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Posted by Coldcreation

The image, a photograph of Jean Metzinger, published in 1913, can be found directly in the 1913 publication, or here: http://books.google.es/books?id=qYATQ3Rw6qgC&q=metzinger#v=snippet&q=metzinger&f=false The cubist painters By Guillaume Apollinaire, translated and analyzed by Peter F. Read, University of California Press, 25 oct. 2004 - 234 pages.

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Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Antoine Pinchon[edit]

Hi, I'm not sure whether you knew that Robert Antoine Pinchon had been nominated for Did You Know? I've now reviewed it and have some concerns; could you have a look? In particular, there are several paragraphs with no reference, and Did You Know requires at least one reference per paragraph. I also think from the style and length in some places that you may have translated the Lespinasse book a bit too closely, but I can't see it to verify. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:28, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


From Coldcreation: Hi, thanks for your time spent. I've gone back and fixed up a few things (see edits) and added the citations where needed. Indeed, the Lespinasse book is a great source, not just for text but for photos. I did my best to put some of his writings into my own words. Otherwise I would place quotes around the text (in the case of a literal translation, usually short) Coldcreation (talk) 15:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I did see; thanks for all that effort! I did some further shortening and rewording and added two more mid-paragraph refs to Lespinasse on the assumption those facts were also from there. And I replaced the mention of a photo of him painting at age 12 with the one of a photo of him painting at age 8 that was in at least two sources I can see, and referenced it from one of them. I think between us we have probably eliminated any overly close translation there may have been, so I have given it its tick. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Coldcreation wrote: The photograph of R.A. Pinchon, on page 14 of Lespinasse, 2007, is from 1898. The painting pictured in that photograph is dated 98. He is clearly not 8 years old in that picture. So I can only assume that sources stating he is 8 years old are mistaken. Note too that there is, on the same page in Lespinasse, a color reproduction of the painting with the date visible. From 1 July 1898 Pinchon was 12. Aside from that change (which I just made) everything else appears accurate.Coldcreation (talk) 06:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Antoine Pinchon[edit]

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Henri Biva[edit]

What makes the author of the Henri Biva page think that the painter represented on the postcard at the top of the page, "Un coin du parc at Villeneuve l'Etang" is Henri Biva himself ? same question about the other postcard lower on the page, "Parc de Villeneuve l'Etang - promenade autour de l'Etang" ? --Dmmtvg (talk) 16:53, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


I have answered this question (a good one) directly in the Henri Biva talk page. Coldcreation (talk) 07:32, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for the notification. Those non-free images have now been removed for the userpage. Coldcreation (talk) 01:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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  • The Copyright tag for this image has been modified to the more general PD-US-1923-abroad. As such, this image is perfectly suited to Wikipedia rules for the publication of images. This work by Pablo Picasso was published abroad before 1923, and thus can have no independent copyright in the United States. It is simply a faithful reproduction of an old, public domain, 2-dimensional work of art published outside the United States prior to 1923. Coldcreation (talk) 08:26, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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I just added[edit]

a book about Joseph Csaky to the Further reading section of the article about him and you removed it,calling it "unproductive"?. What would be considered a productive title to add? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 19:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

  • Perhaps 'unproductive' was not the right word. Sorry for that. But that book by Balas is referenced in the article 15 times (See section entitled References). There is no need to place the same reference in the article in yet another section: 'Further reading', which is already loaded with further things to read.Coldcreation (talk) 19:33, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Makes sense. I felt that I was having a "productive" day editing and that word just hit me wrong. Life is supposed to be interesting. Carptrash (talk) 19:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

  • The intention was good, and that counts very much Carptrash. Coldcreation (talk) 19:43, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Another thought. I have been doing stubs for the red linked artists on the List of artists in the Armory Show list and did a rather unsatisfactory one for Jacqueline Marval. Since you seem to have a firm grounding in French art perhaps you could take a look at it? Carptrash (talk) 16:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

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Clément Serveau[edit]

The reason I removed the link from Clément Serveau to inforapid is because it fails our policy on reliable sources because it incorporates information from wikipedia (basically making it like referencing wikipedia itself) our policy on verification of information requires us to use third party sources that are reliable (information from that source can be trusted). If you have any questions let me know. Werieth (talk) 21:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

  • Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I hadn't caught it. Coldcreation (talk) 05:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I nominated En Canot, Im Boot (Metzinger) for DYK: Template:Did you know nominations/En Canot, Im Boot (Metzinger). If you have any suggestions for changing the hook or adding alternate ones, please go for it. (I discovered this article because the new notification system told me that an article I wrote, Georg Muche, had been linked to from yours.) MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:30, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

  • Excellent, thanks Mandarax, I think both the artist and the painting (wherever it may or may not be) merit the nomination. Good article, by the way, your Georg Muche. Coldcreation (talk) 19:44, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I had difficulty with the Muche article and was just glad to be done with it. I wish I was as good a writer as you are, but I plod along doing the best I can.... MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 21:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I hadn't looked at the Jean Metzinger article for a long time. Not long ago, when it was a tiny stub, I put it on my long list of articles that I'd like to expand some day. Wow, I checked it out today. Thanks for enabling me to cross that off the list! I'm sure you did a much better job than I would have. Ah, I just wish it had been nominated for DYK. It's been on my watchlist forever, but I guess I missed it when you were working on the expansion. (Alas, the vandals get more of my watchlist attention.) Thanks for the great work you're doing! MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 10:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

The DYK stalled because someone left an absolutely ridiculous comment (the 201-character hook was over the limit of 200) and, unfortunately, there's a mentality at DYK that, once someone has added a comment, no matter how ridiculous, nobody else will touch the nomination. Somebody finally left a useful comment – that there are some unreferenced paragraphs. DYK guidelines suggest that there be at least one inline citation for every paragraph other than the lead (with a few exceptions). Can you add citations to the paragraphs which have none? Thanks. Oh, and thanks again for all of your hard work. These days, I think you're the person who pops up on my watchlist most often. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 07:40, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, certainly. I'll get right on it. The paragraphs will be referenced shortly. And thanks again for your support. Coldcreation (talk) 07:47, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I saw the notice yesterday, Mandarax. Was waiting to see the number of views. I'm glad it idid well, will hold a place in the hall of fame and be permanently archived. I think Metzinger would have appreciated it too had he been around. Such a sensitive and intelligent man, he deserves the recognition for sure. Thanks again Mandarax... Coldcreation (talk) 10:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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  • Thank you very much indeed Graham (Sulfurboy). Appreciated greatly... Coldcreation (talk) 08:45, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

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Alexander Archipenko sculptures[edit]

FYI - I've added {{Do not move to Commons|expiry=2034}} to your 3 images - the artist died in 1964, so under German law, he and his descendants have full copyright until 70 years post death. As they are pre-1923, they are OK to stay on en-Wiki.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for En Canot, Im Boot (Metzinger)[edit]

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Couchée de soleil?[edit]

Why does the title of that Jean Metzinger painting, contain a French mistake? Do you know what the history behind it is? Contact Basemetal here 19:49, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Good question Basemetal. The source of the error, as far back as I could find, is from a publication: Neo-Impressionism, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, Robert L. Herbert, ‎1968.

In Neo-Impressionism it is written on page 219:

161 LANDSCAPE (COUCHER DU SOLEIL). 1906-1907

Oil on canvas, 28 1/2 x 39 1/4" (72.5 x 100 cm.).

Signed l.r. "J. Metzinger" and verso "Couchée de soleil no. 1".

Verso: RlVER SCENE WlTH SHlPS.

Collection Rijksmuseum Kröller-Müller, Otterlo.

There is a a photograph of the verso of the painting in the same publication. The title Metzinger wrote on the back is in fact neither COUCHER DU SOLEIL (Coucher du soleil) or Couchée de soleil no. 1

Next to Metzinger's signature on the reverse, the title reads: Coucher de soleil. The n° 1 is written above that title.

Unfortunately, I had not examined very closely the back of the work or I clearly would have seen Metzinger's actual title before publishing this article. Note: the verso has another painting (River scene with ships) upon which is superimposed, upside down relative to the River scene, Metzinger actual title. There is a mosaic-like rectangle of paint above the "e" of Coucher that looks like an acute accent (accent aigu). However, the "r" that follows is certainly not another "e" forming 'Couchée' as Robert Herbert must have thought.

So the correct title of this work is indeed Coucher de soleil no. 1.

Now all I need to figure out is how to change the title of the article. In the mean time I will, thanks to your inquiry, change the title where it appears in the article. Thanks again Basemetal. EDIT-> I've just added this discussion to the talk page of the article in question. Coldcreation (talk) 21:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

    • Done. The name change has been made. Coldcreation (talk) 00:15, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Precious[edit]

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Geometric abstraction
Thank you for creating and contributing to quality articles on art, artists and their works, such as Geometric abstraction, Antoni Tàpies, En Canot, and for defining yourself by your and their work alone with that gallery of a user page, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

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  • Thank you Gerda Arendt. Positive feedback like yours above is what keeps me going. Coldcreation (talk) 19:26, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
A year ago, you were the 524th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
Two years ago ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
You're so adorable. Thanks again and again Gerda Arendt. I love that blue crystal. :-) Coldcreation (talk) 10:33, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Tell the photographer, - he's still active as an admin on the commons ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Three years ago, you were recipient no. 524 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

Jean Metzinger images[edit]

All of those files are miss-tagged. See {{PD-1923}}. Werieth (talk) 17:51, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

  • The Metzinger images in question are tagged:
  1. An appropriate copyright tag explaining the basic claim of fair use is given for each work.
  2. A separate, detailed, specific fair use rationale is provided each time the image is used in an article. The name of the article within which the image appears is included in the rationale.

