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Considered a Birchbark canoes article?[edit]

Hello Cornellier, thanks for your note. I was wondering the same thing about inline cites vs. links, and thinking that birchbark canoes deserved their own section, if not their own article. To my surprise, after a bit of research, it appears that you need print sources to write an authoritative article on birchbark canoes that goes beyond "how to build one." These two books would probably cover the basics for different types of birchbark canoe: Timothy J. Kent, Birchbark Canoes of the Fur Trade and Adney, Edwin Tappan. The Bark Canoes and Skin Boats of North America. ISBN: 9781602390713 Fuller list of print sources are here: and The current photo at of the Hudson's Bay Co. "express" canoe is an important illustration, if a usable version is available. You know more about canoes than me, have you considered an article? Djembayz (talk) 01:09, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


Please respond to the conversation about access at Wikipedia:BNA, Sadads (talk) 15:20, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Please respond to inquiries at both WP:BNA and WP:Keesings. I will remove you from the request lists if you do not respond. Thanks much, Sadads (talk) 12:31, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Changes to WP:QC[edit]

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Why did you remove my edit??![edit]

--Camilo Sánchez Talk to me 20:03, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Camilo! I take it you're referring to my removing derailleur from the see also section of bicycle chain? I get that it's a related topic, but as I said in the revision comment, derailleur is already mentioned in the body of the article. As stated in the Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout#See_also_section '... the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body ...' If we're going to add derailleur, then why not add coaster brakes, hub gears, fixed gears, cogset etc.? Sometimes less is more for reasons of reducing clutter, maintenance, mobile downloads etc.

Google Street View[edit]

Thank you for your bold efforts in cleaning up this article. It was an avalanche of convoluted trash, as well as a constant battleground. Now that you've nuked most of the page, hopefully the edit wars stop, and the necessary content can be improved. ProtossPylon 21:59, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

Cross-country skiing[edit]

Hi Cornellier, I was surprised to find the amount of work that you put into the subject article without discussing it first, since your contributions change the emphasis of the article. Admittedly, the article was not up to Wikipedia standards. My primary concern is that you recast cross-country skiing as primarily a racing sport, characterizing ski touring as the recreational off-shoot. Most mass sports are thought of as the general practice, which then have a competitive subset; running, bicycling, skating are some examples. In my lexicon, manyfold more people cross-country ski recreationally than race. What is your thinking here? Perhaps we should have this conversation at the Talk:Cross-country skiing page. Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 03:39, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks HopsonRoad. Talk:Cross-country skiing updated per your thoughtful suggestion. PS: nice work on the potholes!! --Cornellier (talk) 04:16, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
And thank you, Cornellier, for the courteous manner in which you brought the topic across to the Talk page—done in the best spirit of Wikipedia civility! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 19:31, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cornellier, you might want to look at the work I'm doing in the sand box at Talk:Cross-country skiing/sandbox and also my suggestion at Talk:Cross-country_skiing#Scope_of_this_article for your work to become a new article, Cross-country skiing competition. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 14:34, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cornellier, with your and User:Erik den yngre's assent, I would move the Talk:Cross-country skiing/sandbox into Cross-country skiing. Please let me know at the talk page. User:HopsonRoad 21:13, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Hi Cornellier, thank you for all your good ideas and providing the impetus to revise Cross-country skiing! BTW, you might not be aware that your recent talk-page contributions atTalk:Cross-country skiing have been unsigned. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 16:42, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cornellier, Our friend Erik (a native speaker of Norwegian) has tagged the article, claiming its scope is confusing. I believe that we already had the conversation regarding his perspective and that he had an opportunity to weigh in, but his POV was not agreed to. See what you think at Talk:Cross-country_skiing#Scope_and_perspective and consider removing the tags. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 21:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Skiing navbar[edit]

Perhaps the XC skiing (sport) should be included under Nordic in the navbar? It is primarily XC as a sport that relates to the concept of Nordic skiing. --Erik den yngre (talk) 16:31, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

The Putnam Phalanx[edit]

Hi Cornellier, I've had a go at addressing your concerns with the article, namely what is it? does it still exist? together with formatting citations, and adding an additional source. I've removed the tags from the article, but feel free to re-tag again if you still see problems with the article.--KTo288 (talk) 23:12, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi KTo288, good stuff. I've added a few comments to Talk:The_Putnam_Phalanx --Cornellier (talk) 13:55, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
I'll see what I can turn up, some of the older material may qualify for PD-old now.--KTo288 (talk) 07:19, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

Good Article reviews[edit]

Hi Cornellier, I suggest that, since we are hoping someone will take the time to review Cross-country skiing as a Good Article, it would be appropriate if we did the same for other candidate articles. If you are willing, you will find articles waiting for review at Wikipedia:Good article nominations. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 17:22, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

