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Hello, Chongkian! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking Button sig.png or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Gimme danger (talk) 20:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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British Empire[edit]

After World War II, so many colonies became independent that it was not an empire anymore. The correct term for the country would be "United Kingdom", but Hong Kong was not part of the kingdom--it only belonged to the kingdom. HkCaGu (talk) 21:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Due to Hong Kong's special history, the most appropriate and common notation is simply "Hong Kong", which is the most non-controverial form. The next most acceptable form is "British Hong Kong". In Ma Ying-jeou's case, I say just "Hong Kong" because whether it was British or not has no bearing in his life. HkCaGu (talk) 08:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Linking & overlinking[edit]

Greetings. I have undone some of the wikilinks you added to the article Solar energy that cross the line into overlinking. You might find it useful to look at WP:LINK, particularly here. Hertz1888 (talk) 18:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

England[edit]

Hi Chongkian.

I can see why you want to change English in Great Fire of London to something less Anglocentric. Kingdom of England is rather old fashioned. Just England would be better.--Charles (talk) 08:47, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Sutton Tunnel railway accident[edit]

Hello. I've reverted the edits you made to this article because of overlinking (see the message from Hertz1888 above). It is generally agreed that for readers of English Wikipedia, there is no need to link "England" or to explain that it is part of the UK. Cheers. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Similarly on Tay Bridge disaster and Wootton bridge collapse.--Old Moonraker (talk) 10:52, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Lin Join-sane[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Lee Han-shen[edit]

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Lee Han-shen for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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Your new articles on politicians of the Republic of China[edit]

Hi, Chongkian. Hope you are doing fine. I see that you are enthusiastically creating short articles on politicians from the Republic of China, which is great. Only that I am afraid you are committing one mistake: you are wrongly categorizing these articles under Category:Diplomats of the Republic of China. You should actually categorize them under Category:Politicians of the Republic of China. Best regards, --Fadesga (talk) 19:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I was trying to make those new articles for other people to further develop it. Cuz if no one starts, it seems like there will never be one. Ok, my bad on the wrong categorization of the articles. I've changed most of them already. Chongkian (talk) 11:00, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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New articles on Taiwanese Politicians[edit]

Thank you for your work. But please link them to Chinese Wikipedia articles if you can... --Nlu (talk) 10:48, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I was thinking about that for some times. But I found some difficulties on how to link the newly created Wikipedia article (in English let's say) to the current existing one (in other language, e.g. Chinese Wikipedia let's say). Tried to browse on Wikiepdia help on that, but couldn't really get any clear answer. If you can help me link that, that would be really great ;) Chongkian (talk) 11:00, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem. :-) Most Taiwanese politicians are far more likely to have Chinese Wikipedia articles than articles in any other language, so one thing to do is, if you have their Chinese names (which you do for most of them), search for them in Chinese Wikipedia. Then, basically, at the end of the article, add [[zh:<whoever>]]. Thank you for your contributions.
Oh, one more thing: please make sure, if you can, that the articles have the proper sort key. On top of the list of the categories, you can put, {{DEFAULTSORT:<last name>, <first name>}} for that purpose. --Nlu (talk) 11:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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Perng Fai-nan[edit]

Hello Chongkian,

This is just a courtesy visit to inform you that I took the liberty to expand your article a little since it was tagged as a stub. I've also put in a few references that support the sections I added. Hope, you'd like my little effort. I'd appreciate receiving your say on this. Best regards. (MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 04:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC))

Oh, feel free to do so ;) .. All of the articles I've created on Taiwanese politicians are mostly only the opening/introduction with the most basic data I get from their own respective government dept website. I hope everyone can further add more & more information about their background, works, or current government policy or decision making. I purposely make all of this for everyone to further expand it as time goes by ;) Of course with all of the proper references. Chongkian (talk) 06:48, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013[edit]

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I can't find the "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" button. However, I've added more information to the article, as it is still a new articles. More and more information will be added soon. I've also included the link to its Chinese Wikipedia article, which is fully well-written.Chongkian (talk) 03:16, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

advice[edit]

Another admin quick correctly declined to delete the article, because it did have content. But the best way to avoid this sort of thing is to make sure there is substantial content from the very beginning, including several good third party references. I've noticed your articles on museum. The museums are probably notable, and should have articles--but there must be more content. You need a description of the museum, including its history, an indication of the highlights in the collection, and references. They can be in Chinese--but do give some indication of their meaning in English--translate at leas the title. It's betterto make 5 good articles than 10 weak ones. DGG ( talk ) 03:15, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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2013 Taiwan food scandal[edit]

Chongkian,

I don't think this is in any way connected to the cooking oil problems in Taiwan, but do you think the Taiwanese starch problem deserves mention in the 2013 Taiwan food scandal article? See [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] for coverage. Vycl1994 (talk) 20:05, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Which particular part inside the 2013 Taiwan food scandal you think is not relevant? I'm really open to any suggestion or improvement, and please do so at your convenience if it can make the article becomes more legitimate. I initially wanted to write only about the cooking oil thing (because it all started from the cooking oil itself) as the "2013 Taiwan cooking oil scandal" or any similar title. But as time goes by, other types of food (besides oil) were found to violate the food regulation (if I can put this way), so I tried to combine all of those foods into one article. Even now the Taiwanese authorities are still undergoing the safety inspection (as a respond to the food scandal issues) to their milk farm. See [6] Chongkian (talk) 02:36, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
I think you misunderstood my question. I meant that even though the starch problems had nothing to do with the oil problems, should it be added to the article? The starch issue first came up in May 2013, as fair as I can tell. Then other investigations in October uncovered the oil problem. These two starch and oil problems are not connected; one did not cause the other, but should it be added because because it happened in 2013 in Taiwan? Or is it best to start another article specifically about the starch topic? I am not picking on the work you already did to the page. Rather, I am asking if reliably sourced information about the adulterated starch should be added into the existing article. I hope my question is clear and that if you think this is notable enough, you will add it. Vycl1994 (talk) 05:34, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Oh sorry, my bad. Now I understand what you mean. After I read it thoroughly, based on my understanding I think those two events (the one you said and the current oil (including milk etc) food issues) have no relations between each other. The oil scandal is not the continuation of the starch problem. Milk scandal is the continuation of the oil scandal (the Taiwanese authorities try to make a grand check on all of their food products after knowing the problem in their oil), that's why I grouped them within this article as saying "2013 Taiwan food scandal" instead of just "2013 Taiwan oil scandal". Besides, all of the responds in Taiwan and outside Taiwan are all related to those oil-related (and subsequently all of the other food that follows after the discovery of the adulterated oil). For the Taiwan starch scandal/problem, I think it's best to make it as a unique article, since it is not directly related to the current ongoing food scandal. You can always make it as "2013 Taiwan starch scandal" or any related title. But maybe at the beginning of the article, it's good to include the sentence "Not to be confused with the 2013 Taiwan food scandal". Something like that. Hopefully this helps. Cheers Chongkian (talk) 14:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I might get to work on it sometime, though not now, as I have no time to make anything other than minor edits. Vycl1994 (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Chongkian. I've noticed that you seem to have an interest in articles about Taiwanese subjects. I am not that experienced an editor on Wikipedia, and I was wondering if you could help me fix the article on Liouguei District. I tried to change it from Liugui District, but I accidentally mistyped it to Lipuguei District. Do you know how to change the article title to Liouguei District and delete the mistaken title page from Wikipedia? Transphasic (talk) 20:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