These are low resolution images used for encyclopedic purposes. They are essential to the articles in question. Please do not remove them for their respective articles. In the mean time, I will look into the {{PD-1923}} tag possibility. Thanks for you help. Coldcreation (talk) 19:21, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hey! I am hungarian user Apród.

Can you help translate from hungarian into english that article is about István Tóth hungarian photographer - at hungarian user Kispados request -? Should be a nice day! Apród (talk) 23:40, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

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  • Thank you Amanda. Great point. I have just revised the image gallery practically entirely. Found some very relevant works to include.Coldcreation (talk) 09:13, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi. Please explain this change. Tomer T (talk) 01:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Hello Tomer T. Yes, sorry, I should have explained as I made the change (EDIT: though I notice you did not give a reason for your edit either). I happened upon the Renoir article a few days ago and was pleasantly surprised to see a photo of the artist snapped during his first artistic peak, at a time around which he was painting Le Moulin de la Galette, during the Impressionist period, before the turn of the century, at a time when he was considered as a ground-breaking artist.
  • The image of Renoir you included (in place of the former) is similar to the ones found throughout the Internet, of a Renoir towards the end of his career, well beyond his prime as an artist, at a time when Impressionism had already been replaced as an avant-garde phenomenon first by Symbolism, then Neo-Impressionism, Divisionism, Fauvism, and even Proto-Cubism (c. 1910). If you would like to discuss the matter further, to reach some form of general consensus, feel free to post in the Talk section of the Renoir article. Coldcreation (talk) 07:36, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I moved the discussion to Talk:Pierre-Auguste Renoir#Lead image, and added my response there. Tomer T (talk) 17:50, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

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Gustave Miklos is the only red link sculptor on the List of sculptors, where I pretty much routinely remove such links. It would be great if you could throw together a stub for the fellow and turn his link blue. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:53, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message Carptrash. I actually had started to create a stub for Miklos yesterday, then got sidetracked. I will put something together very shortly, and expand it at a later date. Coldcreation (talk) 06:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
He looks like an interesting character. The recent book about him (in French) costs 225 Euros, a bit out of my range. I'll stick with Eli Harvey. Carptrash (talk) 16:13, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
I just posted the draft article Gustave Miklos (it's not really a stub). Draft because I stopped his biography around 1927. Coldcreation (talk) 00:27, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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Coldcreation - I'd rather see the quote showcased within the article. It is a striking quote, and was selected by art critic John Berger for special mention. It does more good than harm where it is. Perhaps the quote in the lower section can be removed, it you prefer. What do you think?36hourblock (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I would rather see the quote in the section where it belongs; Brâncuși on his own work. As it stands now that quote seems contextually out of place in the article. I'm moving this conversation to the Brâncuși Talk page for any further discussion. Coldcreation (talk) 22:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

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Dear Coldcreation, You have reverted my corrections to Bohr's Philosophy section. I have made every effort to comply with the Wikipedia guidelines, but if I have missed anything I would appreciate an openly voiced correction, rather than a silent deletion. As it currently is, the article grossly misrepresents a very important aspect of Bohr's life, and showing only one side of this issue violates every principle of honest representation. I would be happy to consider any specific and relevant criticisms on the matter, but for the integrity of the article and the quality of your own reputation it seems in your interest to undo this deletion for now. Thank you for your work.

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If you would like to include your text in the article post it first in the Talk page for consensus. Nothing personal, but the article seemed better before your post. The quote you used was unrelated to Bohr (per your source link), and the long sentences were awkwardly composed. Certainly, you could come up with another way of saying what you wrote. Using shorter sentences may help, along with quotes directly related to Bohr's position on the topic. Thanks for your comprehension. Coldcreation (talk) 07:38, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for uploading the picture "Idyllische Flusslandschaft.jpg", but, most of the pictures I had inserted before on the Paul Biva page have been deleted (and probably those you mention as having worked on because they were "floues") because they had not been officially published before : i.e. in an exhibition catalogue, or by a commercial publisher. Even pictures from auction sales are not allowed, although they may have been published in a catalogue. Therefore your picture "Idyllische Flusslandschaft.jpg", from the catalogue of the auctioneers Dorotheum will probably be deleted by the same robot or "cleaner". I have the feeling that the French wikipedia is a lot stricter than the English/American one. Otherwise i would have many more pictures form both Henri, Paul and Lucien Biva to upload !--Martine Vidal (talk) 18:09, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Dear Martine Vidal, thanks for your input and contribution to the Biva articles. Wikimedia Commons is an online repository of free-use images. The work of Paul Biva is in the public domain in countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years or less. I've just added the template PD-art-100 to the Commons images for Paul Biva. There is no reason why the photos you uploaded cannot be used in the French Paul Biva article. The user that removed them for the Paul Biva article was not justified in doing so. They need not be published. My only recommendation is to use good quality images. Pictures from auction sales are allowed. The images you uploaded are in the public domain because they represent works of art painted by a French artist who died more than 100 years ago. I will see if I can find some nice works by P. Biva online, and I will upload them to Commons, then I will proceed to post them in the French Paul Biva article. Let me know what you think. P.S. I would love for you to upload more Paul and Henri Biva works to Commons. Coldcreation (talk) 18:49, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Martine, I've just upload to Commons some works by Paul Biva. They are now in the French Wikipedia article Paul Biva. See Galerie. I also modified the image of Paul himself; a wonderful photo by the way. I hope the enhancement to your liking. Do you have any photographs of Henri Biva? Coldcreation (talk) 00:55, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Bonjour, many thanks for the addition of the Paul Biva Galerie; I do hope it stays uploaded. The argument given for deleting my own images was : "retrait de sources primaires (ventes aux enchères)", and I had this, previously : "L'article est illustré de plusieurs œuvres émanant d'une « collection privée ». Si ces œuvres n'ont pas été reproduites dans des sources secondaires vérifiables (monographies éditées à compte d'éditeur, catalogue d'exposition de musée reconnu, article dans la presse...), elles constituent des sources primaires et devront donc être retirées. --90.2.33.82 (d) 7 octobre 2012 à 23:35 (CEST)".

The pictures I might add are from my personal collection of paintings, so I expect they would even less qualify, but I will try as soon as I have time. Again many thanks for your help. --Martine Vidal (talk) 16:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Martine. The person that informed you and deleted the images didn't know what s/he was doing. These images (yours included) are perfectly usable in Wikimedia Commons, and thus in Wikipedia for any country that respects the PD-art-100 law, copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years. All Paul Biva (and Henri Biva) works are in the public domain in the source country: in this case France. If anyone removes the images let me know.
So, do you have any Henri Biva images (of the artist or his work) that you would be willing to share? A long time ago, 9 March 2012, after correcting dates for Henri Biva and for Lucien Biva, you wrote "I have a few more details about the Biva family that I may add". I'm still waiting?  : ) Coldcreation (talk) 18:32, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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Copyvio re-addition[edit]

Hi! You reverted my removal of copyvio material from Dick Higgins even though I clearly described it as such in my edit summary, and gave the link, http://archives2.getty.edu:8082/xtf/view?docId=ead/870613/870613.xml. You also did the same at three other articles. I'm quite sure you didn't mean to add copyright-infringing material to the encyclopaedia, but that is what you have done. Rather than undo your edits, I thought it would be more polite to ask you to do so yourself. Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:23, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Justlettersandnumbers. There is likely a misunderstanding. I simply replaced the External links you removed from three articles. While it is not recommended to provide many external links, several you removed were of importance. They should probably be selectively included rather than across-the-board deleted (as you have done). Your Getty links appears valuable, and so I will leave you to choose the course of action to take. Though I would dislike to see many more mass-deletions of external links in the near future (as I feel they add often precious information to the encyclopedic content provided to our users). As far as I know, adding external links does not amount to adding copyright-infringing material. Thanks for your kind message. Coldcreation (talk) 11:03, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your pleasant reply. The copyvio is not in the link, but in the description that follows it, which in almost every case this user, whose only activity under three or perhaps four names has been to spam links to the Getty archive (not something that is likely to please that outstanding institution), has copied verbatim from the archive description. If you feel that the links themselves are valuable (they were, as I recall, also broken, btw), then I will probably just remove the descriptions from them if I do not find that you have already done so when I get around to that.
On external links in general, it's my opinion that since excessive external links are generally discouraged and numerous references are encouraged, the best thing to do with useful links is to use them as references. What about something like "His papers are now in the Getty Foundation archive"<ref>? Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:20, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Move of Daniel Robbins reverted.[edit]

Greetings! I have reverted your bold move of Daniel Robbins so that the move may be discussed. Per Wikipedia:Requested moves, potentially controversial moves must be discussed through a move request before the move is carried out. Any move of a page with a longstanding title and/or a large number of incoming links should be considered potentially controversial. Furthermore, per WP:TWODABS, it is not necessary to have a disambiguation page if there are only two possible meanings of a term, and one of them can be considered the primary topic of the term. In that case, it is sufficient to place a hatnote at the top of the primary topic page indicating the existence of the other page. Since no discussion has occurred with respect to these articles, no evidence has been presented to upset the presumption that the longstanding page at this title is the primary topic of this title. Cheers! bd2412 T 14:10, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Coldcreation. Your requested move at Talk:Daniel Robbins#Requested move has run for seven days but is now up for closure. So far nobody but yourself has commented. If I were to close it now, most likely the result would be No Move, since the programmer Daniel Robbins has more than 250 incoming links on Wikipedia. This is not really a judgment on the world-historical importance of either person, but when there are only two people to be distinguished, putting a hatnote on the top of one of them is commonly done. Which one will get the unqualified name, and which one gets the hatnote, is negotiable but may not be a crucial decision. I also discussed this at User talk:BD2412#Talk:Daniel Robbins#Requested move. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 19:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
I would suggest relisting the discussion for another week, to be sure. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:17, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions. I don't think the number of incoming links should trump notability, so another week would probably be a good idea. Coldcreation (talk) 01:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

