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Welcome to Wikipedia, Coroboy! I am Marek69 and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page or by typing {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Marek.69 talk 19:13, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Where do I find the source of a table?[edit]

I want to edit the table/chart "Rankine temperature conversion formulae" in the article "Rankine scale" but I can't find the source of the table. --Coroboy (talk) 11:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

:If you click 'edit' at the top if Rankine scale, you'll get here, and the table is indeed in there.

It begins;

Wrong table removed

 Chzz  ►  11:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Chzz, wrong table. He wants the one that's transcluded, id est this one Template:Temperature --Imagine Wizard (talk contribs count) Iway amway Imagineway Izardway. 11:42, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Argh, no, sorry, wrong one!
I think you mean Template:Temperature, which is transcluded on that page?  Chzz  ►  11:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes, he does. How do you edit that one? --Imagine Wizard (talk contribs count) Iway amway Imagineway Izardway. 11:47, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
That is an absurdly complex template, so, I've decided to replace it with actual wiki code, see this edit, and WP:IAR.


Coroboy, you can now edit the page, and you'll see the wiki table at the top. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  13:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done

While you were doing that, I found my way through the template and fixed that. I had lots to learn about templates and nested templates! I ended up at [[:Template:Temperature/R/int] where I made the necessary change. --Coroboy (talk) 14:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Your Changes to "Template:Temperature/Ro/int" et. al.[edit]

Please be aware that for differences in temperature, for non-absolute scales like Celsius (and any scale for which 0 of that scale ≠ absolute zero) require the degree symbol to be after the unit, to clarify that a difference is intended, rather than a position. For instance:

20 °C + 4 C° = 24° C

"Four Celsius degrees above 20 degrees Celsius is 24 degrees Celsius"

84 °F - 3 F° = 81 °F

"3 Fahrenheit degrees below 84 degrees Fahrenheit is 81 degrees Fahrenheit."

Just as you cannot multiply positions by constants on relative scales ("half of 30°F is 15°F"), you can't add positions on relative scales. Let me know if you have evidence to the contrary before I revert your edits to the page (and sister pages) mentioned in this message's title. Ironmagma (talk) 00:45, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't profess to be an expert on this matter. I just observed that the usage "C°" was not supported by any article that I had read to do with temperatures. The article Celsius includes the statement "The degree Celsius (°C) can refer to a specific temperature on the Celsius scale as well as a unit to indicate a temperature interval, a difference between two temperatures or an uncertainty." In response to your message I have done some investigating and discovered some lengthy discussion on Talk:Celsius#Symbol for degrees Celsius. If you want to discuss the matter further, please take it up with the editors there.
If you decide that "C°" is correct for an interval, then you will have a lot of articles to correct! Coroboy (talk) 20:29, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Romanization of Russian[edit]

Sorry I missed the rest of it. There is no easy way to undo older edits when there are intervening edits in between—it has to be done manually. Fortunately, in this case the intervening edits seem to only have re-arranged a few spaces, so it shouldn't be a big deal. I reverted the article to the version of March 3. Thanks for catching this! Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); April 2, 2011; 00:42 (UTC)

April 2011[edit]

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Helvetica: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit was inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. Oneiros (talk) 07:58, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Writing Systems[edit]

I've noticed you editing a large number of articles concerning Wikipedia:WikiProject Writing systems, and would like to invite you to join the project by adding your name to the participants' list. WikiProject Writing Systems aims primarily to provide Wikipedia (en) with a consistent treatment for each writing system and general information relating to the study of writing systems. Many writing systems already have extensive pages, and the systematic information on those pages is not presented in a consistent way. A main purpose of this WikiProject is to present that information consistently, that many notable writing systems are documented, and to ensure that each of the major subject areas relevant to each is covered, at least briefly. Your work on maintaining letter pages is definitely within the scope and interest of WikiProject Writing Systems, and personally, I would welcome your input on developing a standard format for letter pages. Vanisaac (talk) 12:26, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

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for outstanding janitorial work on letter pages. Vanisaac (talk) 12:26, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Your feedback is requested[edit]


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Template for character computer codes[edit]

I was wondering if you wanted to work with me on setting up a standard tempate for tables of character computer codes that would allow us to systematize all that work you've been doing on the Cyrillic. If you would like to work on getting a standard format for those entries, I'd be happy to lend my assistance - I'm pretty good at the template syntax. VanIsaacWS 13:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I'd be happy to discuss what is needed. I have not done much work with templates. Where is the best place for the discussion to be put? —Coroboy (talk) 23:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

I've had this project on the back burner for a while, but I managed to get template:UTF-8 working correctly, so the template can work quite efficiently now. Take a look at User:Vanisaac/charmap and let me know what you think. I basically stole your table from Che (Cyrillic) and turned it into an all-purpose template. VanIsaacWScontribs 05:35, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