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Thanks for comments about the Markeaton Brook article. Please accept this Bakewell Tart as a tasty treat to make your day better...Jokulhlaup (talk) 18:02, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Billy Demong[edit]

Billy Demong also won the world Champs (Liberec 2009) Holmenkollen (was hosted in Vikersund due to rebuilding of Oslo venue 2009) and Olympics 2010 in Nordic Combined Skiing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdemong (talkcontribs) 03:32, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for the info, but which article in Wikipedia are you suggesting be updated? --Cornellier (talk) 13:51, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Timing belt (camshaft)[edit]


An article that you have been involved in editing, Timing belt (camshaft), has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 13:02, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Merger record[edit]

Happy New Year, Cornellier. I notice that the tag at the top of Talk:Cross-country skiing (sport) reads "Text from Ski marathon was copied or moved into Cross-country skiing (sport) with [permanent diff this edit]. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted so long as the latter page exists. The former page's talk page can be accessed at [[]]." It appears that the fields weren't rendered properly to link to the previous page's history. Perhaps you or an administrator could fix this. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 18:31, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year to you too, User:HopsonRoad. Think I fixed it; I hadn't filled in the variables properly in the first place. --Cornellier (talk) 03:49, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for trying, Cornellier. It appears that all links still direct to Cross-country skiing (sport) and none to a talk page of the previous article. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 04:04, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Check it now? --Cornellier (talk) 04:19, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes, thanks, Cornellier. That seems to do the trick! Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 14:00, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Great knowledge of the ski industry![edit]

Trophy.png Great knowledge of the ski industry!
Hello Cornellier,

I've noticed via wikipedia that you're quite knowledgeable on the subject of skiing. Would you be willing to write a wikipedia profile about Unfortunately when a Google search is performed for "" a wiki page is showing up and we are two very different companies. Would you help us set the record straight so more skiers and snowboarders can learn about our 40-plus-year tenure in the ski travel industry?

If you have some time to do this please send us a message!

Thanks so much for considering this.


Leah Mtns4days (talk) 17:03, 24 March 2015 (UTC)


Please do not remove references from article. What you said in your edit summary, "citations are not needed for xrefs to WP articles", is simply not true. We cannot rely on content or references in linked articles because those articles are always changing and the fact cited in other articles may be removed or not properly cited in the future, even if it is now. Skyerise (talk) 14:28, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

What I said in my edit summary was not meant to be taken literally as a general rule for WP. What I meant is that this is a clear case WP:CITEOVERKILL. Inline citations are required for "direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons". Nobody is disputing that these athletes are medalists. This is WP:CITECLUTTER, and makes the article look untidy. These citations contribute nothing to the reliability of the article while reducing its readability. --Cornellier (talk) 17:03, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Ski flying[edit]

Greetings! This is a bit of a shot in the dark, but here goes: for the past month or so I have completed a major overhaul of the ski flying article, to the point where it now has way more material compared to its 'parent' article, ski jumping; and quite frankly, I just find the former to be more interesting due to the world record aspect. I don't suppose you have any interest in this area of skiing? Despite my efforts to make it well-referenced and such, I'm a bit timid about nominating it for GA status—never done anything like it on WP. I then noticed that cross-country skiing is currently a GA candidate, and I don't mean to hitch a ride on that, but maybe if you have the time or interest—or know somebody else who has—you or they could give a glance at the ski flying article and suggest what I could do next? Mac Dreamstate (talk) 21:36, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, an Englishman, a Finn and a Canadian go into a pub. The date is 11/10/12 ... hilarity ensues. No wait, this is serious. The ski flying article looks epic. First off, thanks for putting in the work. I'll take a look at it against the GA requirements and see if I can come up with some ideas! Any suggestions, I'll add to Talk:Ski_flying. --Cornellier (talk) 23:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Greatly appreciated, as well as the joke. ;-) Mac Dreamstate (talk) 01:02, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Good Article status[edit]

Hi Cornellier, this is to thank you for helping bring Cross country skiing to GA status, which it received a few minutes ago! Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 03:14, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Veldig bra (as we say in Scandiwegia)! I just poked at the article (and sometimes beat it) with a stick. You crafted it to a decent article .... --Cornellier (talk) 03:47, 30 June 2015 (UTC)


Hello :) I think you missed this part in the BMW 3 Series article "Class: Compact executive car (D)". It's a minor issue anyway, since that's not an exhaustive list. Thanks for leaving the others (consistent with similar listing in the other Segment pages). CtrlXctrlV (talk) 14:07, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Cut 'n' Paste. The reason to take it out was that it's not referenced. The "facts" in WP cannot be self-referential. WP should not state that the car is Class D without a reference. It being stated on another WP page is not a reference! Cornellier (talk) 03:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
Ok, noted with thanks (well done on deciphering my name haha) CtrlXctrlV (talk) 07:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

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Changes to Bagnor, Maine[edit]


I noticed that your change to the Bagnor, Maine article chopped off a sentence half-way. It would be good if you could clean that up!