The Kiss[edit]

Thanks for pointing out the error in my poorly thought page-move. I felt the best way to correct it was a three-part move: I moved Rodin's sculpture back to "The Kiss (Rodin sculpture)", while moving, for consistency, Brâncuși's sculpture to "The Kiss (Brâncuși sculpture)". Meanwhile, I made "The Kiss (sculpture)" a disambiguation page. Please feel free to comment and/or fix/revert anything I may have screwed up. Thanks again! Joefromrandb (talk) 05:43, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

The works of Paul Dubois- French sculptor[edit]

Hi

Just to say that I appreciate your efforts in cleaning up my piece on Dubois. Never sure whether to put "musée" or "Musée"! Thanks again Weglinde (talk) 08:28, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Pablo Picasso[edit]

Hi, you undid my edit, saying "source needed for such a claim" [4]. WP:LEADCITE advises

Because the lead will usually repeat information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material.

The claim is supported by the sources in the body of the article. —rybec 11:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to revert my revert, but the list of things Picasso did is already extensive in the intro. He also enjoyed shooting photographs. But this fact and the ones you wrote are not the most important points covered in the article, which is the purpose of the lead. Perhaps the word artist is sufficient. Coldcreation (talk) 14:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The term "artist" encompasses all the other activities, but isn't usually understood to include writing. —rybec 21:20, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Arthur Dove[edit]

Your revert of my edits to Arthur Dove is in direct contracted with the policy-backed consensus at WP:NFCR. Regardless of whether there is a FUR, consensus determined that the images fail WP:NFCC and should therefore be removed. I do not care either way, I just made the close as an uninvolved editor. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:30, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I do care. These images need to be seen. Coldcreation (talk) 22:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
So, because YOU feel the images need to be seen, its okay to go against WP:CONSENSUS and WP:NFCC? -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
No need to scream. I will find more public domain images of this important artists works (published before 1923). Coldcreation (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
I do apologize for raising my caps; you are correct that was uncalled for. Also, I should have phrased it better, I do not care if the images are used. But I do care if policy is followed and consensus determined that those images did not. It looks like there are many many paintings by Dove that are in the public domain. The other option is to make the images not violate WP:NFCC (specifically #8) and gain consensus for their inclusion. As an outsider, it looks like there is no context of the Me and the Moon image in the infobox. Per WP:NFCC there must be critical commentary and there was none. For the other image (Nature Symbolized or Reefs) the article only discusses that he creates it. Point 8 of WP:NFCC requires that there be content in the article about the non-free images that requires the images be included. What this breaks down to is you don't need to see the image to know he painted it. But if there were content about the style he painted on that specific image, and why he painted, or the colors, etc, it would be necessary to the image being there. Good luck with whatever you choose to do. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Discussion moved to Talk:Arthur Dove. Coldcreation (talk) 22:53, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Coldcreation2[edit]

Does that account belong to you? Its user page says it does, but your user page doesn't mention the other account. See WP:SOCK#NOTIFY. —rybec 13:38, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes it does. See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Coldcreation2 and User:Coldcreation2 where it is mentioned (no puppetry involved) with a link to User:Coldcreation. I would love to have only one account (Coldcreation), and I thought I registered with Unified login (for Commons, Wikiquotes, etc. where I also contribute). For some reason when I edited French articles only my IP address showed up. If you know how to unify my accounts let me know. Coldcreation (talk) 14:10, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for answering. I meant that User:Coldcreation has no mention of the other account. WP:SOCK#NOTIFY point #2 recommends having links on both pages. The unified login doesn't always work for me, either. —rybec 16:19, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

About ARTUNAD (Gustave Miklos's page)[edit]

Hello Coldcreation,

I see you have canceled several times ARTUNAD's changes on Gustave Miklos's page. ARTUNAD was recently blocked 24h on French Wikipedia for vandalism and multiple passages strength. This is a repeat offender. Because of him, Heddryin put the blindfold R3R on Gustave Miklos's page (French Wikipedia). I quote Heddryin (28/11/2013) : "Malgré de nombreuses remarques de différents contributeurs, ARTUNAD continue à imposer son point de vue dans cet article. Le bandeau R3R est mis en place".

Its main source is the book of Mrs Danuta Cichocka (Gustave Miklos. Un Grand œuvre caché), published in September 2013 by her own publishing house (so without no review committee). This book was rejected as source on French Wikipedia because it has no reputation (it is just allowed to appear in the bibliography section).

You may also notice that A(r)TUNAD = DANUTA backwards. ARTUNAD looking to advertise Mrs Danuta Cichocka's book (600 copies, each of which costs 225 euros).

Warnings and blocking are shown here: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:ARTUNAD#Pas_une_source. So, your suspicious reaction is perfectly justified. Good day, BerAnth (talk) 10:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC). And thanks Google translate :o)

Merci, BerAnth (talk). I will go back to the English Gustave Miklos article and remove anything left behind by that user. Thanks for keeping me posted. Coldcreation (talk) 10:32, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Jacques Doucet and his hotel[edit]

Hi, would you like to add some text about Doucet's hotel to Jacques Doucet just to give the image a bit more context? As it currently stands, it is floating there, without contextualisation, and doesn't relate to anything currently in the article text. I nearly removed it as a good-faith edit, but thought I'd ask you first if you had any interest in expanding the article with a section about the hotel to contextualise it. I HAVE moved the image to the other side though, as it knocked the layout a bit out. All best, Mabalu (talk) 13:33, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Certainly. Thanks for contacting me first. As soon as I get a moment I will expand on the Doucet studio image.Coldcreation (talk) 13:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I added some info (much of it in the image caption already, now in the main body of text also), but will be back to elaborated further still later. Coldcreation (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Fantastic! Thanks so much. Mabalu (talk) 14:06, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

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Une étoile pour vous ![edit]

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thank you for your photographs, specially for Georges Braque. Lepetitlord (talk) 10:12, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Clyfford Still page[edit]

Hello, Coldcreation.

I work with the Clyfford Still Museum and have been attempting to strengthen the Clyfford Still wikipedia page. The times I have made edits, they have been deleted. Just know that we are gathering our references to make the content verifiable, and would appreciate some feedback or comments form you concerning the success of the page. Which parts need citations immediately, and which can be added after the skeleton of the page is fleshed out?

Thanks,

--CSMwikipage (talk) 17:22, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Hello CSMwikipage,
When making changes in the article, please briefly describe the changes you have made in the Edit summary (located towards the bottom of the page you are editing). Also, note that you can make changes and preview them before actually saving the page (by clicking on the Show preview button, next to Save). In this way you can make several changes before finally saving a number of changes. This will make it easier for other editors to view the changes you've made. If you feel some of your previous edits to the Clyfford Still article are worthy of retaining feel free to reintroduce the material, but be sure to provide sources and references. A final note, be careful not to remove references and sources linked to the material already in the article, as you did in this edit. Thanks, Coldcreation (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Song titles edits on Genesis page[edit]

I have changed back the edits you have made to song titles on the Genesis page. I think you will find on articles for many other acts that songs are in speech marks and album titles are in italics, so the Genesis article was correct and consistent with other pages before you made your changes.Rodericksilly (talk) 22:14, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. You did the right thing. I should have checked first. Thanks for pointing this out. Coldcreation (talk) 04:54, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

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Seurat[edit]

Hi, you appear to be a little trigger happy with your undo's at Georges Seurat. From the history, I can see there is a lot of vandalism and assorted nonsense going on, resulting in endless undos. Maybe you are not accustomed to seeing any constructive edits?

  • You removed sourced and perfectly referenced material
  • You removed an image which is actually discussed in the text and which depicts a person discussed in the text
  • You removed an image which illustrates his life/death
  • Your summary says: "Only major works". Since when? why? This is about an individual. Images illustrating subject's life are perfectly okay.
  • You earlier removed his (sourced) date of birth from his bio because it is "a repetition of the intro". An intro is a summary, a bio is supposed to be complete. As a result of your edit, Seurat's date of birth is currently unsourced again.