I like it. Don't worry about having stolen 'my' table! See User:Coroboy/sandbox#tests of template User:Vanisaac/charmap for further comments. —Coroboy (talk) 19:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Ahh, it's not sanitizing the inputs for spaces. That's a good thing to know. I had just copied the input for display and then formatted it for easy reading. Thanks for the heads. I had thought that lower case hex was neutral for HTML character reference, but I'll do some research, seeing as you think otherwise. VanIsaacWScontribs 20:36, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
I got it whitespace sanitized now. I still don't know how to remove leading 0s for the numeric character reference, so right now, it automatically pads for consistency, even if it's less correct. Turns out that upper case is generally preferred for numeric character reference, so I've switched it out. VanIsaacWScontribs 21:08, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Well, I managed to find a way to get the leading zeroes truncated out, so I think it's all set. Let me know what you think now. VanIsaacWScontribs 10:24, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Last comment: I had the label "Unicode name" because I intended to use only the official Unicode names of characters. You now have "character name".
I'm not doing a lot of Wikipedia editing at the moment, so it may be some time before I make a lot of use of this template, but it will make things easier. Thanks again for doing this. —Coroboy (talk) 13:42, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, the label "character name" was deliberate in order to account for non-Unicode characters mapped in another encodings or are available via a private use agreement. eg. I can imagine someone citing Tengwar letters, which have a private use agreement (CSUR), and, I believe, an older extended ASCII encoding, ala ISO 8859, but are not in Unicode yet. VanIsaacWScontribs 14:55, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
I also got it to properly format when an alternate encoding does not have a mapping for a particular character. Now a blank or undefined parameter will format correctly, and will actually do better than a dash or N/A, which will show a "0" in the decimal column. An undefined parameter will simply show a blank cell in both the decimal and hex columns. VanIsaacWScontribs 22:32, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png Thanks for the advice. I did not predict I would get stuck on that article like I did, but should have thought a ahead! Andrew Lancaster (talk) 07:23, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


Hi. I have explained my reason in here. Map is wrong. It should be corrected or deleted. --Verman1 (talk) 11:31, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Cyrillic Alphabet World Distribution[edit]

Just wanted you to know that I replied to your question on my talk page!
Cheers! Scooter20 (talk) 15:50, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Other English versions?[edit]

Sorry but there are no "other versions" of English. There's English then there's American. If I wanted to read an article written in American I'd go to

Don't "fix" my articles, they are not broken. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

WP:DAB, entries are sentence fragments[edit]

Hi Coroboy,

I notice at WP:DAB you clarified and referred a couple of things to MoS. You also included the statement

"Entries are sentence fragments; do not end them with periods or other punctuation."

While I have no particular problem with this, I have found in the past in tidying up DAB pages there is a mix of whether each entry does or does not end with a period (other punctuation e.g. a comma or semicolon seems much rarer). What I have tended to do is follow the prevailing style in the DAB, i.e. make all the entries end with a period or none of them (except the last, if appropriate). I don't mind being wrong here but is this definitely policy/style buried somewhere else in MoS (in which case should we have a ref to it) or did you just make it up? I don't mind, but in practice DABs do vary a lot in style e.g. how people introduce them, categorise them etc, so it is probably not a good thing to slip this in as "policy" without consensus if it is not already there.

I am no expert on this matter as I tend to use MoS and these pages etc as a reference guide, not as something I edit and pore over for its own ends. I am glad others do but am no expert (and MoS is such a constantly moving tar pit I doubt one article in a hundred actually meets it, since it is self-contradictory in many places.)

I'll put this at WT:DAB if you want, just wanted your own view first. Best wishes Si Trew (talk) 07:46, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Apart from adding a full stop, I only added the statement quoted above. The addition at WP:DABSTYLE is one of the points made at MOS:DABENTRY and it was the only point in the instructions you get when you begin to edit a DAB page that was not already included in WP:DABSTYLE. I copied the wording directly from the instructions given when you begin to edit a DAB page. —Coroboy (talk) 10:00, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Character set templates[edit]

(A year late, and a dollar short but...) Good work on the chset-xxx templates! I helped get the ball rolling, and I'm glad someone found the time to clean up the templates so that they are finally fully wikified. — Loadmaster (talk) 15:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notifications[edit]

Symbols in character encoding tables often link to disambiguation pages - some symbols simply are ambiguous. I have therefore opted out of receiving bot notifications about inserting links to disambiguation pages. —Coroboy (talk) 16:45, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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Tofa Language Page[edit]

First of all, thank you for developing the page. I don't speak Russian, but I can clearly see that there's a lot of research out there already published in Russian. Speaking of Russian sources, it appears that the link to the spreadsheet for the first reference on the Tofa language page is unsourced. Do you know where it is from? RlndGunslinger (talk) 22:27, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

The spreadsheet comes from the official site of the Russian Federal State Statistics Service. I have added that information to the reference. —Coroboy (talk) 00:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Awesome; thank you! :) RlndGunslinger (talk) 12:00, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Some follow up: I have found several sources quoting numbers of native speakers in the 40-50 range in 2002. While under normal conditions one might expect the speaker population to grow, this would be truly exceptional in a critically endangered language, especially without a revitalization program. I'm still digging into sources to find out whether any efforts exist, or what they might be, but in the meantime, do you have any more information about how the Russian source got its numbers? Frankly, I'm rather skeptical of that kind of growth, and I think that those numbers may either be inflated or conflated. RlndGunslinger (talk) 04:10, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
The Russian source is the official statistics from the Russian Federation Census of 2010. The question asked in the census has the sense of "What languages do you have a command of?".
One source of increased numbers of people reporting the use of minority languages is the growing sense of freedom to openly acknowledge the use of a language which in the past has been illegal to use in public or provoked strong negative reactions from Russian speakers. —Coroboy (talk) 08:44, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
I thought that the survey results might be self-reported as that does tend to lead to inflated numbers. Still, I didn't know that the language use was historically illegal, that would definitely change the context as well. Well, I'll probably leave a note to that effect when I do start editing the page and moving my Sandbox over. Thank you again for your help and patience walking me through the reference. RlndGunslinger (talk) 01:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Abkhazia infobox RfC[edit]

Farm-Fresh eye.png Due to previous participation in a discussion on the subject, you are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Abkhazia#RfC on Infobox. CMD (talk) 12:56, 21 June 2016 (UTC)