No worries, dude. Done! Try check again the Liouguei District Chongkian (talk) 04:34, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Transphasic (talk) 19:15, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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Well done on all the museums in Taiwan than you have added. However, the categories for these need some work. You should not include super-categories of "Category:Museums in Taiwan" such as "Category:Taiwan", "Category:Visitor attractions in Taiwan", and "Category:Museums". If possible, sub-categories of "Category:Museums in Taiwan" should be used. If the year of establishment is known (e.g., "YYYY"), the following are relevant: [[Category:Museums established in YYYY]] [[Category:YYYY establishments in Taiwan]] . If the year of establishment is not known, use: Category:Museums with year of establishment missing. Also, use full references rather than bare URLs and the stub "{{Taiwan-museum-stub}}" is appropriate. I have updated some entries. I hope this helps and keep up the good work! — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, thanks a lot for all of the inputs. I've been concentrating more on creating new articles only (because basically there is just no article at all in describing some particular museums! let it alone be more detail), without really focusing the detail on the other components of the article (e.g. category, the reference URL etc). Sure, I'll take not on that and will make those improvements. Cheers! Chongkian (talk) 02:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Great, I will work through the articles gradually under Category:Museums, where there should be no actual museums. If you create new articles or update old ones, it would be good to attend to these details. Have fun editing! Best wishes, Jonathan Bowen (talk) 00:46, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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  • Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, Pre-1949 Mainland, old Singapore and Malaysia as well as most overseas Chinese communities: Traditional first
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I do understand your point. I was initially thinking that way. But do we end up having to have British English name alongside any American English name of article all the time? (e.g. in the case of if both versions have different spelling between each other). Or has there been any general concession in Wikipedia regarding putting traditional and simplified version of name alongside each other? I don't mind putting all of the simplified together with traditional name regarding any Chinese-related article if that's the way it is. And even regarding the Chinese pinyin, should we always stick to Hanyu Pinyin (for Mainland China, Taiwan, Singapore)? Or even should be include Tongyong Pinyin for pre-2008 Taiwan and pre-1950s Mainland China as well and Cantonese Pinyin for Hong Kong & Macau-related articles? Chongkian (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
From my understanding there is a general concession to write both forms of Chinese. Now, if there are a lot of "attributes" (different dialect spellings - AFAIK only use non-Mandarin dialects if the particular province is relevant) then we can use a special Chinese language template that lists traditional and simplified written forms and romanizations according to different dialects, but when it's just Mandarin I put the info in the lead. From my understanding Hanyu Pinyin is put in every China-related/Chinese subject, but Tongong Pinyin is also listed if it's 1990s?-2008 Taiwan. For Wade-Giles, for pre-1949 Mainland and pre-1990s?? Taiwan (for many old subjects, the scholarship uses Wade-Giles - I've read through journal articles about Chinese subjects and I will say that Wade-Giles is very helpful for inclusion in articles about pre-1949 Mainland subjects as well as during the period when the US didn't normalize with the PRC) WhisperToMe (talk) 04:47, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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Taiwan[edit]

Hi, I've removed the "establishment" category you have added to a number of cities in Taiwan as it is incorrect - all of the cities were founded long before the modern period. "Establishment" categories are generally for things like schools, businesses etc. Cheers. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 16:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

If you check deeper into each of those Taiwanese cities history, the reason I put the establishment year category is more on their current status of the city (either as county-controlled city, district, provincial city, special municipality etc - because as time passes by, there are some adjustments on those administrative divisions), not on the very first time that city appear on world's map. Can that be considered as a "legal-entity establishment"? Chongkian (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:15, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
I did check, and "no", the fact that the administrative status of a particular city, town, etc. changes over time does not negate its prior existence or alter when it was originally established. If you extrapolate your reasoning then you would end up with a bunch of unnecessary categories as in this trivial example: "cities established in the eight century" "cities that became a "zhou" during the Tang dynasty", "cities that were captured by pirates in 1756", "cities that became a provincial-level city in the Qing Dynasty" and so on ad infinitum, whereas the first one would be sufficient. The bottom line is if it isn't true, it shouldn't be in Wikipedia. Keelung was not established in 1945 so it does not belong in that category. Best ► Philg88 ◄ talk 16:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Chongkian, I see that you are an active member of the WikiProject Taiwan. I have recently created the article Secondary education in Taiwan, could you help to check the article if it could be further improved? I intended to translate from Chinese FA but failed to due to real life constraints.

I am not familiar with this topic as I have never received education there. Are you a Taiwanese? HYH.124 (talk) 07:04, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi there. Sure, let me see if I can add anything else that I know, linking to any Taiwan universities, Ministry of Education, K-12 Education Administration, or maybe probably education history of the ROC before 1949. In creating article about particular country/region, you don't really have to be a native/citizen of that place. A third people's point of view may sometimes be completely 100% objective in seeing and evaluating something, because he/she is not raised by the common 'misconception' or 'propaganda' from that particular place. Me? Let's just say I'm a person who is really interested in many Taiwan-related articles ;) Chongkian (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 08:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

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Oh, sure. I will pay more attention to that. Some (or perhaps many) categories just don't exist yet. Generally, I will classify it by stub/or not stub, the year of establishment, then county/city/municipality, then the type (tourist attraction, museum, station, gov etc). Chongkian (talk)

Yeah so if you create something like a waterfall or something, a category like Waterfalls of xx County might be necessary if there is more than one or/and a Geography of xxx District.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:36, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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Oh ok, I get what you mean. Seems like there are too many articles already (in the order of hundreds) linked to the Centers for Disease Control of the US version. So I've decided to add the redirect link at the beginning of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention article to the CDC in Taiwan. Maybe that's the win-win one. Thanks for the advice, Russ! ~ ;) Chongkian (talk) 01:30, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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Could you point me to the right page for discussion among WikiProject memberes? I have ideas, but I'm confused on which page is the right one for discussion. Transphasic (talk) 00:42, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Transphasic, I also rarely (or probably never) join any discussion among WikiProject Taiwan members. The only page I have found so far that discuss WikiProject Taiwan topics is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Taiwan. The other page which has more discussion I've found is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Taiwan-related_topics_notice_board. Chongkian (talk)
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Especially for your hard work on Malaysian musems and historic site! Thank you! Wakanebe Wizard (talk) 03:22, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Straits Chinese Jewellery Museum[edit]

Hi, do you know when this building was built? Wakanebe Wizard (talk) 04:19, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Uhm, as we all know, I only put the information on any Wikipedia articles I've made only if I can find it on any website as a legit source, or if anyone had taken any photo of the building information (e.g. name plate, wall writing) and upload it to Wikimedia Commons. Regarding that Straits Chinese Jewellery Museum, the only information I found is the opening date of the museum, which is in October 2012. But the year for the building itself to be built/constructed, I haven't found any information on that. Probably the next time I enter the museum, I shall ask all of the required information (for noble Wiki article) from the museum personnel itself by interview or other means. Of course once an article has been made, I'll try to keep adding more information to make it a more & more noble article. But since there are just so many museums/buildings/structures in Malacca which has no article at all at the moment, I'm trying to establish the very basic information first for such museums, e.g. name, native name, location, geographic coordinate, reference, opening date, construction date, photos (if any) etc. Chongkian (talk) 04:31, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I've just found that the building used to be the former home of a prominent Peranakan Chinese. But still didn't know yet if the building was built either by the Portuguese, Dutch or the British. But, thanks for your time to focus on the Malacca topic. (you are now in Malacca aren't you?) :) Wakanebe Wizard (talk) 04:52, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Yup, you got that right. At least I'm based here at the moment. Had been moving around before like in my Wikimedia Commons (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Chongkian) for all the photos I had taken before when I was at those particular areas. Are u in New Zealand or in Malaysia now? Chongkian (talk) 05:19, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
That's great, do you have plan to round the whole state? Currently I'm in New Zealand, but will come there if I get any chance. :) Wakanebe Wizard (talk) 05:28, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
Not really in my plan though. But I believe for sure I will go around, and shall take photos and get some information to make any new Wikipedia articles which is not yet exist. Anyhow, is there any more private way to communicate with you? Looks like everyone in the world (who opens Wikipedia) can see this page :P Chongkian (talk) 11:57, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Hurmmmm, unfortunately. I'm like kinda that one who like to be private. Do you have WeChat? Wakanebe Wizard (talk) 15:41, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Happy Chinese New Year![edit]

