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Happy New Year Cloudz679![edit]

10:51:41, 2 January 2015 review of submission by Azierer[edit]


Dear Reviewer, I'm not sure why my submission was rejected ? There are many less notable and less important person on Wikipedia. like e.g. Hannes Ametsreiter Mr. Rudi Jagersbacher is notable : this is documented by the two major awards he received by the Austrian State for his contribution of the commerce and industry as well as youth training and charity. And not only the State of Austria award Mr. Jagersbacher also the Forbes Magazine just recently awarded him and already for two time he has been the best hotelier in he Middle East: http://www.hoteliermiddleeast.com/21486-rudi-jagersbacher-tops-hotelier-power-50-again/ He is founder member of the strong and important Hilton in the Community foundation: https://www.hilton-foundation.org.uk/ With 40 years in business he has made the careers of many industry people and he just reached the milestone of 100 hotels in his region... ( nearly double the size under his guidance) and so on.

So I really don't why this entry has been rejected. To verity my knowledge I'm working in the hotel / tourism business since 1979 - I studied at Cornell University and since 2001 I do have my own agency working for clients like Mandarin Oriental Hotel Group. and we have e.g. launched Net Jets from Warren Buffett in the German speaking market, we have conducted many PR events with and for Arnold Schwarzenegger.... Let me know which further information you would need or what I need to change in the entry to get it uploaded.

Greetings from Munich, Germany Annette Zierer

Azierer (talk) 10:51, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for the message. The article's tone should be one expected in an encyclopaedia, see WP:TONE. The article should be objective, and accordingly it is a good idea to read WP: WORDS, then make any changes as you feel appropriate, before re-submitting. Thanks, C679 15:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

14:03:00, 2 January 2015 review of submission by Sjaak65[edit]


Hi,

Thank you for reviewing my submission. I must say that this is becoming quite discouraging. I already went through the notability issue with the previous reviewer. We agreed that the notability guidelines were met. This concerns a blues artist, so just like jazz and classical musicians it is rather unrealistic to expect charted singles or major music awards. I used as references three nationally published magazines in three different countries and an encyclopedic book on the subject that makes mention of this artist.

The following criteria from the notability guidelines are met:

1. Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself. (I listed 4)

4. Has received non-trivial coverage in independent reliable sources of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country. (DieDra did two European tours earlier this year, which was covered in Dutch and Belgian blues magazines. It doesn't make much sense however to refer to these on an English wiki page, since they are in Dutch and French respectively).

7. Has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city. (DieDra represented Alabama in the International Blues Challenge three years in a row. She made the finals twice).

9. Has won or placed in a major music competition. (As a finalist in the International Blues Challenge she ended with the 9 best out of 255 international competitors. There is no 2nd or 3rd place in this competition, so one could say that the 8 losing finalists placed. The IBC is the first most prominent music competition for blues music.)

According to the notability guidelines, a musician may be notable if at least one of the criteria is met. I say she meets 4.

The request of the last reviewer was to match the references with the stated facts and resubmit (see comments). This I did and I really don't know what more I can do.

I ask you kindly to reconsider your declination.

Regards,

Sjaak.

Sjaak65 (talk) 14:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I disagree though. If the previous reviewer believes the notability guidelines are met, you are free to ask him to take another look. I feel the best criteria to get this through is #4: coverage in non-English language sources is permissible per WP:NONENG, so see what you can add. Thanks, C679 15:47, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for reviewing my submission (32 Service Battalion). I do not believe that it is advertising in that it represents a military unit. In fact it would be the same ashttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Service_Battalion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Service_Battalion 32 Service Battalion in Toronto has a very unique history and it will have a lot more data added comparable to 1 Service Battalion.

John

WikiCup 2015 launch newsletter[edit]

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Canadian soccer players[edit]

Thanks for the clarification. When it comes to the latest one, Marco Bustos, he has appeared for his professional team in a cup match. I think he is notable because two other players, Marco Carducci and Kianz Froese, also made their debuts with Bustos in that same cup match and both have wiki articles on them. Froese has since made a first team appearance in league play, but his article was made when he only had that one cup match to his name.

Also, as long as it a professional league, if a player makes an appearances in them, does that makes them notable?

Yes. I have accepted the article. Thanks, C679 23:27, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

03:41:43, 3 January 2015 review of submission by Shubhsati[edit]


added new references Shubhsati (talk) 03:41, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Albert Bonass GA[edit]

Hello. Thank you again for taking the time to do the review and for your helpful comments. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:26, 3 January 2015 (UTC)


10:02, 3 January 2015‎ review of submission by Jonpat123[edit]

Hello. Thank you for taking time to review my first ever article draft. As what you mention earlier, my draft does not meet general notability guidelines. I want to ask what part of general notability guidelines does my draft lack of? Is it "Significant coverage"? "Reliable"? "Sources"? "Independent of the subject"? "Presumed"? or all of them? I'm new to this activity so I need your guidance. Thank you.

