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Again, welcome!  WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

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Edits on RNA thermometer[edit]

In this edit summary you state "The Shamovsky 2006 reference does not claim that RNA-1 is an RNA thermometer". In fact, the referenced article states:

Here we describe a previously uncharacterised non-coding RNA that is essential for heat-shock response activation and that could potentially serve as a thermosensor. Indeed, the concept of an RNA thermosensor, albeit with a different mode of action, has already been described in bacteria

While you could have added "potentially" I disagree with removing the whole paragraph so will be reinserting it. Please discuss, ideally on the article talk page, before removing large sections Thanks Jebus989 08:24, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Regarding the Hsp70 element, the referenced article states:

We suggest that one or both of these regions of secondary structure comprises a heat-sensitive inhibitory element that impedes access to the initiation codon at normal growth temperature. Furthermore, the ability of ribosomal subunits to recognize this region could be heat enhanced, presumably through thermal destabilization of the stem. This model draws by analogy on studies that have elucidated a mechanism of bacterial heat shock preferential translation. In that instance, a series of studies have shown that thermal melting of a stem-containing region including the Shine-Dalgarno region, and perhaps also a downstream box segment, allows rRNA base-pairing and ribosome recruitment only at elevated (heat shock) temperatures

But I accept that, although spelling it out, they do not use the phrase 'RNA thermometer/thermosensor', so I will not reinsert it at this time Jebus989 08:37, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


Vaccine concerns are based on "However, some countries, such as the USA, do not routinely vaccinate with BCG, based on the uncertain efficacy against pulmonary TB in adolescents and adults, as well as the need to maintain the utility of tuberculin testing as a diagnostic test in the population."--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:53, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

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Cat, just checking in[edit]

No issue with the OR at Bb, User:CatPath let's just keep checking and if we see relevant source on the sensu, I'll be glad to extract and make the initial edit, if you post a citation there. (I did some drug discovery work on that organism years ago, as a medic hem / chem biol, not a microbiol). Alternatively on the sensu, I'd be glad to try to help you find a way to get a short scholarly note published. Never been easier with PLOS and the proliferation of niche J's. (I am envision a comment somewhere, or a reply, that incorporates your obs). RSVP, or we can go offline. Cheers. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 04:29, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Environmental microbiology[edit]

Editors with conflict of interests aren't a speedy deletion criterion, and not really ever a deletion criterion. Editors can, and do, edit articles where they have a conflict of interest. They don't have any restrictions above or beyond regular editors - just that we acknowledge it's a trickier situation, and you need to be carefuler. You can read the whole mess, but basically all it says is don't push a POV against the interests of the encyclopaedia. I don't see any evidence of that in that case. Articles that are blatant spam get deleted because they're of no encyclopaedic value. Articles that are of encyclopaedic value, but - what? rely to heavily on sources from a single publisher? - may need some balancing/editing, but there's no need to delete them.

That said, if there're substantial copyright violations in the article, tag it as G-12, and then it should be speedily deleted. Copyright infringment needs to be nuked from orbit, and the article re-created from scratch. WilyD 09:55, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

  • Well, if there are substantial amounts of copied text (or even small amounts!), that is a serious problem. Don't haraung someone over having a COI, unless their editing is otherwise problematic, but don't put up with copyright violations. WilyD 11:14, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Please note my comment on the Leptospira talk page[edit]

See comment here

Esther Lederberg[edit]

Hi CatPath -- Wondering if we could talk on Talk:Esther Lederberg about the extensive changes you've been making? Thanks. --Lquilter (talk) 20:33, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Environmental microbiology[edit]

Hello CatPath. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Environmental microbiology, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Too complex for speedy deletion. Try WP:Copyright problems instead. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:07, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Sources for Water filtration article[edit]


removing apparently valid sources for an article which has been copied from the non-deleted source does seem quite a surprising action. I presume there must be some reason that isn't visible to the rest of us, such as that the deleted sources have been spammed into there? Otherwise, one might imagine that a good route for the article would be to use the non-CV sources to develop the article.

What's the situation? Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:41, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

removing Phylogenetic trees[edit]

Hi CatPath, u removed the tree that I created and said "‎Phylogeny: Deleted tree. Does not appear correctly on some screens. Should be presented as a figure, not as in-line text". I know you are trying to make the page clearer and more reader friendly, but instead of removing someones work altogether why don't you fix the errors to make it more legible and aesthetic. Don't mean to be rude but you seem to be doing this alot. The information present was gotten from credible sources and represent a useful addition to the knowledge base of Bacteriology, so agin why don't you solve problems rather than just delete problems. Videsh Ramsahai (talk) 17:54, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Lac operon[edit]

I see that you have been making many edits to different pages on how the lac operon works and its inhibition by glucose. I don't think it is wise to make wholesale changes without making clearer in the text why what is generally accepted to true in textbook may not be accurate. I don't know if this has been addressed in studies, but lac operon mutants that are insensitive to catabolite repression is explained in term of not requiring cAMP binding, and if the cAMP model is wrong, I'm still not sure how it could be affected by the glucose shutting down lactose permease. If one model is wrong, it doesn't mean the other is necessarily correct, therefore a clearer explanation of the different models is necessary. Hzh (talk) 14:31, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

About Applied Behavioral Analysis[edit]

Hi there,

I'm Luna, the person whose edit you rolled back on the ABA page. I was wondering if you could help me.