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Oh, haha .. Thanks, I didn't expect this! 祝你农历新年快乐!I'm still wondering how to communicate with you effectively in private? Hmm .. Chongkian (talk) 14:19, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
You're welcome. It's okay, I prefer to become an anonymous. 718smiley.svg Wakanebe Wizard (talk) 18:10, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I've seen my name there on your User page! haha .. Sorry for the few new articles or updates lately, a bit busy on business trip right now. Btw, I saw your writing on your user page So I have decide to retired from now .. Really? Please don't! Chongkian (talk) 23:37, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

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Oh, looks like I've missed out the List of heads of local governments in the Republic of China. Thanks for the reminder, I'll update it asap. Thanks, and Happy Chinese New Year ~ ;) Chongkian (talk) 10:33, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Done! The only thing is that if one reference is enough or not for the article. It contains all of the result of the election though (on the local heads). Chongkian (talk) 13:48, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Malaysia Museums[edit]

You're welcome. I imagine it must be quite stressful to have a bunch of your articles all nominated for deletion at once, so keep checking for sources: newspapers, books, and scholarly articles are best. I'll do my part too. Also, you can keep track of what articles LibStar has been putting up for deletion with the AfD Stats tool here. He nominated another two yesterday. Good luck! Altamel (talk) 01:11, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much there for all of the efforts!! .. I mean, thinking this way, people should help more (instead of doing deleting-spree for the sake of "upholding sacred Wikipedia constitution") on the people who are willing to contribute their time & efforts to write new articles which have not existed before. Besides, that's what Wikipedia is about, to give free knowledge to everyone in a neutral point of view. It does take time just to write one article, because you always need the information on its name, native name, coordinate location, introduction, history (establishment date, construction date, opening/officiating date), website references, any facebook page, wikipedia article category, any information on the exhibition, any transportation info to that place etc. I guess all of these information can fulfill already all of the basic needs for an article to be established. To make this, it often takes more than 1 full day to do it. And again there are photos, sometimes you have to drive about an hour (or maybe 2 hours for return trip) just to get the photo of that place for the article, including paying entrance fee to get the interior photo (I must also double check if any photo taking is allowed or no inside any establishment). And again, most of these articles are still newborn baby, of course you cant expect it to have a long and deep coverage like let's say The Great Wall of China. And isn't that that's what Wikipedia is about, to bring equality to all of those establishment around the world in every country/state/province/district, not just only those in the United States or Europe. And these places are not just "small shops", all of them are well-established establishments listed in the local government/council/tourism website. All of tourists visiting the town will for sure visit these establishments. So yeah, don't expect it to be like the Louvre Museum in France where I believe there are hundreds of editor for that article everyday. We can't just let the big becomes bigger, while the small is being suppressed and deleted just like that. For your information, nothing among the article I do it for commercial purpose. All of these are my interest in spreading free knowledge and information to everyone in a full voluntary work. The least people can do is to tag stub for that article, instead of do that deletion tag. T_T ~ Chongkian (talk) 01:25, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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Chinatown, Malacca City[edit]

Hi, can you create this article as you may know more about it? I'm currently developing the Malacca City article and I think Jonker Walk are not a single Chinatown but part of the main Malacca Chinatown after reading this. Your help are really appreciated, thank you. ~ Muffin Wizard ;) 12:40, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, let me do some initial research first as the defined area (outer area border) of Malacca's Chinatown, and if there is any official boundary on that. Cuz sometimes over here things are pretty ambiguous. Even the exact border of Malacca City within Malacca State is never clear (not to mention Hang Tuah Jaya area also), which makes it a bit frustrating to create articles in which we have to know the exact detail to avoid overlapping with other articles/areas. Btw, if you are free and are around Malaysia/Singapore, please feel free to come to Singapore Wikipedia Meet Up 8 later on 8 November 2015 ;) Chongkian (talk) 13:21, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Unfortunately, I'm not in Peninsular Malaysia right now. :P ~ Muffin Wizard ;) 00:04, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

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Singapore 8[edit]

Will you able to upload our group picture on commons? Thanks!--Exec8 (talk) 15:37, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Sure, no probs. I've just come back from Singapore today. Chongkian (talk) 10:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Uploaded already ;) Chongkian (talk) 16:52, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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Tung Fang Junior College of Industry and Commerce[edit]

FYI... you created a redirect to itself. Bgwhite (talk) 07:30, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for the notice! Probably I pasted the wrong words. I was redirecting all of its former names to its current names. Chongkian (talk) 11:47, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup 1[edit]

I can bring my brother who also occasionally edit on Wikipedia. He is Hafiz13100. BTW, if you don't know about me, check my user page.

I can also suggest the user Aiman_abmajid (now operating the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Malaysiana85 account) if you want. Khairul hazim 13:13, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

May I know where you all staying? Is it north (Penang, Perak), central (KL, Klang Valley) or south (Malacca, Johor etc)? So that I can think of a central place for the meetup. I'm staying south, and also I have a Wikipedian based in Singapore interested to join this first Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup 1. Chongkian (talk) 00:08, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry for late reply. I live in Kuala Lumpur.Khairul hazim 01:06, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

Prospective Meetup in Johor Bahru 1Q 2016[edit]

I like to have a meetup either Jan, Feb or Mar 2016 in JB or Batam. Let me know if this can work out.--Exec8 (talk) 12:09, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Looks like we will have it on 22 May 2016 in JB. I'm still doing the planning for it. Once confirmed, I'll let you all know (either in Facebook event page or in Wikipedia group/discussion). Chongkian (talk) 17:18, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

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Commons category placement[edit]

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Oh, thanks for the correction notice. Will change them afterwards. Cheers! Chongkian (talk) 01:15, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

