User talk:Catrope

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Please refer to my user talk page on . Don't try to contact me here, as I don't visit this page regularly.

Hi Catrope,

Ik zet toch maar heir wat neer, aangezien de battlestarwiki een account vereist, en dat juist weer van een wikinetwerk is waar ik die niet heb :) Hoop dta je het toch leest. Anyway, ging er alleen om even te zeggen dat ik je vraag op meta beantwoord heb. effeietsanders 12:32, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


Hi Catrope (of, 'hoi Catrope'; maar ik ga in het Engels verder), I saw your change to XLinkbot's settings. That setting has been for a long time as it is, but has before been tested the other way around. This still seems the best between two, and is in line with the other antivandalism bots.

  1. Revert one edit: what happens is that a true spammer is first adding "see our rubbish at our Rubbish page", figures out that it does not give a working link, and changes "Rubbish page" to "[ Rubbish page]". Or first "see our rubbish at", sees no working link, and changes to "see our rubbish at". Reverting only the last edit, leaves the rubbish, which then has to be cleaned manually.
  1. Revert all edits: what you said, editors do a good faith edit, and then a second, where they insert a 'offending' link. If we revert all, it may result in good edits also be reverted.

The first scenario leaves obvious rubbish, and these things do happen regularly, especially be new users. The latter does not have that risk.

The first is less bitey, indeed. But the welcome message that is left suggests the editor to reconsider and, if necessary, undo the bot edit. That message is also designed to be as non-bitey as possible. By far the most editors stay at the friendly remark stage, not that many get to the first or higher warning levels (except for true spammers).

I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:33, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I forgot. The second scenario is similar to an editor doing a good faith edit which includes an 'offending' link. In that case also all is reverted and the editor is asked to reconsider. Reverting one edit is not less bitey than reverting all, thát effect would be the same, but reverting one edit leaves sometimes more rubbish. Hence, we revert all. --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:35, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia research[edit]

Hi Roan,

this is Dario from the University of Surrey, thanks for setting me up! --DarTar (talk) 08:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome! --Catrope (talk) 12:41, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

ArticleFeedback bug[edit]

Duplicate of latest post at WP:Village_pump (technical)#Article Feedback Tool - can't disable it.

OK, it's happened again, on URL Breton Island, though I doubt the URL is significant. It happened on the first new page tab after restarting FF. The debug output is:

"Reload to activate window console"
"enabling javascript debugger to support console"
>>> mw.user.options.get('articlefeedback-disable')

How do I "send" the screen image? Jan1naD (talkcontrib) 21:34, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

BTW, thanks for your interest. Jan1naD (talkcontrib) 21:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, so Firebug is saying AFT is indeed being recognized as disabled for you. That's very, very weird. Don't bother with the screenshot, the "1" part was all I cared about.
Could you try to hard-refresh (Ctrl+F5 or Shift+Refresh button) the page with Firebug still enabled, and see if any error messages pop up in the console? If not I really wouldn't know how to debug this short of sitting down at your computer :( --Catrope (talk) 21:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

The refresh gave no error messages, and I could not the AFT to re-appear in that session. I think it may be the way I close and restart Firefox. When I close I save the tabs, to have them in place when I reopen the program. I have just done that, and the AFT reappeared on the tab I have been looking at, even though it was not visible when I closed FF. The Firebug console, immediately after restart, shows a few messages. Two GETs and two Errors. Copying the console as best I can I have:

