal Amanita mushrooms". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 104 (48): 19097–19101. doi:10.1073/pnas.0707340104. PMID 18025465.  Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

Circeus (talk) 01:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Mammal collab[edit]

I left for the weekend and was excited to come back and see all the activity at Wikipedia:WikiProject Mammals/Collaboration! You seem to have assembled an excellent group of editors. When do we get started? --JayHenry (talk) 08:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC) p.s. Not to be churlish, but I notice the Slobodan thing is still in Vampire. I guess Spawn Man was feeling a little burned out by the FAC (I think he underestimates the amount of people who will read the sub-articles) and I didn't want to hassle, but do want to follow up on this at some point, as it's a WP:V concern -- I still think it's a hoax. --JayHenry (talk) 08:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

...weeeelll we have the Sunday Herald of Scotland [2]...............and...
I think you might be right. I was struck by the fact that in a google search of 'Milosevic' + 'vampire' there was absolutely no coverage in any newspaper of note apart from that one above. I'd have thought if it were true, the calibre of the story would have resulted in a much higher level of coverage. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
PS: Regarding Mammals, great to see all the interest. I reckon Polar Bear wouldn't be far off anyway. I can see a bit of a schism in ideas (Polar Bear vs. Brown Rat) and maybe would be good to get one over the line. If you start working on one and everyone joins in may get to FAC in 2 weeks and we'll have to go with the next one. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, At first I thought Mammal Collab were nominations for feature articles but now I know what it's really for. Come to think of it I think the articles I posted need some expansion but I expanded them as much as I can. You interested? Bobisbob (talk) 02:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

I've been adding more to the California sea lion article. You think you can add a section in "Human intereactions" on how they are used in entertainment? Also is there more to add? Bobisbob (talk) 23:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

You have any suggests to add to California sea lion. Bobisbob (talk) 00:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Nice but I don't think I can do all that on my own. Bobisbob (talk) 15:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Did you see the French Southern elephant seal article? Can we get that info in English and transfer it over here too? Bobisbob (talk) 00:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Closing AfDs[edit]

When closing AfDs, please be sure to put the {{at}} template above the ==Header==. Otherwise, the bot that takes care of the AfD pages will not know the discussion is closed. I have fixed seven of these for you from today (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7). Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. AfD is not something I often do. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Entoloma sinuatum copyedited[edit]

I left a few html comments in the source that you'll want to review. Cheers. Circeus (talk) 16:19, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - just feeling my way with fungi again...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 6 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Boletus pulcherrimus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 19:49, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

User:Earthbendingmaster/Poll Basketball110 Clinton, Obama, McCain, Huckabee, Romney, or Paul? 00:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the anecdote on vampire. As for your condition, I'm not sure if you've followed the conversation about it above your comment, so I'll just summarize: page numbers and/or chapters aren't possible for the bunches of cites from the five or so big book sources, cause I don't have most of the books anymore. VanTucky 04:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Boletus luridus[edit]

Updated DYK query On 8 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Boletus luridus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 12:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Miscellaneous fungus articles[edit]

Hello Casliber, thanks for the suggestions! As I'm pretty busy with other projects, I would probably not devote time to work on these articles for now, but maybe later... For Amanita verna, I found this link: [3]. Best regards, Korg (talk) 16:52, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

The Award[edit]

A beautiful award that is much appreciated. I hope it never has to be given to anyone again. Giano (talk) 23:37, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


I'm tempted to go for GA, but there are two problems. It has no range map, bound to be picked up, and beyond my capabilities. Secondly, I'll be on holiday for a fortnight, can't do any fixes. I appreciate that someone else might do the latter, but I'm wary of submitting without a map. Jimfbleak (talk) 06:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Agree. I posted on Jude's talk page (about another article needing a map). Not sure who else can do them. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:26, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Re comment on an RfA[edit]

Please excuse me if you don't like getting too many talk page messages, but I'd like to let you know about a comment I made in response to your vote on an RfA, and also the candidate's response to opposes (part of this diff) on which my comment is largely based. --Coppertwig (talk) 15:24, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I have seen the above. As I said elsewhere, it is easy to come up with thoughtful-sounding responses on RfA, and I strongly believe in all editors contributing content. If this failed and he cooperated on a GA or two in the next 2 weeks I'd support him after that. In general, enhancing the creation of a split where there are 'editors' and 'admins' I feel is a really bad idea.
I have refrained from commenting further as I am not interested in continuing some deletion vs inclusion argument or fanning the flames of what has gone on before. The numbers are looking better for Seresin all the time and should it pass I hope I am proven wrong. I am also wary in situations where there is a polarisation of opinion, when someone calls a person 'best ever' as in the nom. I have seen plenty of these instances in real-life and on wiki. I have mentioned my occupation elsewhere on WP and am familiar with alot of this stuff so I like to think I know what I am talking about. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Amanita ocreata map[edit]

