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Page has been archived. CatcherStorm talk 00:49, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

you obviously don't know what you're talking about[edit]

CatcherStorm, I happen to be one of the world's experts on appendiceal cancer. My name is joseph misdraji - google it. the article is incorrect, mistaken, and frankly that section is crap. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:24, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

@ Welcome! A few things to keep in mind:

1. Please sign and date your posts by typing four tildes.

2. Be polite. I'm a friendly guy, but if you are intent on being rude I will likely ignore your inquiry or reply in a less encyclopedic tone, so to speak.

Though you may be a "world expert on appendiceal cancer", you must provide reliable sources when making major edits to articles. CatcherStorm talk 03:28, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

CSD G13 nominations[edit]

Hi there. I note that you have recently nominated a number of drafts for speedy deletion under criterion G13. Two requests; firstly, it saves admin time if the speedy tag is posted at the top of the page; secondly, it also saves admin time if the nomination is correctly formatted, which yours are not. Please look at template{{db-g13}} to see how it should be done. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 10:33, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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NPOV tag on Jack Posobiec[edit]

Hi there - I noticed that you added a page level NOPV template on that page right above the article content level tag. The appearance of this kind of Christmas tree tagging imposes a sort of undue weight on the article, which I think should be avoided. More importantly though, there's a talk page discussion on this which hasn't been resolved and concessions were made by replacing article heading tags with content tags. In light of the fact that this is ongoing on the talk page, please consider that it might be better to seek resolutions there rather than by wallpapering the article with various neutrality tags, as per WP:BRDEdaham (talk) 05:44, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

@Edaham: What about adding an NPOV tag to the "notable activities" section? I think both of us can agree that the section looks like a shitlist of all the controversial things he's done. CatcherStorm talk 05:45, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
@CatcherStorm: I do object to that section per WP guidelines on WP:Trivia. I think that that section is suffering from poor editing, rather than an effort to push a POV. Furthermore, I'm in the process of rewriting that section, so rather than adding the tag, perhaps you could help with writing it. I've left a more clearly formatted version of the source text under this post.
Also bear in mind that when applying this tag, it is recommended that a more detailed edit summary or TP explanation be left so that it is easier for others to resolve the issue. Failure to do so is called driveby tagging and is strongly discouraged from a productivity and etiquette point of view. Specifically the summary should point to specific issues that are actionable within the content policies. Edaham (talk) 05:44, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
update - I have added the trivia tag and left some suggestions for its removal on the talk page.
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==Notable activities==

* Posobiec led a campaign in November 2016 to discredit [[Protests against Donald Trump|anti-Trump protesters]] by planting a sign at a protest reading "Rape Melania".

<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=How one deplorable sign at an anti-Trump protest foreshadows the fight over fake news|first=|last=|website=Washington Post}}</ref>

<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=From Alt Right to Alt Lite: Naming the Hate|website=Anti-Defamation League}}</ref>

<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=Trump's erratic early morning Twitter retweets include one calling him fascist|first1=Amanda|last1=Holpuch|first2=Kevin|last2=Rawlinson|date=15 August 2017|publisher=|via=The Guardian}}</ref>

* In December 2016, Posobiec claimed without evidence that [[Disney]] had re-written scenes in the ''[[Star Wars]]'' movie ''[[Rogue One]]'' to add "Anti Trump scenes calling him a racist", and called for a boycott of the ''Star Wars'' franchise. Disney denied the allegations.

<ref>{{cite journal|url=|title=Now Trump Supporters Are Boycotting Star Wars Based on No Evidence|journal=[[Esquire (magazine)|Esquire]]|date=December 8, 2016|first=Sammy|last=Nickalls}}</ref>

* Posobiec [[live stream|live-streamed]] an investigation of the [[Pizzagate conspiracy theory]], in which high-ranking officials were alleged to have been involved in a [[Child sexual abuse|child-sex]] ring centered at a [[Washington, D.C.]] pizzeria. Posobiec was asked to leave after attempting to broadcast a child's birthday party being held in a back room of the restaurant.

<ref>{{cite news|url=|title=Pizzagate: From rumor, to hashtag, to gunfire in D.C.|newspaper=[[The Washington Post]]|date=December 6, 2016|first1=Marc|last1=Fisher|first2=John Woodrow|last2=Cox|first3=Peter|last3=Hermann3}}</ref>

* Posobiec was an organizer of the [[DeploraBall]], an event held on January 19, 2017, to celebrate [[Inauguration of Donald Trump|Trump's inauguration]].

