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ANI Reports about other users

Please note you are required to notify other users if you post about them on WP:ANI, I have done this for you on this occasion. Please user {{subst:ani}} to notify them on their talk page(s). Exxolon (talk) 16:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

My talk page

Just wanted to say thanks for reverting the edit by Sweetfornow when he blanked a section of my talk page. I don't know what his problem is other than he is upset about his edits getting reverted. He was explained why they were reverted, and was still upset. Again, thanks. MOOOOOPS (talk) 00:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Konkuk University

Hi, I saw you're editing the article, and if you're around the area, could you take a picture of the school, known for the spacious campus? Thanks.--Caspian blue 12:53, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, thanks, that's very good to know you can take good photographs with a SLR. You already have images of the school. I've searched some in Flickr, but could not found good ones to show the campus, so I look forward to seeing them in the future. Best regards.--Caspian blue 13:59, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

GAN notice

Hi Crossmr, you currently have at least one article up a WP:GAN in the Sports and recreation section. In an attempt to clear out the backlog there, User:Wizardman asked all sports WikiProjects to review at least two articles from that section. I'm now going around and asking anybody with an article nominated under Sports and recreation to review at least one article in that section to help us clear the backlog out so your articles can finally be reviewed faster! iMatthew talk at 15:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

You have been mentioned at

Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#User:Abductive. Ncmvocalist (talk) 05:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)



What I meant is the way User:Cunard did it made it look as though s/he was trying to reverse a discussion close or something. But it's resolved now, so no harm done. :) THE AMERICAN METROSEXUAL 03:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Editor's Help

Hello I am in the process of trying to get removed from the MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist and have been asked to get an editor from the film project to make such a request for the process to be approved. Could you look at our page page and the wikipedia page Jang Geun-suk and and wikipedia's Koo Hye Sun and see if it could not provide some help? I can also list many more pages if needed. Thanks -- --RamenLover (talk) 10:59, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Matt the Knife

Regarding this article Matt the Knife

You need to go back to the history and click on the each of the links. All the links go to the homepage, there weren't any info that reference the article. Any additional info without citations will be removed. Don't vandalize and write whatever you want.

And about this article: Terry Evanswood: Don't write whatever you want. Don't assume that you see a link and think that the article is fully cited. Go click on the links. If the link that does not reference the article, then adding additional info will be removed, regarding this policy: WP: LIBEL Sweetfornow (talk) 10:04, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I checked all the links. I click through every single one of them. I read the content. I only deleted the links that doesn't reference the info on the Wiki pages. Sweetfornow (talk) 11:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Re:Don't worry

Heh, thanks. I find the users who blank received messages to be incredibly confusing, it becomes difficult to talk when you have to make a new section every time. I like to see comments in sequence.

And while I'm here, can I borrow the syntax for your archive box? With 50+ sections on my talk page I think it's time I started archiving. :D A little insignificant talk to me! (please!) 14:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)


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Hello, Crossmr. You have new messages at Basket of Puppies's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Basket of Puppies 04:10, 2 October 2009 (UTC)


Please see my reply at my commons talk page.   ■ MMXXtalk  04:27, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

User Crossmr's suggestion

I will see what I can do. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 12:15, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I Am… Tour dispute

Instead of edit warring, please Could you please contribute to the discussion at Talk:I_Am…_Tour#Protection_over_attendees_content_dispute. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:05, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I saw your comments there but I just wanted to grab everybody so as not to play favorites. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:08, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Minor edits

All articles to talk pages are minor edits, all edits to articles are not. For example this edit is a minor edit, however, editing a article to say that the Nintendo Wii now costs $199 rather then $249 is not a minor edit. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 14:34, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Please accept this in good faith....

Just thought that I would let you know that your unsupportive, sniping and incorrect comment about my report here [2] here is not appreciated.