Jonpat123 (talk)

@Jonpat123: AFC U-14 Girls Regional Championship (ASEAN), as well as other child sports tournaments in similar parts of the world, is not considered notable, due to absence of significant coverage, so of course an article on a season of it falls under the same criteria. Hope this clarifies. C679 11:36, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Copyright violations[edit]

I saw you that when you reviewed Draft:Team Survivor you failed to notice it was a copyright violation of various websites. To help you check for copyvios, you may wish to install Technical 13's CVDetector script, which adds a convenient sidebar link to Earwig's Copyvio Detector tool. Just add

mw.loader.load( '//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Technical_13/Scripts/CVD.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' ); //Backlink: [[User:Technical 13/Scripts/CVD]]

to your script JS page. I have tagged the draft for G12. Thanks, BethNaught (talk) 17:00, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

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Helen Rollason GAN[edit]

Hi, thanks for your review. Just a quick note to say I've had a look at the comments and addressed most of them. I have a small query about one point, but have left a note on the review page. Thanks once again for taking a look at this. Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 22:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

ok, think I've done it now. This is Paul (talk) 23:24, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, that's fantastic. This is Paul (talk) 15:24, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Community Shield[edit]

Sorry, I forgot to watch the GAN page. I'll go through those new issues as soon as I can. '''tAD''' (talk) 04:48, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

soccer kick GA[edit]

May I ask why this has been put on hold? I have made the changes that you stated were needed. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 13:45, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Outstanding items, in particular everything I mentioned last time I added to the page, as well as a few things not done from the last run (all referencing issues). C679 13:49, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

19 January 2015 review of submission by K8bell[edit]

Hi, Thank you for your feedback on my page on EF Standard English Test. I have resolved the two issues you pointed out:

1. I'd inverted the TOEFL/IELTS column headers, which is why the scores for both were impossible. Sorry about that. I should have proofed more carefully.

2. On the broken reference link, I see that the whitepaper which is the source changes URL regularly (with every new version of the pdf) so instead I have updated that reference link to point at the page where the whitepaper can be downloaded. That URL does not seem to change. Is that the right way to proceed? If linking directly to the whitepaper as a reference, the link will break with every update made to the paper. Not a very good way for the webmaster to manage their links, but it seems like the practice in place.

I'd love to hear from you if you think the page is ready for resubmission or not.

thanks K8bell (talk) 11:28, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

1998 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup Final review comments[edit]

Hello Cloudz!

I looked through your review yesterday, and while I do agree with some of your points, I still have to question it. For instance, you asked why the League Cup was linked to the 1998 final? If you take a look at the page, you will see that the final was actually played in March, which was earlier in the season (The 1997 final took place between Leicester City and Middlesbrough). Also, if you are wondering why references 64 and 90 do not contain urls, it is because they are actually UEFA documents (line-ups and match report), and it is not something you will find on the internet since UEFA does not seem to have PDF reports for Cup Winners' Cup matches. (I can send images if you are interested). As for some of the non-English references you pointed out, I did try to find them in English, but I was unsuccessful because of the lack of match coverages on English websites for those matches, particularly the Dutch source. However, I did manage to replace the Turkish link. Arbero (talk) 12:12, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 March newsletter[edit]

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02:22:45, 8 March 2015 review of submission by 73.12.113.223[edit]


Thanks for taking the time to review my submission. This is my first submission to Wikipedia, and no hoax. I used an existing Wikipedia page (which was not declined) as a template. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Ott. Ott was/is a peer of Brian Zero's. They are from the same generation of punk rock in California, an underground music history that is historically relevant.

Since you are the experienced reviewer, please tell me how to edit the Brian Zero submission and I will do so.

I have many sources to cite, and additional content to add, such as Brian Zero being cited in publications and interviewed. I had difficulty adding citation marks in the piece while writing it, but that's a technical question you probably don't field.

Miriam 73.12.113.223 (talk) 02:22, 8 March 2015 (UTC) 73.12.113.223 (talk) 02:22, 8 March 2015 (UTC) 73.12.113.223 (talk) 02:22, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

GA Review - "Dammit"[edit]

Hey there, thanks for the GA review on "Dammit". I implemented all of your suggestions. Saginaw-hitchhiker (talk) 21:52, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Beard Beer thanks[edit]

Thanks for expanding Rogue Beard Beer. Let's hope it gets accepted in time for a National Beer Day DYK! — Brianhe (talk) 22:15, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Patrick Woohead - Help Needed![edit]

Hi there - I'm a complete beginner so apologies if I'm doing this wrong! Thanks for offering to help when my page wasn't published. I now understand that achievements need to be verified by secondary sources - are the following all valid? If I listed them in Footnotes, would they validate the page, enabling it to be published?

