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Requested move[edit]

Teledyne Brown Engineering
Founded 1953
Headquarters United States Huntsville, Alabama, USA[1]
Key people
Rex Geveden, President
Parent Teledyne Technologies

Teledyne Brown Engineering, or TBE, formerly Brown Engineering (BECO), is a Huntsville, Alabama-based subsidiary of Teledyne Technologies. Formed in 1953, BECO was acquired by Teledyne, Inc., in 1966. The successor, Teledyne Technologies, evolved in 1999. TBE provides software engineering, technology services, and manufacturing for many clients, including the U.S. Department of Defense and NASA (including support for the International Space Station).

TBE includes the wholly-owned subsidiary Teledyne Brown CollaborX, Inc. (aka TBC)


TBE website; retrieved Nov. 7, 2009

  1. ^ About Us; TBE website; retrieved April 25, 2007

I have several times requested that the page for Teledyne Brown Engineering be removed from a Redirect to Teledyne and reestablished as it was originally. My request resulted in a new page as cited in the subset. Justification: Teledyne Brown Engineering has a very valid history and certainly belongs in the Wikipedia encuclopedia.

Mr. Watson, I am not certain why you posted this information on my talk page. Do you need help with your article? Was this information intended for the requested moves page? It seems from your description that the Teledyne article is where your information about Teledyne Brown Engineering belongs. Have you attempted to put your History information on the Teledyne page? If there is something you need my help with, please let me know. Cliff (talk) 17:21, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

request to publish[edit]

Please publish my page Call me by your name that I requested to be moved on July 20th and that you removed.

Also, how do I make it clear when I want my newly created page to be published in the public domain?

Hypatia Fellini Hypatia Fellini (talk) 15:18, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

When your article is ready, it must be submitted to Articles for Creation. You can do so by adding {{subst:AFC submission/submit}} to the top of the article. Any problems, let me know. Cliff (talk) 02:22, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

photo publishing[edit]

Hello again. Another question: if my article Call me by your name is approved, I would like to add a photo of the book cover eventually. How do I go about getting approval for publishing such a photo? Would I need to show a letter from the publisher or the writer himself? What do I need? thanks. Hypatia Fellini (talk) 23:32, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm not too sure about using images, this is nothing I've done before. Cover art is usually copyrighted. I think Wikipedia does not accept licenses for use. Something is either copyright-free, and we can use it, or there's a copyright and we can't. There are some exceptions for fair use listed at that link, but I'm not sure how to interpret them. Look at "Acceptable use"/"Images"/1, it seems to say that cover art is free, but "Unacceptable use"/"Images"/9 seems to indicate that cover art usage is only acceptable if that art itself, not the album or book is the subject of the article. I would post your question on that page's discussion page, or read the discussion there first to see if that question has already been answered. Good luck! Cliff (talk) 02:16, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I removed your symbolic additions. They did not accurately describe your cited, English language addition. Cliff (talk) 21:52, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[edit]

They did. Put it back. Or put back what you think it should be. Having an article about the Archimedean axiom without stating the axiom in mathematical terms is totally unacceptable.Mollwollfumble (talk) 10:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Written English is "mathematical terms". Symbolic math is not necessarily preferred, nor more correct. In fact, symbolic math can be used differently in different regions. It's not necessary. Also, this discussion should take place at the AP page. Cliff (talk) 14:25, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Thinking more clearly now. There are three main quite different ways that the Archimedean axiom is normally stated. And I've yet to see any article that refers to more than one of the three, although some articles, such as "Completeness of Ordered Fields" by James Forsythe Hall, give many synonyms for one or the other. That means that I can't be sure if all three are in fact equivalent. All three need to be in the AP Wikipedia article. I'll give it a bit more thought then probably make some very major changes to AP. Do not undo those changes. Overall, it's a darn shame that Wikipedia "Archimedean Axiom" redirects to "Archimedean Principle". "Archimedean Axiom" is a better title. Perhaps I need to break the link, though I'd prefer not to. What do you think?Mollwollfumble (talk) 22:51, 11 August 2011 (UTC)


The discusion on the merge of Super-logarithm and Super-root to Tetration has been forwarded to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Merge of Super-logarithm and Super-root to Tetration and your name has been listed as part of the discusion

Feel free to join in with the discusion. Robo37 (talk) 20:11, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Usurp request.[edit]

I am attempting to usurp the username Cliff at Cliff (talk) 19:02, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

RSCS edit[edit]

I'm new here, and it would help me if you would identify yourself and tell me why you made your recent edit of my RSCS article. I don't see anything supporting your change in "Wikipedia, The Missing Manual." George.McQuilken (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:56, 27 September 2011 (UTC).