When I attempted a dif. on the only one of these articles that I had on my watch list, The Hunters in the Snow, it repeatedly failed with an HTTP 404 error. When I checked the user’s contributions they were rendering as small squares so I thought it best to report it to ANI. 2 admins. replied and dealt with it quickly & politely and that should have been an end to it, but you then come along with incorrect observations. Your comment was unnecessary and in my opinion not collegiate. I have read this [3] and suggest you do the same. Leaky Caldron 09:23, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

I am not making disruptive edits

I state I am not making disruptive edits. I also state that I will take WHAT EVER MEANS POSSIBLE to abolish talk page comments as non-minor edits. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 15:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

He's posted on the talk page of Help talk:Minor edit proposing that all talkpage comments should be made minor edits. I have the article on watch in case he attempts a bold edit to the text. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 19:47, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Done

Thanks. I responded by email. -- llywrch (talk) 16:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


I've blocked him for a week. If this is repeated after the block expires then please let me know and it'll be an indef block. I'm hoping that he will take the hint though and turn into a productive editor. Mjroots (talk) 05:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

RE: 777-9311

Thank you for your help and for adding those citations, I was having trouble finding any but I didn't realise the Per Nilsen book mentioned had that much info on the song. Markfury3000 (talk) 05:04, 8 November 2009 (UTC)


Yes I read it and you also said """We don't need Japanese flags inserted every time Japan is mentioned. They're not to be used for decoration and should only be used to help explain things or make certain information quickly available.""" This one is okay unlike the templates one because this one quickly indicates which country the club is from in the infobox which is quick summary from the article and is okay. Not decoration. Just standardizing like other pages. Look at

Also can you explain this then? Flags in there. Is not that same concept?

Anyway Thank You for your time and reading. Helpspoke (talk) 10:46, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Asian Fetish article

Thanks for your work on the Asian Fetish article. It has long disturbed me how this issue has been made into a tool to bash non-Asians. Although the article is becoming more balanced, it will take some time to further polish. I also have wanted to look directly into the idea that Asian men also can clearly have this "fetish" with Asian women, but it has only been anecdotal up to this point. If you have some sources then we should look into them. Other ideas would be the use of the "asian fetish/yellow fever" moniker as a tool to dehumanize non-Asians. IE: non-Asians are animals with no control and seek only to dominate, control and sexually exploit, as an animal would. The obvious irony here is the fact that on every corner in most of Asia are either a brothel, a girly bar, or a massage parlor patronized by 99.9% Asian men.

There are a number of continued issues, but again, thank you for your input as always. Computer1200 (talk) 14:21, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


Do you think there's enough support for a successful MfD? I've been mulling it over since last week, waiting to see how many other people would potentially be in support of votes to shut down at an MfD and it seems like there's a fair amount. Research into this issue should be conducted properly, by reviewing logs and CSD-tagged articles. NEWT, regardless of participants intentions, doesn't seem to have done much except disrupt Wikipedia, create a serious division between patrollers and fellow editors, and damage our trust for one another. Thoughts? <>Multi‑Xfer<> (talk) 07:08, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Minor Edits

I've read the section WP:MINOR. I'll use and comment as appropriate in the future. Thanks. A note: As to the issue of "Trivia", when I see "In Popular Culture" where it is obviously "Trivia", I tend to change it to "Trivia". I'm inclined to remove such sections, but am afraid that someone would take me to task for it. But rewording "Trivia" to synonyms (?) like "In Popular Culture" really doesn't change the nature of the content. Proxy User (talk) 01:59, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

do not revert

consider this your last warning Hoodatdat (talk) 04:32, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hoodatdat

Re your message: There is some dispute over who is the original account, Jojojohnson2 or Art Dominique. But it is obvious that it is somebody's sockpuppet because of the behavior or reverting back to another sockpuppet's revision. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


You can check his priviledges. He is an admin.--Die4Dixie (talk) 05:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)


No, my bot never was approved, but I stopped it forever. --MisterWiki talk (SIGN/REVIEW) 02:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Asian fetish