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/an-awfully-big-adventure-73699.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/breakfast/3408593.stm http://www.soservices.co.uk/SpeakerDetail/506#details http://www.janklowandnesbit.co.uk/patrick-woodhead http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/21/travel/tmagazine/21T-JUNGLE.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1& http://v1.explorapoles.org/UK/Whos/PT_U-Z/Woodhead_Patrick.htm http://www.planetwildlife.com/magazine/travel-whispered.php http://www.henleycol.ac.uk/henleycollege/news/lectures.html#wood http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news/local/latest-news/south-pole-return-for-bury-man-1-408133 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2829794/Follow-footsteps-Bear-Grylls-Prince-William-luxury-46-000-Antarctic-safari-Patrick-Woodhead.html

Thanks again for your help.

Best wishes,

Claire

Beneaththeice (talk) 14:32, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Clown in the Dumps/GA1[edit]

Cloudz679, I just got a note on my talk page from Taylor Trescott about this review; I'd pinged Taylor's talk page a little over a week ago, asking what was up. Taylor won't be able to review the article, so I'm going to put the nomination back into the nominating pool, retaining its seniority. I'm going to try to have the review page deleted, but if that doesn't work there's another way to accomplish this. I'm sorry that this review didn't work out, and hope that someone picks it up quickly once it's available. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:53, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Attendances in Euro 2016 Qualifying[edit]

Where do you get the attendances from? OlJa 20:26, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

@Oldstone James: Home broadcaster, what a finish to the game it was - [1]. C679 21:11, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
@Cloudz679:Doesn't show the attendance though... OlJa 21:23, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
@Oldstone James: If you do a search for 13722, you will find it. C679 05:00, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter![edit]

All the best! "Carry me down, carry me down; carry me down into the wiki!" (talk) 01:09, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Re:GA[edit]

Hi, first of all I would like to apologize for any mess created at GA. I truly accept the fact that I write grammatically incorrect English, so I would from now on have my articles copyedited before nominating. Have a nice day ! RRD13 দেবজ্যোতি (talk) 11:26, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Belgium NFT nomination for GA[edit]

Dear Cloudz, today the time has come to nominate Belgium national football team for Good Article status. Apart from me, other users as Sygmoral, Euryalus and Pelotas also significantly contributed to it in last years. Also a bit thanks to you - you were one of the first to warn me for not making the article too large and flow-breaking (with statistics and the like).

I noticed you helped to promote 6 articles to GA yourself and reviewed 37 articles for it, from which very recently Saido Berahino. If you are willing to review the Belgium NFT article one day: be my guest! In my opinion you are more than qualified to do so, and also still allowed to do so (because you only made 2 contributions to the article itself). Other suggestions to improve the article are of course always welcome. Friendly regards, Kareldorado (talk) 13:22, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Saido Berahino GAN[edit]

Thanks for the suggestions. I've carried through on them. Can't believe I didn't spot some of the clunky prose beforehand. Now it's time for the mammoth task of the referencing checks. '''tAD''' (talk) 19:01, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Better late than never![edit]

Hi, I was just checking all my DYK page views to see if any qualified for the Hall of Fame known as WP:DYKSTATS by passing 5,000 page views. Indeed, the one I wrote when you made Milan Baroš became a Good Article did: see Wikipedia:DYKSTATS/Archive 2014#March 2014 '''tAD''' (talk) 09:38, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Tevin Campbell album covers[edit]

Hi, User: Cloudz679! I would like to give you an update on some things. I noticed that a long time ago you uploaded several (if not all) of Tevin Campbell's album covers to their appropriate wikipedia pages. However, I noticed that the album cover for Campbell's I'm Ready album has been deleted. As for the others, such as T.E.V.I.N., Back to the World and Tevin Campbell, I don't think they are clear or big enough. Since you are the original uploader of the photos, I would like to suggest that you upload better versions of those album covers for the sake of those who visit each album's page. Thank You! (talk) 08:38, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

@EricEgo2012: That was deleted because fair use images cannot be stored at Commons. If you want better resolution images of the other covers, feel free to upload them yourself. WP:IMAGERES indicates acceptable sizes. Thanks, C679 10:15, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015 May newsletter[edit]

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GA review for Mike Heath (swimmer)[edit]