This article really needs some help (lots of unsourced material, errors, glaring omissions) and is rather poor for a major artist like this. I would be happy to help, but not like this. Cheers, Superp (talk) 06:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps you are correct. Though his birth dates is already mentioned twice in the article (lead and infobox). A third time may not be needed. No source for this date was removed. An image of his sepulture at Cimetière du Père-Lachaise is certainly not needed in the article (it neither illustrates his life or death). Imagine how many gravestone images would be found at Wikipedia if such were included in all article about dead people (or even half of them). In this case it adds nothing to the article. Feel free to add more material but make sure you provide sources. Coldcreation (talk) 07:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi again.
Summary: you complain about unsourced material, but I added none. You revert edits which add valid sources instead. Confusion ensues.
  • I actually bought this book (new, very well researched I think, great illustrations) partly because I thought it would be a valuable WP source. I came to this article because I think it could be better. Almost everything I did so far, though I referenced it down to the exact page number, was kicked out by you. Seeing my edits being reverted like this demotivates like hell.
  • As an aside, if you are an art lover and interested in Seurat c.s., get the book. ISBN 9789073313286. 
  • I have taken the time again to inspect every single edit I did, and can not find one bit that I did not ref. You keep talking about unsourced stuff. Can you please point out this alleged unsourced material, so I can improve my work method if needed? Please provide a link to the diff. Thank you.
  • Seurat's birthdate was unsourced. After my edit, it was sourced. Now, after your revert, it is unsourced again. How is this better?
  • The bit about Knoblock/Knobloch and their first child was unsourced. I added facts and a source, you reverted, so now we have unsourced text again and less facts. Why?
  • That's two fact/ref relations I added, you rev'd.
  • The tomb situation: you formulate a personal opinion as a fact. I think, on the other hand, the img brings across the time Seurat lived and his family background. Nothing wrong with feeding the other half of the brain. It's something we could discuss.
  • If you want me to contribute to the article, let me put this nicely, we have to work together in a different way. This is just frustrating and wasting my time.
Cheers and happy editing. Superp (talk) 13:05, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

This discussion is now moved to Georges Seurat (Talk). For any further discussion of the topic please refer to the Talk page in question. Coldcreation (talk) 14:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Soliciting comment...[edit]

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Henry Moore photo on the Modernism page[edit]

Hi. I'm Doug 4. I noticed that you reverted my photo change for the Henry Moore sculpture on the Modernism page. I agree that a bronze would be preferable to the white painted plaster, but the photo angle of that bronze sculpture doesn't give an adequate sense of the sculpture's form, which for me is what distinguishes his work. I was looking on Wikipedia for something more like "Reclining Mother and Child" (1960-1), but the "Reclining Figure" (1951) was the best I could find. Doug4 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:49, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Doug4, indeed, the white painted plaster is not typical of what one would expect of a work by Moore. However, at Wikimedia Commons, Henry Moore and also at Commons in the Category:Henry Moore there are quite a few bronzes that are exemplary of the artists works. Feel free to chose the one you think will fit best in the article. Best regards. Coldcreation (talk) 05:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello ColdCreation. I think this photo might be a better choice.
Reclining Figure (1957-1958) by Henry Moore in front of the Kunsthaus Zürich, Zürich, Switzerland.
What do you think?
Doug4 21:10, 15 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug4 (talkcontribs)
The sculpture looks good and is quite representative of the artists work. Though I wish the photographer would have cropped the background, or framed the sculpture a little closer during the photoshoot. I'll let you make the call. Best. Coldcreation (talk) 21:15, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I agree with your comments. I cropped the photo and inserted it in the Modernism article. I hope you approve. Cheers! Doug4 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:36, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Nice work Doug4. Coldcreation (talk) 04:13, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Monet[edit]

Yeah, saw that discussion now, but still, I think the pictures really is not quite enough to demonstrate Monet's diversity, and development. Many of them are the same: it's all water-lilies and ponds and bridges and and La Gare Saint-Lazare... it is getting close to a kind of clichés. Actually same with van Gogh too, he made so many paintings that are airy, using pinks and light blues -and NOT always the strong colours he is known for. Anyway - Monet has many less iconic, but wonderful pictures worth showing - don't want to create the idea that Monet=water lillies. Maybe it will be an an other article, if there is no place for them there. Hafspajen (talk) 19:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC).

I fully understand your point and sympathize with you. However, this discussion should take place on the Monet Talk page rather than here. That will likely be another heated debate within which I will gladly participate. Cheers. Coldcreation (talk) 20:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Rodin's signature[edit]

Sorry about that - I didn't see that there was already another very similar image. Thanks for noticing. Perhaps the image I was inserting is a clearer one, so maybe it should be swapped in to the place where the other rodin-signature is now? Wittylama 15:24, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Article for Le Monde about Paris[edit]

Hi. My name is Eric Albert. I am a journalist working for Le Monde You can see my articles on this page I am contacting you as I am going to write an article about the interesting debate regarding the Paris page on Wikipedia in English, especially about the question of the Defense photo. I stumbled upon it by chance, researching something completely different but find the dispute very interesting. It raises interesting questions about the image of Paris but also about who decides what on Wikipedia. Would it be possible to talk to you about it, as you have contributed to the page? Sorry if it is not the right place to contact you, I am not a Wikipedia editor and not used to its internal system, although I did write a story about Wikipedia (behind a paywall) during the last Wikimedia conference in London (I am based in London). Many thanks. Eric Albert Londres (talk) 16:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Eric Albert Londres, I will gladly participate. I would also contact ThePromenader at his Talk page, as he, perhaps more so than anyone else, has been dealing with this for some time; he is well aware of the subject matter and the problems related to it. If you would like to send us an email (with your contact coordinates), feel free to follow these simple instructions.

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Sistine Chapel edits[edit]

Hi CC. I noticed you've reverted recent vandalism to Sistine Chapel. Not sure if its on your watchlist or whether you were just recent edits patrolling at the time. I thought I should let you know that I've requested pending changes protection to reduce the level of vandalism. To approve edits you would need the reviewer right. If you have any ongoing interest in the article you may want to request it. Cheers, Stlwart111 05:33, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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Suspected work of Miklos on your page[edit]

Hi, I regret informing you that the big image (Totem) illustrating the english page of Gustave Miklos, this image is not included in his Catalogue raisonné (publishing 2014). So is not the work of Miklos. It will be more careful to remove it. Contact me if you need the assistant to make the new choice because unfortunatly for this artist, on Web and Wikimedia Communs, we find more of falses than of the originals works of Miklos. Best, Artunad — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARTUNAD (talkcontribs) 15:12, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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Auguste[edit]

Saw you were editing Rosa Bonheur a lot. Do you think you know any facts that you could add to Auguste Bonheur? It's new. Hafspajen (talk) 11:50, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I'll see what I can find. Thanks for the notification. Coldcreation (talk) 12:21, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

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I have just blocked Minato ku (talk · contribs) for a clear 3RR-violation on Paris, but I have to warn you too – while you didn't get beyond the count of 3, you too were clearly edit-warring, and I cannot think that the POV and sourcing issue you were disagreeing over with Minato ku was of such a kind that blanket reverts (rather than, for instance, attempts at compromise edits or edits synthesizing both sets of statements in question) would have been the only solution, so this was clearly not constructive behaviour on either side. Fut.Perf. 21:05, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Gauguin[edit]

Modernist has conveyed a willingness to finish what we started on Gauguin, possibly this coming week. Check out Talk:Paul Gauguin and my sandbox for more. Nonc01 (talk) 16:47, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Since you suggested paring down the correspondence section of the draft, I was wondering if you had a preference in mind, such as removing one or abridging the longest ones? Nonc01 (talk) 02:27, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Paris tourism statistics[edit]

Dear Coldcreation: I really appreciate your edits and careful work on the Paris article; you're one of the few calm voices on the project. I did notice that for the tourism statistics, you link to the 2013 report from the Visitor and Convention Bureau, which gives 2012 figures. Did you know that the 2014 report is on line, with the 2013 figures? You can find it on the Convention and Tourism site. Please keep up the good work! SiefkinDR (talk) 12:11, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that SiefkinDR. I had a feeling the updated version might be online but didn't have time to search for it. I will now. Coldcreation (talk) 12:33, 25 November 2014 (UTC
Dear Coldcreation,
I would like to add my thanks to the above by SiefkinDR: as a result of your bringing in these references, hard work of many hours by THEPROMENADER   , Siefkin & a couple others will not be contested & automatically removed. You're cool!
Au revoir! --Blue Indigo (talk) 13:17, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Rrose Sélavy[edit]

Indeed, the image you reverted to is better. But its PD status is more than doubtful. See here. Cheers, — Racconish 📥 11:57, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

I saw that. Perhaps I will upload that image to wiki as Non-free media with a use rationale for a couple of articles. That image needs to be seen. Coldcreation (talk) 12:10, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes and no. Initially, I thought like you. But if we have a decent PD image, do we really need a fair use one ? I leave it up to you... Cheers, — Racconish 📥 13:20, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holiday[edit]

Thanks for all your hard work...Modernist (talk) 13:35, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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For a multitude of contributions to subjects in the fine arts...Modernist (talk) 13:35, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
I thank you very much Modernist. This is highly appreciated, especially so since it comes from you. Coldcreation (talk) 13:45, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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External media?[edit]

Noticed you removed a lot of them. Is there any reason behind it? I know Smallbones dislike them, but I think they do add to the articles. If there is any discussion on it I want to add it there too. Hafspajen (talk) 14:22, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing up this issue Hafspajen. I would love to know where this can be discussed. The problem with those external media Smarthistory videos, and their respective templates, is that they are all too often placed within the main body of text of a given article. They belong in External links. Occasionally, they reproduce images that are already in an article. In addition, Smarthistory adds references to these videos that appear in the Reference section of the article, when they are not at all references for the article content. The result of the latter is that the word Smarthistory appears 10 or more times within a given article (always bluelinked). This, and the placing of the templates within the main text, is a spam-like tactic probably used to drum up business for Smarthistory. This type of vandalism (or at least it can be seen as such) needs to stop. Whereas a small block of links in the External links section of an article, where I've place some of these templates, is eventually acceptable, the vast majority of smarthistory templates are still located scattered throughout the main body of text in many articles still. Coldcreation (talk) 14:44, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
Ah, I get that now. OK, thanks for the explanation. I guess where the only problem is that it is the same picture, we could just change the image, (if that's the main problem in some places, not the overlink). Hafspajen (talk) 15:41, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
That's not the main problem. The main problem is the placement of large External media infoboxes in the main article or See also sections, rather than where it belongs, in the External link section; in addition to the problem of over-linking the name Smarthistory, and the abuse of references relating to Smarthistory. Are you the editor who has added these templates everywhere? Coldcreation (talk) 16:45, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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well you certainly are[edit]

a gentleman and a scholar. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 23:03, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Carptrash. :-) Coldcreation (talk) 23:08, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Racial Implications[edit]