Asian fetish is define as a harmless preference by some sources but some valid sources also make it out to be an obsession. Please back your changes to the article via the discussion page. [4]

Also the mail order bride entry deletions you've made needs to be backed up. Please don't accuse me of edit warring when you are the one deleting valid content from the article. This article survived 5 failed deletion attempts so your deletion of entries are questionable. [5] Tkguy (talk) 17:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Asian fetish

Your behavior in editing the article and the talk page are unacceptable. I requested help on this article through the proper channels and you should wait for that and stop acting without consensus. Шизомби (talk) 06:45, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I would not agree that Crossmr has been working without consensus. As an editor of the article for a number of years, I have followed his edits closely and have agreed with most all edits and additions, which have been useful and appropriate toward the goal of bringing the article back from the extremist brink from which it once dangled. Having said that, your thoughts in reference to the article are also good. I think everyone working together in the spirit of Wikipedia should produce one of two things: a clear consensus that the article should be deleted, or a much better, more balanced article. Computer1200 (talk) 21:09, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Gameguard exploit

The reports haven't been updated in four years because the exploit has never been fixed in those four years: [6]. So does that mean I can put the text back, and you'll not remove it again? (I agree with you that the article is currently in a sorry state, though.) --DanielPharos (talk) 15:36, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Sin Sang-woo (ice hockey)

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A tag has been placed on Sin Sang-woo (ice hockey) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. ZooPro 13:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

KFC images

Quote from Wikipedia:IUP#Image_galleries: "a gallery consisting of an indiscriminate collection of images of the article subject should generally either be improved in accordance with the above paragraph or moved to Wikimedia Commons". I don't see anything in the policy saying they should be removed with no other action. Personally I couldn't care less about this article, but it seems heavy-handed to remove them without atttempting any remedial work, such as that suggested by the policy you quoted.

Best wishes Si Trew (talk) 16:44, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

You are right in a way, and I apologise because I know you were trying to make it better and you did everything right; I just dislike seeing content deleted.
However, I see that others have also added it back, so I cannot be alone. It is perhaps worth taking it to the article talk. I don't particularly like indiscriminate galleries either, BUT I do like to see a selection of images of a place (I do quite a few translations of Hungarian place stubs and they often have perhaps somewhere between two and six or very rarely a dozen images, and frankly I think people will look at them on the WP page but not click through to Commons to look at them — if they even know what Commons is; one hears "Wikipedia" all the time now but I haven't heard people saying "WikiCommons" or similar. I think it is our job as editors to bring some of that content to them. So really what we have here is, I think, a question of degree rather than standing on policy: we don't want to picture every KFC in the world (cynically I would say they are all the same anyway), but we do want to show KFC's worldwide reach.
As I say, I really don't care much about this article, it's only on my watchlist cos it gets vandalised a lot (to be absolutely clear: I am not putting your edits in that bracket), but if for example you were to do a similar thing on the geo articles I've translated, often on the request of other editors, well frankly I would be annoyed because I've taken the time to add them (and perhaps to transfer them to commons which is rather time-consuming) and it can seem very fly then for someone to remove them with a single click. That is not to say that removal is never justified, but I am sure that you can see that removing content can look like doing more harm than good. I'm not really interested in going down WP:IDL and all that (I know that is for PROD and not for sections but I think still applies, mutatis mutandis); it's simply a question of judgment really: I think and another editor thinks they are useful, and you think they are not, and somewhere in the middle we should probably settle.
Most of the pics are very boring though.
Very best wishes. Si Trew (talk) 08:42, 15 January 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for the action against the vandalism on my talk page. It is funny I'm accused of being a Chinese. If he just looks into my contribution in a sec, then he would not say as such. --Caspian blue 16:24, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Excuse Me

But I saw your post (entitled "Rascist Editor") on the talk page of Future Perfect at Sunrise. I am a new member of the Counter-Vandalism Unit, and I would like some info on this, so that I may participate in my first real case and learn how to be an effective counter-vandal. Regards! RM (Be my friend)

Rodney Watson AfD

"Especially since after having his comment struck he came back a week later and did it again."

