User talk:Curly Turkey

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16 January 2018


Here's a first: my years of writing and reviewing FAs disqualifies me from making MoS fixes to articles owned by the "little people". Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:24, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Did you know...[edit]

...that aikido, kendo, and to a lesser extent judo and karate all originated in Asia but are now practiced primarily by westerners? That's the impression I get from the (distribution of) photographs in our articles on them, anyway.

Seriously, it's really weird that the infobox of the aikido article lists famous practitioners who are all but two Japanese, and Japan has won the kendo world championships something like ten times as often as every other country combined, but our articles make it look like they have since the nineteenth century been primarily non-Japanese phenomena. The judo and karate articles are a little less problematic (primarily because few of the faces are visible), but the photos there come across as vanity picks taken by the parents of the subjects. (Yes, I know the faces are all concealed in the kendo article, but the European names of the subjects, who appear to be non-famous private individuals, are all visible.)

Hijiri 88 (やや) 07:54, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

It's unsurprising. Most of those editing these articles—and taking and uploading images—would be Westerners, wouldn't they? Compounded by the fact that ja.wp perhaps is less active than it could be—from what I understand, de.wp is more active with a smaller population of speakers, for instance. That's not the type of "bias" that deserves finger-pointing, but still requires correction. I'm surprised you even mentioned karate, though—the only photo of non-Japanese in that one is from the Philippines.
I don't know how much of a photographer you are (I'm pretty shitty), but this could be an opportunity to not only correct the bias, but add some appropriate photos to the articles—say, a gallery of the various techniques. Or enlist a helpful friend willing to donate their work. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:36, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

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If I may take the liberty of some unsolicited advice...[edit]

As a completely uninvolved editor, can I make the suggestion that whatever your viewpoint, and however aggravated you might be, knock it off at EEng's Place. Rightly or wrongly you seem to be committed to a headlong charge at the line... Slow down, back off and cool down before you happen to cross it. Have an otherwise lovely night, --Jack Frost (talk) 09:58, 8 January 2018 (UTC)