Hey, Cloudz679. Please accept my apologies for my slow response to your review comments. This GA nomination sat untouched and unreviewed for two months, and I was distracted by other Wiki-work this past week. I believe that I have now addressed all of your concerns at Talk:Mike Heath (swimmer)/GA1. How would you like to proceed? Should I simply re-list/renominate the article? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 17:04, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, not much time at the moment. I see you have already re-nominated. I will try to get to it though. Thanks, C679 08:22, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Cloudz. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 08:30, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Vratislav Lokvenc[edit]

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Bohemians 1905[edit]

While I appreciate your updates to this page, I am just wondering why you removed the details of their expulsion from the league and the record in the league to that point? Surely this would be of interest to readers? I could just edit it back in but I do not want to get into that. Could there be someway that we can come to some sort of agreement when editing this page? (It is the only one I edit at this time.) Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Colthegooner (talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

@Colthegooner: Their expulsion is mentioned in the history section, I added that to the article with a reference myself in 2011. Regarding the results of that season, they are officially void, so I don't see how including them in the statistics section is relevant. They may be worked into the text, but would somewhat unbalance the article. What do you think about that? Could you expand with further details about subsequent seasons, given your interest? Thanks, C679 19:54, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
@Cloudz679: I have just another look at the page and now think that you are right. The league stats table does now look a lot better. I wanted, and had started, doing the league stats for the clubs time in the Czechoslovak leagues, what do you think? Also, they do not use the club logo that is on the page anymore, but i do not know how to change it. (The new official logo is on their Czech language page.) What did you mean about subsequent seasons? Colthegooner (talk) 20:36, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
@Colthegooner: I mean seasons between 2004/05 and now. I will have a go at the logo this week. League stats for the Czechoslovak era is a great idea, I started with post-1993 as it is much easier, and I haven't finished all the current professional teams yet. Of course if you have access to the older Bohemka stuff, please add it with the same layout. Thanks, C679 21:19, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Josef Masopust[edit]

Josef Masopust is nominated to appear on recent deaths on the main page, but the article is somewhat under-referenced. Do you have any references which could help with making it up to standard, as a fitting tribute to the greatest Czech footballer ever? '''tAD''' (talk) 18:18, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

@The Almightey Drill: I have added a couple of refs, it is far from perfect as I am limited on Wiki-time right now, but hopefully it is useful. Thanks, C679 20:03, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
More than appreciated, thank you '''tAD''' (talk) 20:10, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Vratislav Lokvenc/GA1[edit]

Just a reminder that the reviewer has responded with further edits; the nomination is doing well and there doesn't seem to be a great deal left for you to do, but you will need to address these issues soon. I hope you return to editing before too long has passed. Best of luck finishing the outstanding issues! BlueMoonset (talk) 21:35, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Vratislav Lokvenc[edit]

The article Vratislav Lokvenc you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Vratislav Lokvenc for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dirtlawyer1 -- Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:21, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

  • Congratulations, your nominated article has been promoted to Good Article. If you intend to submit a "Did you know?" regarding the article for publication on Wikipedia's main page, please note that you have seven days from today to do so per the DYK instructions at WP:DYK. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 15:38, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Dirtlawyer1: Thank you for your review. The article has already featured at DYK, but it is all the better for your words. Thank you, C679 15:43, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Mitropa Cup[edit]

Do you have time to edit the rest of seasons of Mitropa Cup.I have seen you created the rest of the seasons. Thank you !Alexiulian25 (talk) 10:16, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

@Alexiulian25: I only created three seasons of the tournament. It takes quite a long time and there is basically no prose to add. Which season(s) are you interested in particularly? I may be able to do a couple. Thanks, C679 09:09, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
@Cloudz679: I know it takes time, I also create seasons in competitions, but I work 3-4 seasons per week and is good, slow progress but enough to be done in time. You can start with the : 1936 Mitropa Cup, 1937 Mitropa Cup, 1938 Mitropa Cup, 1939 Mitropa Cup. Thanks. Alexiulian25 (talk) 10:14, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
@Cloudz679: And I know you can not find so much prose, but 2-3 lines is enough for the begining, what is important is the games and results. You also can add the runner-ups on the main table and a separete table with the number of winners by team. Thank you.Alexiulian25 (talk) 10:20, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
@Alexiulian25: I would suggest, if you have the time, to be bold and create them yourself! As far as your proposed additions to the main Mitropa Cup page, you are free to add the material yourself, provided you include a reliable source. Good luck, C679 19:45, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
@Cloudz679: I am editing other pages : Cupa Romaniei, there is so many seasons missing ... to much work... I can t do everything by myself, I need a football supporter like you to help me, at least one season per week and is still good. Just help me a bit. Thanks.Alexiulian25 (talk) 19:52, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of VladimĂ­r Remek[edit]

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WikiCup 2015 September newsletter[edit]

The finals for the 2015 Wikicup has now begun! Congrats to the 8 contestants who have survived to the finals, and well done and thanks to everyone who took part in rounds 3 and 4.

