User talk:Cliftonian/Archive 3

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AFC Wimbledon

Seeing that you are a regular and, more importantly, a great contributor to Dons related articles, I have question concerning the club. I read last April on BBC, that Dons are about to go full time ahead of current season, though I can't find any info confirming that they actually did so, but wiki article states that they are professional club already. Maybe you can shed some light on this issue? Utinsh (talk) 20:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for such a quick response. It probably should be mentioned in the body of article, but I am not sure that it would be appropriate to source such an important turning point in clubs history to a article that mentions process of going full time so vaguely, and without mentioning qualitative changes this process demands from club as well. What do you reckon? Utinsh (talk) 21:27, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Citation with a link to your email? :) Nah, don't bother, I'll let it drop until AFCW will get a promotion and BBC will provide us a nice and shiny ref. Thanks for clearing this up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Utinsh (talkcontribs) 21:40, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Eduard Streltsov

In what ways is this link not reliable? Please motivate. Arbero (talk) 23:49, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I see, well, let me try and find a better source then. Arbero (talk) 00:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I appreciate it a lot. =) Arbero (talk) 00:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Hey, it's me again. I found a new link from the Russian Wikipedia, it says that he made six appearances, scoring three goals in the 1967–68 Soviet Cup season. How reliable do you think this source is? Should I add it? Arbero (talk) 00:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Maybe we can find some more references together. What do you say? Arbero (talk) 00:37, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
No, I can't read Russian, but there is always Google Translate, even though it's not the best language tool when it comes to some poor grammar and words sometimes. But you found those statistics, that's great! Is there anything else this article need or do you think it's FA material? Arbero (talk) 00:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
This has been an lovely chat, but it's bedtime for me now. I can you find more references tomorrow. Well, I have to go for now. See ya, it has been a pleasure to talk to you. Have a good day. Arbero (talk) 01:01, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Found any cup stats yet? Arbero (talk) 18:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Having problems finding them? Arbero (talk) 18:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay, do you want to work on other articles or just this one for the moment? Arbero (talk) 19:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

How's the nomination going? Arbero (talk) 22:07, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Close to an FA? Arbero (talk) 22:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, can you help me find the rest? Arbero (talk) 12:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

You don't happen to know someone who has those those statistics books you mentioned earlier? Arbero (talk) 17:27, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

New York Cosmos

Sure, what do you need help with? Arbero (talk) 20:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Can you wait for some minutes? I'm currently doing some work on the Nani article. Arbero (talk) 21:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Do the stats I have added match? Arbero (talk) 23:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Found any on play-offs yet? Arbero (talk) 01:52, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Nice, but how come there are no notes for Siegfried Stritzl, John Kerr, Keith Eddy, Ramón Mifflin, and Giuseppe Wilson? Arbero (talk) 16:33, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't really notice it. Arbero (talk) 16:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
What article are you working on now? Arbero (talk) 16:43, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Can I pick one? Arbero (talk) 17:13, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Dimitar Berbatov if you are interested. Been working on this article for a while. Would love to get a GA on this. Arbero (talk) 17:24, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
After you have promoted the New York Cosmos articles and Eduard Streltsov to FA perhaps? Arbero (talk) 17:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Alright, just one thing, what about the Early career, CSKA Sofia and Leverkusen sections? I think we could expand on those parts since it's not as well-written as the Tottenham and United sections. Arbero (talk) 17:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Will try to take a look at the players' list at some stage. Might take a while though, as I prefer to concentrate on older FLCs first. —WFC— 23:30, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

What about the Cosmos articles? Arbero (talk) 22:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


I appreciate the info from the Cosmos' website. I've been looking for just such a write-up myself. I've re-sent my request for clarification to the Cosmos, I would like to have a statement from them to back myself up with. unak1978 10:53, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not certain what more I can do. The request for comment feature didn't help bc too few editors actually monitor it, so at this point the only way forward that I can see is forcing an administrator to rule on this issue by nominating the article for deletion. If they rule against me then I will be able to accept the decision of an impartial party. What do you think? unak1978 21:24, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
We're agreed then. I'm going to do a bit more research and then post the nomination. I can't sit by and let editors pass opinions off as fact. unak1978 21:29, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

The Contribution Team cordially invites you to Imperial College London

All Hail The Muffin Nor does it taste nice... 15:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Streltsov copy-edit

I've completed a copy-edit and left more comments at the FAC. Feel free to revert anything I've messed up or changed the meaning of. You may still need a copy-editing expert to have a look as there may be things I've missed which people aren't happy with. --Sarastro1 (talk) 14:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Dimitar Berbatov

Hey, didn't you say you were going to do the Dimitar Berbatov article or something a couple of weeks ago? Arbero (talk) 00:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Alright, the article is great. I will try and find some information about his style of play. Arbero (talk) 11:19, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