This discussion has been moved to Talk:Les Demoiselles d'Avignon. Coldcreation (talk) 14:57, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization[edit]

Your reverts [5] and [6] contradict MOS:CAPS. Namely, MOS:DOCTCAPS and MOS:GENRECAPS. The general rule "consistently capitalized in sources" does not apply either, since dictionaries do not capitalize these terms (at most, they sometimes say: "often capitalized"), and there is no rational reason to do so. — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 01:28, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

I know the general rules linked above and understand them perfectly well. Art movements, however, are somewhat of an exception. Most of the relevant literature (in art related books, museums and so on) capitalizes art movements. For this reason, Wikipedia users accustomed to writing and editing articles within the scope of WikiProject Visual arts tend to write art movements begin with a capital letters. Thanks for your understanding. Coldcreation (talk) 18:21, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Can you please explain why this exception is needed? And why, for example, you did not capitalize "pointillism"? — Mikhail Ryazanov (talk) 23:33, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Sure Mikhail Ryazanov. Pointillism is a technique of painting used by the Neo-Impressionists. Techniques of painting are not capitalized. The Divisionists, too, used a similar technique of patterns to form images, though with larger cube-like brushstrokes. That is not very clear in the article about pointillism, but I will modify that text shortly. Finally, whether capitalization is needed or not for art movements I do not know. But in the art world that is the rule, rather than the exception. Coldcreation (talk) 03:28, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Something beautiful for the holidays[edit]

Rollback[edit]

I don't get your point on the incident page - I did not complain about the image, I complained about the behaviour. You cannot roll someone back for good faith edits even if you are "guarding" a page. Can you explain more on the page? Hekerui (talk) 09:20, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes Hekerui, I have just done so. Coldcreation (talk) 09:28, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. Hekerui (talk) 09:32, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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Met Museum page[edit]

Your UNDO of another user's edits looks terrible on high resolution / wide format displays.

Please alternate the images so they do not stack up (ie., Arms and Armor should not display with Arts of Africa) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luxdsg (talkcontribs) 19:06, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

You must be mistaking me for another user. If not, link the revert to which you refer. Coldcreation (talk) 21:47, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Jean-Baptiste Martin[edit]

His name was already in that article, I just made sure that it would link to mine. If you're sure that he wasn't represented there, by all means, delete him. WQUlrich (talk) 21:20, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks WQUlrich. It's not a problem, I was just wondering, as I would love to read more about the exhibition. Coldcreation (talk) 21:25, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Also, I would like to find out which Huet was exhibited: Paul Huet or Jean-Baptiste Huet. Coldcreation (talk) 21:28, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I see...maybe some confusion (although the link leads to Paul Huet). The placement of Martin's name does make it look like an afterthought, and he's not really as notable as the others (and somewhat earlier). Maybe it's in that reference #4?. It seems to be the basis for the article. WQUlrich (talk) 21:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I was just looking at your user page. When it comes to art, I'm the one who should be asking you questions!!. I've done almost four-hundred articles on relatively obscure painters (most of whom I had never heard of before) but it's just something I came up with to kill time and keep my brain working (I'm retired). Suggestions, comments and criticism are welcomed. WQUlrich (talk) 21:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Superb images. Thank you so much. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 00:49, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much Mary Mark Ockerbloom. I do appreciate the star. Come back in a few days... many more images are on there way to Wiki (all published before 1923 of course). :-) Coldcreation (talk) 09:20, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Wonderful! I'm particularly interested in images relating to works by women in the 1913 Armory show, so I particularly appreciated finding Marie Laurencin. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 13:10, 5 February 2015 (UTC)
I just discovered a few more works by Laurencin (today) that were published in 1913. I will be posting those soon. Coldcreation (talk) 18:52, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

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Totem by Miklos[edit]

Hello Coldcreation, "Totem" is not included in Catalogue raisonné of his painting. It will be better to erase it or to change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.89.75.248 (talk) 16:33, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Provenance: Mme Marie-Louise Miklos, épouse de l'artiste. Take it up on the Gustave Miklos Talk page. Coldcreation (talk) 18:15, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

The Street Enters the House[edit]

Sorry, I reverted you. The new picture was an accurate scan from a modern book. It is the original that was not correct. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:21, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I've just uploaded and posted an image of the painting with more accurate colors. That previous image from a book is far too saturated. Oil paints do not exist in those colors. Coldcreation (talk) 11:43, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
It's still better than the previous one. And far higher res. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:45, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Rosa Bonheur[edit]

  • Adam Cuerden will make an attempt to feature the portrait of Rosa Bonheur.
Just letting you know it because you are the main editor on the article. This is why he put the image in the infobox, because it will give it a better chance, and he will now start working on the image restoration. Hope it is OK? Also see my talk. Hafspajen (talk) 10:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Ok, excellent. I just removed one row of black pixels from bottom and right of the that photo. These pixels were not needed in the image and in fact were a distraction. They were visible at ordinary scale as thin black lines. Now they are no longer. Coldcreation (talk) 11:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Hafspajen, I just checked the original source of the photo, the black pixels are not there, so it must have been an artifact that came with the capturing of the image. Coldcreation (talk) 11:19, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
That was, of course, going to be part of the restoration. Let's leave the crop for now, but we'll want to revert it eventually, as the original image linked to should be the original, after all, not a modification. =)
[Added after edit conflict] That said, I wish Hafspajen wouldn't make everything justified solely by FPs; there's far better reasons than that for the change, and I think "I want an FP for the article" is, generally speaking, a weak argument if not backed by other reasons. The Legion of Honour photo, while good in the abstract, is a small half-toned rather faded copy. I think it's generally better to lead with your best image (it encourages clicking through, for instance, as if they see the first image is good, they're more likely to check the others. In this case, the best image is either the Klumpke painting, or the Disdéri photo; all other things being equal, I prefer the camera, as artistic portraits can be a little inaccurate. We also have a section on her gaining the Legion of Honour which I originally put said Legion of Honour photo as near as possible to. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
As stated above, the rows of black pixels on the bottom and right of the image (now removed) are not present in the source image. And so no need to revert back to them. Coldcreation (talk) 11:28, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
It's because of a flaw in the JPEG codec. Progressive saving as JPEG degrades an image, so I'll be editing from the one nearest the original capture, repeating your crop. But restoration requires documenting exactly what you used as your source. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
You sort out image guys. Adam, let me just say a word= Pedro. Coldcreation is an excellent editor, very reasonable and it is fair to involve him in this decision. Hafspajen (talk) 11:31, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Also, Coldcreation - Adam has like 100 images that were FP nominated and passed, if anyone he will succeded to fix this. Hafspajen (talk) 11:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I perfectly agree, Hafs. I'm just explaining JPEG's lossy nature to him, as the reasons for not keeping the crop are nothing to do with the merits of the crop - which is 100% justified - but because JPEG is lossy, and I need to have the exact file I worked from uploaded, which has to be the least edited copy to avoid JPEG's progressive degredation. Really, Google Art Project captures should be PNGs. I didn't think I was having a fight with Coldstream... Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:37, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Let me know if you need any help restoring the image, and link me to the nomination once it's up. Coldcreation (talk) 11:40, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Sure! Oh, and on a very, very related subject, I nominated the painting. It's a good painting. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:42, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I rather think Adam Cuerden, that if you should co-nom it - it should be with Coldcreation, not me. He should be the one credited too. Face-smile.svg He was involved with specifically the image before. I just put that into the article. Hafspajen (talk) 14:21, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Cubist Painters, Aesthetic Meditations[edit]

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Marie Laurencin[edit]

This entry was for a school project. Please allow it to stay up for at least 2 weeks because my professor needs to check that I did the assignment. Fix it if you must after that date. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southshoresiren (talkcontribs) 00:02, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

In 20 minutes you could have that text all fixed up. See The Cubist Painters, Aesthetic Meditations if you need further citations.There are plenty there that discuss Laurencin. (To see how to post citations, click on edit). Just make sure non of what you write is your personal opinion, without having a source to back it up. Then post it on the Laurencin page. I look forward to reading it. Coldcreation (talk) 04:25, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Cubist_Painters,_Aesthetic_Meditations&diff=next&oldid=650887108[edit]

Hi, Coldcreation, please take a look at image sizes. In general, do not use px without very good reason. Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 11:51, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

US PD[edit]

Hi, I put an explanation up at Talk:Paul Klee. Respond there if you want. Regards Hekerui (talk) 13:48, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Frida Kahlo[edit]

I hate to say this, but I think that not italicizing the newspapers, but italicizing the article titles is wrong. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:04, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

You're entitled to your opinion. However, as explained in the edit summary, consistency with the Bibliography section is the key. Many (unfortunately not all) of the citations are written this way too. Coldcreation (talk) 05:11, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

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Čiurlionis[edit]

Coldcreation, I don't understand the reason for your revert of my edit at Mikalojus Konstantinas Čiurlionis. On my screen, a separation between A Day and the gallery turns the gallery into five lines of five pics each, whereas on my screen your revert makes it 3-5-5-5-5-2.