In round 3, we had a three-way tie for qualification among the wildcard contestants, so we had 34 competitors. The leader was by far Scotland Casliber (submissions) in Group B, who earned 1496 points. Although 913 of these points were bonus points, he submitted 15 articles in the DYK category. Second place overall was Philadelphia Coemgenus (submissions) at 864 points, who although submitted just 2 FAs for 400 points, earned double that amount for those articles in bonus points. Everyone who moved forward to Round 4 earned at least 100 points.

The scores required to move onto the semifinals were impressive; the lowest scorer to move onto the finals was 407, making this year's Wikicup as competitive as it's always been. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:

  1. Belarus Cas Liber (submissions), who is competing in his sixth consecutive Wikicup final, again finished the round in first place, with an impressive 1666 points in Pool B. Casliber writes about the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. A large bulk of his points this round were bonus points.
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Good luck to the finalists; the judges are sure that the competition will be fierce!

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FC Hradec Králové[edit]

A long time ago, you wrote that Hradec Králové won the Czechoslovak First League on their first appearance in the top flight in the 1959–60 season. The reference you added as a source for this statement was a book written in Czech. Does that book really include the aforementioned claim? — 37 (talk) 00:35, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

This was actually written by User:Bradka even longer ago. However, thank you for drawing this to my attention, as I have revisited the source which supports the text only partially. It wasn't their first-ever season in the First League, but they hadn't played there the previous season. I will change the article accordingly. Thanks, C679 06:15, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Transfermarkt essay[edit]

As the other primary editor involved in removing Transfermarkt references from Wikipedia, I'd like you input on something. I'm sure you've gotten your fair share of questions about why the site isn't reliable. I've gotten so many that I'm starting to think it might be useful to have a Wikipedia namespace page outlining the problems with the site. I've drafted a sample essay at User:Sir Sputnik/Sandbox. Let me know what you think. Is this a good idea? Does my draft need changes? Cheers. Sir Sputnik (talk) 05:53, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Halloween cheer![edit]

WikiCup 2015: The results[edit]

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WikiCup 2015 is now in the books! Congrats to our finalists and winners, and to everyone who took part in this year's competition.

This year's results were an exact replica of last year's competition. For the second year in a row, the 2015 WikiCup champion is Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions) (FP bonus points). All of his points were earned for an impressive 253 featured pictures and their associated bonus points (5060 and 1695, respectively). His entries constituted scans of currency from all over the world and scans of medallions awarded to participants of the U.S. Space program. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came in second place; she earned by far the most bonus points (4082), for 4 featured articles, 15 good articles, and 147 DYKs, mostly about in her field of expertise, natural science. Belarus Cas Liber (submissions), a finalist every year since 2010, came in third, with 2379 points.

Our newcomer award, presented to the best-performing new competitor in the WikiCup, goes to United States Rationalobserver (submissions). Everyone should be very proud of the work they accomplished. We will announce our other award winners soon.

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WikiCup Award[edit]

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WikiCup 2016 is just around the corner...[edit]

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Yosuke Sakamoto[edit]

Hi - they have parallel histories so merging them isn't ideal. Redirecting one to the other is fine. GiantSnowman 09:18, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Czech Cup[edit]

I see you are a member of Czech Republic and interested in Czech Cup, can you please create the early 4 seasons from the competition ? Thank you !--64.140.157.28 (talk) 11:05, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

There is quite a lack of readily available sources about these iterations, but I will try to put a stub online for them, at least. Thanks for the encouragement! C679 12:28, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
[2] Here is a good source, with 4th Round, QF, SF and F. Same for the rest editions and maybe someone else will find later the rest of the rounds also.--64.140.157.28 (talk) 13:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Do we have on Wikipedia a list with all cup finals in Czech Republic from whole history? (from 1906) - here is a good source [3] at least to have a table with all finals because we will not find more details about those old finals.--64.140.157.28 (talk) 13:09, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Czech Supercup[edit]

Can you create the seasons from Czech Supercup ? with line-ups and match details, take models other pages with cup finals around the world.