<ref>{{cite news|url=|title=Clarendon Ballroom gets harassing calls after declining to host Trump backers' 'DeploraBall'|newspaper=[[The Washington Post]]|date=December 15, 2016|first=Rachel|last=Weiner}}</ref>

* Posobiec promoted e-mails and files leaked to [[4chan]] of [[Emmanuel Macron]] shortly before the [[French presidential election, 2017|French presidential election in 2017]].

<ref name=buzzfeed05292017/>

* Posobiec falsely said that at a [[United States Senate]] hearing on May 17, 2017, former FBI director [[James Comey]] "said under oath that Trump did not ask him to halt any investigation". The claim was later repeated by the conservative media, including in prominent outlets such as [[InfoWars]] and [[Rush Limbaugh]].

<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=A Pro-Trump Conspiracy Theorist, a False Tweet and a Runaway Story|first=Jeremy W.|last=Peters|date=10 June 2017|publisher=|}}</ref>

* Posobiec promoted the discredited conspiracy theory that [[Seth Rich]] had leaked e-mails from the [[Democratic National Committee]] to [[Wikileaks]].<ref name=buzzfeed05292017/>

* On June 4, 2017, Posobiec [[Twitter|tweeted]], "There's never been a terrorist attack at a Nascar race. Nascar fans are all armed. Draw your own conclusions." His comment was widely ridiculed on social media.

<ref>{{cite news|url=|title=Would arming the public prevent terror attacks? Pro-gun commentator prompts mass derision|newspaper=[[The Telegraph (UK)|The Telegraph]]|date=June 5, 2017|first=Adam|last=Boult}}</ref>

* Posobiec promoted a hoax that [[CNN]] had published and then deleted an article defending [[Bill Maher]]'s use of a [[racial slur]].

<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=Did CNN Delete an Article Defending Bill Maher's Use of a Racial Slur?|publisher=[[]]|date=June 5, 2017|first=Dan|last=Evon}}</ref>

* On June 14, 2017, shortly after Republican Representative [[Steve Scalise]] was shot during a baseball practice, Posobiec falsely tweeted that [[Loretta Lynch]] had previously called for "blood in the streets"

<ref name=philly>{{cite news|url=|title=Tracing right-wing alt-reality on Twitter|publisher=[[]]|date=June 18, 2017|first=Aubrey|last=Whelan}}</ref> 

and that [[Bernie Sanders]] had ordered his followers to "take down" Trump.

<ref>{{cite news|url=|title=How fake news starts: Trump supporters tie Bernie Sanders to Alexandria shooting using a fake quote|newspaper=[[Los Angeles Times]]|date=June 14, 2017|first=Colleen|last=Shalby}}</ref>

* On June 16, 2017, Posobiec disrupted a [[Shakespeare in the Park (New York City)|Shakespeare in the Park]] production of ''[[Julius Caesar (play)|Julius Caesar]]'' that depicted the title character as a President Trump-like figure. Posobiec was prompted by [[Mike Cernovich]], another alt-right conspiracy theorist, who had offered a $1,000 prize for anyone who interrupted the play.

<ref>{{cite news|url=|title=Pro-Trump protester arrested after rushing stage at controversial 'Julius Caesar' production in New York|newspaper=[[The Washington Post]]|date=June 17, 2017|first=Amy B|last=Wang}}</ref> 

Posobiec was escorted from the event along with fellow protester [[Laura Loomer]], who was arrested for [[disorderly conduct]] after refusing to leave the stage.

<ref name=philly/> 

* Posobiec organized a "Rally Against Political Violence" in Washington, D.C. on June 25, 2017 that drew a sparse crowd. [[Richard B. Spencer|Richard Spencer]], another alt-right figure who organized a separate, competing rally at the same time, ridiculed Posobiec's event and called it "pathetic".

<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=Alt-Right Boss Attacks Trump's 'Repulsive and Creepy' Fanboys|publisher=[[The Daily Beast]]|date=June 25, 2017|first=Gideon|last=Resnick}}</ref>

* In July 2017, Posobiec was caught handing out flyers thanking Democratic Senators for "protecting our quality violent porn content", including "ritual Satanic porn videos". The flyers were distributed outside the U.S. Senate at a demonstration in support of [[net neutrality]].

<ref>{{cite web|url=|title=Alt-Right Claims Net Neutrality Promotes 'Satanic Porn' in Planted Flyers|first=Ben|last=Collins|date=12 July 2017|website=The Daily Beast}}</ref>

* In August 2017, following a [[2017 Unite the Right rally|"Unite the Right" rally]] in [[Charlottesville, Virginia]] that led to violent clashes between white nationalists and anti-protesters, Posobiec said that the rally had become "massive propaganda" for the left and that the mainstream media was "fanning the flames of this violence." He said that Trump should have disavowed [[Black Lives Matter]]. Posobiec later tweeted that he had consistently disavowed white nationalism and violence.