I made a range map for Amanita ocreata and added it to the article. I assumed that the range would roughly follow the western edges of mountain ranges in Oregon and Washington, as well. If you want any changes made to the map, either in the range itself, or color changes and cropping (the blue might be a too pale), just leave a message on my talk page. Cheers, heyjude. 16:08, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Bipolar Disorder[edit]

Hi. I'm working in the spanish wikipedia article for Bipolar Disorder. As for the history of the english article and the talk page I can see that you are one of the most engaged editors of this article. Currently I'm triying to promote the spanish version first to GA and then to FA. I have been reading the german one. My strategy is to translate the english one, improve the structure under our wikiproyect:diseases and then filling the gaps with another wikipedias stuff. Some pictures here and there and maybe it will be ready for GA. The FA assault will be harder and surely will need for a complete remake with newest bibliography. I wonder myself if you may have any advice on the subject. Also I'm very glad to discover that you are very interested in mycology. Well, It's not my field in biology, but I consider myself an unrepentant mycophague and I belong to a very large mycological society. So, there is a kinda brotherhood around, isn't it? Cheers, --Gustavocarra (talk) 22:25, 9 February 2008 (UTC) Please, if answer go to my talk page at the spanish wikipedia.

Gosh, I can't post there as non hablo espaniol -wouldn't it look odd with english on spanish wiki? As far as layout, I feel schizophrenia is really good and is a current Featured Article. Maybe the best thing is to follow the layout of that article but substitute the text and info from bipolar. I was going to do this for bipolar on cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
PS: Ever taken any nice photos of Boletus satanas, as I was developing that one...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello again[edit]

Yes he is, and is asking for the correct way to create articles. Basketball110 the pages I've messed up completely 02:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks[edit]

Pop culture[edit]

I appreciate your comments, both at WP:ANI and on my talk page. I was just looking for clarification. If there's not a firm consensus for it, I won't bother with it unless there's a secondary source. I really do like the "cultural references" sections, though, as long as they're well-written, but it's not worth edit warring over if it's not a confirmed consensus. Thanks for your help! Snowfire51 (talk) 00:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK again[edit]

Updated DYK query On 11 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tricholoma pardinum, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel Case (talk) 18:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


Dyk50.png The 50 DYK Medal   
Excellent job! Congratulations on 50 DYKs! Well done

-- Victuallers (talk) 22:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


Just replied to your comment of today, and anything else that needs to be done? Ealdgyth | Talk 02:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Think I got it worded right. Who knew a big breed org wouldnt put membership numbers out and that the stupid American Horse Council requires you to BUY their report on the economic impact of horses on the US!Ealdgyth | Talk 02:51, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Danke! Ealdgyth | Talk 03:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Bitte schon/de nada/no problemo....cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Harry D. Thiers[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Harry D. Thiers requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.  superβεεcat  05:05, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Just a note: please don't remove speedy deletion notices from pages you created; that's why {{Hangon}} exists. As it happens, I would have declined the speedy even if you hadn't deleted the tag, but it was still an inappropriate removal on your part. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 05:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Alright then I'll remember that for next time. I still think that 30 seconds for a speedy tag is a great way to antagonise new users. It obviously isn't patent nonsense, so maybe if this is the case, notability tags are better in cases of doubt.cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Reactive attachment disorder[edit]

Thanks for all your advice at FAC. Its very difficult to get anybody to take an interest in this subject! I do think its important though. Previously the attachment articles were all 'owned' and run by an attachment therapist and his 6 socks so you can imagine what they were like. It took and ArbCom to get rid of them so I would like proper information about the whole subject to be as widely available as possible. Fainites barley 11:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Bio Barnstar[edit]

I was looking for a barnstar that you hadn't been given yet, and this is what I came up with.

Bio barnstar2.png The Bio-star
You do a phenomenal amount of good work on Wikipedia.