Thanks, (talk to) Gaelan('s contributions) 04:30, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Done. --Cornellier (talk) 17:17, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Expansion of ski wax article[edit]

Hi Cornellier, I've substantially expanded the ski wax article. You may wish to give it a critical looking over. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 15:00, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Why did you remove the table of voltages at different degrees?[edit]

Seriously why did you do that? It was informative. I've had problems with my battery and referenced this numerous times. JustCopewithit (talk) 18:20, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

The "Example of Open Circuit Voltage (OCV) vs. temperature at various States of Charge (SoC) for a "low maintenance" (Pb-Sb/Pb-Ca) battery" on Automotive battery was removed because WP:NOTMANUAL per the banners on the page. --Cornellier (talk) 18:30, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes but if nothing else I found that table informative. I'm not speaking about the rest of the article,but that table seemed well fitting. If I wanted better advice I would go to a manual or fsm. JustCopewithit (talk) 19:37, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Edit summaries[edit]

Could you maybe do a better job with your edit summaries? Your recent edit to Power station was fine; "world's first" was not supported by the source, the National Trust source didn't contribute anything useful, and the reference to "Jumbo" was trivial. But your summary of "WP:CLEANUP" didn't help me understand any of that. Kendall-K1 (talk) 04:22, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback Kendall-K1. You're quite right. I will try to do a better job with my edit summaries. --Cornellier (talk) 14:10, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Nancy Wood[edit]

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Dynamic voltage restoration[edit]

I note you have in good faith reverted two related edits independently by both @Kvng: and Aoziwe on both Dynamic voltage restoration and Electric power distribution reorphaning the former article on both occasions. I have restored the deorphaning edits.

Your reference to WP:ALSO actually supports long see also lists if appropropriate, namely, Consider using {{Columns-list}} or {{Div col}} if the list is lengthy.

Deorphaning an article does not pretend to fix the article if it is otherwise flawed. Indeed and infact one of the reasons an orphaned article has not been brought up to standard is that not enough reader/editors find it precisely because it is an orphan. Linking an article into the rest of wikipedia from at least one other article will increase the number of visits it gets. Reorphaning the article will only keep it isolated and at a poor quality level.

If you do not agree, please take your reason/s to Talk:Dynamic voltage restoration#Deorphaning. Please do not revert again without discussion and concensus.

Regards. Aoziwe (talk) 10:48, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Before you wrote the above I had already started a discussion about this at User_talk:Kvng#De-orphaning. Let's not have conversations in multiple places. Please see my comments there. --Cornellier (talk) 12:47, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
We're discussing changes to Electric power distribution so I have copied everything to Talk:Electric_power_distribution#See_also. Please continue the discussion there. ~Kvng (talk) 13:57, 31 March 2016 (UTC)


You may wish to comment on the open threads at the Talk page, one of which you commented on some months ago. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:16, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh dear I thought this had been hashed out. OH NO IT HASN'T ! --Cornellier (talk) 00:12, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

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Groupe Desgagnés[edit]

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Oops, thanks for the notification Diannaa, fI was offline for a bit. This was accidental on my part, first I've seen this though. I shall try to be more careful. --Cornellier (talk) 19:46, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

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Salmon problem[edit]

Hi there, the final article will rely on citations from different locations in the same sources, hence the bibliography format. This is an acceptable way of formatting such references on WP (cf for instance Grill (family)#References, and the German version of the article I'm working on de:Lachsargument. So since there's method to the apparent madness, I'm going to go ahead and undo your deletion of the bibliography. I do intend to extend the article soon with the sources I now have sitting on my shelf (or my laptop, as it were), it's just that real life has gotten in the way.--Newbiepedian (talk · contribs · X! · logs) 21:02, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi Newb. Fair enough. But please get on with it. This sounds like a fringe theory at best and without decent support it's not going to last. --Cornellier (talk) 02:09, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
It seems to me you haven't actually read the article. It's been discredited since the 1970s, so it's not a fringe theory, it's a historical theory. It's notable because it provided the consensus view on the Indo-European urheimat for nearly a century.--Newbiepedian (talk · contribs · X! · logs) 23:55, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

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Citroën DS[edit]

This removal is problematic. I suggest you take one or two minutes to read the cited pages before you hamfistedly remove a) correct and b) cited material. Please.  Mr.choppers | ✎  06:35, 9 October 2016 (UTC)