By the way, you make my English look bad. ;) Arbero (talk) 11:24, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
I added some on his style of play. What do you think about this reference? Arbero (talk) 12:03, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Glad to hear that. Arbero (talk) 12:45, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Ready for GA? 13:15, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Berbatobv edits

I feel your edits have taken so much information out of his Manchester United section and just whittled it down to a mere few facts. Sectioning it season by season will give the article a better look, also your spacing on the references isn't done correctly. Healy6991 (talk) 14:17, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

I agree with what you're saying, I feel the article is close to becoming GA standard, but have a look at some articles such as Lionel Messi or Fernando Torres and you'll find articles which are paragraphed better season by season and with vital information. Healy6991 (talk) 14:32, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Because this is an English article and there is no accent above the letter E in our language. Healy6991 (talk) 14:34, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
Then why don't you add more information to the Leverkusen section, there is literally no information on his first two years at United and his Tottenham tenure has little information despite him netting more than 40 goals for them. Healy6991 (talk)
Fair enough, no worries I was a bit rude too. I do feel it is a good article, I won't undo edits you have put into it but I'll try to add some things that I feel are missed out. Healy6991 (talk) 14:47, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Respond to Paul Carden

No problem mate. Skyblueshaun 20:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of New York Cosmos (2010) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article New York Cosmos (2010) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New York Cosmos (2010) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. unak1978 09:36, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: "Sweden was defeated"

Thanks for the explanation, I get it. I never really worked with British English until I start to edit here. Probably my biggest run-in with a word was "tyre".--NortyNort (Holla) 21:46, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

New York Cosmos

I've given it a GA review please see the review page for my comments. KnowIG (talk) 23:14, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

10 minor things and a little copyright thing with the badges to do. Then it will be promoted Ok. KnowIG (talk) 18:19, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Boroughs

No problem. As a lifelong resident of the area, I try to help out where I can. Though I must admit puzzlement at your dislike of the use of "New York City", as that is very commonly used, since the state is also New York. oknazevad (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Cecil Rhodes article

--Vandalism doesn't impress anybody. It's not big and it's not clever. Please don't waste your and everybody else's time. – Cliftonianthe orangey bit 18:04, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

I am sorry but I am confused. I thought that what I was doing was removing vandalism. There were numerous instances in the Cecil Rhodes article in which someone had inserted the words criminal, and another word that I can't recall now, as adjectives. The basic idea was he thought Cecil Rhodes was a criminal and he wanted to make sure everyone else knew.

I don't know anything about Cecil Rhodes other than what I read in the article. But it was obvious that someone had vandalized it. Perhaps I went about correcting this in the wrong way; I am new to doing any kind of editing on Wikipedia.

Again, I'm sorry if I went about this the wrong way, but I insist that I was not perpetrating vandalism.Odilon1949 (talk) 21:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Robin Friday

I'll take a look when I get the chance, there's a couple of peer reviews I've promised to do first though. I'm familiar with some of his career/antics, and I'm told the book on him is well worth reading. One thing that sticks out as a potential FAC stumbling block is that it inevitably draws a significant proportion of its references from the same source. Difficult to avoid when there's one and only one book on a subject. Oldelpaso (talk) 16:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I had another read through, and generally speaking I see no obvious areas for concern. There's the odd over-long sentence. Probably also an overuse of semicolons, something I perhaps only noticed because I do it myself. There's the question of whether those who have written about him may have exaggerated or romanticised, but as you've taken care to attribute statements of opinion there's not a lot more you can do. I'd try pinging a couple of FAC regulars to get their opinions on the one source thing. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:52, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I'd be happy with the issue you raised. But I think the paragraphs need denser referencing for FAC. I'd like to see a reference for every significant claim. --Dweller (talk) 23:14, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Robin Friday

I've reviewed this article here for GA. I've placed it on hold for some fairly minor things and look forward to passing it very soon. And I'd just like to say how much I enjoyed reading it. What a character! --Sarastro1 (talk) 22:36, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Passed now, well done. --Sarastro1 (talk) 23:33, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Main page appearance

Hello! This is a note to let the main editors of this article know that it will be appearing as the main page featured article on June 10, 2011. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 10, 2011. If you think it is necessary to change the main date, you can request it with the featured article directors Raul654 (talk · contribs) or his delegate Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), or at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. If the previous blurb needs tweaking, you might change it—following the instructions of the suggested formatting. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :D Thanks! ۞ Tbhotch & (ↄ), Problems with my English? 23:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Now all we need is to get some DYK hook of Eric Morecambe to go on the main page on the same day....Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:59, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

LTFC on main page

You deserve it matey, great job! Haruman215 (talk) 08:31, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh, and cheers for doing the new kit - I'm slightly computer illiterate at times and just could not work out how to change it without ruining everything! Haruman215 (talk) 08:36, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Congrats Cliftonian, and thanks for all your hard work on the LTFC articles. A little birdie told me the Lutonian media have taken note of this development... Skomorokh 12:34, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Message boards

It does now! Haruman215 (talk) 10:37, 10 June 2011 (UTC)