Hi George, my name is Cliff. If you recall, I am the person who removed your move request and suggested that you go through WP:AFC. I normally watch the articles for which I have removed requests. The reason I reverted your edit is because that template clearly states that it should be removed after a review, and it should be removed by someone other than the article's creator, (that's you). A good way to get a review of your article is to place a request for feedback. The normal process for disagreement on edits is just like what we're doing now. Someone edits boldly. If another disagrees with the edit, they will revert. Then discussion happens, usually on the talk page of the article. I'm open to more discussion, though it would be better to discuss your article at its discussion page. Start a new section there if you would like to continue talking. Cliff (talk) 01:49, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mina Giannopoulou[edit]

Hello. I have put everywhere I can references about this artist (official pages of the artist, webzines,magazines, official page of the band she is into, blog reviews). Can you please help me and make it more reliable because it is denied? If it isn't much for you indicate me where is wrong. I don't know what else to do. I have put as much as I can reliable references. Thank you for any help. AngelCryGr (talk) 05:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

The reason your article was declined is given on this old version of your article. The references you are using are not references that Wikipedia usually accepts. Read the link about verifiable sources on that old version. You should remove all references from youtube, MySpace, and other places that are not verifiable. You should use sources like magazines (rolling stone, etc...), newspapers (new York times,...etc), and other sources that have to use verifiable information. Please read the information about what verifiable sources are. Cliff (talk) 12:25, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

RM bot; Kudu bot[edit]

I'm glad I can help with RM bot. Thanks for the heads up on the Kudu bot discussion - I'll comment on the Kudubot 4 page. Hard Boiled Eggs [talk] 03:25, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Let me explain what I mean by explain ...[edit]

When I asked for an explanation of your action I was hoping to see something like

your article could not be moved because ....

instead of a repeat of what you had said before and a suggestion for an inappropriate action on my part. I am relatively new here and still trying to understand the ropes. I was expressing a genuine request for understanding and your response was not helpful.Bill Cherowitzo (talk) 19:04, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

My apologies. I am not denying your request. I am simply trying to tell you that Requested moves is not the place to request that an article you created be placed in Wikipedia. Requested moves is where people request that current articles get moved to different names. There has been a lot of confusion about this lately, and I'm trying to get it cleared up as we speak. The correct method for submitting your new article is to put {{subst:AFC submission/submit}} on the top of your article (not the discussion page). This will let the editors at Articles for Creation know that you think your article is ready to be included in Wikipedia. After a review, they will include it, or suggest improvements before it gets included. Sorry for this confusion. If there's anything else I can do to help, or if you're still confused about any processes in the future, I'm very willing to help. Just ask. Cliff (talk) 22:12, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Taking another look, I see that there are more issues. The article already exists, but you did a major overhaul in your sandbox. I see what's going on. People don't usually like sandbox work because then the edit history is attached to your subpage rather than to the article in question. If you want, you can attempt a merge of your page to the old page. I suggest doing it piecemeal rather than all at once. If anybody has any objections to certain parts of your overhaul it's better that they revert those specific things rather than your entire work. Some people have been known to simply copy their entire sandbox's contents and replace the old page with the new one, but I don't suggest that because of the issues I already mentioned. People tend to freak out when they see a MAJOR edit happening in one fell swoop. I think it's mostly because they don't want to read the whole article in a sitting to check your work. They'd rather check one piece at a time. Good luck. Cliff (talk) 22:22, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
So you responded before I got a chance to say -
But there is the rub. It is not a new article, just a reorganization with additions of an old article. It was supposed to be moved to the old article Projective plane name, something which I can not do myself. The editors at wp:AFC have rightly pointed out that the old article exists, so they won't touch it. Can you make a suggestion as to what I should now do? Bill Cherowitzo (talk) 22:39, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I thought that I read that what you are suggesting was discouraged and that the move was the preferred method. I am willing to go either way, but the nature of my edits makes the piecemeal approach very difficult (which is why I did it in my sandbox in the first place). Bill Cherowitzo (talk) 22:39, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
A move also is not the way to go because your sandbox's history will replace the original article's history, something we don't want to lose. Anthony Appleyard said something about a history merge, I would ask him what he meant and if that's something he'd help you with. I think an admin needs to do that I've got no idea. Give him a link to this discussion if you want; to help clarify the situation. Cliff (talk) 03:02, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Thanks[edit]

By the way, the redirect from User:Cliff to Cliff is funny the first time, but gets annoying quite quickly. Would you consider removing the redirect? Cheers, Jowa fan (talk) 23:28, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

yeah, I could use a change and have been annoyed by that a bit myself. Cliff (talk) 03:45, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Requested move of Côte d'Ivoire[edit]

There is currently a discussion on moving the article Côte d'Ivoire to Ivory Coast. You are being notified since you participated in a previous discussion on this topic. Please join the discussion here if you are interested. TDL (talk) 02:26, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Usurp request.[edit]

I am attempting to usurp the username Cliff at Cliff (talk) 06:10, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. Cheers! bd2412 T 00:48, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Mathematics articles that suck.[edit]

Feel free to add any mathematics article that you feel sucks. If you give reasons why you think that the article sucks, I will more readily be able to fix it. I will add to this list occasionally. Put your article on a new line and precede it with an asterisk and a space.


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