I think you need to check the timeline again. Both of my comments on the Rodney Watson AfD were made before either one was struck--the striking did not come until roughly the same time as the block, while my last comment on the AfD was about twelve hours before the block. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!: 14-0) 14:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)


You're assuming I've ever even been disruptive in the first place. I haven't. The restriction supposedly in place came about due to a series of personal attacks which I acknowledged, have privately apologized for to many of those involved (I don't do public apologies; it's insincere), and have not engaged in since. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!: 16-0 and Super Bowl XLIV Champions) 02:25, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

I suppose what you're thinking of is the blocks and discussions concerning my AfD and RfA votes. But those blocks were overturned, almost immediately, every single time, because the discussions that came about resoundingly concluded, every single time, that I had done nothing wrong in those instances. The problem, then, isn't "disruption" (since there wasn't any), but an unfortunate and regrettable spate of personal attacks nearly two years ago, which has not since resumed. Kurt Weber (Go Colts!: 16-0 and Super Bowl XLIV Champions) 03:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Discussion of Kmweber's editing restriction

Since you commented in the sub-thread WP:ANI#Specific question growing out of User:Kmweber's recent edits to an AfD page and his subsequent block and unblock, i wish to draw your attention to WP:ANI#Proposed modification of restriction of Kmweber where I have proposed that his restriction be modified as discussed the the "specific question" sub thread. Your views would be welcome. DES (talk) 15:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Paper Cranes - All Japan championship

Answering your question for sources, I took the "list of champions" from the (Japanese) wikipedia page of the All Japan championship ja:全日本アイスホッケー選手権大会, and the only official web page with information (at least of the 2010 tournament; is the one of the Japanese federation of ice hockey) here are the complete results of this year's tournament ( (talk) 05:58, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Please edit more carefully

There are several problems with your recent edits to Chatroulette. In this edit, you claimed:

Initially the site was funded by a $10000 dollar investment from his parents. In March 2010 the site began showing advertisements for an online dating service.

Both claims are not supported by the cited source. In fact, your first claim is directly contradicted by Ternovskiy recalling I said to my parents: "Mom, Dad, the site is expanding. You should invest now" (a statement which even made it into the title), meaning that the site existed before they invested. And your second claim is highly dubious in the light of the fact that the interview was already published on March 5th and of the remark Once in a while we meet ..., which clearly indicates that the site had begun to show these advertising links much earlier.

Please do not use misleading edit summaries, as you did here - this was not a revert of an earlier edit, but introduced an entirely new wording:

The site's early growth was funded by a $10000 dollar investment from his parents. The site is now funded through advertisements to an online dating service.

Here you claim again that the site's entire early growth was funded by his parents, instead of just an early growth phase (the more precise wording that you removed). About statements such as "is now funded" (as opposed to the more precise "as of March 2010" that you removed), you might want to read WP:DATED. Thirdly, the source and my text intentionally used "advertising links" instead of the less precise "advertisements" (which could also mean big banner ads).

Please also consider the WP:BLP implications of such sloppy editing. Your wording insinuates that Ternovskiy's parents were actively participating in initiating the site and (by deleting the information that he already paid their investment back) that they are still involved in it. The site is already quite controversial and could, for example, easily be involved in child molestations claims or prosecutions very soon.

I'm not going into your unexplained criticism of "awkward grammar" and "bad style" (although I wonder if you really consider the use of "funded" twice in a row to be superior style). I'm certainly open to suggestions for improvement and I won't stop you from rewriting the text according to your personal stylistic preferences, if only the changes don't degrade its reliability and precision. An encyclopedia should first and foremost be factually accurate. A slick writing style is nice, but less important.