I know Hafs uses a wider screen than my so-called 'standard screen,' so that may be part of the explanation – ?? Sca (talk) 14:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Huh? Coldcreation is a friend of mine, who was just trying to help, did nothing but revert to pre-Lotje version, as it was before.
Hafs! I wasn't being hostile. Just asking. Sca (talk)

I don't really know why is that happened on your screen ... I thought we were happy with that version. Could be that a painting crashing the gallery 3+2 under sounds like it, I will now try clear. Hafspajen (talk) 14:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

  • How's now?
Yes, looks fine here. Thanks – and sorry if someone took the question the wrong way.
(I'm not acquainted with the references problem.) Sca (talk) 15:44, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I've never seen that spacer - thing before (I have nothing against it though), but yes, my revert was primarily for the references, they were fine before Lotje's intervention. Lotje's semi-automated reference aid makes a mess of perfectly fine references. For some reason Lotje calls them bare references, or bare links, which they are not at all. I've reverted several of Lotje's edits in other articles as well, for the same reason. Coldcreation (talk) 14:43, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

About that comment on images and galleries[edit]

Images in the gallery collectively do have encyclopedic value and add to the reader's understanding of the subject. Galleries are not discuraged. Please see also this discussion here, Talk:Charles Marion Russell.

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Images are typically interspersed individually throughout an article near the relevant text (see WP:MOSIMAGES). However, the use of a gallery section may be appropriate in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images. The images in the gallery collectively must have encyclopedic value and add to the reader's understanding of the subject.


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If someone is not familiar with image policy, shouldn't edit art articles, and I am seriously considering having a conference with all our regular art editors about hyow to handle this disuption the above mentioned editor is causing on art articles. Maybe on Wikiproject. Noticed she was tring to cause disruption on The Cubist Painters, Aesthetic Meditations this time. Before it was here and here. See previous discussions (water of a duck's back) both here and here page. And pretending she has no idea about it. Hafspajen (talk) 14:37, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I'm more concerned with her use of the semi-automated program Li/reFill to change perfectly fine references to nonsense. Coldcreation (talk) 14:51, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, more nonsense. Hafspajen (talk) 16:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

well deserved[edit]

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For all your work on the visual arts and imagery...Modernist (talk) 14:57, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Modernist. Something has only just begun. Many more images are on the way... Coldcreation (talk) 15:08, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Keep em coming...Modernist (talk) 15:49, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Indeed. One more barnstar for you![edit]

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For all your work on the visual arts and imagery. This barnstar is awarded to recognize particularly fine contributions to Wikipedia, to let people know that their hard work is seen and appreciated. Hafspajen (talk) 16:43, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

That was a nice surprise! Thanks Hafspajen. Coldcreation (talk) 08:52, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

But I can notice it everywhere... on art articles... Hafspajen (talk) 17:20, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

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Thomas Cromwell[edit]

Hello, Coldcreation - I've been reading the article on Thomas Cromwell and have come across a curious sentence. It's in the paragraph in Thomas Cromwell#Hans Holbein portraits:

  • In the New York Frick Collection, two portraits by Holbein hang facing each other on the same wall of the Living Hall, one depicting Thomas Cromwell, the other Thomas More, whose execution he had procured.

I'm trying to figure out how two portraits could face each other but be hung on the same wall. The only thing I can think of is that the wall is curved. Do you have any way of checking this? CorinneSD (talk) 04:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi CorinneSD, Looking in google images, it look like the two portraits are profiles (almost), so that the two subjects appear to look towards each other, even though on the same wall. In addition, it does look like the wall is slightly curved. :-) Coldcreation (talk) 05:15, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I found it! You're right! It said Henry Frick had a sense of humor in placing the two paintings like that. CorinneSD (talk) 23:41, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Théophile Gautier[edit]

Hello, Coldcreation - I thought French last names starting with "de" or "du" generally were not capitalized (the "de" or "du", I mean), or is that an individual choice? In the article on Théophile Gautier most names do not have the "de" or "du" capitalized, but in the fifth paragraph in Théophile Gautier#Life and times I found "Jehan Du Seigneur", and in the section Théophile Gautier#Influences, I found "Maxime Du Camp", who has an article, and in that article the "Du" is capitalized. It just looks strange. CorinneSD (talk) 23:34, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi CorinneSD, I was under the same impression as you. In the French wiki articles for both Jehan Du Seigneur and Maxime Du Camp, the Du is capitalized. I can only assume this is correct. At French wiki they are very strict about capitalization. Nothing is capitalized unless it needs to be. For example, a recent article I wrote, The Cubist Painters, Aesthetic Meditations, was partially translated and posted at French wiki, titled Les Peintres cubistes. Méditations esthétiques, even though the original publication uses Caps. Those are the règles de typographie they use. I'm still not sure why "Du" should be capitalized though. :-) Coldcreation (talk) 04:44, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Please consider entering the discussion.[edit]

Dear Coldcreation, for the WIKIPEDIA article on Abstract Expressionism to present a list of 100 artists as being: Significant artists whose mature work defined American Abstract Expressionism seems to be grossly overstated and very subjective, without presenting anything to validate the statement. Note that Albert Alcalay, Charles Alston, Alice Baber, William Baziotes, Norman Bluhm, Louise Bourgeois, Ernest Briggs, James Brooks, Fritz Bultman, Jack Bush, and Alexander Calder and many more on the list cannot be considered as Major Abstract Expressionist Artists whose mature work defined American Abstract Expressionism. Calder belonged to the “Kinetic Art Movement” and the others played no significant role and were minor contributors to the Abstract Expressionist Movement. Because only a small number of the 100 artists on the list actually defined AAE, I requested (on the Talk Page of the Article) that the introduction to the “List of abstract expressionists Major Artists” be changed to read: "Significant artists some of whose major work helped to define American Abstract Expressionism. Please consider entering this discussion as I believe this needs to be corrected. (I do thank you, for "correcting" me, and now I believe something else need to be corrected.) Sirswindon (talk) 22:49, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Joseph Halévy[edit]

I was just skimming the article on Joseph Halévy when I saw "Ecoles des Hautes Etudes" at the end of the third paragraph. Don't "Ecole" and "Etudes" need accents over the initial "e"? CorinneSD (talk) 22:18, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes indeed CorinneSD. Good catch. I've already corrected it to École pratique des hautes études. This is the same school, according to the French article on Joseph Halévy. Coldcreation (talk) 09:25, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
I see that you've already corrected it. Does that mean that the French do not capitalize all the main words of the name of an institution, as we do in English? If so, that's surprising to me. CorinneSD (talk) 21:54, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Exactly CorinneSD. And it's strange to me too. Our norms are different. We like Caps. That's why we insist on writing for example Musée d'Art Moderne de la Ville de Paris, even though the French write Musée d'art moderne de la ville de Paris. If it's in the middle of a sentence it would be musée d'art moderne de la ville de Paris, with a lowercase "m". Coldcreation (talk) 04:01, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Wow. Interesting. Well, regarding the use of caps, English is about half-way between French and German, isn't it? Don't the Germans use more caps than we do? Regarding the French preference for lower-case, I wonder where that preference stems from. Could it be a reaction against official-looking and -sounding things after the French Revolution? Or could it be a holdover from Latin? Does Latin use upper and lower case, or does it have only one case? CorinneSD (talk) 17:30, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Not sure about German or Latin. Nor about the history of the French lexicon regarding upper- and lowercase. Also strange are the quote marks used in French, such as « these ». Or even spacing when writing divers punctuation, such as : I tried looking into the history of these orthographic et typographic conventions, which differ in Canada by the way, and found little. I think these norms go back to the Middle Ages, and then the time of the first printing presses (with led letters and wooden case boxes), and now depend on the Référence Lexique des règles typographiques en usage à l'Imprimerie nationale. To confuse further, there is also a difference between uppercase (majuscule) and capital letters in French. Coldcreation (talk) 04:41, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
What? What's the difference between uppercase and capital letters (in French)? That's a new one to me. Did you know why letters are called upper case and lower case? You probably do. The upper case, or drawer, of the cabinet that held the lead letters for hand typesetting contained the capital letters and the lower case held the small letters. As I understand it, German nouns are normally capitalized. See German orthography#Spelling of nouns. CorinneSD (talk) 23:31, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes CorinneSD, Capitale et majuscule are not the same thing in French (nor in English by the way). Majuscules are bigger. For example: « LONGTEMPS MARCEL S’EST COUCHÉ DE BONNE HEURE » is written in capital letters, but the first "L" and the "M" of Marcel are in majuscule. Written with a computer they all look alike, however, this phrase should look like this: « Longtemps Marcel s’est couché de bonne heure ». An example in English: I LIKE CorinneSD BECAUSE SHE IS VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THINGS, should appear as: I like CorinneSD because she is very curious about things. :-) Coldcreation (talk) 04:46, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Oh... Interesting. I always thought the French word "majuscule" meant "capital [letter]". It is a French word, and I haven't heard it used in English. How would you express it in English? Typographers probably have a word or phrase for it. If "majuscule" (in French) does not mean "capital letter" (to the French), do they have another word for "capital letter"? Maybe this style (the style of your examples) is more common in French. We don't see it very often in English. CorinneSD (talk) 14:12, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

George Santayana[edit]

I've just started reading the article on George Santayana. I wonder if you could find a better illustration for a section. See my comment at Talk:George Santayana#Illustration. CorinneSD (talk) 22:21, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Soldier at a Game of Chess[edit]

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Académie de La Palette[edit]