Firebug's log limit has been reached. 0 entries not shown.              Preferences
200 OK
load.p...203500Z (line 83)
Firebug's log limit has been reached. 0 entries not shown.              Preferences      
200 OK
load.p...203500Z (line 83)
cache   /cn.js
language        en
project wikipedia
title   Special:BannerListLoader
Response Headersview source
Date    Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:40:46 GMT
Server  Apache
Cache-Control   private, s-maxage=0, max-age=0, must-revalidate
Content-Encoding        gzip
Vary    Accept-Encoding
Content-Length  122
Content-Type    text/javascript; charset=utf-8
X-Cache MISS from, HIT from, HIT from
X-Cache-Lookup  HIT from, HIT from, HIT from
Age     211
Request Headersview source
User-Agent      Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv: Gecko/20110803 Firefox/3.6.20 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Accept  application/json, text/javascript, */*
Accept-Language en-gb,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset  ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive      115
Connection      keep-alive
X-Requested-With        XMLHttpRequest
Cookie  enwikiUserName=Jan1nad; edittoolscharsubset=0; vector-nav-p-tb=true; hidegeonoticeCampusAmbassadorsUK=1; hidegeonoticeBritishLibraryEvent=1; mediaWiki.user.bucket%3Aext.articleFeedback-options=8%3Ashow; surveyStatus2=done; mediaWiki.user.bucket%3Aext.articleFeedback-tracking=8%3Aignore; stopMobileRedirect=true; hidesnmessage=1; centralauth_LoggedOut=20110818155658; centralauth_User=Jan1nad; enwikiUserID=5102871; clicktracking-session=cyxvtXQTl1Qysebg4hfHNw1MErWMWGLZY; enwiki_session=73708d4ee5e98636f9908d5d21f9e77c; centralauth_Session=a2402e2e7d12570daee5987f9c12d111

[{"name":"pifreferendum","weight":100,"display_anon":0,"display_account":1,"fundraising":0,"landing_pages":"","campaign":"pif referendum"}]

Sort by keyDo not sort
        Object { name="pifreferendum", weight=100, more...}
200 OK
load.p...203500Z (line 83)


this.subframe.contentWindow.channelUplink is undefined
[Break On This Error] function ChannelManager(b,e,d,a,c){thi....bind(this,a),this.retryInterval);}};
sMqYX-GOOLk.js (line 7)
this.subframe.contentWindow.channelUplink is undefined
[Break On This Error] function ChannelManager(b,e,d,a,c){thi....bind(this,a),this.retryInterval);}};
sMqYX-GOOLk.js (line 7)

I freely admit that it's not causing me the greatest amount of grief, but I am certainly happy to do other tests if this is something you wish to pursue. Cheers. Jan1naD (talkcontrib) 15:06, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Category sorting[edit]

Hi Roan, I expect that you've been asked before, but regarding the change to category sort algorithms in March 2011, the question of why this was done has popped up again (it surfaces every few weeks on different discussion pages). Please comment at Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Sort keys using Greek letters, and if possible, provide the bugzilla ticket numbers. The best I could find was - thanks. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Vitruvian Barnstar Hires.png The Technical Barnstar
For your amazing work on protocol-relative URLs, and all the support you've given me on the HTTPS project. Ryan lane (talk) 18:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Documentation for gadget authors[edit]

I saw you had done some work on gadgets. We're trying to start a library for gadget authors to use. Please check it out and post any questions or comments there — MarkAHershberger(talk) 19:19, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Peace Barnstar Hires.png The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Thank you for your attempts to fix the code for the VE hack, without which it never would've worked (afaik, idk javascript enough to be sure). You're the only developer who I saw want to work with the community, which I commend you for - not holding the "we're larger than you" methodology (re: ACTRIAL as one big example) some of them do. Thanks again. ~Charmlet -talk- 23:40, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia DC Annual Meeting and more![edit]

Our Archives.jpg

Hello, fellow Wikipedian!

I am excited to announce the upcoming Wikimedia DC Annual Meeting at the National Archives! We'll have free lunch, an introduction by Archivist of the United States David Ferriero, and a discussion featuring Ed Summers, the creator of CongressEdits. Join your fellow DC-area Wikipedians on Saturday, October 18 from 12 to 4:30 PM. RSVP today!

Also coming up we have the Human Origins edit-a-thon on October 17 and the WikiSalon on October 22. Hope to see you at our upcoming events!


James Hare

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End-of-the-year meetups[edit]


You're invited to the end-of-the-year meetup at Busboys and Poets on Sunday, December 14 at 6 PM. There is Wi-Fi, so bring your computer if you want!

You are also invited to our WikiSalon on Thursday, December 18 at 7 PM.

Hope to see you at our upcoming events!


James Hare

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test of mention on talk page[edit]

@Catrope: did you get one notification or two? Jmatazzoni (talk) 20:00, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

@Jmatazzoni: Just one. --Catrope (talk) 20:01, 17 December 2015 (UTC)