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Oh, hehe .. thanks. I just love to write new articles during my spare free time if I have some idea to write (or if no one has ever write those articles yet) - you know, to the point where you start to get "addicted" to see if things are properly listed and displayed, hehe. I do acknowledge many of them are still in the stub condition, cuz basically I've just (for e.g. museum) written its name, native name, coordinate location, basic general description, location, history, year of establishment, architecture, exhibition, transportation info (if any), category, see also, etc. At least I've tried to put all of the most minimum required information for an article to stand alone. These also including photos (for some other articles), in which I need to travel or drive around to get the photos for those articles and list them down in Commons, and also the categorization of photos inside Commons and their inter-linkage between articles, different language of articles and with their photo category in Commons via Wikidata. Again, this is due to the limitation from the sources I could find in the internet. I've searched everywhere, and that's the only info I could get. So it's like I'm trying to create those "basic layout" first for other people to freely expand them to make them as great articles, not just simply "inflate" the total number I've written. But someone at least must have start writing them first to make the general basic outline, and to have those articles synchronized with other articles (year, district location, lists, naming convention etc). If particular article has so many sources, I believe many people would have created them since long time ago (e.g. article about Zika virus, gravitational wave etc - which are the mainstream ones).
Nevertheless, sometimes I also do write articles until it has expanded significantly due to the vast availability of the source (e.g. 2016 Taiwan earthquake, 2014 Kaohsiung gas explosions, New Taipei City, Islam in Taiwan, Electricity sector in Taiwan, Taiwanese local elections 2014, Electricity sector in Hong Kong, 2015 Ma–Xi meeting, Electricity sector in Macau etc). So again, it really depends on the availability of the information source in the Internet. Chongkian (talk) 23:02, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for you reply![edit]

Hey! Thank you for replying here. Help is always welcome! :) At the moment, I am just waiting for a few more people to respond. Once we have a few more of us, we need to discuss some conventions for SG geo articles. Some of the more pressing issues are - distinguishing between a planning area and town (eg. Bukit Merah planning area vs Bukit Merah town), revising old templates and fixing disambiguation pages. Hope we can work together. Thank you once again for your help! --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:31, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Input on PA/GA consensus[edit]

Hey there Chongkian. I know you have been busy, but if you are free, we would like a third party input on the current situation that is happening between me and Lemongirl942. She has continuously disagreed with my say on the situation and has yet to seek any form of consensus. I advise that you help us mediate this and deescalate the tension between the both of us. -- MageLam (talk) 17:07, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Sometimes the best way to mediate a dispute is just to let both parties speak out their minds first. Then I'll see the overall idea from each side, summarize it, get the point, find the conclusion and take the middle point. I know it takes a bit of patience. But based on my experience, this is the best way. Oh ya, another way of settling this dispute is to bring this matter into any Wikipedia meetup. I'm currently organizing to make the Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup 1 in Johor Bahru, tentatively on 22 May 2016. I'm still looking for appropriate venue now. So if you and Lemongirl1942 are based in Singapore, I believe you both can easily join this meetup. In fact, there are two people from Wikipedia Singapore whom have confirmed on this. Once you are in the meetup, I can arrange a special session to discuss this matter and have other people a say about this, and probably make a consensus. What do you think? Chongkian (talk) 17:12, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I would prefer the usual Singapore Meetup event like you did last year rather than take the time to travel across the causeway. Given that I'm a college student, I'm not too sure if my schedule can really take an event like this. -- MageLam (talk) 17:19, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I think your best bet for now would be to solve the situation online. -- MageLam (talk) 17:24, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Uhm, ok I'll get back to u asap. It's sleeping time now (almost 2 am, lol). Will look through this again after the long weekend holiday. Gonna go to Malacca for some sightseeing, woohoo Chongkian (talk) 17:53, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Same for me, I'm going on a 2 day vacation to Johor in a few days time. XD -- MageLam (talk) 18:05, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Hey there! Is there a specific time tomorrow when all three of us can discuss about this? -- MageLam (talk) 16:26, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Not today, currently very very busy at office & home later (you know, after long holiday so many things to clean up at home). How about Friday evening? Chongkian (talk) 01:48, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Ok, sure thing. Just tell me what time you can drop by on Friday evening so I can arrange this with Lemongirl942 as well. -- MageLam (talk) 02:53, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I will be setting up the discussion page for the event in the meantime. -- MageLam (talk) 02:54, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately I'm gonna be busy this weekend. Could we do it in stages instead? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942 and Chongkian: Alright then, which day would you guys propose then? I rather conclude this quickly then have the situation be dragged further so I preferably won't do it in stages. -- MageLam (talk) 05:59, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Stages is OK in my opinion. It gives time to everyone to reply and think about while still progressing the discussion. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:10, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: Since you suggest stages, I would propose that we conduct talks in 3 phases. I wish to resolve the situation quickly as well as give all three of us the time to think as well. Let's try setting the dates for each one of them. -- MageLam (talk) 06:42, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@MageLam: What I mean is that people can continue to post and discuss. There doesn't need to be a fixed time when everyone has to be "live" (RFCs usually follow ad-hoc discussion patterns rather a particular live discussion time). Personally, I don't have a fixed schedule which makes it hard for me to specify a time and stick to it. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:52, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: I understand that you wish to perform this in an ad-hoc fashion as it is easier for all of us to digest. However, this would only drag the debate further without a form of organised discussion and I believe that we shouldn't continue to keep ourselves behind closed doors (like what is happening right now as we speak). You had previously rejected a dispute resolution when I offered you one and I do not wish for that to repeat itself should we conform to such ad-hoc talks. We might as well come out now and resolve this with a consensus quickly so that we can all move on and continue with this project. I have been holding on to my draft for the new introduction of the Bukit Merah article since two weeks ago and I've yet to implement it due to all the drama that is occurring right now. -- MageLam (talk) 09:24, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@MageLam: I don't understand. First, please point out where have I rejected dispute resolution (please use diffs to point out stuff. Empty accusations don't count). The fact that I am responding shows that I am still participating. Second, I have some personal restrictions due to which I cannot promise to be "live" at one particular time. What's the problem with responding as and when we have time? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:11, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: Here's the solid proof, no false allegations here this time. I asked you to point out what things we can agree on in order to make a final decision, but you refused to answer with your points and instead went on insisting that the current guideline set out by WikiProject Singapore is "better". I don't think we should continue on with this argument, it is really ruining our working relationship. Let us as contributors talk this out rather than finger point at each other. Wait for Chongkian to be free. In the meantime, let us look at the opinions that he currently has up on the page. I will put up my last points before setting up a new discussion section on the page. I do not wish to reply should your post be in regards to rambling. -- MageLam (talk) 11:41, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: If you do wish to reply as and when you wish, then so be it. Let's discuss this ad-hoc as you like it. But I do wish to repeat this once again, can you cooperate and see what points we can agree on first? Any rejections or opposing opinions can be brought up to Chongkian on Friday evening. -- MageLam (talk) 11:48, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@MageLam: [8] Straw man fallacy. Can you point out the statement where I have refused dispute resolution?
You asked me if I agreed with your proposal. I indicated I didn't see anything wrong with the current proposal.
Solving disputes in Wikipedia is not arriving at a midway point. It is based on consensus while respecting the policies and guidelines. Your proposal's point of difference (merging Planning Areas and areas into a single article) seemed contrary to multiple existing policies and guidelines, and hence I didn't agree with it. I'm not aware if you proposed anything else which differed from the current proposal. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 12:06, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian and Lemongirl942: Here is how the whole thing would be organized. -- MageLam (talk) 17:37, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Hey guys/girls relax, lol .. Take it easy. Wikipedia should be a fun place to be with. Our ultimate mission is to spread free knowledge as much as possible to the world, ok? ;) Ok, that looks nice MageLam, we can build up consensus in such format. Let me go through it one by one soon (not now, at office currently :P). Chongkian (talk) 00:17, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Just a gentle reminder. Do be ready with your first proposal on Friday evening or if possible, around the weekend. -- MageLam (talk) 10:23, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Take extra care in reading our points and objectives as well. -- MageLam (talk) 10:24, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942 and Chongkian: I would like you guys to state your account of what you understand and witnessed in regards to the current situation of the SG geo articles improvement project. If need be, write a disclaimer regarding your post. I believe this is necessary so that we three as well as other editors can understand the ongoing crisis. -- MageLam (talk) 12:20, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