Hello Coldcreation, I'm writing to you about your article on the Académie de La Palette.I have gathered from family sources that my grand-father Raymond Colin (1886-1929), who was a painter, was for a very short time director of La Palette, in the first half of 1914. This assumption is based on the fact that his address at that time was 18 rue du Val-de-Grâce, where the Académie de La Palette was located, and his occupation is stated in an official document as "directeur d'une académie de peinture". His wife also received in the spring of 1914 a postcard send to "Madame Colin, La Palette, rue du Val-de-Grâce, Paris". And although Raymond Colin never became famous, and never departed from figurative painting, he was well acquainted with Dunoyer de Segonzac and Mondrian, among others. Now my question is, have you by any chance ever come across Raymond Colin's name in any documents related to La Palette? Best regards. Acdtfr (talk) 15:37, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello Acdtfr, I've heard much more about Paul Colin than Raymond Colin. Is there any relation? I'll have to do some research to see what I can find on Raymond Colin. Perhaps you could write a Wiki article on the topic of your grand-father. I for one would be very interested. Coldcreation (talk) 04:52, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Hello Coldcreation, Thank you for your answer. Raymond Colin has no connection whatsoever with Paul Colin. I'm actually trying to write some sort of biography on Raymond Colin, but it will take me months, if not years, to complete it. The same goes for a Wiki article. Briefly, Raymond Colin, who was born in Lavaur (Tarn), stayed in Holland during First Wolrd War. His wife was a Dutch pianist who performed first under the name of Mies Penning, then Marie Colin, playing solo or with the Trio Parisien. After the war, they moved into a studio in the Cité Nicolas Poussin, 242 boulevard Raspail, in Paris. Raymond died while staying in Barcelona and, after his death, Marie Colin organised some small scale art exhibitions in the studio. Afterwards, she broke up with the painting milieu, but remained a friend of Conrad Kickert until his death. A short article on Raymond Colin can be found in the Dutch newspaper Nieuwe Rotterdamsche Courant http://www.delpher.nl/nl/kranten/results?coll=ddd&query=%22Raymond+Colin%22&cql[]=%28date+_gte_+%2201-01-1923%22%29&cql[]=%28date+_lte_+%2231-12-1923%22%29. Acdtfr (talk) 10:09, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for that information. I'll check out the link, and see what else I can find. Coldcreation (talk) 10:26, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

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Cancelled modification about Archipenko[edit]

Hi Coldcreation ! May I ask you why you removed the picture I have added on the Archipenko article ? I am a beginner here but I thought I had followed the rules and instructions properly... Thank you. --Marianne-Liem (talk) 14:52, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes sure Marianne-Liem. I removed the image of that sculpture from the Alexander Archipenko article, because the sculpture is not by Archipenko. It is by Jacques Lipchitz. Also, some of the images you've uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, by artists who died less than 71 years ago (such as Jean Metzinger, Fernand Léger and Lipchitz), should have been uploaded to Wikipedia, not Commons. Coldcreation (talk) 17:32, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

All right, thank you for such information, and sorry for that mistake ! I will look at that aspect more closely from now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marianne-Liem (talkcontribs) 19:23, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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Blaise Pascal[edit]

I've been reading the article on Blaise Pascal and I've come across something I'd like to ask you about. It's in the last sentence in the section Blaise Pascal#The ''Provincial Letters'':

  • The Provincial Letters also received praise. For example, Charles Perrault wrote of the Letters: "Everything is there—purity of language, nobility of thought, solidity in reasoning, finesse in raillery, and throughout an agrément not to be found anywhere else."

I wasn't sure of the meaning of agrément, so I used the Google translation feature, and it gave just one word, "approval". But, to me, "approval" doesn't quite make sense in this sentence, and I was wondering if you could provide a better translation. CorinneSD (talk) 00:13, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi CorinneSD, the word is related to pleasure or satisfaction, but I would have to read the French sentence to be sure. Literally, it could mean congeniality, amenity, approval, acclaim, endorsement, approbation, authorization, pleasantness, congeniality, niceness, or amenity, depending on the context. (See here). In the past, I've found translations, even in books published by the most reputable historians, where the meaning of the sentence turned out to mean the exact opposite of what was meant in French. So I will try to find the original sentence and get back to you, to confirm either way. Coldcreation (talk) 04:16, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Well, I found the original version of Volume 2, 3 and 4. Vol 1, cited in the article, appears more difficult to find. So in the absence of the original text, I would say the word agrément in this case means pleasantness or geniality. Coldcreation (talk) 05:08, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Coldcreation! I think you're right. Either of those would fit perfectly. CorinneSD (talk) 13:11, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

File:Georges Braque, 1922, Paris, photograph by Man Ray..jpg[edit]

@Coldcreation:, I was wondering why that non-free image differs from these ones. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 04:49, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Lotje. Images of works by Man Ray (photographs, paintings, assemblages, etc) are still under copyright protection, unless otherwise published prior to 1923. To the best of my knowledge, the photo of Braque was not published before 1923. Some of the photos of Duchamp by Man Ray were indeed. Unless explicitly stated, by cc 2.0 or 3.0 exceptions, such as the image of Erik Satie at Gallica, Bibliothèque nationale de France, listed as domaine public, and perhaps the portrait of William Zorach from the Library of Congress ("No known restrictions on publication"), Man Ray's works should generally not be uploaded to Commons. Coldcreation (talk) 05:13, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Note: some of the photos of Duchamp by Man Ray probably should have been uploaded to Wikipedia U.S. (if published before 1923), rather than Commons, unless there is proof of no copyright restriction in the source country (France). Coldcreation (talk) 05:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, that answers my question. imo, this is a perfect example of how these copyright laws in Europe screw up logical uploading. In fact, on the German wikipedia, there is even an open letter from Wikipedia to the members of the European Parliament to maintain the FOP, which, somehow proves, the copyright issues should be seen within a global use and not being restricted as it is now. Knowledge should not have frontiers, not even on the internet. Face-smile.svg Lotje (talk) 12:02, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

John Mandeville[edit]

Hello, Coldcreation - I'm reading the article on John Mandeville, and I've come across what look like two French names: "Johains a le Barbe or Jehan a la Barbe" in the section John Mandeville#Contemporary corroboration. I wondered why there was no accent on the "a". Should there be? Or did they not use accents at that time? CorinneSD (talk) 22:40, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes CorinneSD, another good catch. There should be an accent on the "a", à la barbe. And it's not le barbe, it's la barbe. Accents were used back then (though much was written in Latin). Even had they not, today it should be written correctly. Coldcreation (talk) 03:41, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll make the corrections. CorinneSD (talk) 15:11, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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French titles in French[edit]

Bonjour Cold Creation, Although I usually agree with your editing interventions - you're sharp! - I do not agree here:( A title in original language used in a foreign text has to respect the spelling etc. of the original. Please give me the rule why Salon d'automne in French must be written Salon d'Automne in a text in English. Cordialement, --Blue Indigo (talk) 13:29, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Bonjour Blue Indigo, the name Salon d'Automne, just as Salon des Indépendants and innumerable other terms, titles, names, etc.), even though French, when written in English are capitalized. This standard operating procedure is practiced by museums, curators, auction houses, galleries, critics, art historians, English wiki editors, and so on. See too, for example, the French website (in english) for this salon: Société du Salon d'Automne. Coldcreation (talk) 01:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Moved discussion to Talk:Salon d'Automne. Coldcreation (talk) 01:56, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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Mathematics and art[edit]

Moved discussion to Talk:Mathematics and art. Coldcreation (talk) 11:58, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

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Oviri (Gauguin)‎[edit]

Hi. Thanks for all the help, and I see your name against many of the original file uploads. Impressed. Ceoil (talk) 06:46, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

To say thanks for all the edits, tunes and help; the page has come on a lot. Am I right, can you see, about the locations of the two other versions cast by Gaugain? Private collections as far as I can make out; and both changed hands recently. Ceoil (talk) 17:28, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Excellent question. I'm not sure where these casts are now. During public auctions they were not necessarily acquired by private collectors. Museums, galleries, public and private institutions, and so on, also bid on lots that may interest them. Sometimes the identity of buyers is disclosed (other times not). Until the current whereabouts of these cast are known, it would be imprudent to assume they were purchased by private collectors. But it's even more complicated than that. This cast of Oviri, for example, is documented as forming part of the Fondation Beyeler, Riehen (2015). But I found no record of it in the collection of works at Fondation Beyeler. That is not to say it's not there. But it may have already changed hands. I hope this helps. Coldcreation (talk) 17:59, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, after close examination, that Artsy/ Beyeler photo is the Orsay version. It was there for an exhibition (listed in the Oviri article under Recent exhibitions). Let me see what I can find about the other versions. It may take a couple of days. Coldcreation (talk) 18:04, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, helps a lot. Also, not seeing any rush needed here. Ceoil (talk) 18:38, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

I guess he doesn't like the French[edit]

I thought you might enjoy reading the latest entries in this discussion on Talk:Saxons [11] and, of course, the edit just before this one by the same editor. Corinne (talk) 00:00, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

That's just entertainingly silly. Thanks for the link Corinne. I might join the discussion if (s)he persists. Coldcreation (talk) 05:10, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Fluxus[edit]

Hi Coldcreation. Not quite sure what you were doing here; you put back in a mistake in an ISBN i had corrected, and added back a whole lot of Unicode control characters, which i had also removed, and unformatted the poem from blockquote. Is there a reason you think we should not be formatting the quote according to the MOS guidelines? Apart from anything else, it does display better with blockquote.... Cheers, LindsayHello 21:44, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello Lindsay. The problem is that your edit modified something that made all the headers and subheaders appear in the article like this ===Utopian communities=== (showing ===), while they disappeared from the Index. If you can fix that problem feel free to do so. I was unable, so I reverted. Coldcreation (talk) 02:38, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
How strange. It didn't display that way for me...i'll take a look in a couple of minutes and see if i can work out what happened. Cheers, LindsayHello 14:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
I think i've sorted it; take a look, let me know if it's displaying incorrectly for you again? Cheers, LindsayHello 14:52, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
You solved the problem. It looks good. Thanks. Coldcreation (talk) 16:21, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