Regards, HaeB (talk) 03:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Asia League Ice Hockey season articles

As you may be aware, there is a discussion ongoing at WT:HOCKEY about creating a navbox for all top-level leagues of ice hockey for each season (ex. 2009-10). However since some of the lesser known leagues don't currently have season articles, we are trying to create them to make this possible. Since you seem to have an interest in the league, based on your getting the article to GA (good work by the way) I was wondering if you would be interested in creating a 2009–10 Asia League Ice Hockey season article (or something with a relevent title)? Let me know either at my talk page, or at the discussion on the WP:HOCKEY talk page. Kaiser matias (talk) 22:35, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

question about AF

Has Abductive ever edited on Asian Fetish before? He is being very aggressive about some claims that make no sense at all to me. This is what he said (on the history page) when he changed my reverts back to the original, when I was asking why it was "not allowed" to mention names of the professor OR their schools: "The general consensus is that if you ain't got no Wikipedia article, your name belongs in the refs. I could remove the ENTIRE THING for being a primary source." What "general consensus?" And since when was Wikipedia protocol based on "general consensus?" This seems crazy to me that we are not allowed to cite specific people in order to back up the credibility of our sources? And I really have no idea what he means when he says he will "remove the entire thing for being a primary source??" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Computer1200 (talkcontribs) 23:54, 16 April 2010 (UTC)


You may be unaware of it, but WP:Wikihounding is a blockable behavior. When you go behind another editor's edits and revert him or her, you are engaged in tenditious editing. Now, if it continues, I will have no choice but to go to WP:ANI, where the chances of admin action against you are high. Abductive (reasoning) 03:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Korean Language

Do not remove external links that are "relevant" to the Korean language. Thank you. Galbilover (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2010 (EST)

I do not appreciate the removal of a "relevant" link on Korean Language article. I am a professional Korean translator in real life and even contributed vocabulary for the article. However, since you and someone else both feel that it is advertising, I will back off. Good luck! Galbilover (talk) 11:23, 16 April 2010 (EST)


I believe you have made a mistake. I have not violated the three edit rule. It doesnt apply if im reverting unsourced edits or vandalism. im looking at the history on Tik Tok and i see no reason as for you giving me a warning. so please explain ..:CK:.. (talk2me) 19:33, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

I read what you said, and i looked at the log again. There is still no reason why you should have warned me. Im fully aware if the 3RR.

On March 3rd here are my reverts. My name is only listed three times on the history.
1) Undid edit by Fixer23, he said "feel free to revert this if you disagree. :)".
2) Undid revision 359768272 by It was unsourced.
3) 3 edits by which was technically one edit he just didnt preview it so they kept adding. i changed it because it wasnt technically vandalism, but was adding stuff like "Ke$ha" everytime her name came up, which is not correct.

But you are completely correct about the "Minor Edits" thing, i didnt release my computer had it "Auto checked" so i apologize for that, thank you for pointing that out, i wasnt aware. =) ..:CK:.. (talk2me) 01:14, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism you are correct, that i didnt label correctly, i apologize for that, next time ill write "incorrect content" or something along those lines. but you just said it, i only reverted 3 edits that day, so i wasnt in violation (response on both talk pages, not sure if you are watching my page or not =) ..:CK:.. (talk2me) 01:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello Crossmr

I'm Noropdoropi from Korean wikipedia. I noticed that recently you reviesed some word-list in Konglish article in English wikipedia. But this word-list what you added, is not Konglish word but just simply loanword from English.(외래어) Noropdoropi (talk) 12:13, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

  • ge-im (게임) - game
  • nek-ta-i (넥타이) - necktie
  • no-teu (노트) - note
  • nyu-seu (뉴스) - news
  • dal-leo (달러) - dollar
  • ra-di-o (라디오) - radio
  • reo-si-a (러시아) - Russia
  • me-nyu (메뉴) - menu
  • mi-teo (미터) - meter
  • ba-na-na (바나나) - banana
  • beo-seu (버스) - bus
  • bol-pen (볼펜) - ballpoint pen
  • bi-di-o (비디오) - video —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noropdoropi (talkcontribs) 12:13, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Tone Issue

