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== Why is cluebot giving warnings for vandalism it didn't revert? ==
 
 
See [[User talk:69.14.79.142]]. I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=prev&oldid=211467987 revert], but then cluebot gives a warning for the vandalising edit ''that I revert'', [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:69.14.79.142&diff=prev&oldid=211467993 see here]. (Italics for emphasis) Why? <strong>[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#006400">Spencer</span>]]</strong><sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">C</span>]]</sup> 14:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 
:Weird ... must have edit conflicted with you and something weird happened. ClueBot uses rollback, and if rollback says it is successful, ClueBot warns, otherwise, it doesn't. -- [[User:Cobi|Cobi]]<sup>([[User talk:Cobi|t]]|[[Special:Contributions/Cobi|c]]|[[User:ClueBot Commons/Bots|b]])</sup>
 
::That's pretty weird. <strong>[[User:Spencer|<span style="color:#006400">Spencer</span>]]</strong><sup>[[User talk:Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">T♦</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Spencer|<span style="color:Coral">C</span>]]</sup> 18:12, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
==A Land without a people==
 
 
:Sorry I was trying to make an edit and I was using another article as a reference and I accidently pasted that article in it's place. It was an honest mistake.
 
 
:However, I wonder if you can help me. I'm about to make the case that this article should be deleted. That's what I was trying to do, but I screwed it up. I'm going to make my case that it should be deleted on the talk page. Could you add the deletion tag because I don't know how to do it. [[User:annoynmous|annoynmous]] 13:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
==End-of-article deletions==
 
Hi. I wasn't really sure where to put this, but figured you'd get the message to wherever it needs to go. I've come across two examples recently ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vallerotonda&diff=prev&oldid=200773453 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sabbio_Chiese&diff=201434977&oldid=180809652 here] where anonymous IPs have been so eager to leave their little mark on Wikipedia that they've deleted everything after a certain point, including the cats and interwikis. I can't help feeling that there's the basis for some kind of heuristic here - it has a major effect on the article and is obviously not being picked up at the moment - in fact Alaibot has been coming along a few weeks later and tagging them as uncategorised, and I found them because I was looking for Italian towns that "should" have been in certain categories and weren't. You could perhaps look for an anon editor removing all the cats and interwikis in one go? It also seems to happen accidentally - [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Milan&diff=211132265&oldid=211131714 here] is an example of an apparently good-faith anon editor not noticing that he'd deleted the last 5kb of the 53kb [[Milan]] article by accident. I'm quite happy to be told that this is a stoopid idea, but I figured I'd throw it your way in case you can do something with it.... [[User:FlagSteward|FlagSteward]] ([[User talk:FlagSteward|talk]]) 20:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
== Suggestion: make article title into a whitelist ==
 
 
I have a suggestion that might reduce certain false positives by ClueBot when it detects vandalism. I don't know PHP, so I am not sure whether this is already implemented.
 
 
Looking at ClueBot's source, I see that the addition of obscenities reduces the calculated value of an edit. However, it seems to be a lot more likely to mistakenly revert on articles with one of these words in the title. Perhaps it would improve the bot to reduce the impact of words already in the title, or to simply not take them into account at all? Basically, words in the title could be a whitelist for offensive language on that page.
 
 
For example, an edit containing the word "damn" is much less likely to be vandalism if it's on the article [[damnation]], so it wouldn't make sense to give an edit -5 for adding it to that page. Is this a good idea, or would it cause problems that I'm not aware of? [[User:Pyrospirit|<span style="color: green">Pyrospirit</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Pyrospirit|<span style="color: darkorange">talk</span>]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Pyrospirit|<span style="color: red">contribs</span>]]) 23:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
== Suggestion about warnings ==
 
 
I notice that the bot leaves warnings, especially to IP vandals, that rarely escalate. I saw one case where individuals left a level 1 warning after several instances of vandalism. I was wondering if there was a way for the bot to escalate warnings (up to final warning), so that the next case of vandalism will lead to a block. [[User:Orangemarlin|<font color="orange">'''Orange'''</font><font color="teal">'''Marlin'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]]</sup></small> 14:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 
 
{{user|208.125.114.245}} is the individual that prompted my leaving this comment.[[User:Orangemarlin|<font color="orange">'''Orange'''</font><font color="teal">'''Marlin'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]]</sup></small> 14:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 

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