You know all this talk of a "crisis" and "standoff" is actually amusing. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 12:21, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: You know for once, I'm glad to see the Lemongirl942 I know once again. I'm actually kinda tearing abit right now. Literally, no joke. :) -- MageLam (talk) 12:25, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942 and Chongkian: Here is a rundown of our current state of affairs. -- MageLam (talk) 12:47, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Believe me, debates are natural in Wikipedia. If you edit a bit more on the Wikipedia namespace, you will get into them most of the time. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 13:05, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Gimme some more time. I'm slightly busier this week for organizing Wikipedia Meetup Malaysia 1 (looking for place, confirming participants, promoting the events). Nevertheless, I will look again on all of the summarized point & come to a conclusion this weekend. If I miss out some points (from the whole discussion all these while), do let me know. Chongkian (talk) 13:15, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian and Lemongirl942: Alright, noted Chongkian. Remember folks, the last time you can submit your personal points and arguments is by midnight. So hurry! XD -- MageLam (talk) 13:24, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian and Lemongirl942: I know this might sound really hypocritical of me to repeat this given my recent actions, but please guys, let's stop editing articles regarding places in Singapore for the time being until we reach a final consensus. Unless of course, if the edit is a revert regarding vandalism or unsourced claims. -- MageLam (talk) 03:16, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

@MageLam: I was actually fine with that. But can we at least respect the existing guideline till this is solved? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:20, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: Let's just leave the articles as they are in the meantime. Its going to be a huge mess if we revert all of them. -- MageLam (talk) 03:26, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

@MageLam: The existing guideline is always followed till a new one is drafted. I think we can edit, as long as we respect the existing consensus. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:30, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: Given the current state of affairs right now and the fact that the articles are in a limbo, I don't think any sort of editing would be appropriate at this time. -- MageLam (talk) 03:33, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

@MageLam: Edits ensuring that the articles follow existing consensus is fine in my opinion. I don't think stopping edits is a solution. If some edits are inappropriate (like the CBD redirects you created), it can simply be discussed. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:38, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
@MageLam and Lemongirl942: Edits regarding subdivisions of Singapore may probably be halted now. But other edits (or writing new articles) for sure can continue, right? E.g. Bukit Batok by-election, etc ;) Chongkian (talk) 09:48, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. No problem regarding that. -- MageLam (talk) 09:56, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian: I suggest you get your second amendment ready soon, there is already quite some disagreement. Anyways, I'm not too sure if this current proposal would work out between the three of us. Should the situation turn more sour within the next 10 days, bringing this topic up to editors at the meetup would be the best course of action. We can probably decide the fate of the new guideline and this project from there. -- MageLam (talk) 09:39, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

I would definitely encourage the involvement of a fourth or fifth party. -- MageLam (talk) 04:18, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian and Lemongirl942: I'm going to politely repeat this for the last time for all members involved in the project. DO NOT edit articles regarding Singaporean places for the time being. It is essentially breaking our neutrality on this situation. We should be discussing at the moment and not edit warring on pages regarding Singaporean places. Until we reach some form of consensus or agreement, editing such articles for now should be strongly discouraged. -- MageLam (talk) 17:51, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry. I have to disagree here. I reverted an un-discussed redirect. This is always permissible. Anyone is free to revert a bold edit. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 17:54, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
No problem. I haven't touched anything about Singapore-related articles. I'm doing some stuffs about Taiwan-related articles and also preparing for the Malaysia Meetup 1. Chongkian (talk) 11:53, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

@Lemongirl942: I am not talking about your bold edit. I am talking about your overall involvement in constantly editing such articles despite the fact that a guideline is still not drawn up yet. -- MageLam (talk) 17:56, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

Sure there is room for improvement in every article no denying that. But given the fact that such articles are in a limbo, such editing is not encouraged. -- MageLam (talk) 17:58, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't mind you reverting an undiscussed redirect, but I prefer you leave the page as it is in its status quo state rather than add on content given there is no guideline. -- MageLam (talk) 18:05, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

I will ignore your actions for the time being. I really don't want to get involved in anymore of this. I drew myself into an editing pit hole that I never intended to draw myself into... -- MageLam (talk) 18:08, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian: Hey there! I think I'm shifting our direction on how we write the guidelines now. I will be implementing several elements from Huaiwei's "structure", the current MOS and other points from all other suggestions. I will be drafting out several points bit by bit on the main guideline page. Your help and feedback on this would be most appreciated. -- MageLam (talk) 10:18, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

@MageLam: Ok, got it. Chongkian (talk) 11:54, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian: Given the current sunset state of WikiProject Singapore (and specifically WikiProject Singaporean places), I believe that it would be good if we could spread the word about this issue to the outside community during the upcoming meetup. Bringing this up as a topic can help decide the future of these articles. I really can't stress that enough. -- MageLam (talk) 16:01, 15 May 2016 (UTC)

@MageLam: I'll try to bring this issue during the Malaysia Meetup, although I think this is more appropriate to be discussed during Singapore Meetup. Maybe I can make the next Singapore Meetup soon, then for sure you will be able to join this & further discuss it. Chongkian (talk) 04:52, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian: Hey there! I'm gonna require your feedback on the new guideline in its current state. Writing is still in process, nothing final here. Anyways, how was the meetup? -- MageLam (talk) 15:14, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

@MageLam: Sure, let me have a look slowly later. Oh, the meetup was not bad. We've discussed what needs to be done in the future or any upcoming event. And of course we agreed that we need to have more meetup first at the beginning to get enough people/editors to continue the Wikipedia Malaysia work continuously. Chongkian (talk) 00:34, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
@MageLam: Any particular space/section I can write down my comments? Or maybe here would suffice already? Chongkian (talk) 00:17, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian: You can provide them on the talk page. -- MageLam (talk) 01:05, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

@Chongkian: Hey there. This whole situation between me and Lemongirl942 is getting out of hand. I suggest its best you bring us to the discussion table and talk this out. Seriously, she has been reverting almost every edit I do, claiming it as "contested content". We really need to settle this as there is no real guideline for Singaporean places. There's literally no one to approach as the community here has died out. I can't continue to improve content if this situation drags on. I really wished this whole thing just stops. -- MageLam (talk) 09:05, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup 1[edit]

Sorry Chongkian, looks like I can't go to the first meetup in Johor because it's far away. But I would be looking forward for the next meetup around Klang Valley in the future.Khairul hazim 15:15, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I do realize that. But since we have some group already in Singapore, they wish to do it in Johor Bahru. I organized in Singapore already last year November. And now we wanna start to do it in Malaysia for the very first time starting from the nearest point to Singapore, which is Johor. Later after this, I'll try to make the next Malaysia Wikipedia Meetup event nearer towards Klang Valley, either Malacca or KL. Chongkian (talk) 15:19, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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Oh, thanks a lot for your response & pointing on that matter. I'll have a deeper look into that matter & rectify/improve it asap. Thanks a lot again. Chongkian (talk) 03:27, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Malaysia September 2016 Newsletter[edit]


Kuala Terengganu[edit]

Hi there.

I want to refer to your edits on Kuala Terengganu. Sultan Mizan Zainal Abidin and UMT are indeed located in Kuala Nerus district but Kuala Nerus is under the jurisdiction of Kuala Terengganu City Council. The wiki article of Kuala Terengganu itself covers both the city (with Kuala Nerus section under it) and the district. So it would make sense to put both items in the article since they are under the city council's jurisdiction.