This is about Hagweons. I don't see that there is a tone issue, but you are right that I ddin't give a source. Looking for support, I was surprised that I can't find any-thing on the net, since I know for for a fact that Filippinos teahcers are not rare in Korea. I guess, since they are either F-visa holders or illegally teaching, that's why it isn't mentioned. If AI chance across documentation, I'll re-insert my comment. Kdammers (talk) 02:50, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


Hello Crossmr. Since you were involved in the investigation of User:Keegscee, I'm listing you as an involved party in an ArbCom request seeking an official ArbCom ban for that user. Your input is desired. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 20:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)


The text gallery is wiki markup not a description of a section. Please be more careful.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:01, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


I archived Badaganai's page because people were still posting to his page asking for his input or posting comments in regards to edits without realizing he has been permanently banned. It was just so others could see the banner announcing the block and realize that he cannot edit or contribute to WP anymore. --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 16:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

In reference to the last message on my talk page, I have no idea what you are talking about. I gave up on the page after you did the second revert. Pleas take the time to read WP:Civil before posting again, but not on my talk page please as I don't really care about the issue enough to continue discussing it - I consider it done and conceded your point by not touching his page after the second post. I deleted your posts because of that and no other reason. --Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 07:54, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
I only did the second revert after you blanked my message on your talk page. I attempted to discuss it rather than just revert. I only reverted after you refused to discuss it further. Here is where you blanked my message on your talk page: [7], and here [8] is where I reverted you because of your refusal to discuss the issue. Notice the time stamps, I did that 9 hours after you reverted. Your revert was near simultaneous with your initial comment [9], [10].--Crossmr (talk) 12:34, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
I hope neither of you mind, but I observed your disagreement and it made me wonder if there was any precedent on this matter, so I posted something at Wikipedia talk:Talk page guidelines#Archiving talk pages of indef-blocked user about it. Just wanted to let you know. Propaniac (talk) 17:32, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer granted

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Hello. Your account has been granted the "reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on certain flagged pages. Pending changes, also known as flagged protection, will be commencing a two-month trial at approximately 23:00, 2010 June 15 (UTC).

Reviewers can review edits made by users who are not autoconfirmed to articles placed under flagged protection. Flagged protection is applied to only a small number of articles, similarly to how semi-protection is applied but in a more controlled way for the trial.

When reviewing, edits should be accepted if they are not obvious vandalism or BLP violations, and not clearly problematic in light of the reason given for protection (see Wikipedia:Reviewing process). More detailed documentation and guidelines can be found here.

If you do not want this userright, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:37, 15 June 2010 (UTC)


Hi Crossmr. From what I can see, Silent Way = The Silent Way. Words in Color follows a similar format to the latter, but is contextually different. Hope that helps. Regards, FASTILY (TALK) 03:20, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Your note to Matthew hk

Thanks for your input at ANI and on the user's talk page: I appreciate your diplomacy. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 16:19, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


It looks like someone attempted to tag the userpage as a puppeteer back in June and they were reverted and told not to do that for some reason [11]. I don't see why some accounts clearly socking are tagged as puppetmasters and why others are given special treatment. For whatever reason this guy has friends protecting him. Kindzmarauli (talk) 08:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

ANI closure

Thanks for your message. I'm not sure what, if anything, you're asking me to do. I'm not going to undo my closure of the discussion and unarchive it, for instance. If you want to start a fresh discussion at ANI, I can't stop you, but I don't actually see the point. The last discussion didn't lead to any body of opinion for taking OU to task or regarding him as "disruptive", particularly after what he said during the discussion (I know you probably weren't impressed by that, but so be it). Personally, I think the thing to do is to see whether there are any comparable incidents or episodes in the future; then you or someone else can make the point that this isn't the first time that the matters have been raised on ANI. But you do as you see fit. Regards, BencherliteTalk 15:13, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Gallifrey Base