<ref name=wapo08152017/>

*  On August 16, 2017, Posobiec participated in a small protest of a [[Statue of Lenin, Seattle|statue of Vladimir Lenin]] in [[Seattle, Washington]], to have it removed.

<ref>{{cite news|url=|title=Small group calls for removal of Fremont's Lenin statue|newspaper=[[Seattle Post-Intelligencer]]|date=August 17, 2017|first1=Kirsten|last1=O’Brien|first2=Stephen|last2=Cohen}}</ref>

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Tone concern[edit]

Dear CatcherStorm: You added a "tone" template to the article at Albert Bandura. You should go to the article's talk page and explain ways that you find the tone wrong. The fact is that Bandura is the most eminent living psychologist by many measures, so a mere listing of facts about him will seem quite laudatory, and such a listing of facts (with balance) would not be inappropriate. However, it is also plausible that there are ways that the article adopts an incorrect tone. To help critically evaluate your concern, and to help the community sort the wheat from the chaff, please go to the talk page and offer some specific details of what motivated you to insert the template. -Presearch (talk) 19:30, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Help! (Sourcing)[edit]

Hi @CatcherStorm - Hope you're doing well! You helped me with an entry a while back, and I was wondering if you could take a look at another one I've been working on? Another editor said the sourcing wasn't good enough, but they're articles about the subject from Time, The New York Times, USA TODAY, The Washington Post and others like that...The entry in question is Draft:Odysseas_Papadimitriou . Thanks in advance!

Surfjk (talk) 16:19, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

@Surfjk: You need more sources from primary news sources. I noticed you had one from HuffPost, but the article makes no direct mension of Odysseas Papadimitriou. If you can find articles from news organizations such as Fox News, Breitbart, CNN, The Washington Post, NYT, RT, Reuters, the Associated Press, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NBC, NPR, Bloomberg, Al Jazeera, BBC, etc making mention of Odysseas Papadimitriou that would be good. CatcherStorm talk 02:11, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

@CatcherStorm: Thanks for looking into this! What I don't understand is why these sources from news outlets you mentioned don't count:,,, & ?

Surfjk (talk) 18:25, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

@CatcherStorm: Happy New Year! Just wanted to make sure this didn't slip through the cracks over the holidays. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Surfjk (talk) 00:43, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

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Mike Pompeo[edit]

You now have several editors opposing your edits. If you want to keep reverting, I'll be glad to take you to an administrator. It's not really worth edit warring with others over a format. I'd strongly advise to quit reverting. Corky 02:34, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

@Corkythehornetfan: Exactly, so stop reverting something that is correct. CatcherStorm talk 02:41, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Right, and I haven't reverted your edits in a couple of days, but others have... which should give you a clue... Corky 02:43, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@Corkythehornetfan: Their intentions may be good, but they are incorrect. There are exceptions to following the MoS, and it applies here. I am following a consensus/precedent set by Wikipedia editors. If you seriously believe that Mike Pompeo's infobox should be like that, you are welcome to revert Gina Haspel, John R. Bolton, and a slew of other infoboxes. Literally every other infobox follows my format, because it is the one widely accepted. For prior examples, see 1 and 2. Do you happen to know why these weren't reverted under MoS? CatcherStorm talk 02:48, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
No idea, but there is pretty much a consensus for Pompeo's article. If there's a consensus for one article then we follow it for that specific article. A good adult would discuss it on the talk page before reverting again, instead of acting like a little kid and constantly reverting others because they aren't getting what they want. Corky 02:53, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@Corkythehornetfan: Yeah, there's no "consensus" for Pompeo's article, buddy. If you want to generate consensus, then go do it instead of traveling to my talk page and talking shit to me like you're better than I am. I'm following precedent, you're following a contrived "consensus" which you pulled out of your ass because you think that you're right. CatcherStorm talk 02:59, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Well, I said "pretty much", not "we have a consensus", so let's get that right. The point is you have three+ people disagreeing with you yet you want to edit war. Just saying. I'll leave now because it's not worth my time. Corky 03:02, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
@Corkythehornetfan: If you want to revert my edits, then generate consensus on the talk page. Start a RfC at Talk:Mike Pompeo. If there are 3 editors who disagree with me, there has to be more than 3 who agree with me. If everyone disagreed with me, everyone would be following your version. I've already shown that this isn't the case.