Czech Supercup 2015, Czech Supercup 2014, Czech Supercup 2013, Czech Supercup 2012, Czech Supercup 2011, Czech Supercup 2010

Thank you !--216.75.21.50 (talk) 19:53, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I did add infobox and improved a bit the page, you can create also a template for the editions of Czech Supercup.--216.75.21.50 (talk) 20:12, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm not interested in making those articles, there is very little about them to note other than the scoreline. Even if you choose not to register for an account, you can still make the articles yourself by going to Wikipedia:Article wizard. Good luck! C679 20:18, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA[edit]

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Tomáš Rosický[edit]

Hi Cloud, thank you for correcting the reference on my Tomáš Rosický edit. Liam E. Bekker (talk) 19:42, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your support[edit]

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Sumsky[edit]

Hello, please dont take me wrong for reverting you there, but that list is done in a way to include players without appearances as well. Reagrds, FkpCascais (talk) 20:39, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

"This is a list of foreign football players that have played in the Yugoslav First League or play in any of its successor top leagues" - seems like clear scope for inclusion in the first line, wouldn't you agree? C679 21:27, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
It is all explained up there. Cheers. FkpCascais (talk) 22:33, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
Such a deictic expression makes no sense here, but I see you are collecting cases like him (players left out) at the talk page of the mentioned article, so I guess you can put him there if that's how you do it. Thanks, C679 22:39, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
It was my mistake, I thought the lede from the List of foreign football players in Serbia was similar in that list as well, since I created both long time ago using the same criteriums. But I forgot the lede at the Yugoslav list is much more simplfied because the list is quite long and I wanted to spare bites. The intention of the Yugoslav list is to include all foreign players that were signed by any Yugoslav club. Also, there are some periods of some leagues we know players were part if certain club but we have difficulties finding the exact stats from that time. Since leagues from former Yugoslavia rely less on foreign players that most other European ones, it didnt looked dramatic to include the players without league apeearances as well. The list became popular ammong football statistics enthuiasts from the region cause one can see on spot which leagues brought most players from which countries and the general tendencies. Even if Yugoslavia broke away, there is still present major rivalry ammong the states that formed it and to see which league brought better players from what country.
Are you Czech? My grand-grand-father was Czech from Prague. He was a construction engeneer and he was in the team that projected and supervised the contruction of the Vienna-Istambul railroad, the Orient Exrpess. His company alocated him to their headquarters in Belgrade, and during the many years he worked there, he met a Serbian lady and married her (my grand-grand-ma). They stayed in Belgrade and had children and that is why I have a Czech surname and origins. Unfortunatelly, I am yet to visit Prague, but I found distant family there and in Switzerland. I love football history and statistics and I intend in some near future to create the list of foreigners in Czech Republic having as source synotliga.cz. FkpCascais (talk) 23:35, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Huligan0/Cedric Itten[edit]

Hello Cloudz679. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Huligan0/Cedric Itten, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion.

It's perfectly normal to draft an article in userspace, and since this footballer plays in the Swiss Superleague he passes WP:NFOOTY and it is a valid article as it stands. WP:FAKEARTICLE is only for things that are not valid articles being kept long-term in user space. JohnCD (talk) 10:13, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Apologies - I see now that there is a mainspace article, and that is why you tagged this. FAKEARTICLE is still not a valid speedy reason (check out WP:CSD), so deletion of a page like this would need to be proposed at WP:MFD. Where the page was a userspace draft from which the mainspace article was derived, the usual answer there is to redirect to the main article, thus preserving the history, so I have done that, and the same for User:Huligan0/Manuel Akanji. JohnCD (talk) 10:27, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Alexandru Sorian[edit]

He has 9 games played for Sageata Navodari in Liga 1. This information is on soccerway.com Rhinen (talk)

So he has. How confusing that Soccerway use the abbreviation LII for Liga I and Liga II as well. Thanks, C679 15:07, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it's strange. But anyway, I don't understand why Liga II is not a fully pro league, because Liga II and Liga III are considered professional leagues and are administered by Romanian Football Federation, in Romania only from Liga IV down are considered amateur leagues. Rhinen (talk)

Speedy deletion declined: Ă…dalen (Denmark)[edit]

Hello Cloudz679. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ă…dalen (Denmark), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: It passes the WP:A1 test: it obviously describes a place in Odense, Denmark. The problem here is that there doen't seem to be any verification that it is in fact a place in Odense. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 09:55, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Re:Just a minute[edit]

I'd suggest you list at separate AFDs, given they technically pass NFOOTBALL the debate will boil down to GNG and will be different for every one. GiantSnowman 20:32, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Sebastián Díaz[edit]

I already have put the references at Sebastián Díaz’s article as well as improved it, within the extent possible , What’s the problem now?, I wanna reach a consensus with you and I must to tell you that I don’t know much about Wikipedia’s bureaucracy in this kind of cases. I wait for your answer, greetings from Santiago de Chile. Ulof4 (talk) 21:27, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

The main policy is WP:GNG, as stated in the deletion discussion. For players based in Chile, showing they have played in the Campeonato Nacional may also be sufficient. Has he played there? C679 06:28, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Alberto Schettino[edit]

Please read the list of Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues before nomination. Matthew_hk tc 22:34, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