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Paul Gauguin[edit]

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Thank you Ceoil. Nice barnstar!!! Coldcreation (talk) 14:40, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

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MET museum size[edit]

Hello, I've seen you reverted my changes. I have made an argument in the Edit section which I invite you to read. The actual numbers given on the encyclopedia are proven to be untrue and thus cannot be maintained. What do you think we should do, since we do not have a single source (a single link) but a logical deduction based on several links ? --LinguisticStudent (talk) 17:34, 12 November 2015 (UTC) LinguisticStudent

LinguisticStudent, the link you provided states the size of one wing of the museum: the Hellenistic, Etruscan, and Roman galleries (housing over 5,300 objects in more than 30,000 square feet). This is only a small section of the entire museum. Coldcreation (talk) 18:01, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
This is the old version of my argument...--LinguisticStudent (talk) 18:44, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

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Happy Holidays[edit]

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Season's greetings!
I hope this holiday season is festive and fulfilling and filled with love and kindness, and that 2016 will be successful and rewarding...Modernist (talk) 23:39, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Modernist, and best wishes to you for a prosperous 2016 full of health, wealth and wisdom. Coldcreation (talk) 07:14, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Best wishes for the holidays...[edit]

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Thank you Hafspajen. The Champagne certainly poured, and I hope it will for you all year long... :-) Coldcreation (talk) 07:17, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Passenger pigeon[edit]

Hello, Coldcreation! Happy New Year! I have just started to read the article on the Passenger pigeon, in response to a request for a copy-edit at WP:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests, and I've come across something I've got to ask you about. At the very beginning of the article, it says that the name of the bird came from the French word passager, which means "passing by". Is that correct? When I use the Google translate feature, it says it means "passenger". What is the correct etymology for "passenger" in the bird's name? Corinne (talk) 02:48, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you too Corinne. Your question is a good one and a difficult to answer. Both translations in French are correct. "Passing by" is applicable since, originally, the bird's passed by during their migration period. And passenger, as in 'traveler', is also applicable and more closely related to the the French Tourte voyageuse. I would base myself on what the sources write (Fuller 2014 and Harper 2012). Sorry I couldn't have been of more help. Coldcreation (talk) 07:31, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply, Coldcreation. While I was waiting for your reply, I asked a bird expert. See User talk:MeegsC#Passenger pigeon. Corinne (talk) 15:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

William Grant Still image[edit]

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Dadaglobe new article[edit]

Hi Coldcreation. Given your contributions to related articles (I also made some edits to the Man Ray page), I thought you might find this article draft also of interest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Dadaglobe I am waiting for review of the submission; I welcome any suggestions or edits you might have to improve the page in the meantime. This is only my second Wiki article and I'm still learning the ropes.Gaw54 (talk) 18:37, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Coldcreation for contributing to the Dadaglobe page. I took your lead and added a few more external links. I intend to add links to this page on other pages (like the page on Dada and Tzara) but am anxiously awaiting a review and acceptance of my submission. Any suggestions as to how this might be facilitated? The Dadaglobe show in Zurich is opening this week and it would be nice to have the page live by that time. Gaw54 (talk) 18:35, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Gaw54, I would just go ahead and publish the article. No need to wait for a review. I understand the article is a work in progress, but so too are millions of other article at Wikipedia. The article looks good. I've never gone through the review process before publishing article (nor even for my first articles). If you need help publishing it I can help out, or even do it for you. Let me know... Coldcreation (talk) 23:16, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Coldcreation. I'm obviously missing something here, since I thought that submitting my article for publication necessitated a review. Yes, I would LOVE to have it published, recognizing that it will continue to develop. Your assistance in publishing it would be much appreciated. Gaw54 (talk) 23:22, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Dada Max image[edit]

Hi Coldcreation. I am trying to replace the Picabia image you uploaded to Dadaglobe page with the Dadamax image you uploaded for the Max Ernst page. While the Picabia work was not made explicitly for Dadaglobe (it was published earlier), Ernst's collaged self portrait commonly referred to as Dadamax was. I am having trouble figuring out how to link that image; your assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks.Gaw54 (talk) 20:28, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Is this the image you refer too Gaw54? Little Machine Constructed by Minimax Dadamax in Person. Coldcreation (talk) 23:19, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

No, it is Ernst's self-portrait you uploaded for his Wiki page (also known as The Punching Ball). (It appears that you and I have many common interests: Dada, Man Ray, Ernst, Picabia, etc.)

Yes indeed Gaw54. I added the Ernst image to the article. Would you like me to post the article? Coldcreation (talk) 23:35, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, please post the article. It looks great. Thanks!Gaw54 (talk) 23:42, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Will do so, give me a minute or two. By the way, nice work. Coldcreation (talk) 23:44, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
It's up and running Gaw54. Congratulations. Again, good work. Feel free to continue improving the article and creating new ones. Coldcreation (talk) 23:50, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
I removed Dada from the See also section since Dada is already mentioned and linked in the first sentence of the article. Coldcreation (talk) 23:51, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
That makes sense. Thanks for all your help. You even beat me to adding categories! For future reference, how do I submit an article for publication without uploading it through the review process? Awaiting acceptance took more time than I thought it would. Gaw54 (talk) 00:19, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
First, type in the title of the article in "search". You will see "Showing results for... [your title, e.g. Dadaphone, this will be a redlink]". And "You may create the page "[article title]", but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered". Click on the redlink, then copy-paste your draft. Finally, click "Save page" at the bottom. Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me if further assistance is required, or if you need a quick review. Coldcreation (talk) 07:26, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Au Lapin Agile[edit]

nice work asserting PD status of picasso work. good to keep on english, since i suspect it would not last long on commons with the copyright claim © 2016 Estate of Pablo Picasso / Artists Rights Society (ARS), at the met. see also https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Pablo_Picasso_paintings cheers. Duckduckstop (talk) 19:04, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes indeed. Those responsible at The Met may not be aware that the work was published before 1923, in Herbst-Ausstellung Berlin 1913, Deutsche Kunst und Dekoration, October 1913 - March 1914, p. 374. Coldcreation (talk) 06:24, 1 March 2016 (UTC)


About a revert without edit comment[edit]

Hello. About this revert, I ensure you that in French "Pardon" may also be used with this meaning. It's present in the page since a while, with nobody except you finding it out "wrong", so you should consider why. Cheers.--La femme de menage (talk) 14:02, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Good point, I've reverted my edit. Coldcreation (talk) 14:11, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Thank you. I added some sources in the talk pages before I saw your auto-revert, in case of need. --La femme de menage (talk) 14:37, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Acrobat and Young Harlequin[edit]

Hello! I saw you uploaded an image of Acrobat and Young Harlequin. I was wondering if you know about its provenance: it is the Barnes collection now, but is it the same piece featured in these articles:

Thanks! --MainlyTwelve (talk) 19:14, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Good question MainlyTwelve. The articles you link to refer to another work by Picasso of the same title sold at Christie's London in 1988 (where the acrobat and harlequin are sitting). See here. As far as the provenance of the Barnes painting, it's a shame that information is not listed at their website. There may be more information online somewhere, not sure. Just out of curiosity, why do you ask? Coldcreation (talk) 22:06, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
I was going to write an article about the Barnes painting, but there are very few, or no sources available online. Thank you for your help!--MainlyTwelve (talk) 02:40, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Demonstrating greater effects would require greater distances from the Earth and/or a larger gravitational source.[edit]

See the edit in Talk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation

Greater distances (than for example the distance to a GPS satellite) do create a very marginal time dilatation compared to the time dilatation from earth to a GPS satellite. The distance from the centre of mass is about 4 times. The gravitation on the GPS is about 1/17. The gravitational dilation by grafity is at the GPS hight is reduced to 1/17 of earth surface. Going to infinity and beyond the gravitational dilation (of earth) would go to zero. The gravitational effect from earth to GPS very little, infinity and beyond is 1/17th of that. If the dilation is 17 Units at the earth surface. It is about 1 Unit at the GPS level. At infinity is wil be 0 Units.

I would think this does not demonstrate a greater effect.

Crazy Software Productions (talk) 12:20, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

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Image galleries[edit]

Hi. I just wanted to call your attention to this. Bus stop (talk) 02:11, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Ship-name italicization reversion in Art Deco article[edit]

Coldcreation, I see that you reverted my recent edit in the Art Deco article, in which I italicized the name of the ship SS Normandie (other than which I made no changes). My edit conforms to both Wikipedia style guidelines and standard English orthographical practice. I cannot figure out why the name of the Normandie would not be italicized, in the context in which I made the change. Please explain your reasoning, regarding your reversion of my edit. (And I apologize, for the use of this odd font. I have not intentionally chosen it, and I don't know why my message appears in (what seems to me to be) Courier font. My four-tilde signoff has failed to add my name, I apologize for this, as well. I am Catsmoke.) Thanks. 02:03, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Done. Reverted my edit. Coldcreation (talk) 08:02, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, very much. I appreciate your willingness to listen, and to compromise. I wish you the best. Catsmoke (talk) 14:03, 6 July 2016 (UTC)