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Happy New Year Cwmhiraeth![edit]

Thanks Jakob, and a happy new year to you too. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:17, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Cwmhiraeth![edit]

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Thanks, Liz. I like the firework display. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:52, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Perennial ryegrass staggers[edit]

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DYK for Listronotus bonariensis[edit]

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DYK for Cockroach[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Eurasian bittern[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Louse[edit]

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DYK for Wildlife of Laos[edit]

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DYK nomination of Leuresthes tenuis[edit]

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Invitation to a virtual editathon on Women in Music[edit]

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Hmmm... I don't really like writing biographical articles, I much prefer organisms! Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:16, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/2014–15 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team[edit]

Cwmhiraeth, I wasn't sure whether you'd seen that TonytheTiger finally submitted a new hook today. Did you want to come back and continue your review? Please let me know if not. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:42, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Jordan[edit]

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The Signpost: 06 January 2016[edit]

WikiCup 2016: Game On![edit]

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Getting stuck?[edit]

Hi, it feels to me as if we're pretty close to stalled on the expansion, something that I've not experienced before. I think personally it's perfectly doable, and that most of what we've added is a great improvement. But something seems not right. Perhaps things will start to move when people's textbooks arrive, or something? We can press on, stop at once, tidy up and then stop, I don't know. Seems to me that FAC is a long way off; GA ought not to be too difficult. Am I missing something, or trying too hard, or what? Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:53, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I think it is a rather unsatisfactory article to work on and my enthusiasm is limited. Most sources do not distinguish teleost fish from bony fish, which makes it hard. However I have found some individual fish species of great interest to work on. As you say, GA would not be too difficult. You suggested Antlion before if I remember correctly? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:04, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, it sounds a nice simple article without too much in the way of cladograms. Shall we try to cut down the article, close it out to GA standard, and pass swiftly on to antlion? Chiswick Chap (talk) 20:32, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Little Jerry is the one who is keen on Teleostei, and I don't like to let him down if he has set his heart on FAC. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
So how do we get there? Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
I would happily add to the diversity section. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:35, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
OK, do that, but in the light of the criticism, I have come to feel that the section must do the equivalent of painting the lead image - teleosts come in all shapes and sizes, can cope with Arctic ice and desert heat, salt springs and mountain lakes. The text needs to stroll about the group (as the Distribution section does), not loiter on individual species, or jump from one species to another without visible connection. So I fancy the Diversity section could say "The teleosts range in size from the XXX to the YYY, and vary widely in shape from long and thin to broad and flat; extreme variations of shape are seen in the leafy sea dragon and the seahorse..." In other words it's a tour of the group, surely a fascinating task.
Alternatively, the diversity could be related to the different clades or "..iformes", but these relationships seem so fluid. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:29, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Most of the -iformes orders are stable (and are clades) but there are very many of them. The Perciformes constitute 40% of ALL fish so they definitely need a mention; I guess you can choose to talk about some of the heavy commercial tonnage of teleosts - Cod/Gadiformes, Salmoniformes, Tuna, Carp (very big in China). Anything that gives the feeling of a tour round a big, complex department store, yet all of a piece. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:49, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
OK, I will work along these lines. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:55, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
We need also to work out what to do about the physiology sections. Maybe they don't indeed need much change? Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:40, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
LJ likely has a view on this. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:55, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for still sticking to it. I'm in the process of expanding a reproduction section and Reproductive Biology of Teleost Fishes is a valuable source. If anybody is having trouble finding something to do, they could help me with this section. I wrote about a subsection sex determination. I was also thinking fertlization (internal vs external)/spawning strategies (like Semelparity and iteroparity), mating strategies, spawning sites/parental care and finally a development subsection. I recommend buying the reproduction book is you can (Ebook and kindle are less expensive). There is also this book which has sections on mating, parental care and shoaling. As for respiration, I can imagine teleost respiration wuould be different from other fish. LittleJerry (talk) 14:32, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Respiration[edit]

Well, sharks require to swim to pass water over their gills; some other fish breathe air... more in Swimbladder section. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:44, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Well, sharks aren't teleosts, but the mudskippers and Pacific leaping blenny are, and several land-going, air-breathing fish are mentioned on this page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:28, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes indeed. If you want to go further into that, the ref in the Swimbladder section talks about the complex phylogeny. Basically it seems that swimbladders evolved at least twice; any airbreathing teleosts evolved air-breathing secondarily, having already got gills capable of exchanging gas in still water, unlike the non-teleost sharks and other chondrichthyans. Guess you've volunteered for the Respiration section! Only kidding, happy to help, but probably not today. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:40, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Black-bellied tern[edit]

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Question[edit]

Hi Cwmhiraeth. I have got 3 DYK credits this year, but those articles I created/expanded in 2015. So can I add it to my submissions for WikiCup or they are not eligible? Thank you. --Human3015TALK  23:40, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

They are not eligible, unless you have done more work on the articles during 2016, which I don't believe you have. There is plenty of time in this round yet, and articles like Kolkata Marathon will work their way through the DYK system and be eligible for points, so don't worry. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:00, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

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Cwmhiraeth, Tony has asked a question in response to your last review comment. Since he didn't ping you, I thought you might not have seen it. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:53, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Wildlife of Lebanon[edit]

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DYK for Midday jird[edit]

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DYK for Libyan jird[edit]

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DYK for Northern three-toed jerboa[edit]