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2 of the Mexican footballers who I have found dead links or rather pages that go elsewhere recently[edit]

Finding tons of these on the shortest articles, anyway these 2-Luis Fernando TĂ©lles and Mauricio TalancĂłn, yeah might want to look for some refs! Wgolf (talk) 20:54, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

@Wgolf: sources added. Let me know if you need help with any others. Thanks, C679 05:23, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Welcome, looking at the shortest bios, it seems the guy who created those articles owns nearly half of the list! (last year there seem to be tons of Indian politicians mentioned, this year Mexican footballers!), just look at some of the entries on Wikipedia:Database reports/Shortest biographies of living people, quite a few are the Mexican soccer players and quite a few have the BLP sources tag. Wgolf (talk) 19:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Just found another one-Carlos Calvo Beristain, ref has nothing to do with him. Wgolf (talk) 19:09, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Nathan Boyle[edit]

G'Day Cloudz,

I'll need a bit of help from you around the whole deleting and GNG policies. I started doing a bit of research before I approached you and brought the text into my user space to continue working on it. I guess it's due to be deleted any minute now. I was keeping my random thoughts here for now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SeanMack/Rescue Hopefully I've tagged it correctly as a fake article so I can keep working on it as time goes on until it does pass notability or I just get bored and delete it.

The reason for contacting you is to see if you can help me understand the rules a bit better around notability and deleting. I was also hoping to understand the difference between when there is a vote for notability and when there is a simple tag and delete?

Doing my reading around it I get the reason for deletions of articles because there is a wish to not have cruft and one line articles about nobodys...

In this case I did think he passed notability guidelines as I understood them.


I can see the notability debate has been going for literally years - with a lot of people agreeing it's not right but unable to improve the guidelines. My thought was that Boyle has had coverage in national papers so I thought that was enough for normal notability outside the football notability rules - but I guess not?

I read the guideline about players need to be in a *fully* professional league. I read other people rant about that - much of it seems fair as it penalizes countries that have soccer followings but not the same level of money to make something fully professional. Especially the case with a few countries like Ireland.

Seems there is a breakdown between the need for articles that should be there because there would be an actual demand to read them as a lookup and trying to have a policy that will hold over every league in the world - seems that bias in this case has gone the wrong way as we are writing articles in English on people that are from English speaking countries and will want to be read by people from English speaking countries. Seems trying to stop articles on minor players in leagues all over the world is interfering with a genuine need for information propagation. Anyway not to start a debate - it's something you've heard a million times... "Ah but I put work into that. Why are you deleting it..blah blah".

My main request is to help me define to myself what the minimum level is for Irish footballers - I don't want to waste my limited time and energy writing an article that doesn't last; when I could be doing something more productive, in or out of wiki

I'm really struggling with what "significant coverage" means even though I feel I've read a fair bit now. So if you could help me out with that, that would be cool.

To use the Boyle article as an example - I do get that things like the club site and some of the general data gathering sites aren't enough. But for this guy there is coverage in the BBC, the biggest local paper, and a national paper - eg:

So - I don't want to be writing articles that get deleted on sight - I've only recently returned to wiki after getting a bit disillusioned. Bottom line I guess is that I want to understand when it's worth putting the time into writing an article. You'd probably see the article I mention isn't just a few lines and has plenty of inline refs, so it did take effort.

I thought I read somewhere that notability would pass if a player played for a professional team against another professional team - but I'm not sure if I misread that or imagined it?

I was thinking about writing something on Niclas Vemmelund. The way I see it now he would pass the footy notability requirement. A heads up on that one would be good too. What would be your call on Vemmelund passing?

Cheers. SeanMack (talk) 06:19, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