Hi. I note that you reverted an addition to Russell T Davies (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) with the summary "no evidence from the site that this self published source is by a published adn recognized expert in the field". Gallifrey Base—despite it being hosted on Blogspot—is regarded as one of the authoritative sources of Doctor Who news and fan reaction (evidenced by the fact that the producers of the show acknowledge it and sometimes interact with GB members, and the fact it has its own article). If you'd like evidence of the reliability from Wikipedia, see RSN Archive 40. Thanks! Sceptre (talk) 02:08, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I think you're missing the point, here: the news pages of both Outpost Gallifrey and Gallifrey Base are accepted as reliable sources on Wikipedia—they're used on Wikipedia on a lot of Doctor Who articles, and the use of the news pages has been upheld at FAC on more than one occassion, and as, as news pages, either list facts, or attribute opinions, so we don't have to attribute them as we'd do opinions. Sceptre (talk) 13:15, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
FAC for "Partners in Crime (Doctor Who)". Ealdgyth (talk · contribs), who is primarily the citation checker at FAC, asked directly about the website (and as she said, she had the feeling she'd asked the same question before). Sceptre (talk) 15:24, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
It's not just anyone who agreed on it; as I said, one of Ealdgyth's unofficial roles at FAC is to check the citations. And given the amount of FACs that have passed using OG/GB, before and after her asking about the source (and being given an answer that satisfied her), I'd argue that their reliability is implicit as a FAC cannot pass with citations to unreliable sources.
Besides, OG and its successors have an extensive team to check for accuracy (I think they have a couple dozen people working on the news page), has been used as a source outside Wikipedia ([12]), been recommended by the BBC themselves, and the information is often readily available elsewhere.
Personally, I don't use OG as a source except to cite viewing figures (as BARB format their site horribly) and information I can't cite (for example, a story aggregating something that was first reported in the BBC's in-house newspaper. However, the fact remains that Gallifrey Base's news page is accepted as a reliable sources. Sceptre (talk) 16:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


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Dear Crossmr, I just wanted to drop you a kind note and let you know that you forgot to inform an involved editor in the thread that you opened on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Don't worry! It's been taken care of. Just wanted to gently remind you to make sure to do so when and if you open a new ANI thread in the future. Thanks! Basket of Puppies 11:52, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

The user was notified, they blanked the notice almost immediately.--Crossmr (talk) 12:06, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
They are quick with the mouse. Basket of Puppies 13:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Citation Needed

short note: After only a year :) I wrote an answer to your remark on my talk page, regarding "citation needed". -- Tomdo08 (talk) 12:48, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Your e-mail

Hello, in reply to your e-mail, this may warrant Checkuser attention, but I do not have that tool. You'll need to contact a checkuser or WP:SPI.  Sandstein  20:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK nom of Visa policy of South Korea

Hi - I just wanted to let you know that I have suggested a grammatical modification to your nomination. Shiva (Visnu) 01:11, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Visa policy of South Korea

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Just want your opinions here.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

You are aware that Odokee does not do any romanization at all and would be fine if such text was gone entirely. And that I work primarily in a topic area that deals with Japanese text and preventing me from editing as such would be detrimental to the project.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:26, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Even though you share his opinion on the matter in this page, this kind of editing should not be allowable. He continues to use misleading edit summaries and uses any opportunity to edit the page to be one to remove what he thinks is unnecessary. He did this twice before, and that was one of the reasons I brought him to ANI the first time. The thread on ANI went stagnant and archived and Odokee continues to be obstinate on this matter. I really do not want to be banned from editing concerning romaji because I work with Japanese on a daily basis on this project. Odokee doesn't. ArbCom doesn't want any part of this but I am getting tired of Odokee using bad editing tactics to hide his ways. And I can soon expect this entire section to disappear by the next time he edits.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

And I was right (also another revert). Let's see how he responds to this, if at all.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 05:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)