I realize that my edit didn't match Wikipedia's guidelines, so I'm okay with it going away. However, the issues I mentioned still remain: the autistic/parent community takes serious issue with many forms of ABA therapy for a number of ethical reasons. A lot of children and adults have been abused, scarred, and diagnosed with Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder as a result of their experiences in ABA.

I feel that parents and others need to be aware of the controversy and risks when making this decision. I've heard of parents who say they were not informed about some of the things that happened in the therapy (e.g. pinning down a sobbing child, physical injury, taking away a child's AAC device as punishment). Ideally, parents would know that these things happen, so they can balance cost/benefit and know what to look out for if they decide to proceed with ABA.

Since I'm new and unused to the quality guidelines, I doubt that attempting to edit the article alone will result in an edit that stays. I'd like it to have a clear, appropriately-cited part somewhere so the article will describe both sides of the argument. Where and how can I get help to make this happen?

Thanks a lot, Luna MissLuna12 (talk) 15:32, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Edit to Borrelia burgdorferi[edit]

Greetings! I noticed that you reverted some edits that I made to Borrelia burgdorferi. References 4 and 5 document the consensus of researchers with reliable, high quality medical references that this pathogen is oncogenic and an infectious cause of cancer. Providing two important wikilinks to more information on this bacteria is appropriate. Best Regards,   Bfpage |leave a message  20:14, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

User:Bfpage, the only review source on the Bb oncogenesis discussion closes its only relevant section on the Bb-lymphoma association by saying, "Unlike gastric MALT lymphoma, only a few cases of PCBCL [primary cutaneous B-cell lymphoma] have responded to antibiotics (42, 57, 91, 141, 166, 206). As in the case of C. psittaci and ocular adnexal MALT lymphoma, if B. burgdorferi is truly associated with PCBCL, then there is wide geographic variability and other factors are probably involved" (see [1], p. 846, accessed 19 June 2015.).
Bottom line, correlation is not causality, and there is no support in this best source, for the broad conclusion you stated, Bfpage, that Bb as a "pathogen is oncogenic and an infectious cause of cancer." Please. State what the experts state, and only that. We are not allowed, or in this case, qualified to do more. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:15, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you[edit]

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For careful expert scrutiny in your field of expertise. Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:57, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

I am so glad that you found the (embarrassing) mistake of my listing the same reference twice but with different lead authors in the Pelvic inflammatory disease article. Just because it has passed its GA review doesn't mean that it doesn't need more reviews-you have proven that and I am glad. I think where I went wrong is that I plugged in the doi into an automated, web-based referencing bot that spit out the 'wiki-ready' mark-up code with Clarke's name first instead of Sharma. So now I have the tedious job of going back over my contributions and created articles where I used this one reference as two....grrr. I created my own problem. Thanks again and feel free to point out the editing mistakes that I make-it can only make things better. Best Regards,

  Bfpage |leave a message  23:42, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

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Cat path-The revert[edit]

Ok. Then. That is fine. My mistake! SwagBucks101101 (talk) 18:37, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For being extremely nice during a discussion about 1 of my edits that I oops! made! Thanks CatPath- for you being nice! SwagBucks101101 (talk) 18:47, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Lyme Borreliosis[edit]

Hi CatPath,

I just wanted to comment on the recent changes you made to the Lyme disease microbiology article. The reference you cited doesn't claim these 21 species are "Lyme-associated." It just says there are 21 species which make host of deer ticks. Most of these 21 species don't have any proof for pathogenic potential.

See below:

"Although the pathogenic potential of many of these variants remains to be established, recognition is an essential first step towards unravelling their ecological role(s) and pathogenic capability. Within this category are borreliae, including B. americana, B. bavariensis, B. bissettiae, B. californiensis, B. finlandensis, B. kurtenbachii, B. mayonii, B. sinica, B. tanukii, B. turdi and B. yangtzensis, which share their vector with known pathogenic species."

So I think it's actually pretty irresponsible to call these 21 species "Lyme-associated" since the majority of them haven't been associated with Lyme disease at all. They've only been associated with host ticks which also carry the pathogenic lyme variants. Let me know your thoughts here.

Also, I gotta say, the source that I used that you removed explicitly stated the number of main species which cause Lyme disease. See below:

"Nearly all human infections are caused by three B burgdorferi sensu lato genospecies: Borrelia garinii, Borrelia afzelii, and B burgdorferi sensu stricto. All three species cause Lyme borreliosis in Europe, whereas only B burgdorferi sensu stricto causes Lyme borreliosis in the USA."

This is very much in line with a consensus of the medical literature.--Shibbolethink ( ) 17:11, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

There's a misunderstanding here. Moving to article's talk page to keep everything in one place. CatPath (talk) 18:18, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

History of syphilis[edit]

Pleased to meet you. Your recent edit [2] was undone earlier today, so I'm here to ask your expertise in the matter and whether it belongs or not. Etsybetsy (talk) 12:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)