@SeanMack: Hi Sean. The passing for one pro team against another is in fact teams from fully-pro leagues, which may happen in competitive matches (Europa League for example). You are right in not wanting to write only to find out it has been deleted later, not a good use of time. Regarding Boyle, the Derry Journal article seems to be exactly the kind of material which can help towards GNG. However the other ones you pasted above may be insufficient in themselves per WP:ROUTINE. You are welcome to challenge the proposed deletion of the article if you feel GNG is met - although the article may still be listed for discussion if any editor believes notability is in question. In this case I would say if you can find another article from, for example the BBC or Irish News, which deals with the player "directly and in detail" per WP:SIGCOV, then GNG would likely be met. The same applies to Vemmelund or anybody else. In any case, sources first, article second. You are right there are (and have been) a lot of one-liners about Dan Smith is a footballer, etc. So if you are adding players from your favourite team, start with the ones which have had the longest (and probably most media-covered) careers. Players who have played matches in any leagues listed at WP:FPL are at this time considered notable even when the meeting of GNG is not clearly established. So just to summarise, there is no "minimum level for Irish footballers" per se, but rather a minimum for any footballer who hasn't played in a fully-professional league, which I have tried to set out above. Others may be able to give further info at WikiProject Football. Thanks, C679 06:45, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Hey. Thanks for the details. It does help clarify some of the stuff I've been trawling through. I can see some editors slapping on tags and then defending their position agressively - and you certainly haven't done that to your credit.
TBH, even though it sounds bad, it *was* a matter of finding out the bare minimum, because so many of the criteria for notability can be pretty arbitrarily applied - I wanted to know at what point would another editor be prepared to leave an article without deleting it because they aren't interested in smaller players.
I suppose looking at this conversation I'm an inclusionist I guess and believe in having articles when it seems to me a reader out there would be interested in this case in what WP is really good at - and that is a synopsis and jumping off point for other info. So, it's not so much that I'm creating pet pages for my favourite team - I'm trying to counter what I see as poor consideration (rightly or wrongly) of a league like Irelands (actually North and South). I certainly wouldn't be adding very junior players with fringe experience. To me the point is - will this be interesting to someone out there against is it so minor the article has no chance of growing. I think the notability criteria are a necessary evil to stop cruft.
If I take it as a rough guideline for myself that if I can't find 2 articles in reasonable news sources about the person themselves (not just mentioned in passing) - that's a sign for me to maybe wait till later until I invest energy. I realise there can be subjectivity on some of this stuff - but personally I now have a better guideline in my head.
Specifically back to Boyle again - to use him as a sounding board. When I read this:
I did think the articles would have fulfilled that, but it depends how someone subjectively defines "detail". I think my main problem is being able to boil that statement down, so that after a quick Google I can see whether the guidelines are met.
Do you think you would be happy to put this one to a vote so I can see how the process develops? Particularly as I found another article specifically about him:

Regards SeanMack (talk) 07:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

@SeanMack: Hi Sean. Having looked through your points from both posts here at my talk page, I am not fully convinced he meets GNG, but there is a sufficiently strong argument to make me doubt whether he would be deleted after a discussion (WP:AFD) so I have removed the deletion tag. As mentioned before, this doesn't preclude a discussion being initiated by another user, but integrating the sources you mentioned here into the article (if you haven't done so already) would certainly strengthen the article and add weight to the potential keep argument, were it to come to that. You are of course correct in your observations of subjectivism, hence the discussions allowing different interpretations of what we like to consider to be objective criteria. You seem to be doing a great job in increasing the verifiability of the articles, so keep up the good work. Thanks, C679 09:49, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Hey. Thanks again for the info and guidance. Yep I appreciate Boyle might be borderline and the article isn't protected but, at least, it has a chance to grow for now.
By the way - on a completely separate issue - I just noticed something - do you think its a bit strange that the SoccerBase template links to a racing post wiki page - or is just me?
Cheers. SeanMack (talk) 11:30, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Omar Israel Mendoza and Omar Mendoza[edit]

Intresting how I found Omar Israel Mendoza and Omar Mendoza, both Mexican footballers whose DOB are the same date. Not sure is this the same person or 2 different people right now though. As they both have 2 separate Spanish wiki pages. Not sure what to say. Wgolf (talk) 03:37, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

@Wgolf: different dates of birth, one of them had been noted incorrectly. And finally they play for different clubs. Thanks, C679 04:52, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Okay was making sure-the guy made a duplicate article earlier that was caught a few days ago! Wgolf (talk) 05:16, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Just noticed they are both on the template for Cruz Azul Hidalgo squad. (The person the guy created twice was Oscar Villia, which one of the 2 was deleted) Wgolf (talk) 02:35, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
The squad template is hopelessly out of date. If you want to update it, the info is at Soccerway, but with 42 players, I am not going to update that myself. C679 06:33, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you...[edit]

... for assessing and improving so many articles related to the Czech Republic. I am currently visiting CR (and having a great time!) so I am trying to create and make small improvements to articles when I can. Keep up the great work! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:21, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Footy Assessments[edit]

Hi Cloud, thank you for assessing Kermit Erasmus' page. I was wondering if you wouldn't be willing to do the same for the pages of Stephane Sparagna and Mahmoud Dahoud. I would do it myself but I've made a lot of contributions to those two pages and would prefer to avoid allegations of bias. It would be much appreciated. Liam E. Bekker (talk) 21:50, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Done. C679 04:26, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

WikiCup 2016 May newsletter[edit]

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Talk:2015 Copa del Rey Final/GA1[edit]

Cloudz679, you took over this GA review from the original reviewer. As far as I can tell, the issues you raised have been addressed in some fashion—can you please return to continue the review process? Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:48, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

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