What is your opinion on it? That's all. Thank you. Fikku fiq (talk) 14:56, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for noticing it. I've been trying to clean up & make it neat for anything related to Malaysia sub-division related articles (states, districts, mukims etc). Wikipedia is about what is real out there & the fact, not on people's common perception. If there is any misconception, then we need to straighten it. Many articles about districts in Malaysia is not really up to the standard, in which there are so many old facts & so many overlapping. That's why let's try to correct it one by one.
Within Terengganu, there are districts of Kuala Terengganu and Kuala Nerus, in which each of them is exclusive between each other and no overlapping, because these articles are more about geographic location, not government/political-related articles. After Kuala Nerus has been declared as a district in 2014, thus everything about Kuala Nerus written inside Kuala Terengganu has to be taken out to be put inside Kuala Nerus article, unless there is some commonly shared history between the two districts, then it can be put at the historical section of Kuala Terengganu article. Regarding Kuala Terengganu City Council, since it governs both Kuala Terengganu & Kuala Nerus, then that city council has to be mentioned twice (in Kuala Terengganu article & Kuala Nerus article), because the articles that we have currently are those 2 places. Of course once someone has created article Kuala Terengganu City Council, then such explanation can be written inside the article. Like for Petaling Jaya, there is the geographical Petaling Jaya article and Petaling Jaya City Council government article. Even when talking about Genting Highlands, it is about Bentong District of Pahang and Hulu Selangor District of Selangor because the highlands are in fact located in both states.
One similar case is this one. When talking about Perak's districts, when Bagan Datoh District has been declared a full district out from Hilir Perak District in January 2016, so anything related to or inside Bagan Datoh has to be taken out from Hilir Perak article and put everything inside Bagan Datoh article. Only the historical part of Bagan Datoh (story when it was still part of Hilir Perak) stays inside Hilir Perak article.
I know there are always some overlapping in Malaysia administrative divisions-related articles, but that's the thing we need to do slowly one by one in Wikipedia, as an article website. For less strict naming/border, that can be written inside Wikivoyage, for tourism-related purpose. But Wikipedia is all about factual data. We had a similar discussion before actually at Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup before.Chongkian (talk) 15:12, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Since you edit on Taiwan related article[edit]

Hey Chongkian. Since you edit on Taiwan related articles a lot (like seriously a lot Face-smile.svg) you may wish to take part in the RFCs which happen on related issues. There's one at Talk:Republic_of_China_general_election,_2016#Should_we_change_the_titles_of_those_election_articles_from_.22Republic_of_China_xxx_elections.22_to_.22Taiwanese_xxx_elections.22.3F. I believe there are others happening as well. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:18, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

Also, you can help take part in some of the RFCs for Malaysia articles as well. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:19, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Hehe, I'm very interested in Taiwan thing. Actually I do realize that there are soo many debate & discussion in Taiwan-related Wikipedia articles whether to use the 'Republic of China' or 'Taiwan' name. Seriously, like 99% of Taiwan-related edits are just about the edit war switching between those two names. I have to say, I prefer to stay away from those ambiguous & sensitive discussion, and prefer to focus more on creating more & more new articles about Taiwan stuffs (museums, politicians, tourist attractions, events etc) in which I don't need to fight just because of naming.
But yeah, nevertheless I had tried to involve myself in such discussion, and probably will again in the near future. But as a guideline in a very general sense, due to the never-ending-dispute of Taiwan political nature, it is always best to just use the name 'Taiwan' only for any non-political articles (e.g. places, region, district, etc). But for any political-related article (government entity, government position, embassy/representative offices), then only I shall use 'Republic of China'. And more more, everytime the article is about cross-strait relations (ROC & PRC), then I shall use the name 'Taiwan' and 'Mainland China' respectively. Again, these are not the official guideline made by the ROC or PRC government. But this is the (so far) most acceptable status quo kinda regulation. But then again, after DPP won the local, legislative & presidential election last year, the name 'Republic of China' for sure will start to fade away slowly from Wikipedia articles, huhu.
Anyhow, I'm planning to make Wikipedia Singapore meetup on 11 September 2016. Will you be available? We can always continue the discussion on the administrative divisions of Singapore later. We haven't really finished the discussion last time, have we? Chongkian (talk) 06:30, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
Oh this Sep month I'm super occupied on weekends haha. I will follow online though. For the administrative divisions, I actually have a friend who is doing research on this (with a lot of surveys) - like how do various divisions affect people's perceptions of areas. I guess I will wait for the results first. In the meantime, I let it be status quo.
For the Taiwan stuff, I started editing recently in this area and there is so much fighting over names. I have seen some editors who want to remove any mention of "China" from Taiwan articles. I actually stick to the convention you mentioned - Taiwan for general non-political articles and ROC for government entities/elections. Yes, with the DPP now in power, there seems to be more editors who are willing to push forward and rename everything to Taiwan. Personally speaking though, I'm not sure it is the correct thing (unless the country name changes), considering that we say "US Presidential elections" and not "American Presidential elections". This whole cross strait issue is a minefield. I have seen so much POV pushing including a recent attempt to remove the word "Chinese" from "Han Chinese" and only use "Han people" lol. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:59, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

The 1000 Challenge[edit]

Hello Chongkian, hope you're well. I wondered if you'd be interested in me setting something up for Taiwan at Wikipedia:WikiProject Taiwan/The 1000 Challenge based on Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic) and Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. The idea to reach 1000 article improvements and creations for Taiwan, encourage more editors to produce content and potentially stage some contests to increase output and interest. If interested and there's some editors you know who might be interested let them know and if there's a least a couple interested I'll start it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:27, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Dr. Blofeld, hope you are doing well too. Hehe, you know me. I would be more than happy even to create more than 1,000 articles about Taiwan, lol. Yup, I know around 3-4 people who always write/edit about Taiwan-related articles (Vycl1994, ASDFGH, Nlu, Lasersharp). Chongkian (talk) 00:27, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
Haha, well, let's see if one or two of those are interested and I'll create something. The main aim is improving quality and sourcing of existing articles, but missing articles also welcome if not short stubs!♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Hey, you said about 1000 not being enough for Taiwan, interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:15, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Lol, 10,000 is a bit crazy, unless I work as a full time Wikipedia writer ~ :P ... But well, why not. Let's aim for the sky for this and see how far we can go. There, I've singed up at the link u've listed there at the 10,000 Asian challenge. Chongkian (talk) 11:22, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
Haha, but it's not just Taiwan of course. The Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge is already a fifth the way there in a six months and that's just the small UK! Asia is a massive area and this could potentially attract a lot more editors chipping in on their countries! It's achievable, especially with contests! Can you try to get some of the other Taiwan editors contributing to it? This might make me do more work on Taiwan myself!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:32, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
I see, haha. Sure, no probs. I'll ask those who usually write about Taiwan-related articles. Now also I start to write many articles about Malaysia as well, might ask those people as well. Chongkian (talk) 11:39, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

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Asian 10,000 Challenge invite[edit]

Hi. The Wikipedia:WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge and Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like South East Asia, Japan/China or India etc, much like Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Asian content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon which has produced near 200 articles in just three days. If you would like to see this happening for Asia, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Asia, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant! Thank you. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:28, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