Samsara (talk  contribs) 13:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to modify the width etc. as suits your purposes. Samsara (talk  contribs) 13:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that was what I noticed, although I actually meant to give you this award a few weeks ago, but never finished my editing session, which was left open on another computer. ^^ So when I saw that, I remembered. The general idea was just to find creature pictures on commons that don't have en-wp articles yet, and there are a lot of them! I won't expect you to write a full article for each. ;) Samsara (talk  contribs) 16:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Oasis (band)[edit]

[4] - Replied there, friend. ScarianCall me Pat 21:44, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2008_February_5#Template:NCite[edit]

When closing TfD's, you need to use a different template from the AfD template. Unlike AfD's, which {{at}} is needed above the headline, for TfD's, you need to add the {{tfdt}} template below the headline, and add {{tfdb}} at the end of the section. This TfD has already been fixed for you by User:IronGargoyle. This is not really a something big, but next time please try use the right template to avoid formatting problems. If you are in doubt, please see WP:DPR, it should have the instructions you need to close deletion debates properly. Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 02:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:25, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

re:The Zen garden of sheep[edit]

Thanks Calisber, it really means a lot to get that from you, considering your experience with FAC. All your assistance on the article and the nom is much appreciated! VanTucky 02:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Reactive attachment disorder[edit]

Sorry to interrupt the mushrooms - but I'm really puzzled now. On the one hand I understand you to be saying that anything that isn't strictly RAD should be removed, yet in several places you seem to be wanting the opposite, ie re attachment in general. Am I missing something here? Fainites barley 13:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

We seem to be on two pages now - please see Aethlings comments on the FAC comment page. I have to say I agree with him on his list of distinctions. I really think it would be an error to whittle those away. Fainites barley 19:58, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Great saves (from Marskell)[edit]


One of my favorite pictures
Thank you for participating in my RfA! It was closed as successful with 74 supporting, 3 opposing, and 1 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have placed in me. —Remember the dot (talk) 18:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


I'm starting work on the Coelacanth article, but there's one thing that's bugging me about the article. I don't like how the taxonomy section is so listy. Should I keep it that way, should I make a table of some sort, or should I convert it to prose? I think that it is an important part of the article, but I'm stuck as to how to order the information. bibliomaniac15 23:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On February 14, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ramaria formosa, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Great work again Cas. Australia's floundering at FAC without you! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Updated DYK query On 15 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lactarius helvus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel Case (talk) 10:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Elephant seal[edit]

Did you see the French Southern elephant seal article? Can we get that info in English and transfer it over here too? Bobisbob (talk) 04:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Entoloma sinuatum[edit]

The article Entoloma sinuatum you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold.Symbol wait.svg It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Entoloma sinuatum for things needed to be addressed. Million_Moments (talk) 16:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


Maybe I'm misreading it but what puzzled me is the idea, mainly from what Matisse said, that there is no relationship between attachment theory and RAD. Then you said you'd never thought of linking the two. I'd rather assumed that attachment theory was the basis of the formulation of RAD - whether they got it right or not. I appreciate one is an all encompassing theory and the other is a specific diagnosis, but the books and papers tend to discuss the elements of RAD in the context of basic attachment behaviours, or lack of those behaviours, as set out in attachment theory. Hopefully that paper from Zeanah setting out the history will assist. As I said, I have a vague recollection that he was involved in the drafting of the DSM criteria. JeanMercer will probably know this. Fainites barley 22:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

OK. Got you now. My understanding is that the more recent versions of DSM definitely grew out of what were percieved as the fundamentals of attachment theory - even though I suspect the next version may be very different. I should have thought the distinction as you set out is not to difficult to make in the article. I had concentrated on avoiding confusion between RAD and the styles so that people don't think a mention of insecure attachment means your child has an attachment disorder or mental illness. Fainites barley 11:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

If you look, SandyGeorgia has sort of started it again anyway so I'd rather see it through if poss. I've made some changes but I was waiting really for your suggestions.Fainites barley 13:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Gomphus floccosus[edit]

Updated DYK query On 16 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gomphus floccosus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 05:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Fungi so far[edit]

I was in the field (around the Dorrigo region) for most of January, so did get to see some cool fungi. Here are three I have already uploaded to Flickr. The first first from near Coffs, second from Dorrigo region and third from near Gloucester, NSW. Hopefully Autumn will be like last year, as it was quite productive.

