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GA review of Saturnalia[edit]

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Nice attack, reactions from Islamic and Christian communities[edit]

Please, check Talk:2016 Nice attack#Reactions on the attack from Islamic and Christian community Nice. --Corriebertus (talk) 16:13, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Trump[edit]

Hi CrumpledFire, I notice that you reverted my edit at the Donald Trump article. The reason I put in that stuff is because the RFC at the talk page is obviously headed toward putting into the lead that Trump has said many "false" things, and I didn't want that to go into the lead without any attribution or context or explanation. I don't think "false" should go into the lead at all, but it will be going in anyway, and I wanted to at least reduce the damage to the lead. I hope this explanation helps, and maybe you will reconsider your revert. Sincerely, Anythingyouwant (talk) 19:26, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

@Anythingyouwant:, I also am in agreement that "false" should not go into the lede, but the RFC hasn't ended yet (thanks to the fact that the premature close was rightly reverted), and I've added my own oppose comments just now. If it does end up with that wording, at that point we can and should discuss adding qualification in the vein of what you've suggested, but for now I think it's undue weight without the "false" yet being there, and we should wait to see what that outcome is. — Crumpled Fire contribs 20:02, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Date format[edit]

Thanks for arguing cogently for the date format change. Another reason the truncated format is bad is that you can not find it in a text search. If I am searching for an event that occurred in "2009" I will not find it, if it is formatted as "2000-09", and as you pointed out in Europe that is "September 2000". --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:00, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): Yep, I was growing quite tired of seeing that format everywhere, since every time I did it took me off guard because it looked so unprofessional and ambiguous. I'm glad the community as a whole was able to come to a satisfying resolution. Thanks for the recognition, cheers — Crumpled Fire contribs 23:49, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
It is hard for people to give up their paper derived conventions. Some early biographical summaries like New York state's black book from the early 1900s are so condensed, I still can't figure out some of the shorthand that they used to save space, double the confusion when you find one in another language. We have to have Wikipedia understandable far into the future. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 00:05, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
I echo Richard; it's definitely better to have full years. Two digits also can be vague in terms of century. Snuggums (talk / edits) 04:27, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

BC or BCE on Geneses Creation Narrative[edit]

I'm pretty sure the era would have been BCE - I was the one who did the big rewrite, and I always use BCE out of respect to our Jewish readers. I'm not sure when the rewrite was, but after 2010. If you have the energy and interest, could you look back through the archives and see what the history is? PiCo (talk) 11:27, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

@PiCo: Even in doing a massive rewrite, you can't change the era without first bringing it to the talk page and attaining consensus, per WP:ERA. There's nothing in that guideline that permits changing the era style on the sole basis of making a large addition to an article. Just like you can't change American English to British English just because you do a revamp of the article color. — Crumpled Fire contribs 11:31, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
The rewrite was years ago. It's been BCE ever since. I imagine the user you mentioned (Isambard Kingdom?) was simply restoring the usage.PiCo (talk) 11:42, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
The latest talk page consensus was for BC in 2010, there's been no discussion of it since. So, any change from that point was not in accordance with the WP:ERA guideline. Plus, I'm going through random diffs in 2014/2013/2012 and BC still remained in place. If you wish to have the era changed, the policy dictates that you attain talk page consensus first. And so far, if Isambard Kingdom joins the discussion, you're winning 2 to 1. — Crumpled Fire contribs 11:52, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
2/1 is a pretty thin margin :) PiCo (talk) 12:03, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

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