It's going to be good fun I hope, happy editing :-) One thing, can you try to ensure that everything you write is sourced? Quality is important on this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:04, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks a lot! Now I feel like my adrenaline is being pumped hard, lol. I'm a bit anxious/paranoid sometimes if suddenly there are people come and tell me that I've done many wrong things during this 'marathon' writing (e.g. not notable, wrong style, not important enough etc - things which discourage people from contributing, instead of encouragement & help). But yes, sources are very important. And as usual, the very minimum points that an article must have, I always try to include (name, native name, general description, history, location, accessibility/transportation, exhibition/content, coordinate location, photos from Wiki Commons (for places); name, name in native language, early life/education background, current job (which what makes him/her important to be written their articles), date of birth, time of appointment etc (for people/politicians)). Normally I will start a new article which has at least 2-3 website sources (non-blog) from the Internet. But feel free to let me know which articles I have written which need some improvement ;) Chongkian (talk) 08:26, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Hey, nothing wrong with the article choices and information. But it's more to prevent idiots coming along tagging unsourced sections that's all, we don't want those ugly tags on beautiful museums and parks now :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:25, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh, thanks so much for pointing all of my flaws. Now I've learned to add more detailed on the referencing (too add the access date, publisher etc), because all these while I've just automatically use the reFill function for the references, without really looking into what details are still missing. Now I try to be more detailed & pay attention to all of those small details. I will for sure add more details to avoid those small sections. Again, sometimes it is because of the very limited available sources & information in the Internet :( Chongkian (talk) 00:59, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

For google books you can simply paste in the url here and it draws them up automatically :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:43, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Perfect stubs now, keep up the great work!♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:01, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Invitation from Wikipedia Asian Month 2016[edit]

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Dead links[edit]

I noticed that you recently deleted several dead references from Longgang Mosque. Instead of deleting these valuable references, might I suggest that you instead add archive URLs from an archive service, such as web.archive.org? I have already restored these references and added the archive URLs. With kind regards, Phlar (talk) 00:38, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I haven't tried such method before. If it can preserve the old URL, by all means please do so (I heavily expanded that article before (Longgang Mosque), of course me myself wish to maintain all of the information as much as I can, hehe). Although we need to maintain the website to be legit/clean/up-to-date enough, we need to retain the information from the website cited earlier on. Thanks for that web archive thing, I'll look more detail on it ;) Chongkian (talk) 00:42, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Yes, when you add a reference to any article, you can go ahead and and the "archive-url" and "archive-date" to the reference. This way, the link will never become dead, because the archive URL will alreayd be there. (If web.archive.org hasn't already archived the page, you can submit it for immediate archiving.) Cheers, Phlar (talk) 16:39, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Malaysia November 2016 Newsletter[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia Asian Month![edit]

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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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Invitation to the Wikipedia Selangor Meetup 1[edit]

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The 3rd Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup had now arrived on Selangor! Pack your bags and your laptop, and meet some fellow Malaysia Wikipedians in the meetup!

This meetup was initiated by Chongkian and the invitation was written and sent by NgYShung. For more information, see the meetup page. If there is any enquires, feel free to discuss at the talk page or at the Facebook event page. (Delivered: 07:27, 24 November 2016 (UTC))

Roll call of WikiProject Malaysia for 2017[edit]

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Hello there Chongkian! The biennial/annual roll call of WikiProject Malaysia have been started! The roll call was intended for maintaining a healthy list of active members in the WP:MY members section. You may follow the instructions to stay in the WikiProject, or leave the WikiProject. Make sure you've make the right choice! After about 1 January 2017, you will be moved to the inactive members list. The link is at here. On behalf of WikiProject Malaysia, NgYShung huh? (Delivered at: 11:19, 25 November 2016 (UTC), one run)

Season's Greetings![edit]

Request for help with Brian Hioe article[edit]

Hi Chongkian, I notice you've been editing on Sunflower Student Movement, and am wondering if you're able to help. A couple of days ago, I started an article on Brian Hioe, founding editor of New Bloom Magazine, however his page has already been nominated for WP:AfD. I have had trouble locating references in English. I am requesting help from any editors I can think of, who might have knowledge in this area, and possibly also knowledge of Chinese language (which I am unable to read or speak) sources. (BTW, assuming you think he is notable enough to justify a page of course). Cheers MatthewTStone (talk) 07:49, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Hi MatthewTStone! Yeah, I understand the frustrating feeling once your article got nominated for deletion due to lack of content. Even I had 13 articles deleted so far due to insufficient references and notability (in which sometimes it is really subjective to each people/nationality/country size). I'll try to see here on what I can do to help out ;) Chongkian (talk) 07:52, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I am just finding out, as this is the second time WP:AfD has happened to me this week...! And I agree it is quite subjective. From what I can tell, Hioe is a young guy and new in the media landscape, but he and New Bloom are quite important, as part of a changing political scene. But for people outside Taiwan, it is hard to appreciate why. I am wondering whether New Bloom should have its own page, or should it be part of his article. MatthewTStone (talk) 19:14, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
PS the article has now been moved into WP:Draftspace at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Brian_Hioe so that leaves a bit of breathing space. MatthewTStone (talk) 22:27, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
I've tried to search from Chinese sources, and the reason is actually correct. It's not that the person doesn't have any source, but instead most of the source is never about the person themselves, but the works of that person. Even when I try to search the English and Chinese name, it gives two different person picture (one is male and the other is female respectively). Have you confirm that the English name and the Chinese name is correct? Thanks. Chongkian (talk) 00:08, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
Good question. I took the Chinese name from his editorial page at New Bloom <https://newbloommag.net/author/brian-hioe/>. I assumed this would be correct? MatthewTStone (talk) 02:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 17#Hacking incident that arose from this plane shootdown incident[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Malaysia Airlines Flight 17#Hacking incident that arose from this plane shootdown incident. Mamasanju (talk) 04:41, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Malaysia February 2017 Newsletter[edit]

Help for including Sunway to WikiProject Malaysia's scope[edit]

Hi there,

I'm currently working in Sunway Berhad (Malaysia) and we're currently working on getting information out about our company and affiliated entities in a fair and balanced manner. As such, we feel that it's important that we can cooperate with the community that watches over Malaysian wiki pages. On that token, I'm in doubt as to how I can request for our Wikipedia pages to be within the scope of WikiProject Malaysia, as they is currently not listed under the WikiProject (other than one of our subsidiaries 'Sunway City Ipoh').

Could you help guide me on this? Thanks! --Sesd17 (talk) 07:09, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sesd17,

Thanks for your interest in the efforts of integrating private business sectors (Sunway Bhd.) with WikiProject Malaysia. Do you have any email where I can contact you to discuss this further?

Regards. Chongkian (talk) 17:35, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Fire Services Museum, Macau[edit]

I have moved the page Fire Services Museum, as this is a generic name not unique to this Museum, e.g.Fire Services Museum of Victoria. Please add to the page Fire museum if you are aware of any other such museums in China or elsewhere.Chemical Engineer (talk) 16:21, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for that correction. Yeah, that should be the way it is ;) Chongkian (talk) 01:10, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to the Wikipedia Selangor Meetup 2[edit]

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The 4th Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup will be held for the second time on Selangor, and you are invited!

→ To collaborate between Wikipedia Malaysia User Group and Sunway Group, a large corporation in Malaysia.
→ To create Wikipedia (and other Wikimedia projects)'s articles and edit/improve articles on the spot.