--liquidGhoul (talk) 05:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Holy crap! Well done on the bioluminescent ones. Now to figure out what they are. Looks better than my Omphalotus nidiformis ones which i uploaded onto the top right if the Bioluminescence page...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Doczilla's RfA[edit]

Checkuser then?[edit]

Surely there is enough for a checkuser for this then? - "#Real identity of Jack Merridew: Could it be Davenbelle/Moby Dick" - whya don't you put it up there? cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Arbitrators are capable of handling checkusers. As this is arbitration related on a complicated case, I don't want to spread the disruption in any way. -- Cat chi? 02:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, was wondering about that. Thought it could get lost on that huge page though...cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
It wont get lost. I wont make the same mistake as I have done with Moby Dick. ;) -- Cat chi? 02:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Manual of Style[edit]

I've started a thread on a proposed new WikiProject to coordinate Manual of Style pages. I think this might provide a mechanism to address the problem without raising concerns about centralization of authority on the main MoS page. Your comments on whether and how such a WikiProject might work would be very valuable. See WT:MoS#WikiProject Manual of Style. Geometry guy 19:21, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

RFA Card[edit]


Hi, Calisber, thanks for voting in my RfA, which passed with 47 supports (I hoped for a perfect square, but two away is close enough!), 3 opposes (the first odd prime), and 0 neutrals. I'm glad the community has decided to trust me with the mop and bucket (the flamethrower isn't supported). Of course, special thanks goes to my nominators Auawise and that one guy who buried stuff (not that the thanks I give to the you isn't special!). If you ever need a hand with something, or just want to say hello, tough feel free to drop a line! Best wishes, Nousernamesleftcopper, not wood 23:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

This doesn't even vaguely resemble a mop, but I couldn't find a picture of one.


Hi, Because of the recent discussion about the difference of Crows/Ravens (where you made very good points) I've created User:Plcoffey/SandboxCorvus (genus) which is currently a copied version of Crow; I'm hoping we can transition it into something resembling a representation of the entire genus (as per the discussion on Talk:Corvus (genus). My hope is that it would be a more inclusive article that would be a portal to the various species pages, and that it would allow us to eliminate some of the redundancy in the current pages. Any help or suggestions would be very welcome! Plcoffey (talk) 01:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I can has thankspam?[edit]

Kunzea ambigua[edit]

Updated DYK query On 19 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Kunzea ambigua, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 17:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I know you usually nominate your articles yourself, sorry about that, I did not notice it (mostly because you have been working mostly on mushrooms these days) until after I had made the nom. Circeus (talk) 19:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

OhanaUnited's RFA[edit]


Thanks for the award!... I noticed Amanita ocreata was at FAC and I tend to agree with you that all the cyclopeptide mushroom articles could have info re toxicity in them. On the other hand at one stage I had considered putting all the toxicology info for amatoxins in a specify amatoxin/amatoxin poisoning article and then each genus/species (i.e. Amanita, Galerina, Lepiota, Macrolepiota) could just link to the 'poisoning' article but I wasn't entirely comfortable stripping large amounts of information from a featured article and realise that each could just have it in them anyway. I don't edit a lot and sort of left it to editors such as yourself with a lot more experience than me. I just mainly chip in with toxicology info rather than any substantial additions to articles (although kind of frustrated that both Bresinsky and Benjamin are now getting a bit old and could do with new editions), :) cheers. Mr Bungle | talk 07:45, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Had a quick look and Bresinsky has next to nothing on the Blewits really, Clitocybe nuda is listed as a possible gastrointestinal irritant and thats it (your braver then me having a go at them, I just stick to eating Agaricus bisporus). CheersMr Bungle | talk 04:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Am I ever gonna go away?!?[edit]

Einstein factor[edit]

Unfortunately, ABC doesnt have proper reception where I am, same for a lot of people I guess. I suppose you'll have to send us an mpeg of it when it happens. Blnguyen (photo straw poll) 07:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Kobold peer review[edit]

Hi, Casliber! I recently put the article kobold up for peer review (here). On the volunteer peer reviewer list, I noticed that you are willing to review folklore- and mythology-related articles. Well, here's one 1 I know there are probably persnickety MOS things that need fixing (and comments addressing such would be useful), but I'm more concerned about the information itself. What would you suggest to improve it? Any comments you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, — Dulcem (talk) 23:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Checking dates...[edit]

Hi Cas: I'm working on the very first WP:BIRD newsletter (for March), and I'm wondering when the next collaboration will be chosen. I've highlighted this month's Moa, but also want to steer folks towards voting for next month's article. Any idea? The collaboration page says Feb. 21... MeegsC | Talk 00:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! MeegsC | Talk 11:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button Button sig.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 11:31, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Song Thrush[edit]

Many thanks for your GA help in my absence! Jimfbleak (talk) 18:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Any views on whether this or Chough could get FA? Jimfbleak (talk) 19:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)