Also, don't ever try and come to someone's talk page, especially MINE, to talk down on them. Read the notice at the top of the page next time. CatcherStorm talk 03:10, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

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First Ladies & Second Ladies[edit]

Howdy. First & Second Ladies of the US, are generally not numbered, as they're not political offices. Therefore, I've deleted those numberings you've added. If you disagree? open an Rfc at the appropriate WikiProject, which covers these articles. GoodDay (talk) 01:08, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

@GoodDay: What the hell is your problem? I spent so much time editing those articles, the least you could have done was start an RfC in the first place before reverting all of my edits. CatcherStorm talk 01:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
You'r the one who made the changes without getting a consensus. Those are not political offices. You should've checked before mass adding them. GoodDay (talk) 01:49, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
@GoodDay: No, I made a minor edit to all of them that happens to specify which First Lady they were. My edits went uncontested for a week before you showed up to mass revert them before consulting me prior to editing them. It doesn't matter if they're political offices or not, it specifies which First Lady they were. CatcherStorm talk 01:52, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
They're not offices & are rarely if ever numbered. We already know which first ladies/second ladies they were, via who they're married to & the years they served. Anyways, I've opened up an Rfc at Wikipedia:WikiProject United States Government, as it's likely you're not going to remove the numberings. GoodDay (talk) 01:56, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

FWIW, I'll abide by the decision of the Rfc (which will close in mid-May) & also this content dispute we're having, isn't personal. GoodDay (talk) 02:18, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

@GoodDay: You made it personal lol. CatcherStorm talk 02:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I just saw this exchange - I was reverting your changes too before I saw this as it's never been the style of these articles, but I'll take a look at the RFC. Tvoz/talk 02:45, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Catcherstorm, you should not have restored all these contested numberings while they are being contested. I suggest you self-revert these edits, which change a long-standing precedent, until there is a consensus to add them. --MelanieN (talk) 04:03, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

@MelanieN: @GoodDay: You might as well close your "RfC". I won't bother trying to improve articles here anymore if there's always going to be a guy with nothing better to do trying to shut my shit down. CatcherStorm talk 16:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC) @MelanieN: - You can go ahead and mass rollback all of my edits. GoodDay, hop off of my talk page. Thanks. CatcherStorm talk 16:28, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) CatcherStorm, we realize you made these changes in good faith, believing they would be an improvement. But we are always subject to WP:CONSENSUS here. Before you make changes in a whole class of articles, it wouldn't hurt to suggest it first on the talk page - or to do it on one or two closely watched articles to see the reaction, before doing it to all of them. I'm sorry you have found this discouraging, but please do continue to improve articles. --MelanieN (talk) 16:34, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

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NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018[edit]

Hello CatcherStorm, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!


  • WP:ACREQ has been implemented. The flow at the feed has dropped back to the levels during the trial. However, the backlog is on the rise again so please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day; a backlog approaching 5,000 is still far too high. An effort is also needed to ensure that older unsuitable older pages at the back of the queue do not get automatically indexed for Google.

Deletion tags

  • Do bear in mind that articles in the feed showing the trash can icon may have been tagged by inexperienced or non NPR rights holders. They require your further verification.

Backlog drive:

  • A backlog drive will take place from 10 through 20 June. Check out our talk page at WT:NPR for more details. NOTE: It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing. Despite our goal of reducing the backlog as much as possible, please do not rush while reviewing.


  • There will be a large increase in the number of editathons in June. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.

Paid editing - new policy

  • Now that ACTRIAL is ACREQ, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary. There is a new global WMF policy that requires paid editors to connect to their adverts.

Subject-specific notability guidelines

  • The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
  • Reviewers are requested to familiarise themselves with the new version of the notability guidelines for organisations and companies.

Not English

  • A common issue: Pages not in English or poor, unattributed machine translations should not reside in main space even if they are stubs. Please ensure you are familiar with WP:NPPNE. Check in Google for the language and content, tag as required, then move to draft if they do have potential.


  • Development is underway by the WMF on upgrades to the New Pages Feed, in particular ORES features that will help to identify COPYVIOs, and more granular options for selecting articles to review.
  • The next issue of The Signpost has been published. The newspaper is one of the best ways to stay up to date with news and new developments. between our newsletters.

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NPP Backlog Elimination Drive[edit]

Hello CatcherStorm, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

We can see the light at the end of the tunnel: there are currently 2900 unreviewed articles, and 4000 unreviewed redirects.

Announcing the Backlog Elimination Drive!

  • As a final push, we have decided to run a backlog elimination drive from the 20th to the 30th of June.
  • Reviewers who review at least 50 articles or redirects will receive a Special Edition NPP Barnstar: Special Edition New Page Patroller's Barnstar. Those who review 100, 250, 500, or 1000 pages will also receive tiered awards: 100 review coin, 250 review coin, 500 review coin, 1000 review certificate.
  • Please do not be hasty, take your time and fully review each page. It is extremely important that we focus on quality reviewing.

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