User talk:Ckretur

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Will Patton[edit]

Please desist from removing the image and caption from this page. There is absolutely no valid reason to be doing so. As for the name, please provide a reliable source to support the change to the name or desist in changing it. This is twice you have done this and have given no valid reason for doing so or providing a source. Next time, it will be treated as vandalism. Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

I am Mr. Will Patton's manager and have been for 18 years and as such, I am a reliable source when it comes to Mr. Patton and his career. You can verify this at I was acting on behalf of Mr. Patton by removing the image and caption from the website at his request. Also he wanted his middle name corrected as it is not "Curtis". Mr. Patton's correct and legal middle name is Rankin. I would ask that you respect his wishes and remove the image and correct his middle name as soon as possible. Please acknowledge receipt of this post.

Sincerely, Ckretur (talk) 01:38, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

We have no proof of you being his manager. If he has comments to make about the article, that needs to be done through the Wikimedia Foundation and not on your talk page. Please provide a source for what you state is his middle name, otherwise it will remain as it is listed. Wildhartlivie (talk) 02:44, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

You may contact the Screen Actors Guild (323)954-1600 Paradigm (310)288-8000 or IMDBpro at for proof that I am indeed Mr. Patton's manager at Grand View Management. Mr Patton's middle name of Rankin is also listed as his birth name (William Rankin Patton) at imdb and imdbpro. Ckretur (talk) 20:09, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

It is not my responsibility to contact the Screen Actors Guild or pay to join imdbpro to get such information. As I said, please have Mr. Patton contact Wikimedia Foundation to submit proper proof. Beyond that, this is an encyclopedia article, it is not Mr. Patton's personal biography. He has no say over the picture being used, unless he would like to contribute an image that can be used here. Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:07, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

You can go to for FREE and view both Mr Patton's full name under "Trivia" and my information (as well as his lawyer and agent) under "contact". I would think that it would be your desire as well as your responsibility to have accurate information for your encyclopedia article. I can provide you with other images if you agree to remove the current image that is being used. Ckretur (talk)

IMDB sections such as you note are not considered reliable sources, anyone can submit a change to those sections and they aren't checked. As I said, please have Mr. Patton contact Wikimedia Foundation to submit proper proof. Wikipedia is interested in the correct information, but anyone can (and has) come on here purporting to represent someone else and try to get information changed. Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:11, 10 December 2009 (UTC)