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A question[edit]

What do you think of the balance of the article? Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:33, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

I think it is unbalanced by the recent additions which I think are too detailed. I have moved the Reproduction paragraphs that were superseded to Neopterygii. I plan to start working on the lead when I think no-one else is working on the article (so that the diffs represent accurately how the lead has been changed without intrusions from other parts of the article). Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:47, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Odontosyllis enopla[edit]

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DYK for Odontosyllis phosphorea[edit]

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DYK for Wildlife of Syria[edit]

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DYK for Syrian steppe[edit]

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DYK for Salsola vermiculata[edit]

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The Signpost: 13 January 2016[edit]

GA[edit]

Hi, article Royal Stag has been passed for GA. But this article is still shown in nominations. What is the procedure to add top icon of GA to Royal Stag and remove it from GA nominations? Thank you. --Human3015 It will rain  01:17, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

@MPJ-DK: The reviewer had added the GA pass template to the article talk page but had failed to remove the nomination template. I have now done this and the problem should be resolved. A bot normally adds the icon to the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:06, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Retroculus lapidifer[edit]

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Geographical Indications in India Edit-a-thon[edit]

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DYK for Leuresthes tenuis[edit]

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DYK nomination of Sicyopterus lagocephalus[edit]

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DYK for Marlin sucker[edit]

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DYK for Black-bellied tern[edit]

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DYK for Sicyopterus lagocephalus[edit]

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DYK for Haplophryne mollis[edit]

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DYK for Synbranchus marmoratus[edit]

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DYK for Mylossoma duriventre[edit]

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DYK nomination of Krabi mouth-brooding betta[edit]

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Cicada[edit]

Do you think we'd be able to get cicada through FAC? I'd be willing to help and co-nominate. LittleJerry (talk) 01:23, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, that should be possible. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:59, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
Looks good. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:12, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
We will need to decide precisely what the article is about. At the moment Cicadoidea redirects here, but the article mostly relates to Cicadidae and the other small family Tettigarctidae has its own article. How best should this be resolved? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:16, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I think they should be merged or give Cicadoidea its own article. LittleJerry (talk) 05:57, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
@Chiswick Chap: What do you think? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:05, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
I think the Tettigarctidae are also Cicadas/Cicadoidea, so this is the parent article. I don't know if it's right to merge Tettigarctidae here. Logically it and Cicadidae (the group that I guess LittleJerry meant) would have similar treatment, but in practice Cicadidae and Cicadoidea are very nearly the same, so it's easy to see why they are merged here. For what it's worth, I'd leave Tettigarctidae as a separate article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:51, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA[edit]

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Greek Revival vs. Colonial Revival[edit]

Thanks for reviewing the hook. The "Greek Revival" thing comes from the church's own website, and I think whoever wrote it was not, well, certified to be writing about architectural history. By 1917 in the U.S., the original Greek Revival style was long dead (that sort of neoclassicism had, however, been making a comeback at that time as the "Classical Revival"). The Colonial Revival, on the other hand, had recently emerged and is still (as the article says) used for a lot of buildings, particularly government buildings). It would make a lot more sense in that context.

And, also, a lot more Colonial Revival buildings use brick. I think most people familiar with the two styles would identify the church as being Colonial Revival, not least for that.

All the same, I notice someone recently changed the article to reflect that. I think I need to put the much-better-informed NRHP nom in as the source for that, rather than (or in addition to) the church's website (which also doesn't seem to have been updated for a few years now). Daniel Case (talk) 16:08, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't really know anything about architectural styles. However, I see the hook has already been moved to Prep so from the point of view of DYK, the question is now academic. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:16, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Silwa Bahari string in Wildlife of Egypt[edit]

I think, there is sth weird in Silwa Bahari string in Wildlife of Egypt. Hanberke (talk) 12:18, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Oops, "show" (verb) is there. Sorry. Hanberke (talk) 12:20, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Could you explain what you mean? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:22, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
I missed the verb "show" in the sentence at first. Very interesting is this petroglyph fact. Congrats! Hanberke (talk) 12:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
I got a bit distracted from my main theme, the wildlife of Egypt. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Callulina shengena[edit]

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DYK for Callulina stanleyi[edit]

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DYK for Callulina laphami[edit]

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Re: Calvia quatuordecimguttata[edit]

Howdy,
As you probably know most invertebrate information isn't published. What I can do though is link you to several sites which give proof that this species shows "American" forms in eastern Asia, for instance this page on the species on a Japanese website: http://www.insects.jp/kon-tentousirojyuusihosi.htm

There is no website or source besides my own soon-to-be published work that specifically states the other forms occur as such, only visual images. One could perhaps translate that Japanese website and use that as a source/citation, though. Silversea Starsong (talk) 01:36, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

@Silversea Starsong: As the fact is not contentious, the Japanese site could probably be used to support the fact visually. Foreign language sources do not need to be translated before being used. Here is the sort of citation that could be used <ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.insects.jp/kon-tentousirojyuusihosi.htm |title=''Calvia quatuordecimguttata'' |work=シロジュウシホシテントウ |language=Japanese |accessdate=7 February 2016}}</ref> [1] Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:09, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

2016 GA Cup[edit]

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DYK for Borophryne apogon[edit]

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DYK for Linophryne indica[edit]

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  1. ^ "Calvia quatuordecimguttata". シロジュウシホシテントウ (in Japanese). Retrieved 7 February 2016.