This meetup was initiated by Chongkian and the invitation was written and sent by NgYShung. For more information and updates, see the meetup page. If there is any enquires, feel free to discuss at the talk page. If you wish to opt-out of any future Malaysia meetup invitation, please add your name here. (Delivered: 11:46, 22 February 2017 (UTC))

Do you invite Bahasa Melayu Wikipedia users for your meetup?[edit]

Just curiosity, do you invite users at Bahasa Melayu Wikipedia every time you held a meetup? Even though I'm not active in Malay Wikipedia (I was considering to be active so I can improve my Malay since mine is not as good :p), I may go create/expand the meetup page (ms:Wikipedia:Perjumpaan) if I got spare time to do so. You can notify the bureaucrat Yosri for assist or help. Cheers! NgYShung huh? 08:16, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Initially we even put at the top of the main page ('banner' area?) of ms.wikipedia.org for the very first Wikipedia Malaysia meetup. But it seems like it gives very little effect. Besides, there is no dedicated meetup page for ms.wikipedia.org. Maybe we can create one and can always link both the en & ms page for any Wikipedia Malaysia meetup in the future.Chongkian (talk) 08:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to the Wikipedia Johor Meetup 2[edit]

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The 5th Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup will be held for the second time in Johor. Since it is at holiday, check it out if you have time!

This meetup was initiated by Chongkian and the invitation was written and sent by NgYShung. For more information and updates, see the meetup page. If there is any enquirers, feel free to discuss at the talk page. If you wish to opt-out of any future Malaysia meetup invitation, please add your name here. (Delivered: 03:54, 17 March 2017 (UTC))

Discussion invite[edit]

Hello. I invite you to join a centralized discussion about naming issues related to China and Taiwan. Szqecs (talk) 04:45, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Oh, thanks! After creating almost 1,000 Taiwan-related article, this is my really great concern! :D Chongkian (talk) 04:50, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

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Invitation to the Wikipedia Kuala Lumpur Meetup 2[edit]

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The 5th Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup will be held for the second time on Kuala Lumpur!


→ To talk about the past Wikimedia Conference 2017 in Germany, Creative Commons, Malay Wikipedia and the upcoming Wikipedia East, Southeast Asia & Pacific Conference 2018 in Indonesia.
→ Forming a Wikipedia Malaysia User Group, coordinating East Malaysia-related affairs and training newcomer Wikipedia editors.
→ And a lot more!

This meetup was initiated by Chongkian and the invitation was written and sent by QianCheng. For more information and updates, see the meetup page. If there is any enquires, feel free to discuss at the talk page. If you wish to opt-out of any future Malaysia meetup invitation, please remove your name here. (Delivered: 06:01, 14 April 2017 (UTC))

Please support the Sustainability Initiative![edit]

Please support the Sustainability Initiative!

Hi, Chongkian! Please allow me to follow up on a project that was discussed at the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin a couple of weeks ago:

I am writing you to ask for your support for the Sustainability Initiative, which aims at reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement. Over the past two years, more than 250 Wikipedians from all over the world have come together to push the Wikimedia movement towards greater sustainability.

The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has recently passed a resolution stating that the Foundation is committed to seeking ways to reduce the impact of its activities on the environment. Now, we are working with the Wikimedia Foundation staff to have all Wikimedia servers run on renewable energy by 2019.

In order to demonstrate that this is an issue that the community really cares about, I would like to ask you to sign the project page as well. Thank you! --Gnom (talk) 16:21, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Tamsui Art Gallery[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Tamsui Art Gallery, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Meetup 2 at Kuala Lumpur[edit]

I'm here. So do I need to wait inside or wait at outside until you guys come in? SNN95 (talk) 09:37, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

AfD[edit]

An editor nominated an article of yours for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Luerhmen History and Culture Museum. SL93 (talk) 16:53, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I've tried to defend by my all means at the talk page there, lol. Chongkian (talk) 01:16, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
FYI – Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Museum of Beigang Story Altamel (talk) 05:46, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Need Help - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=City_Hall,_Penang&action=history[edit]

Someone took out a whole chunk of history that I put in. Please advise. Thank you.

While I have nothing against people expanding an article (in which why I did not take out your writing portion), from my point of view, this article is about the building itself (not the government entity), thus we should focus only on that particular building, not any building used as the predecessor to house the central government of Penang. If this article is about Penang State Government, then we can talk on the building that houses the government, and even former buildings which housed it. Also, the historical section that you've written is far too long compared to other section of the article. If history section were to be made long, then the (for example) architecture, budget/finance, maintenance, structural design, tourism-related facilities, any event/incident to/at the building etc must be made 'equally' long as well. Your writing has too many citation/quotes, in which those parts can be written in Wikiquote, not in Wikipedia. Also your writing has very few links to other Wikipedia article, in which you might want to add that. Chongkian (talk) 00:33, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

As written it is confusing since before 1st January 1957 this building was called Town Hall which also refers to another earlier building. Furthermore the article is called City Hall rather than City Hall Building. But if no one is concerned about the confusion brought about by grammar, then let it be. jefferyseow (talk)

Malacca/Melaka[edit]

It looks like you are busy trying to make wholesale changes to wikipedia articles on the use of the name. Please note that it is not the policy of Wikipedia to change name in its articles when there is an official name change per WP:MODERNPLACENAME. Wikipedia is not a government publication. It changes only when that official name has become the standard form in English usage. Hzh (talk) 10:08, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

There has been several name changes in Malaysia lately which was made officially (by the royal/state/local government), such as Kulai from previously Kulaijaya, Iskandar Puteri from previously Nusajaya. They were all announced by the government, and the name change took immediate effect, in which all (for example) road sign, gov website/publications use that new name. Of course redirect will always be maintained to the old name to give people the 'transition' period to familiarize the new name. But once the name has been changed, it is a new name. It's not that I want to 'spam' around in Wikipedia, no. Even previously, I had made many articles about Malacca/Melaka in which I used the word 'Malacca', but after the name change announcement, then I've changed all of the articles to 'Melaka' (indeed it is a lot of works to be done). For the case of Malacca/Melaka, is there any official definition on when that "name has become the standard form in English usage" ? Thanks. Chongkian (talk) 00:19, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
What is done with other instances is irrelevant, i.e. if other people make mistakes in their edits, you don't follow them. It can also be that other instances are not directly relevant, since Malacca is common usage (and widely used in other geographical names or names of other entities), whereas your other examples are not, therefore any change is of little relevance to the casual readers. We follow Wikipedia guidelines, not other people people's ignorance of them. I have already given you the link that suggests what you can check to indicate is the common usage. Read it. An example is Burma which was changed to Myanmar, although many English sources still use Burma, Myanmar is now commonly used enough in various publications, for example [9]. In the case of Malacca/Melaka, Melaka is already being used in some English sources, therefore it is not that urgent an issue, although you would still need to show that it is much more common that it is now to change the article name of Malacca. These things usually take a few years to take effect, so wait a while and see. Hzh (talk) 09:12, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
A further thing to note that is that if you want to change the title of a page, you should also indicate in the lead what the older name is (usually in the first sentence), this is to avoid confusion to readers who are unaware of any name change. See again Myanmar, and also WP:ALTNAME. Hzh (talk) 09:26, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

Real Life Barnstar.jpg The Real Life Barnstar
For organizing meetups in Malaysia. Hope you can spread Wikipedia's significance throughout Malaysia! Other than that, thanks for actively contribute to Wikipedia! :) QianCheng虔诚 04:57, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:1941 establishments in Malaya[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Universities in Melaka[edit]

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